Ehwmatt wrote:Behshad wrote:lights1961 wrote:Behshad wrote:treetopovskaya wrote:we ARE putting it on future generations with this bill.
I wish the generation before us had done it for us so we'd have an affordable Heath care system

THE GENERATIONS BEFORE US... IE OUR PARENTS and GRANDPARENTS .. faught a huge war to save our ass... and this is what most of them would roll in their grave over...
GOVT TAKE OVER of health care... our founding fathers did not want this kind of govt intrusion in ones individual freedom and choice... your choice is taken away after this bill gets put into place...
it is UN AMERICAN... its socialism and everyone knows it is... but hey... I cant wait for three years down the road an ten years down the road when everyone bitches about paying higher tiaxes... higher premiums... higher bills... and waiting in line to get any medical help... dont you love good intentions...
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quit talkin out of your ass..... no one is taking your choices away.,,,,, no one said you wont have access to private treatment where you pay big $ , like you have to do now,,,,,,The goverment funded and controlled health care has had success in many european countries..... I grew up in Sweden where you paid 33% tax, but health care was free...... sure you have some waiting times, but you do here too , even with full insurance and outrageous medical bills that have made many successful people go bankrupt over major surgery.....
There is a need of control over the insurance and healthcare scam , where they can charge $2000 for an xray, where 90% of it is pure profit.... Yes the machine costs $1M, but they have it paid off in less than a year and after that it becomes a real profit center.... Sad that the damn xray machine makes more money than the guy who reads your xray or even the physician ......Same xray would cost you a $20 copay in sweden, without even having to pay for any insurance......
Behshad if you trust the government to control anything for YOUR benefit, I don't know what to tell you. You can't sue them for care, you can't negotiate with them etc. If you think the insurance companies are draconian, wait until King Obama and his court of Snake eyes Botox Pelosi and Q-Tip Harry Reid preside over your health care claims. Just wait.
I hope we get this reform just to punish people, just like I hope Obama gets 8 years to punish people. I really truly do. Fuck it, I'm voting Democrat for the next 4 years

Go check with the elderly who are dealing with a goverment controlled Social Security check and you will be amazed how pleased they are with the fact that its run smoothly and they get their check right on time everytime,,,,,
this whole goverment bashing thing is going way overboard,,,,, If youre questioning the goverment, then we might as well just have someone like Saddam, where one power is above everything else, and we follow his rules only.,....
Goverment controlled healthcare, means PAPERWORK, yes,,,, but right now, even with insurance companies in charge, there is still paperwork involved....anytime I have been in the emergency room, I have HAD TO fill out all kinda forms, before anyone would even attend to me,,, one time with a bleeding finger,where it was getting all over the fuckin paperwork, but they still told me "try to fill it out as much as you can" !
Healthcare will never be FREE in this country,,, but its about time that we put an end to WAY overpriced procedures ,,,,,