Anybody notice this?

[NealIsGod]

I understand and respect the talents of Jon Cain and Neal Schon. I have never considered them "back up" musicians. I was open enough to the change to support several shows with the new line up. I prefer the line up of Steve Perry, Jon Cain and Neal Schon![/color]

I am sure we ALL prefer the lineup of Schon/Cain/Perry circa 1981-1985. But that era is gone. The short-lived 1996 version of this lineup proved that the magic is gone to me and millions of other Journey fans, as well as to the trio themselves. Accept it and move on!

[yandtguy]

Actually, I prefer the line-up of Rolie, Schon, Dunbar, Perry and Valory because they made my favorite Journey album, Infinity. As Steve Smith and Ansley Dunbar are comparable in my mind, I would even be OK with Smith, but you can keep Jon Cain.

Greg

[NealIsGod]

True, didn't mean to dismiss the Rolie era. I meant to only compare the two eras of those three. Sorry I wasn't more clear.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I was open enough to the change to support several shows with the new line up.

Then all ur rheotic on being "faithful to Perry" and "still waiting for him" is empty and disingenuine to the max. Someone truly "Perryfaithful" wouldn't have even entertained the notion of someone singing songs Perry originally sang, let alone shell out hard-earned money to actually go see him.
You're undying loyalty and devotion is a sham.

[perryfaithful]

Accept it and move on!

Sorry NIG, but I do not have to accept anything or move anywhere!?! I respect your passion, not telling you what to do. Why do you feel a need to push yourself on others. Just enjoy

I do not happen to fall into the category that you spoke of and I do not think I am unusual.....perhaps for those who will dare speak here, but not unusual in my travels among Journey fans. That's all

[NealIsGod]

Then all ur rheotic on being "faithful to Perry" and "still waiting for him" is empty and disingenuine to the max. Someone truly "Perryfaithful" wouldn't have even entertained the notion of someone singing songs Perry originally sang, let alone shell out hard-earned money to actually go see him.
You're undying loyalty and devotion is a sham.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh, PF?!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Sorry NIG, but I do not have to accept anything or move anywhere!?!

Ok, then at the very least start posting something that is actually reflective of your purported endearment for the Perry-Cain-Schon era.
With the exception of sngrck (who, to be fair, is actually a reformed PerryLoon) you girlies post absolutely nothing of merit whatsoever.

Contend to love Perry more than any other singer out there?
-Prove it.
Start a post about the man and his inimitable talents for once!

[NealIsGod]

Start a post about the man and his inimitable talents for once!

Or someone tell us about Perry's wonderful volunteer work. Still waiting for that info, if it even exists.

[ohsherrie]

Ok, then at the very least start posting something that is actually reflective of your purported endearment for the Perry-Cain-Schon era.
With the exception of sngrck (who, to be fair, is actually a reformed PerryLoon) you girlies post absolutely nothing of merit whatsoever.

Contend to love Perry more than any other singer out there?
-Prove it.
Start a post about the man and his inimitable talents for once!

To be fair, TNC, there have been threads started along those lines. They don't get very far before someone feels compelled to show their support for Augeri, then they turn into Perry vs Augeri pissing matches. Just like the thread about TBF. It was immediately swamped with ads for Generations. It's almost impossible to have an objective, mature discussion when the comparisons are inevitable and volitile.

[The_Noble_Cause]

To be fair, TNC, there have been threads started along those lines.

You don't have to tell me that. I have created threads specifically concering the Perry years and have received very little (if any) replies.
It just shows what the majority of the Perry-fembots are truly here to discuss.

They don't get very far before someone feels compelled to show their support for Augeri, then they turn into Perry vs Augeri pissing matches.

That's bogus. I never have seen it happen. I don't know of a single Augeri fan who isn't also concurrently a fan of Perrys'.

Just like the thread about TBF. It was immediately swamped with ads for Generations.

Show me one off-topic propagandizing "ad" for Generations in that TBF-themed thread.
Go ahead.
I defy you.

It's almost impossible to have an objective, mature discussion when the comparisons are inevitable and volitile.

I think the TBF thread was mature and objective. I don't recall any partisan mud slinging. I will go back now and double check.

[perryfaithful]

I was open enough to the change to support several shows with the new line up.

Then all ur rheotic on being "faithful to Perry" and "still waiting for him" is empty and disingenuine to the max. Someone truly "Perryfaithful" wouldn't have even entertained the notion of someone singing songs Perry originally sang, let alone shell out hard-earned money to actually go see him.
You're undying loyalty and devotion is a sham.

Did I not just say that I am in this for others than just Steve Perry? That I have great respect for other members of the band? So why would I not go to listen and see them? You try WAY TOO HARD to cause trouble between folks where there is NOT any, Mr. Cause, especially putting words into mouths that were NEVER said. A cheap, gutless way of blowing your own horn.

[ohsherrie]

Whaaaaaaooooo there TNC, I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was just saying that there seems to be no way to avoid comparisons and inevitable resulting arguments.

