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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:19 pm

Fact Finder wrote:I'll say again, ya'll ready for this?

During the interview that was prerecorded President Trump said he was sending an entire armada to North Korea including submarines.


Yea Go WAR!!!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:54 pm

Fact Finder wrote:I'll say again, ya'll ready for this?

President Donald Trump sat down with Maria Bartiromo for an interview that will air Wednesday at 6:00 AM ET on Fox Business Network.

The president is expected to address the Syria airstrikes, the state of the U.S.-Russia relationship, new Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch, his meeting with China’s president, his tough talk on North Korea and much more.

During the interview that was prerecorded President Trump said he was sending an entire armada to North Korea including submarines.


I disagree with the bolded part...not because I don't think little Kim needs to be put away, but because we shouldn't be giving NK a heads up on what the fuck we are going to do. Why show our hand?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Today in irony: Governor Bentley who couldn't vote for Trump due to the sex scandals, goes down in flames due to sexual encounters with a former aide. Gotta love that.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:00 pm

steveo777 wrote:I disagree with the bolded part...not because I don't think little Kim needs to be put away, but because we shouldn't be giving NK a heads up on what the fuck we are going to do. Why show our hand?


Especially when it's the guy that criticized the former administration for telegraphing their military actions.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:02 pm

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:12 pm

Monker wrote:In the 1980's, Republicans would have been up in arms about this. Nowadays it seems they are pro-Russia and pro-Putin, Seems the "evil empire" is actually quite a good thing to today's Republicans and Trump supporters.


WRONG. Actually, the hardliners in the GOP were totally against Reagan talking with Gorbachev. They wanted him to nuke Russia. Instead, Reagan went to Reykjavik and discussed disarmament. What has really happened, is that the Democrats (formerly the party of peaceniks) have become total hawks since Hillary's defeat. She has turned them all into good little neocons and they keep on marching right along. You're proof of that.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:00 am

wrong.

Whatever, you just ignored the reality of what I said and substituted whatever your head was fantasizing about.

The former President of Russia goes to Twitter and writes a dictating msg about the bombing of Syria. So, what happens? Naive Boomchild posts it as some type of meaningful critique.

It isn't. It's a communist wanting how we deal with Syria (and Russia) to favor his, and his countries, opinions on how they should be. I don't care what he predected or what his opinion of our actions are because he does not have our best interests in mind.

As I said, in the 1980's, people would not be looking to the USSR for quotes to pass around tht favored their views, especially supporters of Reagan or Bush.

WRONG. Actually, the hardliners in the GOP were totally against Reagan talking with Gorbachev.


Yep...and they would be against listening to Tweets from him today.

They wanted him to nuke Russia.


Oh, I don't think they wanted to end the world over it. But, they didn't want to agree with the USSR and adopt a foreign policy that favored them. Unlike today where Republicans favoring Russia seems to be in vogue.

Instead, Reagan went to Reykjavik and discussed disarmament.


Yes, but he still didn't blindly trust the USSR. "Trust but verify." He said Gorbachev was someone he could work with, and even became somewhat friendly with. But, he was still a communist and I doubt very, very much he would go about spreading his Tweets about how the US should act.

What has really happened, is that the Democrats (formerly the party of peaceniks) have become total hawks since Hillary's defeat.


LOL.

She has turned them all into good little neocons and they keep on marching right along. You're proof of that.


So, now I am a neocon. That's Hillary-ious. You didn't even read my post. I don't think the bombing did much of anything except to appease some critics. Maybe it made Trump the Tyrant feel some power as well. But, other than that it meant nothing. I did not, and do not, support more action in Syria. I did not say the bombing should not have happened, either. When children and babies died by poison gas in the past, where was Trump's outcry then? This isn't the first time Assad gassed his own people.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby tj » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:20 am

Monker wrote:
Quit believing everything you read. This is pure propaganda. Trump isn't a dictator, yet, and can't force congress to accept his budget.


