Journey NJ PNC 8/26/05 Review

[jrnyman28]

You puppies may as well quit brown nosing for Andrew and let him speak for himself.

He has, but "you" don't seem to understand what he said at all! Instead, "you" have turned his post into something it was not!

My sister left because she lost respect for you Andrew so shall I also?

Which "sister" was that?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Come on Andrew!....

I resent your post. You should be ashamed.

You're sheep alright.

Speaking of resentment, I resent THIS.
I don't like you insinuating that we here are somehow anything less than brutally honest and forthcoming. We most definately are not sheep.
If something sucks then I will flat out say so (i've done so on several occasions). It's been my experience that so will every other Journey fan that I've encountered here.
We are fans, not brainwashed zealots or pom-pom toting sycophantic cheerleaders.
If we don't like something, then by god, we shall say so!

When was the last time you and your hag cabal said something, anything, even remotely negative about Perry, his career or his music?

Justifying Perry's absolutely reprobate actions no matter how untenable (firing two members, putting band members lives on hold twice, lying about his "injury", demanding Herbie's firing, making a crap album with ROR) is what makes someone a "sheep".

I've said it once, I'll say it again; none of you are actually objective melodic rock listeners but rather zombified zealot practioneers of blind idolatry.
Seek professional help at once.

[jrnyman28]

http://www.marinij.com/lifestyles/ci_2981067




Marin men's book on volunteering aimed at boomers
Paul Liberatore



GUY LAMPARD and Bob Rosenberg are Marin baby boomers who retired early and found themselves with an awful lot of time on their hands.
Lampard, 50, of Mill Valley, had done well enough in the field of financial marketing that he could afford to take a few years off. Rosenberg, 59, of Ross, was leaving his practice as an endontist (root canal specialist) after a long career.

It wasn't as if they weren't enjoying their leisure time, playing golf and fly fishing whenever they wanted. It's just that there was something missing in their lives.

They wanted to give something back, to help others. They were thinking that they could contribute through volunteer work. The problem was that they weren't at all sure how to go about it.

"I'm 59, but I'd never volunteered before," Rosenberg said.

"I didn't want to play golf all the time," Lampard added. "But what do I do?"

The two friends searched bookstore shelves for a guide to help them but came up empty. At the suggestion of a friend, Skip Henderson, executive director of the Angel Island Association, they decided to fill the void by writing a book of their own.

Two and a half years later, they have self-published "Giving from Your Heart: A Guide to Volunteering," with all proceeds going to Volunteer for Good, a nonprofit they established to help the volunteer effort.

First and foremost, "Giving from Your Heart" is aimed at their generation, the 77 million baby boomers approaching retirement age. The goal is to help them connect with a volunteer experience that's right for them.

"There's going to be this huge wave of people who are going to start retiring and will continue to do so for the next 15 years," Lampard said. "We coined the term 'active agers' to describe them. After retirement, there's so much more of life for people now. We're leading incredibly active lives."

"Giving from Your Heart" is full of practical information on getting started, evaluating your skills and interests and finding a volunteer position that's a good fit for you.

But, as the title suggests, this is more than merely a how-to book. It contains inspiring personal stories from people like rock star Steve Perry, who has volunteered with the Make-A-Wish Foundation, and Charlie Garfield, founder of the Shanti Project, which serves people with life-threatening illnesses.

Perry, former lead singer of the rock band Journey, talks about visiting terminally ill children whose dying request was to meet him.

"It changes your whole life," he said of the experience. "I'm never the same person I was when I got there."

Garfield compared finding the right volunteer commitment to "falling in love" and cautioned Lampard and Rosenberg not to lose sight of the human element that outweighs all else in volunteering.

"He told us, 'It's about the people,'" Rosenberg recalled. "'It's about their stories.'"

The authors felt this emotional power firsthand as they traveled to cities like Portland, Ore., and Phoenix to do interviews and gather information for the book.

"As we saw people volunteering, we saw them being transformed," Rosenberg said. "They were transformed by the act of giving."

After a career doing root canals on terrified patients, Rosenberg also found the process of talking to eager volunteer organizers a pleasantly unfamiliar undertaking.

"I used to be in my office all day long and nobody wanted to see me," he said with a laugh. "But doing this book people said they were happy to see me. I said, 'Are you kidding?'"

