TSO debuts @ #5

[Deb]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

I had just enough room.

[Triple S]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

I had just enough room.

I made room . Damn I wish I could see them this year! Word on the TSO forums is a Spring (non-Christmas) tour is sounding definite. Now that would work for me, if they do some Canada dates for that one.

[Behshad]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

[Rockindeano]

Last time I checked it isn't Jeff Scott Soto and TSO or anything comparable. He's a background singer on the album. With or without him, TSO would've debuted at #5. You guys are really grasping if you are counting this as a Soto victory. That's like congratulating Tim Gorman for playing keyboards on the Top 40 song, "Party's Over." Congrats anyway to TSO.

Wrong. He's lead on, I think, 5 of them.

Paul O'Neill quote:

"Night Castle" is TSO's second non-Christmas rock opera, following "Beethoven's Last Night" in 2000. At its heart is the story of a U.S. Army special forces officer (Lt. William Crozier, voiced by former Journey and Yngwie Malsteen singer Jeff Scott Soto) and his journey to fight the Khmer Rouge in the early '70s Killing Fields of Cambodia. "It's an anti-evil album," explains O'Neill, who co-produced the album with Robert Kinkel. "What happened in Cambodia still breaks my heart. The things humans can do against humans never ceases to blow my mind, but somehow in the end good always wins and gives us hope. I think that resonates, especially with what's going on now in the world."

Why do you try and argue with him Deb? You are just as dumb for being dragged into the douchepile as he himself looks like a complete ass with every cynical post he makes about JSS.

[Tito]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

[Tito]

Tiiiiiittoooo!!!

I watched you get sacked by the entire defensive line within seconds of...hey did you even get to touch the ball?!?!?
Stockpile....I am LMAO!!! Are you ok?!?!?

I didn't get sacked. I won this battle a long time ago.

[Tito]

Word on the TSO forums is a Spring (non-Christmas) tour is sounding definite.

If that's the case, somebody better tell Andrew to cancel MR Fest II. What will he do without Soto.

[Rick]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

It's absolutely impossible that he hasn't helped their sales. Even if only one person buys the TSO record because JSS is on it.

[Tito]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

It's absolutely impossible that he hasn't helped their sales. Even if only one person buys the TSO record because JSS is on it.

I'm talking about material numbers, not rounding errors.

[Behshad]

Word on the TSO forums is a Spring (non-Christmas) tour is sounding definite.

If that's the case, somebody better tell Andrew to cancel MR Fest II. What will he do without Soto.

Andrew already said that Jeff won't be available for MR FEST II

[portland]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

It's absolutely impossible that he hasn't helped their sales. Even if only one person buys the TSO record because JSS is on it.

I am now going to buy one and yes it is because JSS is singing!!!

[bluejeangirl76]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

It's absolutely impossible that he hasn't helped their sales. Even if only one person buys the TSO record because JSS is on it.

I am now going to buy one and yes it is because JSS is singing!!!

I might have got it anyway, because I have other TSOs, but now I will make sure I get this one and my reason will be to help Jeff help sales, so there's two. Jeff has officially help sales.

So there. Pppppbbblltttt!!

[JH'sTXfan]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

I can't figure it out either. Anyway, CONGRATULATIONS to Jeff. 5 FIVE 5 songs is very impressive!

[portland]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

I can't figure this out either........instructions please smart ass!!!

[bluejeangirl76]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

I can't figure this out either........instructions please smart ass!!!

Behshad posted the directions - scroll up, hometown.

[Rick]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

I can't figure this out either........instructions please smart ass!!!

It's not hard. Just put the url of the picture between the [img]and[/img] tags. See the picture below.

[portland]

:twisted:

thanks everybody

I'm trying to figure out how to do it!!! Be patient!!

Grandma was slow, but she was 90.

I can't figure this out either........instructions please smart ass!!!

Behshad posted the directions - scroll up, hometown.

Thanks....missed the ones that Behshad had posted and well.....success!!! finally

[tammy]

Congrats Jeff and TSO...be happy you deserve it!

[Glenn]

I for one am very happy that Jeff is in the TSO family....And his contributions on this new cd cement that.


Way to go!

[Lula]

jeff is good people. congratulations.

[Jana]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

[Behshad]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

What a surprise, Tito Jr agrees with daddy

[Jana]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

What a surprise, Tito Jr agrees with daddy

Not. Don't insult me. I RARELY agree with anything Tito says. It's just common sense this time.

[Ehwmatt]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

He definitely had something to do with it on account of the promotion/back story... HOWEVER:

If Augeri would have gotten the same promotion back for Arrival as the guy who worked at Gap who got the dream gig, it would have influenced sales similarly.

Hell, if Soto got the gig, the story coulda been the guy who's been singing since the 80s, including for movies and for Yngwie and whoever else he's been with, and there woulda still been a very sellable back story there.

That's all contingent on having a big Wal-Mart deal, of course...

Now, maybe the fact that Arnel was foreign added something, who knows, but I don't think Arnel's promotional power was unique at all...

[Jana]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

He definitely had something to do with it on account of the promotion/back story... HOWEVER:

If Augeri would have gotten the same promotion back for Arrival as the guy who worked at Gap who got the dream gig, it would have influenced sales similarly.