Good advice to quit believing everything I read, so I won't believe anything you write. :) My point here isn't that Trump would force congress to do anything. They won't act on their own, regardless of whether Trump, Hilary, Obama, Bush, Reagan, or anyone else proposes something. It is completely against their interest to do it, unless something like BRAC gives them cover for doing so. Even then, I doubt that they would do it. Just hand the problem over to our grandkids.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:25 am

tj wrote:
Monker wrote:
Quit believing everything you read. This is pure propaganda. Trump isn't a dictator, yet, and can't force congress to accept his budget.


Good advice to quit believing everything I read, so I won't believe anything you write. :)


That's fine...I don't mind that at all. Let me know if you find anything.

My point here isn't that Trump would force congress to do anything. They won't act on their own, regardless of whether Trump, Hilary, Obama, Bush, Reagan, or anyone else proposes something. It is completely against their interest to do it, unless something like BRAC gives them cover for doing so. Even then, I doubt that they would do it. Just hand the problem over to our grandkids.


Here is the problem: Even if Trump DID all of those things, that is NOT going to put much of a dent into the deficit. The budget is taken almost entirely by two things:

The military. You are not taking balancing the budget seriously if you are proposing to INCREASE military spending, and it is a laughable concept when it is an increase by the amount that Trump wants to increase it. If you want a balanced budget, cut some military spending.

Entitlements, especially Medicare/Medicade and Social Security. You are also not taking balancing the budget seriously if you are not going to cut back on those entitlements.

Finally, taxes should be increased on the rich. Again, you can't balance the budget unless there is a tax increase on the richest Americans.

Doing things like ending the EPA, or the NEoA ,or defunding PBS, or defending Planned Parenthood are ALL drops of water in an ocean. They amount to nothing. In fact, these people KNOW that...they are simply a way for conservative Republicans to score political points. Taxing Capital Gains as income would be significant. You can cut billions from the military. Working Americans should not have to pay for millionaires to receive Social Security benefits. Those are things that would significantly reduce the deficit...but politics stops them from happening.

Here is a chart I just randomly grabbed for the 2015 budget...but they all pretty much tell the same story...roughly 3/4 of the budget is military and entitlements:

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:04 am

Monker wrote:
Even YOU said a few weeks ago that congress would get in line because of Trump...


On healthcare, I could not give two shits. If I said this, quote me.


We were not talking specifics, but in the broader term of legislating his agenda. Repeal/Replace ObamaCare is part of that agenda.

But, regardless, you are saying Republicans do not have to be 'conservative' any longer and will fall in line to pass Trump's agenda:

On page 37, I said:
All of Trump's liberal spending and monsterous tax cuts isn't going to get past congress. He'll propose a budget and it will be DOA, just like all Presidential budgets are. Then we'll see what congress works out...and if Trump hates it enough to veto it.

That is where the rubber meets the road on all of this crap Trump wants to do, legislatively. And, it has not much to do with Democrats...it has to do with fiscal conservative Republicans who were voted in to reign in Obama's spending...and simple conservative sensibilities. They complained when W. did this, and are hypocrites if they allow Trump to do THE EXACT SAME THING.


On page 39, you replied and chopped it up with:

Monker wrote:
And, it has not much to do with Democrats...it has to do with fiscal conservative Republicans who were voted in to reign in Obama's spending...and simple conservative sensibilities. They complained when W. did this, and are hypocrites if they allow Trump to do THE EXACT SAME THING.

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You still don't get it. Trump remade the Republican party. Strict conservative sensibilities don't have to be followed. Stephen Moore from the Heritage Foundation even told GOP officials, "you are no longer Reagan's party, you are now a populist party." Trump was the first candidate since Perot to tackle NAFTA and the trade deficit as a centerpiece of his campaign. Even the GOP establishment hated him.


The point I was making, and will continue to make, is that he can not legislate his agenda because of the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus. They do NOT play by party rules. In fact, if the party tries to dictate to them, I'm sure many will defy it just because they can. THAT is who people like FF and KC WANTED back in 2010, 2012, 2014...and, in fact, Trump to that rebel attitude they kinda share.

Your point is that Trump is Gandalf and somehow used his staff to remake the Republican party and cause the Tea Party to vote differently. That just is NOT going to happen. The health care bill is evidence of that. The budget debate will be more evidence of that...if a budget is even passed.

