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Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:39 am

amaron wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Too bad Perry's management told Andrew that he was not being granted an interview SPECIFICALLY because he supports the current lineup.

Please tell me you're kidding and this isn't true.



100% correct. Told over the phone while talking to Mr. Perry's manager.
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Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:40 am

PROPERRY wrote:I DON'T believe for one second that Perry's managment turns Andrew down for him supporting the current line up, it is the WAY this board is so anti Perry that is most likely the problem.

Lori



Hi Lori,
It doesn't really bother me either way if you believe this or not. But that is indeed what I was told.
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Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:43 am

NEW SANITY SAVING POLICY.

I will no longer reply to any Perry related question from Perryheads unless it is actually pertaining to something new, fresh or unrelated to previous attempts to disrupt this board.

I can no longer use up valuable time trying to argue reason.

If anyone has a genuine, sesnsiblke question or post, I'd be glad to address it.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:54 am

But Andrew, I love it when you get involved.

I know that we are all Perry fans. How can we be Journey fans and not be?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:56 am

heardonthestreet wrote:But Andrew, I love it when you get involved.

I know that we are all Perry fans. How can we be Journey fans and not be?



It's time for you to go away.

The moderator/financier of this website has repeatedly tried to be nice to u guys but enough's enough.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:04 pm

Andrew wrote:NEW SANITY SAVING POLICY.

I will no longer reply to any Perry related question from Perryheads unless it is actually pertaining to something new, fresh or unrelated to previous attempts to disrupt this board.

I can no longer use up valuable time trying to argue reason.

If anyone has a genuine, sesnsiblke question or post, I'd be glad to address it.


Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby jrnyman28 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:20 pm

perryfaithful wrote:Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!


There is a big difference between a Perryhead (you, Lori. Hots, ohSherrie) and a Perry fan (Andrew and the rest of us).
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:32 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!


There is a big difference between a Perryhead (you, Lori. Hots, ohSherrie) and a Perry fan (Andrew and the rest of us).


Bingo!
Dave's got it, just like I've always maintained...
None of these people are objective melodic rock listeners, but rather zombified zealot practioneers of blind idolatry.
Or in layman's terms, LOONS!
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Postby Andrew » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:38 pm

perryfaithful wrote:
Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!


I cannot continue explain this over and over again.

If you don't get it - nothing I ever say will help you out.
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Postby Monker » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:34 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:monker is just being petulant. I think that he is, most of the time, trying to goad Perry into proving how wrong, he, monker is, thinking that Perry just might be reading these posts


I doubt VERY much that Perry reads these posts. I think at one time Lora probably did and may have passed this and that along to Perry...but not specificaly about me. But, I doubt THAT even happens any longer.

You can tell that monker feels that Perry is just the greatest.


I think at one time he was...But, nowadays he is nothing. He can't sing without sounding like Rod Stewart, he can't tour, he will never be with Journey again, and is now reduced to doing guest 'spots' on other people's music or working on old tapes from 25yrs ago - when he actually sung Journey songs in the way they were meant to be sung.

His disappointment in Perry not making Journey his complete life makes him lash out and say things that we all know, he does not mean.


LOL...even before this forum, or any other internet forum existed, I was on Prodigy/GEnie/AOL arguing with people like you that Perry was not the ONLY thing in Journey that mattered, that he destroyed Journey with ROR, and he was better off solo and Journey was better off without him.

He didn't need to make Journey his "complete life" - but Journey fans don't need to make Journey nothing but Steve Perry.

If Perry wanted to grant monker an interview, monker would think that he had died and gone to heaven.


I have absolutely no desire to talk to the guy. Even if he asked me to interview him, I wouldn't want to give him the attention.

In fact, when he did his last "send me the questions..." interview, I sent in a comment (not a question, cuz I didn't expect an answer) thanking him for saying at the WOF ceremony, "I really want to thank ALL the fans all over the world that made the Hollywood Walk of Fame Star possible.......... It really belongs to you." Because he thanked ALL Journey fans, not just Perry fans, or fans of 'classic' Journey - ALL Journey fans....and that it was good to know that he felt the 'star' was for ALL of us, not one faction over another.