Lampard became a success in business dealing with money and investments. In the volunteer world, he found that the currency is more emotional and spiritual than monetary.

"It's almost like a religious thing," he said. "It leaves you with such a great feeling."

In his volunteer work, Lampard serves on the boards of the California Historical Foundation and California Historical Society. He has tutored disadvantaged children and coached Little League.

Rosenberg co-founded the Ross Valley Girls Softball League and is the volunteer coordinator of the Great Chefs of Marin benefit for the Lifehouse Agency, which assists developmentally disabled adults.

Their book has been endorsed by former Presidents George H.W. Bush, a volunteer through his Points of Light Foundation, and Jimmy Carter, whose volunteer work with Habitat for Humanity is well-known.

Carter calls the book "a valuable resource for anyone considering enriching their life through service to others." And Bush said, "This book presents the prospective volunteer with a clear picture of how to make that service count. É"


IF YOU GO

Guy Lampard and Bob Rosenberg talk about their book "Giving from Your Heart: A Guide to Volunteering" at 7 p.m. tomorrow at Book Passage in Corte Madera, 51 Tamale Vista. Phone 927-0960.

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This could have been a specific reference to Kenny. That was 1982/1983.
And Kenny wanted to meet Journey, not just Perry.

BUT, I do not know that he is talking about Kenny. Perry certainly could still be involved with the Make a Wish Foundation.

We DO know, however, that Journey is STILL actively involved with charities. The motorcycle they are raffling off this year is in support of the TJ Martle Foundation. Their first show of 2005 was in support of a Law Enfocement Teen program. The Denver Show was a benefit for Eric Mullins High School. Jon makes Charity Golf Tournement appearances including one recently. So that is just THIS year. Journey has continued their charitable activities with little fanfare.

I HOPE Perry is doing the same.

[NealIsGod]

My sister left because she lost respect for you Andrew so shall I also?

Should we answer this one for ya, Andrew?

[NealIsGod]

BUT, I do not know that he is talking about Kenny. Perry certainly could still be involved with the Make a Wish Foundation.

I hope he is.

Mr. Perry, my doctor told me I was dying. He only gives me 480 months. My wish is for you to make a new solo album...

[jrnyman28]

Mr. Perry, my doctor told me I was dying. He only gives me 480 months. My wish is for you to make a new solo album...

That gives him 479 months to get it done...just enough time.

[Red13JoePa]

So the spin doctors are now calling Pack's wanting to holdback Perry's pay for inferior and too little work "volunteerism?"

[Monker]

This could have been a specific reference to Kenny. That was 1982/1983.
And Kenny wanted to meet Journey, not just Perry.

BUT, I do not know that he is talking about Kenny. Perry certainly could still be involved with the Make a Wish Foundation.

EXACTLY what I thought too...But, the above does say


Perry, former lead singer of the rock band Journey, talks about visiting terminally ill children whose dying request was to meet him.

"It changes your whole life," he said of the experience. "I'm never the same person I was when I got there."

It sounds plural...But, it's hard to REALLY know. I doubt many 'kids' even know who he is nowadays.

[NealIsGod]

This could have been a specific reference to Kenny. That was 1982/1983.
And Kenny wanted to meet Journey, not just Perry.

BUT, I do not know that he is talking about Kenny. Perry certainly could still be involved with the Make a Wish Foundation.

EXACTLY what I thought too...But, the above does say


Perry, former lead singer of the rock band Journey, talks about visiting terminally ill children whose dying request was to meet him.

"It changes your whole life," he said of the experience. "I'm never the same person I was when I got there."

It sounds plural...But, it's hard to REALLY know. I doubt many 'kids' even know who he is nowadays.

Yeah, the last time a terminally ill child wanted to meet Perry was probably 1989. Can't be anytime in the last 10 years. And it's very nice he did this, but it's not exactly building houses for Habitat for Humanity. Not much effort involved...

[yak]

PS- Yak, talked to a friend who works SPAC..Att- 12, 956 Naw, Journey is sliding down the mountain...!!

Thanks Dean, still waiting for a review to come out. I KNEW it had to be big.....The fans were everywhere, enjoying every moment, even the beginning early stuff! As for "sliding down the mountain" the Perrylonlies are experiencing WISHFUL THINKING.....


