Your thoughts: 'A Place In Your Heart' as a single...

[jrnyman28]

i think they should take a little risk and release "out of harms way" to rock stations and see how that does.

Sounds like a hell of an idea!

I have said this before as well!
There is a lot they could do with this song commercially, visibly, and still touch a chord with the audience due to the world events!

[Argus]

Hi Angie.. please don't let the bad taste in your mouth over posts here and the concert color what the music on Generations sounds like. If you read the interviews that Andrew did with the guys you might get a better feel for what they are like really.

F U ace. What I said is right on the money.

It's always about you, isn't it? gimme a break.. you're either off your meds or drink too much. Step away from the computer, dude. This is no way to live your life.

Fuck you AGAIN, Ace. Yu were nowhere during the Sioux Falls episode..Nowhere..Kiss my ass.

You are so over the top with your emotions that you are becoming a parody of yourself. Take a chill pill, quit trying to stir the pot and get over yourself.

[Rockindeano]

Dude, YOU are the one saying it's about me.. I never tried to hog the spotlight...You need to either step it up, or shut the fuck up.

[Fernando Ramirez]

Nice mouth. YOU were the one who wanted me to come here so bad and then you pull this crap? I think not. I posted what the fair management said on Back Talk. It was the same thing as what people posting reviews got for an answer too. YOU *and* Journey can shove your attitude and your cd. [/color][/size][/b]

So much for supporting great melodic rock. Apparently, you have to agree with everything the disc jockey says and thinks, and then she'll *think* about playing your melodic rock music. Thanks for that stellar example of what is wrong with radio today!

[Red13JoePa]

So true, Ramirez. The old, "I'm taking my ball and going home."

[Fernando Ramirez]

8) So true, Ramirez. The old, "I'm taking my ball and going home."

Yeah, man... I wish the soundscape out there was different, and that bands like Journey had more of a chance nowadays. We'll just have to support them the best way we can, 'cause nobody else will.

I just hope outsiders don't think they are not welcome here. You know, maybe sometimes we all take things a little too personally. I mean, we can all agree to disagree... I think we're all open to that.

[Greg]

Well, I think it's a great track to release as well...would love for them to release A Better Life or It's Never Too late...

But, let's see how much success the first track gets first.

[Red13JoePa]

If it gets 1/2 a chance from radio it should be a success. I was stunned and amazed last night between 6 and 7 ET time to hear the DJ on 97.5 The Hawk Philly go into a very detailed and accurate description of JRNY's current activities and plans after playing WHeel In The sky. He had every fact about the tour, the album giveaway, the Album Title, the reason for the title (30th anniv) local dates and the Official retail release through Sanctuary, the right release date and the accurate info about the 2 added tracks apart from the giveaway. he went on about the album and tour a good 30 seconds. I plan on hounding this station now to make sure they know TPIYH is coming.... some backtalker in the Philly area go ahead and let the official website know that 97.5 in Philly is talking up Generations and needs to get the singles. I'm not registered on the offical site.

[Rockindeano]

Nice mouth. YOU were the one who wanted me to come here so bad and then you pull this crap? I think not. I posted what the fair management said on Back Talk. It was the same thing as what people posting reviews got for an answer too. YOU *and* Journey can shove your attitude and your cd.

I am writing this response, publicly, to officially apologize for my crap-filled mouth.

Angie, I am sincerely sorry I used those words and those hurtful comments. I do understand this is only a keyboard, but the results of the words are the same. To the people of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, I too apologize to you as well.

I am passionate about the band, and while there is definitely a disagreement, I obviously could have used better communicative skills. There are some on this board whose mission is to tear down and destroy. I have my hands filled dealing with those chumps, and Angie, I mixed you into that horrible group. Sorry for that too.

Anyway, I would hope we could really discuss the SD fiasco, not because it is that important, but as an example of how the Band and venues handle such issues.

[Angiekay]

I am writing this response, publicly, to officially apologize for my crap-filled mouth.