I bet that monker sings Perry's solo music in the shower and has a great picture of Perry, nailed to his ceiling, in his den.Didn't you name on of your children Stephen, monker?


Hmm, don't have a den. My computer is in the basement, by my home theater. The pics I have are framed posters of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, a painting from a guy I used to work with...soon to be joined by a Hitchhiker's Guide pic. I'll be getting some others, but none will be of Journey or Steve Perry.

Actualy, I named one of my kids Jonathan....not that he's named after Jonathan Cain.
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Postby Monker » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:38 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:[
Once again - for those mentally imapred that can't understand -

WE ARE ALL PERRY FANS.



NO WE"RE NOT!
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Postby Monker » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:42 pm

PROPERRY wrote:Exactly Perryfaithful! You hit the nail right on the head!

I DON'T believe for one second that Perry's managment turns Andrew down for him supporting the current line up, it is the WAY this board is so anti Perry that is most likely the problem.

Lori


He was turned down for interviews before this forum even existed...

And, even if what you say is true....It's sad that Perry can't face the feelings of ALL Journey fans and not just the yes-women. I guess being surrounded by yes-women is OK. Well, at least for a guy it is.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:21 pm

Andrew wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!


I cannot continue explain this over and over again.

If you don't get it - nothing I ever say will help you out.


Perhaps I am not being clear! You have stated that you would like to interview Steve Perry and continue to try every year. My point? If that is true, from a marketing standpoint, I would think you would want a message forum for Journey that treats ALL fans with respect TO INCLUDE those who prefer the Steve Perry years. Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS. Sadly it is not just allowing others to do it, YOU ARE now doing it. This makes no sense to me...JMHO, sorry!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:47 pm

perryfaithful wrote:
Andrew wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
Perryheads?? But you would like an interview?? Help me here!


I cannot continue explain this over and over again.

If you don't get it - nothing I ever say will help you out.


Perhaps I am not being clear! You have stated that you would like to interview Steve Perry and continue to try every year. My point? If that is true, from a marketing standpoint, I would think you would want a message forum for Journey that treats ALL fans with respect TO INCLUDE those who prefer the Steve Perry years. Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS. Sadly it is not just allowing others to do it, YOU ARE now doing it. This makes no sense to me...JMHO, sorry!


I think I speak for everyone here when I say: do shut the fuck up.
Everyone here knows your tedious game by now.
The jig is up.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:54 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I think I speak for everyone here when I say: do shut the fuck up.
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Nice place
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Postby NoMoreTails » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:05 pm

Monker wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:[
Once again - for those mentally imapred that can't understand -

WE ARE ALL PERRY FANS.



NO WE"RE NOT!


I'll second that.
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Bitter people

Postby Eric » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:11 pm

I guess the terrific attended tour and the new album have brought the bitter Perry-onlies out of their caves to try and spread anger, resentment and general depression on the world of Journey.

This really stinks, because we were really have a nice summer on here.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 pm

perryfaithful wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:I think I speak for everyone here when I say: do shut the fuck up.
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Nice place


It is until you and your hag coterie comes along designedly to rock the boat.
You are a professional shit stirrer.
I know it, Andrew knows it, and most of all, you know it too.
You guys come here under the pretext of "celebrating Steve Perry" yet all you do is subvert conversation about the new lineup.
Go away and stay away.
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Postby sadie65 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:23 pm

Just a question. Wouldn't you all be better served by not answering the ones who continue to throw down the bait? No audience, usually the act goes away. Just a thought.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:55 pm

perryfaithful wrote: you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS.


Funny. Me and Dave are both Perry fans and we have never been deemed a "Perryhead" or a "Perryloon" or anything derogatory.
Persons like yourself are because u belong to an exclusive category all ur own.
Displaying deranged, obsessive and frankly disturbing tendencies (or as Andrew put it)...

