Rip Rokken wrote:Melissa wrote:Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.
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You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!
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Rip Rokken wrote:Melissa wrote:Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.
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You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!
Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.
So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.
Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.
So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.
Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.
Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.
So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.
Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.
I don't know her. I can't speak to her. She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does. He had beat her up already once, breaking her teeth. One time he said if you hang up I will come over. so she the alternative of sitting there listening to him was better. Baiting him because she didn't argue with him? LOL I lived with an emotionally abusive man where he was yelling at me like that, and I would shut up. To argue made it worse, so you give up arguing with a crazy man. She was taping him after him hitting her. Of course, she had a reason for taping him, to prove his abuse. Normal men don't say the things he says. We've all said things in the heat of anger or being drunk. This goes way beyond that. Telling her she deserved to be hit and he would bury her in the rose garden. Sorry.
Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.
So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.
Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.
I don't know her. I can't speak to her. She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does. He had beat her up already once, breaking her teeth. One time he said if you hang up I will come over. so she the alternative of sitting there listening to him was better. Baiting him because she didn't argue with him? LOL I lived with an emotionally abusive man where he was yelling at me like that, and I would shut up. To argue made it worse, so you give up arguing with a crazy man. She was taping him after him hitting her. Of course, she had a reason for taping him, to prove his abuse. Normal men don't say the things he says. We've all said things in the heat of anger or being drunk. This goes way beyond that. Telling her she deserved to be hit and he would bury her in the rose garden. Sorry.
Im not excusing his behavior. But he was pushed to the limit. So the whole innocent angel victim shit doesnt fly with me. This story is way one-sided and fools like you, buy it without even listening to the other side. Had this been Neal and his 11th wife, you wouldve totally taken shortie's side
Michigan Girl wrote:lol ...I agree w/"B" and Lynn and Whoopi ...
Who knows
how much she tormented, coerced and manipulated him and then after pushing all of his buttons sat back
and watched her game plan in action ...something's funny up in there
Still love ya, Mel ...get some anger management/AA help!!
http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/13/whoo ... on-racist/
"I know Mel, and I know he's not a racist," Whoopi said on 'The View' on Monday, seeming both earnest and cautious to weigh in. "I have had a long friendship with Mel. You can say he's being a bonehead, but I can't sit and say that he's a racist having spent time with him in my house with my kids. I don't like what he's done, make no mistake."
Non-Famous People With Multiple Famous Exes
http://www.popeater.com/2010/07/12/oksa ... el-gibson/
Mel Gibson's ex, Oksana Grigorieva, became one of the most famous women in Hollywood as the object of his most recent rant. But she had been on the fringes of fame for some time, having dated two-time James Bond actor Timothy Dalton (and having a son with him) before hooking up with Mel.
Oksana is a familiar type in Hollywood, exemplifying the women (and quite a few men) who use a series of famous partners as stepping-stones to their own notoriety. Because convention demands we give that type some kind of cat nickname, we're going to call her a "Lynx"--as in, her "links" with famous people made her famous herself.
Oksana has earned her place in the top 10 Hollywood Lynxes--and here are nine others to round out the list.
I want to hear Mel's side and if I don't, then she gets what she deserves, we should not have heard this!!!
out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chanceSaint John wrote:I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.
Well, maybe she was a "whore" how do we know she doesn't deserve that title? Maybe she was sleeping with other guys and he found out. How do WE know why he called her a whore? In estranged situations, especially involving a child, things can get very volatile very easily. Buttons can be pushed on both sides and it may not be pretty. I don't excuse abuse, but sometimes I think people are just horrible combinations and they BOTH need to own up. And sorry, he's right. It IS his money. She didn't help him earn it. His wife of 29 years deserved his money maybe, not her.stevew2 wrote:out of context? "its my money you f!@#ing whore" Thats pretty straight forward there Dan.Im am getting a kick out it through.She should have bit his dick off when she had the chanceSaint John wrote:I'm gonna wait to hear Mel's side of the story before I cast judgment. Perhaps these tapes are taken out of context.
Behshad wrote:Jana wrote:My sister and I, when we were in our early twenties, dated law partners, who were from the same hometown. Her boyfriend had a vicious father who cheated and Tom hated him. But he was just like his father. While seemingly charming and handsome if you knew him casually, he was cruel to his girlfriends at times beyond comprehension, very sick behavior. My sister says Mel reminds her of Tom. And once she finally moved on he was even meaner. My boyfriend, much, much older than me, who had such an absolutely charming and giving side, had another side that was horrible. He never said the kinds of things Mel did, but he was so emotionally abusive and controlling, and I was so young that he had me believing there was something wrong with. Little perceived slights, like my leaving an empty coke can on the coffee table twice, or bad moods would bring on the cold white anger and he would lash into me belittling me on so many levels. I lived in fear if we had a few good weeks that his anger was coming. I remember once we were on vacation in St. Croix and at breakfast he said I didn't look the waitress in the eyes when responding and he tore into me verbally for an hour and said cruel things about me. But the difference between her boyfriend and mine was when I finally left after five years and outgrew someone like that, he did care about me and wanted me to do well. Both men were playboys who never sustained a happy relationship ever to this day.
So if you think someone has to bait someone filled with rage to act like that, so far from it.
Youre basing all your opinions on what the media is feeding you. Did you notice how calm she is and this is not an actual couple arguing but rather one , on purpose pushing another ones buttons to get him all riled up !???