Angie, I am sincerely sorry I used those words and those hurtful comments. I do understand this is only a keyboard, but the results of the words are the same. To the people of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, I too apologize to you as well.

Thank you, Dean.

Anyway, I would hope we could really discuss the SD fiasco, not because it is that important, but as an example of how the Band and venues handle such issues.

I think I'll pass. I can see this place is not much different then Back Talk. If you don't agree with Journey fans or kiss the bands ass, you're dense, arrogant, uncooperative, and you are called names and sworn at. Thanks, but no thanks, I don't need that.

Good luck to you all.

[NealIsGod]

I can see this place is not much different then Back Talk. If you don't agree with Journey fans, you're dense, arrogant, uncooperative, and you are called names and sworn at. Thanks, but no thanks, I don't need that.

You couldn't be more wrong. We constantly criticize Journey for any mistakes we see them make, or what we see as mistakes. BT is a bunch of housewives with crushes and sissy guys. mr.com is full of informed, insightful people with open minds. You see threads in here that would be instantly removed from BT. We attack people who come in with an agenda, in other words, just come here to criticize the band with no substance behind what they say. The sole purpose is to try to upset people. Anyone who comes on here and has an opinion and backs it up with an intelligent argument is welcomed.

[jrnyman28]

I think I'll pass. I can see this place is not much different then Back Talk. If you don't agree with Journey fans or kiss the bands ass, you're dense, arrogant, uncooperative, and you are called names and sworn at. Thanks, but no thanks, I don't need that.

Good luck to you all.

Oh C'MON Angie, have you actually READ the threads on this board???
We are realists on this board. If I think something is good, I say so. If I think something is bad, I say so. And I DO think Journey has done a lot of stupid things. I am not really interested in revisiting the Sioux Falls incident, I do (more or less) side with the band on this one, but don't run away thinking 'we are blind followers of Journey. 'We' are passionate, and 'we' are defensive towards individuals who simply attack. But 'we' are realistic and know that NO ONE is perfect.

[Angiekay]

Oh C'MON Angie, have you actually READ the threads on this board???
We are realists on this board. If I think something is good, I say so. If I think something is bad, I say so. And I DO think Journey has done a lot of stupid things. I am not really interested in revisiting the Sioux Falls incident, I do (more or less) side with the band on this one, but don't run away thinking 'we are blind followers of Journey. 'We' are passionate, and 'we' are defensive towards individuals who simply attack. But 'we' are realistic and know that NO ONE is perfect.

And *I* have the right to decide if *I* will play new Journey music on *my* show based on how *I* think the people Sioux Falls were treated that night. I also have the right to do that without getting sworn at or being chastised for it. Works both ways.

[NealIsGod]

Oh C'MON Angie, have you actually READ the threads on this board???
We are realists on this board. If I think something is good, I say so. If I think something is bad, I say so. And I DO think Journey has done a lot of stupid things. I am not really interested in revisiting the Sioux Falls incident, I do (more or less) side with the band on this one, but don't run away thinking 'we are blind followers of Journey. 'We' are passionate, and 'we' are defensive towards individuals who simply attack. But 'we' are realistic and know that NO ONE is perfect.

And *I* have the right to decide if *I* will play new Journey music on *my* show based on how *I* think the people Sioux Falls were treated that night. I also have the right to do that without getting sworn at or being chastised for it. Works both ways.

With all due respect, I think you should base your playlists on what your listeners want to hear. Ozzy pissed on The Alamo, and he still gets played in Texas!

[jrnyman28]

I also have the right to do that without getting sworn at or being chastised for it. Works both ways.

Yes, that is true.

[Angiekay]

With all due respect, I think you should base your playlists on what your listeners want to hear. Ozzy pissed on The Alamo, and he still gets played in Texas!

From the listeners I've talked to in the past two weeks, they couldn't care less either. So, I should be impressed with a stoned, washed out old man who usually can't find his ass from a hole in the ground, just because he can still play in Texas? lol

[Fernando Ramirez]

With all due respect, I think you should base your playlists on what your listeners want to hear. Ozzy pissed on The Alamo, and he still gets played in Texas!