Andrew wrote: "Some folks cannot accept any negative slant towards their God and should someone dare to say something that isn't a kiss-ass compliment, then they must be driven by the devil.

It is a symptom of blind fan following devotion that several artists I deal with have."
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READ THE WARNING SIGNS ON THE WALL.
SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP AT ONCE!

YOU'RE A 'LOON!!!!!
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Postby Monker » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:06 am

Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS.


That term is NOT a 'bash'. It was invented by Perry fans to describe Perry fans. I remember posts on the old digest from Karen "Perryhead" describing her thoughts (and dreams) about Perry and a bunch of other Perry fans wanting to know if they can join the club and be Perryhead's too.

You guys invented the term and adopted it...and it was LONG before Augeri or even TBF happened.
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Postby Eric » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:14 am

sadie65 wrote:Just a question. Wouldn't you all be better served by not answering the ones who continue to throw down the bait? No audience, usually the act goes away. Just a thought.


You are correct...but I personally find it impossible not to take the bait.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:46 am

perryfaithful wrote:I would think you would want a message forum for Journey that treats ALL fans with respect TO INCLUDE those who prefer the Steve Perry years.


When you start being respectfl to JOURNEY...

perryfaithful wrote:Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....


Where do you see Perry-bashing? Give me specific examples of "bashing"!

perryfaithful wrote:and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS.


First, that has nothing to do with respecting Perry.
Second, I have asked MANY times for another term to describe "you". That refers to the fans of Journey who were only fans because of Perry, and have ceased to be Journey fans solely because Perry is no longer in the band. And those fans feel the need to continually tear down Journey and it's fans simply because they continue to support Journey.
Now, can you give me a term to describe you?
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Postby NealIsGod » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:54 am

First they bitch about PerryLOONS, now PerryHEADS. How about Perryphiles? Is that satisfactory?
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:58 am

They used to like "Perry-Troopers"...
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Postby perryfaithful » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:05 am

Monker wrote:
Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS.


That term is NOT a 'bash'. It was invented by Perry fans to describe Perry fans. I remember posts on the old digest from Karen "Perryhead" describing her thoughts (and dreams) about Perry and a bunch of other Perry fans wanting to know if they can join the club and be Perryhead's too.

You guys invented the term and adopted it...and it was LONG before Augeri or even TBF happened.


I know nothing of that Monker......but if so, it is not being used in the same way here. I would like to be talked to as an individual (you guys?) and not thrown into some category, thank you! I thought many on this board agreed this would resolve some of the tension here some time ago and many followed thru, at least for awhile.

I may have Perry in my nic and admit I am happier with the Perry years of Journey, but I am not a Perry fanatical. Journey is more than Steve Perry to me and I have attended Post Perry concerts. If i choose to criticize todays Journey, THEY DESERVE IT and it has nothing to do with Steve Perry! Thanks

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Postby Monker » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:06 am

perryfaithful wrote:
Monker wrote:
Instead you allow bashing of Perry.....and that includes calling his fans PERRYHEADS.


That term is NOT a 'bash'. It was invented by Perry fans to describe Perry fans. I remember posts on the old digest from Karen "Perryhead" describing her thoughts (and dreams) about Perry and a bunch of other Perry fans wanting to know if they can join the club and be Perryhead's too.

You guys invented the term and adopted it...and it was LONG before Augeri or even TBF happened.


I know nothing of that Monker......but if so, it is not being used in the same way here. I would like to be talked to as an individual (you guys?) and not thrown into some category, thank you! I thought many on this board agreed this would resolve some of the tension here some time ago and many followed thru, at least for awhile.

I may have Perry in my nic and admit I am happier with the Perry years of Journey, but I am not a Perry fanatical. Journey is more than Steve Perry to me and I have attended Post Perry concerts. If i choose to criticize todays Journey, THEY DESERVE IT and it has nothing to do with Steve Perry! Thanks


Well, I wrote this a while ago. I think it still applies today:

PerryHead vs. PerryHater
The term "Perryhead" came about years ago on the old Journey mailing list. Karen Perryhead used the term to describe herself because she often had "Perry on the mind". Others leaped on the idea with a "I want to be a Perryhead too! What do I need to do?". It quickly became a term Perry fans used to describe themselves and each other. It was viewed in a similar way Jimmy Buffet fans may view the term "Parrothead". It was a way to identify themselves to each other and other fans.