I repeat what I said earlier, just in case YOU missed it, Hottsie!.............

I was at SPAC last night (will post my thoughts soon) and as Deano just said 12,000 to 14,000 were there...(Were you there Deano?)

The place was filled to the rafters, the lawn was full, there were people of ALL ages, including young teenagers, and Steve Augeri owned the stage! Nobody was looking for Perry, they were just reacting to the songs, AND to Steve on stage. He interacted with the audience, and held his own. The concert was AWESOME!

Those "big" shoes have been filled.......a new and better Journey is back!

[NealIsGod]

Those "big" shoes have been filled.......a new and better Journey is back!

HA! Can't wait for comments from the peanut gallery on THAT one!

[yak]

You sound like a nut to me. Still waiting for you to lay out some kind of coherent, factual argument as to why Andrew's post was negative.

She IS a nut.....or should I say she is "many" nuts, if you get what I allude to. (How many alters DO you have, Hottsie?)

Let me get this straight....Is Perry taking credit for visiting sick kids in the hospital? The ones I heard about (from a fan club newsletter at the time), said the band as a whole was requested.....NOT just Perry!

Spin...Spin...Spin...Do you honestly think nobody will catch you? Or is your inane agenda to get this concert review thread off kilter once again?

There's a catastrophe going on in the South, and all your twisted asses can think of is how to throw a thread off couse?

[NealIsGod]

Let me get this straight....Is Perry taking credit for visiting sick kids in the hospital? The ones I heard about (from a fan club newsletter at the time), said the band as a whole was requested.....NOT just Perry!

yak, didn't you know that Perry is responsible for EVERYTHING Journey did, even before he was in the group. Perry is the sun of the Journey universe...

[Red13JoePa]

12 k +, Deano?
Jesus, these guys are putting up huge numbers this summer. What a tour and what an album.

[Rockindeano]

You puppies may as well quit brown nosing for Andrew and let him speak for himself. He can kick me out if he chooses but he's wrong!

My sister left because she lost respect for you Andrew so shall I also?

Hey dude, stop your bullshit. I have known for a month that your "sister" is a ghost...why is it she posts all month long in the name of Soledad, and you don't? You are so full of crap your breath stinks. By the way, Andrew I am guessing will respond..He's sleeping you stupid twit...He lives across the globe!

THIS is IT!! I love this! ARMEGEDON for someone!

To use a water reference, due to the Gulf Coast getting it's ass kicked, The Levee is breaking, and the Heads are finally snapping like twigs! Awesome. I knew I and the normal peeps would end up victorious!

Hey dudes(Loons), go eat Turtle shit, and balloon up to 300 bills....!!

My sister left because she lost respect for you Andrew so shall I also?


YES

PS..don't any of you choads work??? Jesus!

[Andrew]

You puppies may as well quit brown nosing for Andrew and let him speak for himself. He can kick me out if he chooses but he's wrong!

My sister left because she lost respect for you Andrew so shall I also?

Just logged on for the day and read the responses.

Very much as I anticipated. Sadly this backs up my argument 100%

Some folks cannot accept any negative slant towards their God and should someone dare to say something that isn't a kiss-ass compliment, then they must be driven by the devil.

It is a symptom of blind fan following devotion that several artists I deal with have.
There is a set element that cannot bare to have their idol questioned - even when in some cases their decisions should be questioned.

Now, in the case of Perry - his life is to lead as he wishes. I have ALWAYS supported him and don't have to suck up to prove that.
Good luck to him and he will always remain a personal favourite for me. Another thing I don't have to reiterate every time I post in case someone forgets that fact (seems some do).

BUT - I retain the power of free speech to voice concerns when I feel they are fair concerns.
I personally wish for his return to active singing.

SORRY IF THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS PERRYHEADS!!!

Are you Perry supporters so blind in your devotion that you would not dare to ask publicly for him to return to what he does best?

As for being ashamed of my comments - give me a break! All I said was that he should get back to making US (you and me) fans happy and make some music!!!

If that offends you, then practically every possible other statement that will ever be posted here will also offend.

I'm not going to ban anyone for disagreeing with me - that would be sad and pathetic.
Post and flame away if you think I am out of line...but I'll hold on to my desire for Perry to return to music.