Trump is going to find it hard to get anything legislatively done....and it won't be the Democrats doing...
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:39 pm

Monker wrote:As I said, in the 1980's, people would not be looking to the USSR for quotes to pass around tht favored their views, especially supporters of Reagan or Bush.


The USSR doesn't exist anymore, dumb ass. To quote SP at the Hall of Fame, "are you fucking shitting me?"
You are comparing Russia in 2017, a country with a GDP the size of Spain, to the USSR which was comprised of nearly 20 republics! :shock:

Monker wrote:Yep...and they would be against listening to Tweets from him today.


Hardliners should always be ignored. If Presidents listened to hardliners, America would be a pile of glowing rubble.

Monker wrote:Oh, I don't think they wanted to end the world over it. But, they didn't want to agree with the USSR and adopt a foreign policy that favored them. Unlike today where Republicans favoring Russia seems to be in vogue.


Again, you are comparing the USSR to Russia now. It's just historically bogus.

Monker wrote:Yes, but he still didn't blindly trust the USSR. "Trust but verify." He said Gorbachev was someone he could work with, and even became somewhat friendly with. But, he was still a communist and I doubt very, very much he would go about spreading his Tweets about how the US should act.


Hardliners didn't want detente with Soviet Union anymore than they wanted JFK diplomacy with the Cuban Missile Crisis. It goes on and on. Reagan's legacy is that of a peacemaker. The Democrats have now become heirs to the legacy of George W. Bush and preemptive war. I remember under Bush watching Al Jazeera was considered a treasonous act. Now if you watch Russia Today (a great network btw) you are considered treasonous. Madness.
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How many liberal pundits (Joy Reid, Olbermann, etc) expressed outrage that the Russians were given advance notice of the Syrian strike? If we hadn't done that, we'd probably be in WW3 right now. Keep whistling past the graveyard. The Democrats are largely responsible for creating a climate of anti-Russia hysteria and war mongering.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:52 am

Fact Finder wrote:According to several sources, North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un has ordered 600,000 people to evacuate the capital city of Pyongyang. The report originally appeared in Pravda, but a reporter for Channel News Asia tweeted that foreign journalists have been told to prepare to move out of the capital – without their cell phones.

We've been told to be ready to move out at 620am, but no idea why. Also, no cell phones allowed. #Pyongyang #Dprk pic.twitter.com/DO1yziIEMq
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Daily Express:
Reports in Russian newspaper Pravda Report claim more than 600,000 people – around 25 per cent of the city's population – are being urgently evacuated, as tensions escalate between North Korea and the United States.


Yeah, without their cell phones, basically to insure these people don't have access to what is really going on.

I'm thinking this situation could actually backfire on that useless North Korean fat fuck. Look at it from the standpoint of the people over there suffering because of him. In their mind, they may say, we can do what he wants and risk dying, or best case scenario, this whole thing blows over and return to the miserable life we have. Or we could risk trying to take the fat fuck out ourselves. Both are a gamble.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:54 am

Fact Finder wrote:U.S. forces have dropped what is known as the "mother of all bombs" in Afghanistan. The device is the largest non-nuclear device in the Air Force arsenal, Fox News' Jennifer Griffin reported. It was dropped in Nangarhar Province, an eastern area near the Pakistan border. It's the first time the 21,000-pound ordnance has been used in combat, said Griffin. The device, developed in 2003 by the U.S. Air Force, is called the M.O.A.B, short for Massive Ordnance Air Blast. It's often referred to as the "mother of all bombs."


My....that's quite a heap of smoldering chicken nuggets in the sand.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Apr 14, 2017 4:11 am

Fact Finder wrote:U.S. forces have dropped what is known as the "mother of all bombs" in Afghanistan. The device is the largest non-nuclear device in the Air Force arsenal, Fox News' Jennifer Griffin reported. It was dropped in Nangarhar Province, an eastern area near the Pakistan border. It's the first time the 21,000-pound ordnance has been used in combat, said Griffin. The device, developed in 2003 by the U.S. Air Force, is called the M.O.A.B, short for Massive Ordnance Air Blast. It's often referred to as the "mother of all bombs."


