Goddammit!

[NoMoreTails]

Steve Augeri is the lead singer for Journey. Steve Perry is almost 60 and can no longer handle anything beyond some BG vox....To us, Journey is NEAL SCHON and the songs that we all love.

I agree, as I wrote on that other site(BT), Steve A is better at 46 than Perry was at 36...I prefer him to Perry at 26 (that may have been when Perry was working on the turkey farm, before Herbie offered him a life raft...)
How can someone appreciate the raspy sound of Perry's later works and not care for Steve's "sweet" for lack of a better word, current sound?
Neal has always been Journey for me, but it feels much more like a team now.

Well I certainly don't agree that Augeri is better than Perry at ANY age!

The FACTS are that when Perry was frontman for Journey, HE sang LEAD VOCALS on ALL the songs for many years! Perry didn't have to have ALL the band members HELPING him out with the share of singing lead vocals like Augeri. Also Perry didn't require for ANY of his band members to HELP him to hit the "high notes", when singing either.

Neal says in his interview that Augeri is having problems with his midrange as well. This is AFTER 7 years of Augeri being in the band.

Lori

Journey didn't do 3 hour shows when Perry was in the band. No one could sing lead for 3 hours.
The shows I've seen for the last two tours, Steve didnt need help on high parts, yet shared some of them with Deen anyway. Perry's ego would have been too big to allow this (if they'd Deen at the time).
Journey does not tune down as the would if Perry were the vocalist now.
They do the songs now coser to the they were originally recorded than they did on the Frontiers tour. Most of Greatest Hits live sounds like shit IMO.
Steve's problems this tour were during the first few shows, 2 months ago. Perryheads will still be rehashing Neal's comment 2 years from now.
When Perry had voice problems, he just cancelled shows, and never re-scheduled them.
Perry could do amazing things with his voice in his prime, those days are long gone, if he could still do it, he'd be on tour with Journey now.

[Andrew]

Perry didn't have to have ALL the band members HELPING him out with the share of singing lead vocals like Augeri. Also Perry didn't require for ANY of his band members to HELP him to hit the "high notes", when singing either.

However, in 2005, if he rejoined the band - things would be VERY different indeed.

[Rockindeano]

However, in 2005, if he rejoined the band - things would be VERY different indeed.

I'll go one better. If Perry "tried out" for Journey, 2005, He would get cut...

And I'm sorry, but that's the truth.

[PROPERRY]

Well Deano & Andrew, I hardly think the TWO of you are "in the know" of how it would turn out if Perry "tried out" for Journey in 2005.

Andrew, have you done any interviews with Perry recently??? I don't think so!!!

The two of you sound as bad as Jonathan making that rude comment about his "voice & body" in his most recent interview. Jon TOTALLY contradicts himself by saying something like,"He doesn't know what is going on with that (Health) or "What is happening with him from day to day". So what the heck is Jonathan commenting for about his voice & body, since he says himself he doesn't know?????

The people who REALLY know what his singing abilities are the ones that have "worked with him", such as Jeff Golub & most recently David Pack with the song 'A Brand New Start". And of course, Steve Perry himself knows!

As for ME though, I've got the David Pack CD & I have listened to Perry sing, and HE sounds incredible!!!!


Lori

[Andrew]

Andrew, have you done any interviews with Perry recently??? I don't think so!!!

No, he has turned down every request for an interview since 1998.

[Rockindeano]

Well Deano & Andrew, I hardly think the TWO of you are "in the know" of how it would turn out if Perry "tried out" for Journey in 2005.

Andrew, have you done any interviews with Perry recently??? I don't think so!!!

The two of you sound as bad as Jonathan making that rude comment about his "voice & body" in his most recent interview. Jon TOTALLY contradicts himself by saying something like,"He doesn't know what is going on with that (Health) or "What is happening with him from day to day". So what the heck is Jonathan commenting for about his voice & body, since he says himself he doesn't know?????

The people who REALLY know what his singing abilities are the ones that have "worked with him", such as Jeff Golub & most recently David Pack with the song 'A Brand New Start". And of course, Steve Perry himself knows!

As for ME though, I've got the David Pack CD & I have listened to Perry sing, and HE sounds incredible!!!!


Lori

Why are you arguing? Like Andrew said, "We all love Steve Perry." However, why can't you seem to decipher the fact that He is no longer wanting to be here..to be present and active, to be talked about.

