Part 2 - Mel Gibson

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Postby Melissa » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:59 am

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Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!

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Nah! :lol: He has an ok first name though :lol: :mrgreen:
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Postby Behshad » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:01 am

Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.



Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.
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Postby Jana » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:08 am

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Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.



Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.


I don't know her. I can't speak to her. She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does. He had beat her up already once, breaking her teeth. One time he said if you hang up I will come over. so she the alternative of sitting there listening to him was better. Baiting him because she didn't argue with him? LOL I lived with an emotionally abusive man where he was yelling at me like that, and I would shut up. To argue made it worse, so you give up arguing with a crazy man. She was taping him after him hitting her. Of course, she had a reason for taping him, to prove his abuse. Normal men don't say the things he says. We've all said things in the heat of anger or being drunk. This goes way beyond that. Telling her she deserved to be hit and he would bury her in the rose garden. Sorry.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:13 am

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Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.



Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.


I don't know her. I can't speak to her. She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does. He had beat her up already once, breaking her teeth. One time he said if you hang up I will come over. so she the alternative of sitting there listening to him was better. Baiting him because she didn't argue with him? LOL I lived with an emotionally abusive man where he was yelling at me like that, and I would shut up. To argue made it worse, so you give up arguing with a crazy man. She was taping him after him hitting her. Of course, she had a reason for taping him, to prove his abuse. Normal men don't say the things he says. We've all said things in the heat of anger or being drunk. This goes way beyond that. Telling her she deserved to be hit and he would bury her in the rose garden. Sorry.


Im not excusing his behavior. But he was pushed to the limit. So the whole innocent angel victim shit doesnt fly with me. This story is way one-sided and fools like you, buy it without even listening to the other side. Had this been Neal and his 11th wife, you wouldve totally taken shortie's side ;)
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Postby Jana » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:15 am

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Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.



Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.


I don't know her. I can't speak to her. She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does. He had beat her up already once, breaking her teeth. One time he said if you hang up I will come over. so she the alternative of sitting there listening to him was better. Baiting him because she didn't argue with him? LOL I lived with an emotionally abusive man where he was yelling at me like that, and I would shut up. To argue made it worse, so you give up arguing with a crazy man. She was taping him after him hitting her. Of course, she had a reason for taping him, to prove his abuse. Normal men don't say the things he says. We've all said things in the heat of anger or being drunk. This goes way beyond that. Telling her she deserved to be hit and he would bury her in the rose garden. Sorry.


Im not excusing his behavior. But he was pushed to the limit. So the whole innocent angel victim shit doesnt fly with me. This story is way one-sided and fools like you, buy it without even listening to the other side. Had this been Neal and his 11th wife, you wouldve totally taken shortie's side ;)


Neal is a sweetie and wouldn't treat a woman like that. He would just cheat and move on the the next wife. LOL

Mel is a sick, sick man beyond his alcoholism. It makes me sad. He needs to be on medication or something. I hope he gets help, the right kind of help.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:21 am

lol ...I agree w/"B" and Lynn and Whoopi ...
Who knows
how much she tormented, coerced and manipulated him and then after pushing all of his buttons sat back
and watched her game plan in action ...something's funny up in there
Still love ya, Mel ...get some anger management/AA help!!

http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/13/whoo ... on-racist/

"I know Mel, and I know he's not a racist," Whoopi said on 'The View' on Monday, seeming both earnest and cautious to weigh in. "I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids. I don't like what he's done, make no mistake."

Non-Famous People With Multiple Famous Exes
http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/12/oksa ... el-gibson/
Mel Gibson's ex, Oksana Grigorieva, became one of the most famous women in Hollywood as the object of his most recent rant. But she had been on the fringes of fame for some time, having dated two-time James Bond actor Timothy Dalton (and having a son with him) before hooking up with Mel.

Oksana is a familiar type in Hollywood, exemplifying the women (and quite a few men) who use a series of famous partners as stepping-stones to their own notoriety. Because convention demands we give that type some kind of cat nickname, we're going to call her a "Lynx"--as in, her "links" with famous people made her famous herself.

Oksana has earned her place in the top 10 Hollywood Lynxes--and here are nine others to round out the list.


I want to hear Mel's side and if I don't, then she gets what she deserves, we should not have heard this!!! :wink:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:36 am

Michigan Girl wrote:lol ...I agree w/"B" and Lynn and Whoopi ...
Who knows
how much she tormented, coerced and manipulated him and then after pushing all of his buttons sat back
and watched her game plan in action ...something's funny up in there
Still love ya, Mel ...get some anger management/AA help!!

http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/13/whoo ... on-racist/

"I know Mel, and I know he's not a racist," Whoopi said on 'The View' on Monday, seeming both earnest and cautious to weigh in. "I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids. I don't like what he's done, make no mistake."

Non-Famous People With Multiple Famous Exes
http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/12/oksa ... el-gibson/
Mel Gibson's ex, Oksana Grigorieva, became one of the most famous women in Hollywood as the object of his most recent rant. But she had been on the fringes of fame for some time, having dated two-time James Bond actor Timothy Dalton (and having a son with him) before hooking up with Mel.