Lots of widowed goats over there now.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:14 am

Fact Finder wrote:
JBlake wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:U.S. forces have dropped what is known as the "mother of all bombs" in Afghanistan. The device is the largest non-nuclear device in the Air Force arsenal, Fox News' Jennifer Griffin reported. It was dropped in Nangarhar Province, an eastern area near the Pakistan border. It's the first time the 21,000-pound ordnance has been used in combat, said Griffin. The device, developed in 2003 by the U.S. Air Force, is called the M.O.A.B, short for Massive Ordnance Air Blast. It's often referred to as the "mother of all bombs."


My....that's quite a heap of smoldering chicken nuggets in the sand.


Just making sure those old bombs still work, Fat Kim might see a couple on Saturday if he misbehaves. I hear North Korea is chock full of tunnels set up for battle, MOABs are known to suck all life right out of tunnel systems. I believe they used the one today on an Afghani tunnel system. Practice practice practice.


We used to write the damnedest things on the side of all the ordnance we dropped in Iraq. I'd love to see what they wrote on the MOAB. I'm sure it was a hoot!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:48 am

Maybe I misread the news this morning or maybe not. But so far the number of ISIS-K terrorists taken out by the MOAB is only around 39. This number is only significant to me if those 39 were all high ranking terrorists.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:40 am

JBlake wrote:Maybe I misread the news this morning or maybe not. But so far the number of ISIS-K terrorists taken out by the MOAB is only around 39. This number is only significant to me if those 39 were all high ranking terrorists.


It wasn't just to take out people. It was to destroy their tunnel system and send a message. They say it has a psychological impact.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:17 am

Memorex wrote:It wasn't just to take out people. It was to destroy their tunnel system and send a message. They say it has a psychological impact.


Lets hope they start to get the message. At least now they know this POTUS isn't going to carpet the area with leaflets letting them know to get the hell out of the area.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:47 pm

Boomchild wrote:
Memorex wrote:It wasn't just to take out people. It was to destroy their tunnel system and send a message. They say it has a psychological impact.


Lets hope they start to get the message. At least now they know this POTUS isn't going to carpet the area with leaflets letting them know to get the hell out of the area.


No, he'll just make a phone call....like when he called Russia who let Syria know before we bombed them. And, if we are the ones blowing up babies, I guess he's OK with that...since civilians won't be who is evacuated, but just who happen to be in the target area.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:43 pm

Monker wrote:No, he'll just make a phone call....like when he called Russia who let Syria know before we bombed them.


Here again is a "liberal Hillary Democrat" advocating for World War III. Crazy, but this is where we are. :roll:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:No, he'll just make a phone call....like when he called Russia who let Syria know before we bombed them.


Here again is a "liberal Hillary Democrat" advocating for World War III. Crazy, but this is where we are. :roll:
If you want to fight Russia so bad Monker, why don't you enlist?


Yeah, calling Trump's actions out against his own critique is "advocating for WW3" What an idiotic statement.

If you want to make a point on an internet forum, why don't you learn how to read and write for meaning first.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:11 pm

Monker wrote:Yeah, calling Trump's actions out against his own critique is "advocating for WW3"


Twice now you have criticized the Trump administration for giving Russia a heads up about Syrian strike. If they had not done so, we would be in WW3. So, yeah, pretty much...

Monker wrote:What an idiotic statement.

Not nearly as idiotic as saying "Donna Brazile also leaked advance debate questions to Bernie!" or "Hillary had permission to use a private server!" or "Trump can't possibly win!" or "Russia hacked the election"!

As always, thanks for the laughs!

Monker wrote:If you want to make a point on an internet forum, why don't you learn how to read and write for meaning first.


You, like the DNC and Hillary, should just apologize to America and go fuck off.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:21 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Twice now you have criticized the Trump administration for giving Russia a heads up about Syrian strike.


No, I criticize Trump for doing exactly what he critiqued Obama for. I did not say it was right or wrong...I am saying there is no difference in what Trump did and what he critiqued Obama for doing.

If they had not done so, we would be in WW3.


You do not know that, either.

Monker wrote:If you want to make a point on an internet forum, why don't you learn how to read and write for meaning first.