Then came Journey's Trial By Fire years and the inevitable backlash against Steve Perry and his fans. The term was used against Perry fans in a negative way. It was not so much a term of endearment any longer but more of a way to label and point out that certain people cared more about Steve Perry then Journey. I will admit that I did plenty of pointing myself.

Nowadays the term is still used by some to point out what they consider "Perry only" fans...especially those who have an expressed dislike for Journey. But, some Perry fans seem to be using the term to describe themselves and others in the way it was originally intended. I do not know when the last time was that I called someone a Perryhead. I have very little use for that term now...I have not even been calling anybody a Perryhead even if they call themself a Perryhead.

I guess "Perryhater" came about as a sort of backlash against those who were throwing about the "Perryhead" term so often during the time of TBF. It was, and is, used as a label for those who speak negatively about Steve Perry. It has nothing to do with how a person may feel about Perry...but that they do not have many nice things to say about him.

Needless to say that I was labeled a "Perryhater" long ago. I used to rebel against it and say that I did not 'hate' Perry at all. Which is the truth, I don't. But, I am tired of the fight and just accept the fact that I am going to get that label no matter what I say or do.

Ironically, over the past few years, as Steve Augeri has earned his share of fans, I have seen people who I know have described themselves as Perryheads be labeled as Perryhaters because they express their enjoyment of the current version of Journey and argue against those who speak so negatively about the band and the new members. It's humorous to see someone who is not so familiar with who is a fan of who come out and accuse a Perryhead as being a Perryhater.

So, in my opinion, these two terms have become blurred and a bit meaningless in todays world of Journey and Perry fandom. People should be allowed to describe their fandom however they want.

I am a Journey fan. I am a fan of the music before Perry joined, while he was there, and I have remained a fan since he was replaced. I may like some Journey's music more then others and I may choose to express those opinions from time to time. I am not much of a fan of Perry's music outside of Journey. That is the way I have been for a very long time and I doubt it will ever change.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:32 am

perryfaithful wrote:I would like to be talked to as an individual (you guys?) and not thrown into some category, thank you!


Look around.
You all speak the same, your sns are all eerily the same.
You're like one giant collective entity...like the borg.

perryfaithful wrote:I may have Perry in my nic and admit I am happier with the Perry years of Journey, but I am not a Perry fanatical.


Yes, you are. The fact that you can't even accept the most milquetoast of criticism from this site's moderator proves that.
You're impervious to reason or common sense.
In a word, a brainwashed zealot.

perryfaithful wrote: If i choose to criticize todays Journey, THEY DESERVE IT and it has nothing to do with Steve Perry! Thanks


Bullshit! I posted an article on the new album and within seconds you started with your typical inflamatory garbage. Stop lying.
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Re: Bitter people

Postby yak » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:54 am

Eric wrote:I guess the terrific attended tour and the new album have brought the bitter Perry-onlies out of their caves to try and spread anger, resentment and general depression on the world of Journey.

This really stinks, because we were really have a nice summer on here.



Amen Eric, but that's all the bitter ones have left...a "stinky" agenda.
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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:29 am

Steve Augeri is a horrible singer and showman. The current Journey fans are clinging onto a band that has nothing to offer except more tired-face, uneventful music whether on CD or in concert.

Neal Schon may have been in the band from its inception; however, Journey was only considered a popular and successful band when Steve Perry was their lead singer. The current Journey band is one of the biggest jokes out there according to most rock critics.

Enjoy Journey's Generations and please buy the CD since you will not hear their music on any of the major radio stations in the U.S.A.

Does anyone know of Steve Augeri is still eligible for the 25% Gap store discount?

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