You might have heard him sing "recently" but that is horsepooky..That song was recorded a couple years ago. Perry, if he really wanted to perform, would if he could. Remember he said on BTM, "I think about it everyday." Ok so giving Perry the benefit of the doubt, he is either LYING about wanting to perform, or CAN'T because of singing decline.

What would you say PROPERRY if he put something out, and it was inferior to current day Augeri? You would be devastated.

Be careful for what you wish for.

I would be the FIRST one to say, "I was wrong" regarding his singing IF he could do it..Sadly, looks like he won't be....

Is that the kind of hero you all want? Someone who is either lying, too lazy, or both?

PS- PROPERRY..if Steve put out another solo album, and it sucked, and he sucked too, I wouldn't come crashing down on you. I know how that feels

[NealIsGod]

As for ME though, I've got the David Pack CD & I have listened to Perry sing, and HE sounds incredible!!!!


Lori

And as for US, we have a concert tour and a whole CD of some of the best Journey work ever. And THEY sound incredible!!!!

[jrnyman28]

Well Deano & Andrew, I hardly think the TWO of you are "in the know" of how it would turn out if Perry "tried out" for Journey in 2005.

But they CAN draw realistic conclusions based on past history.

Andrew, have you done any interviews with Perry recently??? I don't think so!!!

Why do you think Perry continues to decline requests for interviews? Why is it that the only times he does talk are to people close to him? Or one sided, Q&A's? I loved that he did the Q&A, it brought some wonderful insights. BUT it was something Perry could control. So are his interviews with Uncle Joe. It is easier for Perry to control the content of such interviews, he can avoid the hard questions. Why is that?

The two of you sound as bad as Jonathan making that rude comment about his "voice & body" in his most recent interview. Jon TOTALLY contradicts himself by saying something like,"He doesn't know what is going on with that (Health) or "What is happening with him from day to day". So what the heck is Jonathan commenting for about his voice & body, since he says himself he doesn't know?????

True, Jon doesn't know, but he can also draw realistic conclusions based on what he does know, which is a hell of a lot more than what we (that includes you) know. And without knocking Perry at all, Jon knows how hard it is to tour the way Journey is, at the ages the guys in Journey are, at the age Perry is, and from the standpoint of a vocalist. Jon knows how much more strenuous touring is on the voice than it is on the people who play instruments. We all know that. So Jon (and Andrew and Deano) can form educated opinions on how well Perry would do today.

Now I am sure Perry could still do some wonderful things if he wanted to, but that is just it. In order for Perry to be able to, he has to want to. He has to show the desire, he would have to work extremely hard to be in the physical shape necessary to do the things Journey of 2005 are doing. And Perry has shown none of that desire.

The people who REALLY know what his singing abilities are the ones that have "worked with him", such as Jeff Golub & most recently David Pack with the song 'A Brand New Start".

Sure, they know that Perry can still sing a little here and a little there. Are you honestly trying to compare the couple of hours (MAX) work that Perry has done for Jeff and David to what it would take to write, record and tour with Journey? You can't do that.

Besides, we also all know that Perry only does something when he feels like it. He said him self that when he has something to say, he will. We know that his encounter with Jeff was almost accidental, but Perry heard something that moved him enough to want to contribute. To me, that is awesome. But it illustrates that Perry does not have that desire or motivation in general. I am not sure how the relationship with David came about, but I know that it started several years ago. We have heard about Steve and David working together for 3-4 ears now. The most recent info is that he was recording his portion od David's song just last year. But it appears that, either the original work was scrapped, or the date was incorrect. Either way, the work he did with David seems to stem from a friendship. And again, there was something there to move him enough to want to contribute. But you could total the amount of time Perry spent singing for BOTH of these projects and it would likely be under 3 hours. (I could be wrong, but I would hate to think it would take more than 3 hours to for Perry to do that. If it did, then he really does have problems...)

And of course, Steve Perry himself knows!

So why do you think he won't talk about it?

As for ME though, I've got the David Pack CD & I have listened to Perry sing, and HE sounds incredible!!!!


Lori

I agree that it was wonderful to hear that voice join in. There was a comfort, like running into an old friend. But, it is 1 minute of a studio vocal. The studio can make William Hung sound good. That is not enough to put all your faith in, not against the realities illustrated above. Age, health, desire...

[Red13JoePa]

Listen SourGrapesPerry. Don't you think Cain is in a better spot to speak to Perry's goings on than ANYBODY in here