For Whatever it's worth

[jrnyman28]

Yes, I remember that well. And it is a reflection of my comment that it doesn't really matter anyway because nothing will change. But I stick by my comment that I thought Deano would go too far, he would get too personal with his words, they DID become attacks on the person instead of the point. I only asked him (or told him) that he needed to see HIS PART in all this. Basically, his exscuse was 'She started it' or 'I am only responding', but he always "one-upped" it. And from there it would get ugly. I didn't like it, and I know I am not alone. I understand his feelings, I am not a moderator who can decide HOW someone posts...but anytime he was criticisized Deano would say something like 'I guess it's all my fault'. That is like playing the victim instead of owning up to his role.

As for 'the others', I feel exactly the same way. ProPerry and PF have both made a comment that created a desird reaction, only to turn around and play the victim when called on it by Andrew or other posters. Everyone here knows exactly what s/he is doing.

[yak]

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I weer a loon, I would think twice before posting if I knew he was lying in wait!

You're wrong, NIG, only because, with the exception of Lori, who is simply a twit, the rest...(and number one in this is HOTS/who else?/who else?/ well you get the picture), are here for one sole purpose....To rile up anybody and everybody they can. They can't take it, or maybe they are just quite delusion, that the band Journey has moved on. So they created an agenda......

Their main mission in life...and I do mean MAIN mission...is to make sure Perry knows they are standing up for him, and fighting his fight. If he doesn't come here himself, perhaps somebody watching the boards will let him know of their undying love. What they refuse to admit to themselves, because it would be too painful, is that Perry is embarrassed by all this foolish attention. That Perry doesn't want, and perhaps never wanted, to be a part of Journey.

The problem they create here...and they do it on purpose, is to create infighting, so it will appear that the Journey fans don't even get along with other. Then they skip happily back to their kitchens and maybe make dinner, feeling that they have accomplished their "duty" for the day.

HOTS, aka Fill in The Blank, revels in being many people and lives to incite whatever she can. This has been evidenced time and again by her snide little comments about nothing in particular when the board is doing fine on its own. She even taunts Andrew, because he has this great Journey site, and it must be unbearable for her to realize her Stevie isn't part of it, and why he puts up with her shit I'll never know.

I do know this...I'm sick and tired of them and their sickass agenda and I'll be damned if they ever try to chase me off this board......and I can only hope that others here feel the same.

Somebody said "They've won." No they haven't...Won what? Doing their duty for their day? Is Perry back in the saddle? No......Will he ever be? NO.......So, you see, they've won nothing.

Like I said before, There is a major catastrophe in the South, and all Ms HOTS can do, is come here and make trouble. What a human being she is, huh?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Yak says:

Their main mission in life...and I do mean MAIN mission...is to make sure Perry knows they are standing up for him, and fighting his fight. If he doesn't come here himself, perhaps somebody watching the boards will let him know of their undying love. What they refuse to admit to themselves, because it would be too painful, is that Perry is embarrassed by all this foolish attention. That Perry doesn't want, and perhaps never wanted, to be a part of Journey.

I don't really want to go and read the whole history of Journey and all the posts, the Styx forum is keeping me busy - LOL

Anyway, why would anyone HAVE to stand up for Steve Perry? I don't see a ton of articles where any of his former band mates are bashing him. Are there articles or interviews? My impression is/was that the door is still open for Steve Perry to return or perform with Journey. Is that true? Don't you think if Steve P. wanted to return and perform with Journey, he would've made appearance that night after appearing at the Hollywood Walk of Fame? He was invited, but declined. That door was open.

I'm sure Steve Perry has had a LOT of offers to perform or show up at many places with a number of musicians over the years and even recently. I bet he has been offered a lot of money too. Doors are always open for him and it seems will always be.

I was glad to see that he did appear at the HWOF and was also involved with the movie "Monster" and showing up around town.

I'm sure Steve P. appreciates all the attention that he receives from message boards, forums and mail. I'm sure he's probably thinking that these people have better things to do with their lives instead of worrying about him - LOL Just a thought and only my opinion

If I need to re-read any thread, just point me in the direction

[Soledad?]

Oh boo hoo. The asshole left.