You, like the DNC and Hillary, should just apologize to America and go fuck off.[/quote][/quote]

Yeah, right. You are now taking things so far out of context and inventing your own meaning so often that you sound like a complete idiot most of the time. Just like this one sentence above....apologize to America for pointing out that Donald Judas Trump is a hypocrite...and writing it on an internet forum that hardly anybody reads? Yeah, right. Get your head out of your ass...nobody cares about the crap posted here besides the half dozen or so people active in this thread.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:36 am

Monker wrote:No, I criticize Trump for doing exactly what he critiqued Obama for. I did not say it was right or wrong...I am saying there is no difference in what Trump did and what he critiqued Obama for doing.


That's not implied or explicit in what you said. Here's what we know...gullible DNC-owned fools, like you, who think "Russia hacked our election" desperately want war with Russia. Said fools have also repeatedly criticized Trump for giving Russia advance warning about the Syrian strike. Some have gone so far to say that the Syrian strikes were an empty stunt coordinated between Putin and Trump to attempt to distract the US media. This is what you believe. Don't deny it.

Monker wrote:You do not know that, either.


Because Putin will sit idly by as the US blows up Russian soldiers, right? :roll:

Monker wrote:Yeah, right. You are now taking things so far out of context and inventing your own meaning so often that you sound like a complete idiot most of the time.


No, sounding like an idiot would require me to say things like "Hillary had permission to use a private server in a bathroom", "Trump can't win!", "Donna Brazile was just doing her job leaking debate questions to Hillary"...etc. Sound familiar?

Monker wrote:Just like this one sentence above....apologize to America for pointing out that Donald Judas Trump is a hypocrite...and writing it on an internet forum that hardly anybody reads? Yeah, right. Get your head out of your ass...nobody cares about the crap posted here besides the half dozen or so people active in this thread.


So? To alleviate his guilty conscious, King Midas famously dug a dirt hole and whispered his secrets into it. You supported Hillary and cheerleaded DNC cheating in the primaries. Repenting on here would be a good first step to political absolution.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:27 am

Oh, goody, another post of lies from Lyin' TNC. Let's play a game and count the lies:

The_Noble_Cause wrote: Here's what we know...gullible DNC-owned fools, like you, who think "Russia hacked our election" desperately want war with Russia.


Lie #1. I have REPEATEDLY said that it is the FBI who pointed these things out, not the Democrats. The FBI hasn't even shown all the evidence they have because of the ongoing investigation. And, not only the FBI, but the entire intelligence community has said Russia was hacking our election. In addition to that, REPUBLICAN leaders have said the same thing. Regardless of any of that, *I* have never pointed to any Democrat and what they believe...but to the FBI and NSA. So, you are absolutely a liar when you say the DNC "own"s me.

I want war with Russia - lie #2. What *I* want, and have repeatedly said here over the years, and at the old BT Water Cooler forum, over 10yrs of posting, is for us to get the fuck out of the middle east and let them kill each other. But, I know we will never do that until we end our addiction to oil. So, IMO, we should make researching alternative fuels a high priority for national security reasons, not just climate change. I have never once said or implied that I want war with Russia - an outright lie.

Said fools have also repeatedly criticized Trump for giving Russia advance warning about the Syrian strike. Some have gone so far to say that the Syrian strikes were an empty stunt coordinated between Putin and Trump to attempt to distract the US media.


Of course some people said that. That's how some people think. It why I made the joke in the one post that Boomchild replied to. If people can believe 9/11 was W', or the moon landing was fake, or that Hillary was going to jail, they will believe anything.

This is what you believe. Don't deny it.


None of what you said is what I believe...lie #3.

Monker wrote:You do not know that, either.


Because Putin will sit idly by as the US blows up Russian soldiers, right? :roll:


So, in your imaginary world where you can lie freely, there is "do nothing" and "WW3"....and nothing in between Not a lie, as far as I know because you may actually believe those are the only two options.

Monker wrote:Yeah, right. You are now taking things so far out of context and inventing your own meaning so often that you sound like a complete idiot most of the time.


No, sounding like an idiot would require me to say things like "Hillary had permission to use a private server in a bathroom",


Nope, I never said those quoted words. Lie #5

"Trump can't win!"


Yes, I probably did say that.

"Donna Brazile was just doing her job leaking debate questions to Hillary"


Nope, never said those quoted words. Lie #6.