I can verify that. Ozzy STILL GETS a lot of radio play here. I hear his music when I switch from one compact disc to another!

I LIVE in San Antonio, and I remember that day very clearly. Outside of biting the head off the dove at his record company, that Alamo incident MADE Ozzy Osbourne's career, as far as I can see. Did any of the rockers here care about it? Nope. It made him even more popular. He was even banned here for something like 15 years, and he came back afterwards by giving some serious bank to the Daughters of the Republic of Texas.

[yak]

TPIYH is the most identifiably Journey song on the whole CD, and by far the most radio friendly.

I agree! Release "The Place in Your Heart!" It's an awesome song, it rocks, Steve sounds great, it's radio friendly, it's catchy, and it shows Journey is back. Some people may have lost track of the band, but will hear this on radio and will realize that Journey is still out there!

[Red13JoePa]

Guess that's why you'll be forever on the air in Sioux Falls, AngieK.

[Angiekay]

Guess that's why you'll be forever on the air in Sioux Falls, AngieK.

LMAO! Guess you'll never know huh? You'll be stuck at your dead end job hanging out on a website trying to make friends and act cool because no one else will listen to you. Who will be the worse off?


Psst...not me.

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, man. I guarantee more people listen to me in my dead end job every day than hear you on your 100 watt station in the graveyard shift. How many more goodbyes are you gonna give us before you make good

[Abitaman]

Oh C'MON Angie, have you actually READ the threads on this board???
We are realists on this board. If I think something is good, I say so. If I think something is bad, I say so. And I DO think Journey has done a lot of stupid things. I am not really interested in revisiting the Sioux Falls incident, I do (more or less) side with the band on this one, but don't run away thinking 'we are blind followers of Journey. 'We' are passionate, and 'we' are defensive towards individuals who simply attack. But 'we' are realistic and know that NO ONE is perfect.

And *I* have the right to decide if *I* will play new Journey music on *my* show based on how *I* think the people Sioux Falls were treated that night. I also have the right to do that without getting sworn at or being chastised for it. Works both ways.

This is what is wrong with the music buss. You should play the song one night and see what people think and judge from there. Not play God over "your" town. What you think may not be right, but agian may be. Let the people decide.-ERIC

[Angiekay]

[quote="Red13JoePa"]Hey, man. I guarantee more people listen to me in my dead end job every day than hear you on your 100 watt station in the graveyard shift. [quote]


I'm sure they do. When your interaction with people everyday is "Would you like fries with that" I'm sure you're aching for something to do. Since you have no clue(that's pretty obvious)about Sioux Falls, it's size or what shift I'm really on, I'll tell you that it doesn't matter where you are or what size the market is, radio is a pretty damn cool job.

Could I have an apple pie to go?

[Angiekay]

This is what is wrong with the music buss. You should play the song one night and see what people think and judge from there. Not play God over "your" town. What you think may not be right, but agian may be. Let the people decide.-ERIC

No, what is wrong with the music biz, is people like you who don't support what IS on the radio station or voicing only your negative spew. If I WERE God, though, I'd teach you how to spell. Maybe I could take your comments more seriously if I could understand what the hell you are saying.

[Angiekay]

How many more goodbyes are you gonna give us before you make good

Oh, if I irritate you, then I'll stay here forever.

[Abitaman]

This is what is wrong with the music buss. You should play the song one night and see what people think and judge from there. Not play God over "your" town. What you think may not be right, but agian may be. Let the people decide.-ERIC

No, what is wrong with the music biz, is people like you who don't support what IS on the radio station or voicing only your negative spew. If I WERE God, though, I'd teach you how to spell. Maybe I could take your comments more seriously if I could understand what the hell you are saying.