Let's cry a flood of tears.

He takes Journey WAAAAAAAAY too seriously, as do most of you.

[The_Noble_Cause]

He takes Journey WAAAAAAAAY too seriously, as do most of you.

Most of us here are just average people who like the music and are willing to defend it if need be.
Those who take Journey entiriely too seriously are those like yourself, who make it their job to bash the band because they are still smarting from Perry's self-imposed musical exile.
If you find yourself incapable of moving on from something that occurred nearly 12 years, that's when you know you're taking something waaay too seriously.
Perry's gone. Time to let it go.
No need to take your unmitigatable anguish out on Augeri, Neal, or the scores of fans who choose to follow them today.

[yak]

? My impression is/was that the door is still open for Steve Perry to return or perform with Journey. Is that true? Don't you think if Steve P. wanted to return and perform with Journey, he would've made appearance that night after appearing at the Hollywood Walk of Fame? He was invited, but declined. That door was open.

Yes he has a standing invitation to come and sit in for a song or two, but he won't do it, likely because he can't control the situation.

At the SPAC concert last weekend, I mentioned to a couple of people that Perry has said invitation, and there reaction was one of incredulity. In other words, they were shocked that he's been invited and has declined.

[NealIsGod]

Anyway, why would anyone HAVE to stand up for Steve Perry? I don't see a ton of articles where any of his former band mates are bashing him.

Because Perry-onlies believe there should be no Journey without him, even though there was one before him. And they bash the current lineup, even though they haven't even seen them live or even have a CD.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

NeilIsGod says:

Because Perry-onlies believe there should be no Journey without him, even though there was one before him. And they bash the current lineup, even though they haven't even seen them live or even have a CD.

Yikes, he's not even a founding member.

It was HIS decision to leave and HIS decision if he would like to return or perform with them.

Well I like all the versions of Journey

[NealIsGod]

Well I like all the versions of Journey

That's because you are normal!

[SuiteMadameBlue]

NealIsGod says:

That's because you are normal!

LOL, you're TOO funny!! I'm sure Monker will disagree with you

[OpeningAct]

I respect you, and I think most people who post here do, but HOTS has insulted you before about being "too nice". I sense disrespect from her toward you. JMHO.

Thank you, but it does not matter to me if HOTS 'respects' me. I will never meet her in person and I do not call her a friend. However, if I did meet her in person, then I might care about respect.

True. I only care about what a handful in here think of me, and you are included, Dave.

That's good NiG because I think you add nothing to this forum.......

[OpeningAct]

I think we all agree that Deano will be back...
He's a good guy IMO and his posts DO crack me up...

[Andrew]

Soledad? - consider this a warning.

As for Deano leaving - that's his choice - but his aggression and language offended many - as I can prove via e-mails and PMs recieved.

But he alone is not the cause of disunity here and I try my best to moderate between factions.

I do not want Deno to return to be the whip - it is my job to keep things under control. You lot make it near impossible sometimes, but it is my job and I'll try my best to keep things moving along.

[jrnyman28]

Yikes, he's not even a founding member.

But he is the only one that matters in their eyes.

It was HIS decision to leave and HIS decision if he would like to return or perform with them.

They don't believe it was HIS decision. They blame NEal and Jon for not waiting the rest of their lives for Perry to return. They feel that, if Neal and Jon really needed to do something without Perry, they should have named it something else.

Well I like all the versions of Journey

I like NiG's answer...

[Red13JoePa]

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
"Well I like all the versions of Journey
"


What a simple, but GREAT statement. That's most of us here.

[NoMoreTails]

They don't believe it was HIS decision. They blame NEal and Jon for not waiting the rest of their lives for Perry to return. They feel that, if Neal and Jon really needed to do something without Perry, they should have named it something else.

Funny they have a bigger problem with Journey continuing without Perry than Perry does. Not that he was thrilled but he did agreed to it.
Glad they didn't wait, Journey wasted too many years of their careers waiting for him.

[jrnyman28]

Funny they have a bigger problem with Journey continuing without Perry than Perry does. Not that he was thrilled but he did agreed to it.
Glad they didn't wait, Journey wasted too many years of their careers waiting for him.

Agreed!