[Andrew]

PS....forgot to mention...I have at times directed critisism at the current Journey line-up.
Nothing major - but neither was my Perry comment - far from it.

I got no negative feedback from those actions, not from fans, nor management, nor the band.

But one small comment to suggest Perry come back to music and the roth of Perryheads is upon me!

[heardonthestreet]

Pity Steve would rather live the life of a hermit these days than actually get out there and do something.

Man he must be seriously bored...

Here's hoping for a new studio album one day.

My argument with you, Andrew was for your first two statements. If you don't understand, just forget it.

[Andrew]

My argument with you, Andrew was for your first two statements. If you don't understand, just forget it.

I understand your point....and I get it - I can read English quite well.

And I don't mean to be rude or abrasive...my job here is to try and moderate the forum, not add to the tension.

However, it was a tongue in cheek statement. I'm sure he is a busy man in his own right...but his existance (as far as old fans would be able to tell) is hermit like.

He is a very private individual and I respect his right to be that way.

All I am saying is that is a real shame for some many of us fans out here that used to count on his "work" to make our lives just that little bit better.

[jrnyman28]

Pity Steve would rather live the life of a hermit these days than actually get out there and do something.

But it IS A PITY!!

Man he must be seriously bored...

Since his life was music, and he is no longer actively making music, Perry could well be bored!

Here's hoping for a new studio album one day.

Here, here. A new Perry Solo CD would be fantastic.

My argument with you, Andrew was for your first two statements. If you don't understand, just forget it.

You don't seem to be listening to what Andrew is saying. But that is nothing new...

[Rockindeano]

Andrew, I for one Have a beef with you.. Dude, you need to come clean and come correct. I know from reading your posts for the last 5 years you supported Perry....and you get called out like this? They are beggin for an ass kickin!!! give it to em!!

[heardonthestreet]

Nosy little brown nose as usual, Dave. WAS I TALKING TO YOU? Mind your own damn business. This is between Andrew and me.

I'll take your back pedaling as an apology to us Perryheads, Andrew.

[heardonthestreet]

Oh Dean, stop your fussing. Go attack a few windmills.

[Andrew]

Oh Dean, stop your fussing. Go attack a few windmills.

Quit dishing it out at others please. Everyone needs to think twice before posting. PLEASE.

[Rockindeano]

Oh Dean, stop your fussing. Go attack a few windmills.

Ok, I will, if you promise to go back to grazing

THAT, is retaliation

[heardonthestreet]

I hear ya, Andrew, now that we understand each other.

[yak]

PS..don't any of you choads work???

Nooooo....they sit around ALL day...apparently devouring Krispy Kremes!

[jrnyman28]

Nosy little brown nose as usual, Dave.

I am not nosy, this is a PUBLIC forum!
And how is it brown nosing twhen I am trying to HELP you understand where Andrew is coming from. See, I KNOW where he is coming from because he has been very clear. However, since you Can't Understand Normal Thinking, I am attempting to explain it differently FOR YOUR BENEFIT!

WAS I TALKING TO YOU? Mind your own damn business. This is between Andrew and me.

If you don't want my input, TAKE IT TO PM!! How difficult is this??

I'll take your back pedaling as an apology to us Perryheads, Andrew.

BWA_HA_HA!! That is a good one! He tries, yet again, to politely explain himself. And since you CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT, you divert to another tactic. I got news for you, Andrew is smart enough to NOT TAKE YOUR BAIT!

[NealIsGod]

Pity Steve would rather live the life of a hermit these days than actually get out there and do something.

Man he must be seriously bored...

Here's hoping for a new studio album one day.

My argument with you, Andrew was for your first two statements. If you don't understand, just forget it.

This makes me laugh. She says "If you don't understand, forget it." So you will not tell us specifically what bothers you about these innocuous statements from Andrew. I suspect it is because you are unable to express it because it does not bother you. You are simply trying to "take the piss".

And don't attack Dave. He CONTRIBUTES to this board EVERY DAY. You contribute nothing but useless negativity, and get off on that. You still haven't even told us specifically WTF Perry is doing these days that is so beneficial to makind! PLEASE tell us if you know. Stop being so vague.

[Red13JoePa]

NIG, lay off the guy. He wasn't talking to you. He was talking at ANDREW only in this public forum, as J28 was reminded.











Jackass.