Any woman in that situation wouldve fought back and told him off. She created all this , just like Lynn said, to promote her music and get some $ from Gibson.
Melissa wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Melissa wrote:Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.
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You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!
Nah!He has an ok first name though
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Rip Rokken wrote:Melissa wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Melissa wrote:Don wrote:Mel's just covering all of his bases here. An outburst at Benihana or PF Chang's should just about wrap it up.
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You know you think Mel Gibson's hot!!! If you didn't you'd be, well... Un-American!
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I didn't think about that.Do you ever use the "N" word?
Jana wrote:She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does.
Rip Rokken wrote:Don wrote:I didn't think about that.Do you ever use the "N" word?
After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.
Andrew wrote:If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!
Peartree12249 wrote:I'm dumbfounded that there are some woman on this forum are actually sticking up for Mel and making the victim the bad guy. That just what the abuser does, blame the victim. He blamed her for getting punched in the face with his newborn child in her arms! Are you people nuts!!!! Nothing... nothing she could have done justifies that kind of behavior ever!!!
Would it have made any difference is she talked as hatefully and out of control as he did? What purpose would that have served? Trust me, I've lived with active alcoholism for 30 years. They don't need anyone to push their buttons. They can go off at the drop of a hat for no damn reason at all.
As recently as May, She was ready to take a 20 million payoff and they would have joint custody. If all she was after was money she could have just signed the papers and walked away with the cash. I believe she is doing the right thing by protecting herself and the child from an abusive drunk. Do you honestly think in California where celebrities get away with murder, she would have stood a chance against Mel Gibson and his high priced lawyers. This is they only thing she could do.
Too many women use their children and honestly that disgusts me more than any of mels words could. I guess Im a horrible womanRip Rokken wrote:Jana wrote:She might be a kook, but she doesn't deserve his vile emotional and physical abuse. No woman does.
I disagree. Whatever the truth about Oksana's motives be, evil manipulative people deserve a lot in the way of karma or justice. Doesn't mean it's right or justified for anyone else to become the instrument of karma or justice, any more than it's right for a tiger to bite the hand off some kid who sticks his hand in it's cage. But, technically if the kid was purposefully trying to provoke the tiger, then he gets what's coming to him. Everyone loses.
Rip Rokken wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Don wrote:I didn't think about that.Do you ever use the "N" word?
After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.
Are you serious? What is that anyway?
Rip Rokken wrote:Andrew wrote:If that be the case, there is still NO defending Mel and he was a hero of mine. I can't believe you are even tring to!
I thought in the Outback all guys slapped their Shielas around! That's not what they do there?
Awww, Im so offended7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.
7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.
Rip Rokken wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Yeah, but think about all the women you know. Do you know one who would not give it right back when being talked to that way? She was too calm because she had a purpose. To push his buttons into rage for her own benefit. They are promoting her music now on the rag showsSince 78 wrote:Behshad wrote:Why doesnt anyone question this money hungry bitch's calm voice while provoking the guy!?
No , Im not defending Gibsons behavior, but this bitch is out for fortune and fame.
I think shes trying to get proof of abuse. She is definitely baiting him.so predictable! The words he chose were wrong, but I choose wrong words sometimes too. Should I be ruined publicly? I just think this was self serving on her part. If her soul intention was to protect the child, it never should have been public. I will never believe she didn't have a hand in that.
That's exactly what I'm saying, and to answer BobbyInTN, I'm definitely not excusing Mel for anything. He's apparently an out-of-control ape and he deserves what's coming to him. But so does she if she baited him -- it's called "karma". No excuses for Mel, but I still want to hear his side of the story to find out what he's so pissed off about. You don't threaten to burn down a house or plant someone in a rose garden for lying about having breast implants.
The tabloids love villain/victim stories so they always put someone in the good role vs. the bad role. It's almost never that simple, and neither are they sincere because they also love to flip the script and expose their victims as villains and visa versa when it suits them to sell more mags.
And that's fine. And if he indeed did do that to her, then he will get charged, and hopefully justice will be served. And hopefully he does get help, because it is WRONG. What irritates me is how MANY PEOPLE become media sheep. With ONE SIDE to a story. With her tapes and who knows if the tapes themselves were manipulated. That is up to the authorities to decide what happened. He is being tried and judged and convicted by the public and press with only half the evidence and it's ridiculous. Everyone loves a juicy hollywood storyJana wrote:7 Wishes wrote:I'm shocked that women - any women - would defend this asshole or even give him the benefit of the doubt. He has shown the world what he's made of.
Any man that hits a women in the face knocking out a tooth while she's holding their baby and tells her on another occasion she effin deserved it, I have ZERO respect for. He has serious issues.
Don wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Don wrote:I didn't think about that.Do you ever use the "N" word?
After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.
Are you serious? What is that anyway?
It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.
And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.
Rip Rokken wrote:Don wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Rip Rokken wrote:Don wrote:I didn't think about that.Do you ever use the "N" word?
After watching The Boondocks marathon on Cartoon network, I can't stop using it.
Are you serious? What is that anyway?
It's a cartoon on Cartoon Network. The N word get's used a minimum of 3 or 4 dozen times every episode, with plenty of Hoe, bitch whore and everything else you can think of being associated with black stereotypes. The creator of the show is black and to him what we think of as stereo types he see as reality and he presents it as such.
And no, I don't go around calling all the women in our customer service department hoes or nigga's.
Dang, are you serious? When do they show that? I know it's not strictly a kids channel but hopefully not mixed in with the kiddie toons.
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