Oksana is a familiar type in Hollywood, exemplifying the women (and quite a few men) who use a series of famous partners as stepping-stones to their own notoriety. Because convention demands we give that type some kind of cat nickname, we're going to call her a "Lynx"--as in, her "links" with famous people made her famous herself.

Oksana has earned her place in the top 10 Hollywood Lynxes--and here are nine others to round out the list.


I want to hear Mel's side and if I don't, then she gets what she deserves, we should not have heard this!!! :wink:


Remember too, that she had an affair with Mel while still married and got pregnant. Second baby with a "famous" rich person. I just don't trust her intentions. Call me cold, but I don't. :lol: There are lots of women like her lurking around men like him. Can't trust em :lol:
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:51 am

Saint John wrote:I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context. :lol:
out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:56 am

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Saint John wrote:I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context. :lol:
out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chance
Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.
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Postby Don » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:08 am

The judge in the custody hearing should sanction her for allowing these tapes to go public. If it's the child's welfare that is at stake, turning this into a circus when it should be that the only person who's opinion should matter is the guy with the gavel, it smacks of self promotion. Of course she and her attorney have no idea how these audio conversations were leaked. They should audit her finances and see if she received any suspicious deposits into her bank account over the last month or two.
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Postby fredinator » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:24 am

So, what is the story then? I don't even know really what's going on with him... Her being beaten by him and losing some teeth--she went to the cops with that? Is that why they want to look into this? Like they have pics of her without teeth and black and blue? Or did she accuse him of that and then the cops got interested?

This reminds me of the Robert Blake thing.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:03 am

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Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.

So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.



Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.


If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!
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Postby Peartree12249 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:05 am

I'm dumbfounded that there are some woman on this forum are actually sticking up for Mel and making the victim the bad guy. That just what the abuser does, blame the victim. He blamed her for getting punched in the face with his newborn child in her arms! Are you people nuts!!!! Nothing... nothing she could have done justifies that kind of behavior ever!!!

Would it have made any difference is she talked as hatefully and out of control as he did? What purpose would that have served? Trust me, I've lived with active alcoholism for 30 years. They don't need anyone to push their buttons. They can go off at the drop of a hat for no damn reason at all.

As recently as May, She was ready to take a 20 million payoff and they would have joint custody. If all she was after was money she could have just signed the papers and walked away with the cash. I believe she is doing the right thing by protecting herself and the child from an abusive drunk. Do you honestly think in California where celebrities get away with murder, she would have stood a chance against Mel Gibson and his high priced lawyers. This is they only thing she could do.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:10 am

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Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!

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Nah! :lol: He has an ok first name though :lol: :mrgreen:


I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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Postby Don » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:15 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
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Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!

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Nah! :lol: He has an ok first name though :lol: :mrgreen:


I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:22 am

Jana wrote:She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does.


I disagree. Whatever the truth about Oksana's motives be, evil manipulative people deserve a lot in the way of karma or justice. Doesn't mean it's right or justified for anyone else to become the instrument of karma or justice, any more than it's right for a tiger to bite the hand off some kid who sticks his hand in it's cage. But, technically if the kid was purposefully trying to provoke the tiger, then he gets what's coming to him. Everyone loses.
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Don wrote:I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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Are you serious? What is that anyway?

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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:26 am

Andrew wrote:If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!


I thought in the Outback all guys slapped their Shielas around! That's not what they do there?

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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:26 am

Peartree12249 wrote:I'm dumbfounded that there are some woman on this forum are actually sticking up for Mel and making the victim the bad guy. That just what the abuser does, blame the victim. He blamed her for getting punched in the face with his newborn child in her arms! Are you people nuts!!!! Nothing... nothing she could have done justifies that kind of behavior ever!!!

Would it have made any difference is she talked as hatefully and out of control as he did? What purpose would that have served? Trust me, I've lived with active alcoholism for 30 years. They don't need anyone to push their buttons. They can go off at the drop of a hat for no damn reason at all.

As recently as May, She was ready to take a 20 million payoff and they would have joint custody. If all she was after was money she could have just signed the papers and walked away with the cash. I believe she is doing the right thing by protecting herself and the child from an abusive drunk. Do you honestly think in California where celebrities get away with murder, she would have stood a chance against Mel Gibson and his high priced lawyers. This is they only thing she could do.

Is he in jail? Cause Im pretty sure when someone is punched in the face, the abuser ends up in jail. Especially when holding a child. You are hearing ONE SIDE of a situation. A tape SHE made. To HER advantage. I am not nuts and I think to call him an "abuser" is not something he can be called without more proof than this, sorry. Sure, his words were abusive, but how do you know that she didn't NORMALLY use abusive words back to him in arguments with him? She had the advantage over him in this situation KNOWING she was taping him. You have NO IDEA what lead up to this kind of anger. I felt the same way for Alec Baldwin. I in no way excused what he said to his young daughter, that was a huge mistake he paid for and should have, but he had been provoked and provoked in a NASTY custody battle, and his daughter was being turned against him, which some women do, in estranged situations, and I just think there are TWO SIDES to every story. There ARE nasty horrible women out there. And her track record and history make me LEARY, that's all. When a woman has children with multiple older rich guys, it makes me wonder their intentions. We are getting one side from a person who WANTS to gain sympathy in the press and ruin him. People can be driven to do all sorts of things they wouldnt' normally do if the circumstances are right. Mel has a drinking problem, then yes he needs help. Amazing how such an abusive person has had other marriages and relationships and never ended up in jail or in the news before for abusing a woman :shock:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:27 am

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Jana wrote:She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does.