So? To alleviate his guilty conscious, King Midas famously dug a dirt hole and whispered his secrets into it. You supported Hillary and cheerleaded DNC cheating in the primaries. Repenting on here would be a good first step to political absolution.
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Oh, please, I have no guilty conscience, or care much people on here think of me.

And, that is also lie #7. You lied seven times in one post. Must be some type of record.

Once upon a time, a long time ago, Pan, the god of shepherds, challenged Apollo to a musical duel. Pan insisted his flute of reeds could produce a more beautiful melody than Apollo's silly harp. The two agreed on a contest with judges. One of the judges was King Midas.

After hearing the two melodies, all but one of the judges chose Apollo as the winner. But one judge, King Midas, preferred Pan's tune.

Furious that anyone could prefer a reedy pipe to his musical lyre, Apollo cooed, "I see the problem. It's your ears. They are too small to hear properly. Let me fix that for you."

King Midas felt his ears quiver. His ears sprang out, and out, and turned into the large furry ears of an ass. King Midas was horrified. He grabbed his ears. "Pan, help me!" he cried. But Pan, with a quick nervous glance at Apollo, turned his back.

King Midas tried to hide his ears from his subjects by wearing a variety of huge hats, heavy helmets, and bulky scarves. The only person who saw his ears was his barber. King Midas made his barber promise he would never tell a soul.

His barber kept his word. But keeping such a huge secret to himself was driving him crazy. Finally, the barber went up a mountain and almost to the edge of a cliff. He dug a hole in the midst of some reeds. He looked about, to make sure no one was near. Then, he whispered into the hole, "King Midas has the ears of an ass. King's aaaass ears! King's aaaass ears!" Having gotten his secret off his chest, he felt much better. He returned home, sure that he had kept his word.

Unfortunately for King Midas, the barber had dug right into a piece of Echo. You've heard of Echo, right? Pieces of Echo were scattered all over the mountainous kingdom. In fact, pieces of Echo were scattered all over the world.

Although I suppose some people might think it was only the sound of the wind in the reeds, it was really a piece of Echo, whispering over and over, "King's aaaass ears, king's aaaass ears".

Sound travels well in the mountains, even whispers. It was not long before the entire kingdom knew the king's secret.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:00 pm

Monker wrote:Lie #1. I have REPEATEDLY said that it is the FBI who pointed these things out, not the Democrats. The FBI hasn't even shown all the evidence they have because of the ongoing investigation. And, not only the FBI, but the entire intelligence community has said Russia was hacking our election.


You have said, quote, "He only wins when Putin is on his side cheating for him." I don't see any attribution to the FBI. These are your words. Seems this is what YOU believe, which coincidentally is also what the DNC and every Hillary sycophant believes. Additionally, the Russia hacking story is founded on the hacked servers being examined by Crowdstrike – a DNC contracted tech firm. The FBI did not examine the servers. For that matter, no other intel agency did.

Also, as mentioned ad nauseum the "the entire intelligence community" whopper was trotted out during Iraq as well by Colin Powell. Several of the 17 agencies - like the Coast Guard, Dept of Energy, and Navy - wouldn't even have an opinion on Russian hacking. So you are just regurgitating wartime propaganda.

Monker wrote:In addition to that, REPUBLICAN leaders have said the same thing.


Neocons in both parties have wanted war with Russia for awhile. Anyone remember candidate McCain trying to make "We are all Georgians now" a rallying cry? Who cares? Has McCain or Graham ever NOT rubber stamped a Pentagon contract?

Monker wrote:Regardless of any of that, *I* have never pointed to any Democrat and what they believe...but to the FBI and NSA. So, you are absolutely a liar when you say the DNC "own"s me.


But the FBI is relying on Crowdstrike’s analysis of those hacked servers. Crowdstrike is a private tech firm hired by DNC. Stop hiding behind the FBI and the NSA. First, their track record sucks and secondly, they are relying on secondhand intel from DNC.