First off I do support my radio station. Also, if you don't like somthing why show support. Look at any post, nowhere near 100% is everything I say negative, I was not being negative to you. If you were God, you would know is not my spelling, but my typing that is bad. If you had a first grade education you would be able to tell what I was saying, and wouldn't have go personal go someone (I was being negative there!, but you knew that right?) Because I did not go negative on you, I asked you about giving the song one shot, one night, to give it a fair chance and not you judge what you think your town should hear-ERIC

[Angiekay]

Because I did not go negative on you, I asked you about giving the song one shot, one night, to give it a fair chance and not you judge what you think your town should hear-ERIC

I'll play the song as soon as someone gives me a LOGICAL explaination as to why I should. If the band or their management gave two craps about it getting on the radio why were we repeatedly turned down for a copy of the cd? They obviously really don't care whether it gets played or not. Probably why you are not hearing it on any other radio station...they didn't get one! They just don't want to part with a copy of it, unless it is given away at a concert. OUR concert didn't get one, and they STILL haven't sent us a copy. *I* had to get it from a webmaster! That tells me they don't care. If they don't care, why should I? There are plenty of other great classic rock bands with new cd's out right now that are more then willing to give us the music to put on the air!!! How hard IS that?! I just don't get that. You have a product, you would think that they'd want as many people as possible to hear it, but they won't give it to the radio stations. Yet, I'M the one being blasted for playing "God"!? Get real.

[jrnyman28]

I would like to re-iterate that the promo CDs will probably be sent out soon to radio as the single is ready, the CD is ready and therefore Journey management/Sanctuary are ready.

[Rockindeano]

I'll play the song as soon as someone gives me a LOGICAL explaination as to why I should. If the band or their management gave two craps about it getting on the radio why were we repeatedly turned down for a copy of the cd? They obviously really don't care whether it gets played or not. Probably why you are not hearing it on any other radio station...they didn't get one! They just don't want to part with a copy of it, unless it is given away at a concert. OUR concert didn't get one, and they STILL haven't sent us a copy. *I* had to get it from a webmaster! That tells me they don't care. If they don't care, why should I? There are plenty of other great classic rock bands with new cd's out right now that are more then willing to give us the music to put on the air!!! How hard IS that?! I just don't get that. You have a product, you would think that they'd want as many people as possible to hear it, but they won't give it to the radio stations. Yet, I'M the one being blasted for playing "God"!? Get real.

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She certainly has a point. I agree. Why should radio play the songs if there is no real sense of urgency to get it to them? Ok, so they are releasing(finally), so I will wait a week...But Angie is correct. Why should Radio do ALL the work? Why should radio go out of their way to play Journey if Journey management doesn't care? Hell, Radio IS the vehicle!

I am almost at the point where why should the fans care as much as we do, when the Band Mgt. sucks so poorly?

[Abitaman]

Because I did not go negative on you, I asked you about giving the song one shot, one night, to give it a fair chance and not you judge what you think your town should hear-ERIC

I'll play the song as soon as someone gives me a LOGICAL explaination as to why I should. If the band or their management gave two craps about it getting on the radio why were we repeatedly turned down for a copy of the cd? They obviously really don't care whether it gets played or not. Probably why you are not hearing it on any other radio station...they didn't get one! They just don't want to part with a copy of it, unless it is given away at a concert. OUR concert didn't get one, and they STILL haven't sent us a copy. *I* had to get it from a webmaster! That tells me they don't care. If they don't care, why should I? There are plenty of other great classic rock bands with new cd's out right now that are more then willing to give us the music to put on the air!!! How hard IS that?! I just don't get that. You have a product, you would think that they'd want as many people as possible to hear it, but they won't give it to the radio stations. Yet, I'M the one being blasted for playing "God"!? Get real.

I am real, and so is your answer. I knew you did not get the cd at the concert, and you and some of the peopl in your town was pissed about it. BUT, I did not know (either didn't see the post on it or forgot about it), that you had not gotten a copy from them. I knew you got a copy and I thought it was from the Journey camp, so I could not understand your reason for not playing the song. Mybe in the weeks to come you will get a copy from their new label, and then you will play it. But thank you for explaining what I missed. And thank you for doing it with out being "negative". I'll try and watch my typing around you too, but at times when the kids are around me it is hard to do.-ERIC