Hell, if Soto got the gig, the story coulda been the guy who's been singing since the 80s, including for movies and for Yngwie and whoever else he's been with, and there woulda still been a very sellable back story there.

That's all contingent on having a big Wal-Mart deal, of course...

Now, maybe the fact that Arnel was foreign added something, who knows, but I don't think Arnel's promotional power was unique at all...

The point was re Tito's point about Arnel having something to do with Rev. sales versus JSS not having anything to do with TSO big sales, not Arnel versus JSS for Revelation sales. I stand by JSS had nothing to do with the number five slot for TSO, and for one of the few times, Tito Bandito is right.

[Behshad]

Although Tito is being his usual self trying to stir up you JSS lovers , he does have a very valid point here:

JSS's presence on the album, however big or small, has nothing to do with the sales outside of a few people here. I'm still looking forward to hearing it. But TSO is an established juggernaut of a name at this time of year.

Thank you!!! Thats the exact same thing we were trying to tell him when we said Arnel's appearance on Revelation had NO impact on the sales

I disagree. Journey would've sold ok but not as well as it did without Arnel, specifically his story. The story gave them publicity they would not have had. Plus the new filipino fans he brought into the camp. That combination produced a #5, double platinum album.

Back on point, regardless if Soto sang background on one song or sang lead on the whole album, he had nothing to do with TSO debuting at #5. I didn't see any Soto press in the mass media about him being on this album one bit (honestly I didn't even know TSO was coming out with an album. Let alone any Soto news about it. Even on MR, all the Soto news I've heard is about WET) and any new fans he brought to the table for them. He had as much to do with this album as the drummer or the other people sang lead on the album (whoever they are). If you want, all 10 of you, to count this as a victory go right ahead. I'm not losing sleep. But your delusional if you think Soto played a big part in the success of this album...or ticket sales for that matter.

I have to agree 100 percent with Tito on the whole post. Though, once you buy the TSO album JSS's voice will be a reason to enjoy it, but had nothing to do with the sales. Arnel did influence sales of Revelation b/c of showcasing his voice on the Ellen appearance and reminding people of Journey and their new CD, the CBS interview, all the press, GQ on him being hired with Journey, People Magazine, etc.

What a surprise, Tito Jr agrees with daddy

Not. Don't insult me. I RARELY agree with anything Tito says. It's just common sense this time.

The success behind Revelation had more to do with exisiting members in the band prior to Pineda's arrival, plus the fact that they were a household name much longer before Arneljoined the band.
So while a 1000 more albums were sold cause of the new filipino fan base, the majority of the albums wouldve been sold even if Donald Duck wouldve sang the songs,,,, MOST of those walmart shoppers who picked up the CD, had NO clue who the singer is ,,, they seen a new Journey CD and picked it up. Fact

[Ehwmatt]

The point was re Tito's point about Arnel having something to do with Rev. sales versus JSS not having anything to do with TSO big sales, not Arnel versus JSS for Revelation sales. I stand by JSS had nothing to do with the number five slot for TSO, and for one of the few times, Tito Bandito is right.

I agree JSS had nothing to do with those sales. I'm just making fine the distinction that Arnel as a unique commodity had nothing to do with it, just the fact that Journey was all over TV with a Wal-Mart deal, stick Augeri, JSS, Perry, Hunsicker, whoever else in, they move the disc.

[JH'sTXfan]

Thanks for the help with the sig gif, Behshad and Rick. I will put in my 2 cents and say that I will be buying this CD because Jeff is singing on it. I went and saw their show last year solely because Jeff was in it. Chalk one more up to Jeff.

[Behshad]

The point was re Tito's point about Arnel having something to do with Rev. sales versus JSS not having anything to do with TSO big sales, not Arnel versus JSS for Revelation sales. I stand by JSS had nothing to do with the number five slot for TSO, and for one of the few times, Tito Bandito is right.

I agree JSS had nothing to do with those sales. I'm just making fine the distinction that Arnel as a unique commodity had nothing to do with it, just the fact that Journey was all over TV with a Wal-Mart deal, stick Augeri, JSS, Perry, Hunsicker, whoever else in, they move the disc.

Bingo !

Might I add, For every filipinio that Arnel brought to the fanbase, Soto wouldve brought a new european fan ,,,, Journey is NOT as big in Europe as some may think they are,,,,

[Jana]

The point was re Tito's point about Arnel having something to do with Rev. sales versus JSS not having anything to do with TSO big sales, not Arnel versus JSS for Revelation sales. I stand by JSS had nothing to do with the number five slot for TSO, and for one of the few times, Tito Bandito is right.

I agree JSS had nothing to do with those sales. I'm just making fine the distinction that Arnel as a unique commodity had nothing to do with it, just the fact that Journey was all over TV with a Wal-Mart deal, stick Augeri, JSS, Perry, Hunsicker, whoever else in, they move the disc.

Agree to a point with Wal-Mart. But they would never have gone Platinum with JSS or Hunsicker. IMO. Arnel's amazing tenor voice and powerful vocals brought that album even higher in sales. IMO.