I disagree. Whatever the truth about Oksana's motives be, evil manipulative people deserve a lot in the way of karma or justice. Doesn't mean it's right or justified for anyone else to become the instrument of karma or justice, any more than it's right for a tiger to bite the hand off some kid who sticks his hand in it's cage. But, technically if the kid was purposefully trying to provoke the tiger, then he gets what's coming to him. Everyone loses.
Too many women use their children and honestly that disgusts me more than any of mels words could. I guess Im a horrible woman :lol:
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Postby Don » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:34 am

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Don wrote:I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.



Are you serious? What is that anyway?



It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.

And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:47 am

I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:50 am

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Andrew wrote:If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!


I thought in the Outback all guys slapped their Shielas around! That's not what they do there?



LOL. No, we have the jumbucks for that.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:52 am

7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.
Awww, Im so offended :roll:
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Postby Jana » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:53 am

7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.


Any man that hits a women in the face knocking out a tooth while she's holding their baby and tells her on another occasion she effin deserved it, I have ZERO respect for. He has serious issues.
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Postby BobbyinTN » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:09 pm

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Since 78 wrote:
Behshad wrote:Why doesnt anyone question this money hungry bitch's calm voice while provoking the guy!?
No , Im not defending Gibsons behavior, but this bitch is out for fortune and fame.


I think shes trying to get proof of abuse. She is definitely baiting him.
Yeah, but think about all the women you know. Do you know one who would not give it right back when being talked to that way? She was too calm because she had a purpose. To push his buttons into rage for her own benefit. They are promoting her music now on the rag shows :roll: so predictable! The words he chose were wrong, but I choose wrong words sometimes too. Should I be ruined publicly? I just think this was self serving on her part. If her soul intention was to protect the child, it never should have been public. I will never believe she didn't have a hand in that.


That's exactly what I'm saying, and to answer BobbyInTN, I'm definitely not excusing Mel for anything. He's apparently an out-of-control ape and he deserves what's coming to him. But so does she if she baited him -- it's called "karma". No excuses for Mel, but I still want to hear his side of the story to find out what he's so pissed off about. You don't threaten to burn down a house or plant someone in a rose garden for lying about having breast implants.

The tabloids love villain/victim stories so they always put someone in the good role vs. the bad role. It's almost never that simple, and neither are they sincere because they also love to flip the script and expose their victims as villains and visa versa when it suits them to sell more mags.












Rip, sorry if you thought I was accusing you of excusing his behavior. You're a better man than that.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:19 pm

Jana wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.


Any man that hits a women in the face knocking out a tooth while she's holding their baby and tells her on another occasion she effin deserved it, I have ZERO respect for. He has serious issues.
And that's fine. And if he indeed did do that to her, then he will get charged, and hopefully justice will be served. And hopefully he does get help, because it is WRONG. What irritates me is how MANY PEOPLE become media sheep. With ONE SIDE to a story. With her tapes and who knows if the tapes themselves were manipulated. That is up to the authorities to decide what happened. He is being tried and judged and convicted by the public and press with only half the evidence and it's ridiculous. Everyone loves a juicy hollywood story :roll: You work in the legal system. I would think innocent until proven guilty would mean something to you. Those tapes sound really weird to me and the way she talks is not natural. There is SOMETHING fishy about them and that is why I remain leary. What bothers me too is how quick the media wants to jump to her side and build her up, and show the world "her beautiful music and voice". I just have a lot of questions before I would ever make any judgements.

Yesterday's criminal is today's hero. Look at Michael Jackson. That man was CRUCIFIED while alive. They made his life a living hell. Now he's a HERO. Disney is BRINGING BACK Captain EO!! His music is played everywhere. The schools went nuts this year using his music in graduations and marching bands. Amazing! I honestly loath the media, and I think that is part of why I feel how I do :lol:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:21 pm

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Don wrote:I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.



Are you serious? What is that anyway?



It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.

And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.


Dang, are you serious? When do they show that? I know it's not strictly a kids channel but hopefully not mixed in with the kiddie toons.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:22 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
Don wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Don wrote:I didn't think about that. :) Do you ever use the "N" word?

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After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.



Are you serious? What is that anyway?



It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.

And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.


Dang, are you serious? When do they show that? I know it's not strictly a kids channel but hopefully not mixed in with the kiddie toons.


That's what's scary about cartoon network!! At a certain time of night, not even after midnight, the cartoons become more "adult" like. I found that one out a long time ago and I screened it very carefully. I really don't care for anything on that channel, even the kid cartoons though. Disney and Nickelodeon are much better.
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