Monker wrote:I want war with Russia - lie #2. What *I* want, and have repeatedly said here over the years, and at the old BT Water Cooler forum, over 10yrs of posting, is for us to get the fuck out of the middle east and let them kill each other. But, I know we will never do that until we end our addiction to oil. So, IMO, we should make researching alternative fuels a high priority for national security reasons, not just climate change. I have never once said or implied that I want war with Russia - an outright lie.


I was also a member of the BT forums, Monker. And alot has changed since those days. Namely, Hillary has turned Dems like you into warmongers who repeat demonstrably false bullshit like "...but the entire intelligence community agrees!"

Monker wrote:So, in your imaginary world where you can lie freely, there is "do nothing" and "WW3"....and nothing in between Not a lie, as far as I know because you may actually believe those are the only two options.


You have to be pretty deep in the rabbit hole (or is it up your own ass?) to think the US bombing of Russian soldiers would not spark an international incident right now.

Monker wrote:Nope, I never said those quoted words. Lie #5


Here’s the quote defending Hillary's use of a private server. Speaks for itself.

“That's just not true. She had permission to use it. In fact, one of the long spam posts from FF contained the conversation where it was inquired if having her own server was OK.”

Monker wrote:Nope, never said those quoted words. Lie #6.

Here’s the quote where you defend Brazile's cheating. Again, speaks for itself.

“Let's take Brazille. She had an interview where she basically said, "You have only seen one half of the story. There is this other stack of Emails over here that nobody has seen...and I can't comment on them due to privacy."

So, tell me, how do you know that Brazille did not have the exact same conversations with people working with Bernie Sanders? So, both sides knew what to expect and would have full and complete answers to the questions making it a more informative debate...which was HER JOB?”


Monker wrote:Oh, please, I have no guilty conscience, or care much people on here think of me.

And, that is also lie #7. You lied seven times in one post. Must be some type of record.

Once upon a time, a long time ago, Pan, the god of shepherds, challenged Apollo to a musical duel. Pan insisted his flute of reeds could produce a more beautiful melody than Apollo's silly harp. The two agreed on a contest with judges. One of the judges was King Midas.

After hearing the two melodies, all but one of the judges chose Apollo as the winner. But one judge, King Midas, preferred Pan's tune.

Furious that anyone could prefer a reedy pipe to his musical lyre, Apollo cooed, "I see the problem. It's your ears. They are too small to hear properly. Let me fix that for you."

King Midas felt his ears quiver. His ears sprang out, and out, and turned into the large furry ears of an ass. King Midas was horrified. He grabbed his ears. "Pan, help me!" he cried. But Pan, with a quick nervous glance at Apollo, turned his back.

King Midas tried to hide his ears from his subjects by wearing a variety of huge hats, heavy helmets, and bulky scarves. The only person who saw his ears was his barber. King Midas made his barber promise he would never tell a soul.

His barber kept his word. But keeping such a huge secret to himself was driving him crazy. Finally, the barber went up a mountain and almost to the edge of a cliff. He dug a hole in the midst of some reeds. He looked about, to make sure no one was near. Then, he whispered into the hole, "King Midas has the ears of an ass. King's aaaass ears! King's aaaass ears!" Having gotten his secret off his chest, he felt much better. He returned home, sure that he had kept his word.

Unfortunately for King Midas, the barber had dug right into a piece of Echo. You've heard of Echo, right? Pieces of Echo were scattered all over the mountainous kingdom. In fact, pieces of Echo were scattered all over the world.

Although I suppose some people might think it was only the sound of the wind in the reeds, it was really a piece of Echo, whispering over and over, "King's aaaass ears, king's aaaass ears".

Sound travels well in the mountains, even whispers. It was not long before the entire kingdom knew the king's secret.


Understandably your favorite bedtime story considering the protagonist is a walking jackass.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby AR » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:55 am

At age 48 I can wipe my ass until it is completely bloody raw and still end up with undies with racing stripes later in the day. Anyone else?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby verslibre » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:30 am

AR wrote:At age 48 I can wipe my ass until it is completely bloody raw and still end up with undies with racing stripes later in the day. Anyone else?


More fiber.

P.S. TMI. :lol:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:35 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Media Matters won. Fox will morph into another liberal propaganda station for idiots like Monker to lap up.

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-fires ... 51947.html


Perhaps he'll get a deal with CRTV.
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