I also never said you guys weren't Perry fans. I'm not going to seach this board for examples because I just don't have time, but what I described has happened. If someone says something about how well Steve does, or did, something, someone else will feel compelled to say how much better Augeri does it now. For that reason, I usually don't participate a lot in threads that are specfically about Steve Perry because I've come to see them, rightly or not, as baiting and I really don't want to get into a fray just for the sake of the fight.

I also didn't say there was any mud-slinging in the TBF thread. I only said that people immediately started comparing it, unfavorably, to Generations. I facetiously called them "ads" because it seemed as if people wanted to make sure they got plugs in for the new album.

[NealIsGod]

Whaaaaaaooooo there TNC, I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was just saying that there seems to be no way to avoid comparisons and inevitable resulting arguments.

I also never said you guys weren't Perry fans. I'm not going to seach this board for examples because I just don't have time, but what I described has happened. If someone says something about how well Steve does, or did, something, someone else will feel compelled to say how much better Augeri does it now. For that reason, I usually don't participate a lot in threads that are specfically about Steve Perry because I've come to see them, rightly or not, as baiting and I really don't want to get into a fray just for the sake of the fight.

I also didn't say there was any mud-slinging in the TBF thread. I only said that people immediately started comparing it, unfavorably, to Generations. I facetiously called them "ads" because it seemed as if people wanted to make sure they got plugs in for the new album.

I hear you, ohsherrie. I will try not to involve Augeri in a Perry convo, if you all try not to inject Perry into a thread discussing the current lineup.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Did I not just say that I am in this for others than just Steve Perry? That I have great respect for other members of the band? So why would I not go to listen and see them?

If that were really true, wouldn't you still be supporting the other guys in this band and continuing to see them play to this very day?

You try WAY TOO HARD to cause trouble between folks where there is NOT any, Mr. Cause,

They are YOUR contradictions, my dear lady, I am just calling u out on them.

especially putting words into mouths that were NEVER said.

I did no such thing. Here is an exact word-for-word quote of urs from earlier this year (made in response to a post by HOTS):

They should have waited for Perry for as long as it took.

.....and I AM still waiting!!

Someone who is devoutly and allegedly "faithfully" waiting for someone's return, does not venture to go see their replacement under any circumstances or conditions.
That is tantamount to cheating.
Like I said, ur empty gasbag rheotic on being "faithful to Perry" and "still waiting for him" is disingenuine to the EXTREME.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Whaaaaaaooooo there TNC, I wasn't trying to start a fight.

Neither was I. Sorry if I came off hostile.
It's my inner-Deano taking over. Look out!

I was just saying that there seems to be no way to avoid comparisons and inevitable resulting arguments.

If everyone was honest and respectful, I don't see the problem with that.

I also didn't say there was any mud-slinging in the TBF thread. I only said that people immediately started comparing it, unfavorably, to Generations.

People called TBF a "diverse" album, so I named a Journey album that in my mind was more fitting of the term. I could've said Departure, but I chose Generations. Sorry if it seemed like I was hawking a new product.

[ohsherrie]

[Neither was I. Sorry if I came off hostile.
It's my inner-Deano taking over. Look out!

OHOH, ya gotta watch out for those alteregos, .

If everyone was honest and respectful,

And therein lies the problem.

People called TBF a "diverse" album, so I named a Journey album that in my mind was more fitting of the term. I could've said Departure, but I chose Generations. Sorry if it seemed like I was hawking a new product.

I honestly wasn't even talking about that post. I could understand that comparison.

[sngrchk04]

Ok, then at the very least start posting something that is actually reflective of your purported endearment for the Perry-Cain-Schon era.

With the exception of sngrck (who, to be fair, is actually a reformed PerryLoon)

you girlies post absolutely nothing of merit whatsoever.

....and that's s-n-g-r-c-H-k, thank you very much.....

....PerryLoon.........hmmmm.....maybe I'll take that as my new Publisher Moniker:

"(c) 2005 PerryLoon Music"

Thanx, man!

[NealIsGod]

Ok, then at the very least start posting something that is actually reflective of your purported endearment for the Perry-Cain-Schon era.

With the exception of sngrck (who, to be fair, is actually a reformed PerryLoon)

you girlies post absolutely nothing of merit whatsoever.

....and that's s-n-g-r-c-H-k, thank you very much.....

....PerryLoon.........hmmmm.....maybe I'll take that as my new Publisher Moniker:

"(c) 2005 PerryLoon Music"

Thanx, man!

Now THAT'S taking it in the spirit it's intended! Glad you have a sense of humor, s-n-g-r-c-H-k!

[perryfaithful]

So Nora, what exactly is a reformed Perryloon????

[sngrchk04]

So Nora, what exactly is a reformed Perryloon????

I have no idea.

Just thought that was a pretty hysterical name to call someone....so, I ran with it.

[artthou]

[quote="yandtguy"]Actually, I prefer the line-up of Rolie, Schon, Dunbar, Perry and Valory because they made my favorite Journey album, Infinity. As Steve Smith and Ansley Dunbar are comparable in my mind, I would even be OK with Smith, but you can keep Jon Cain.

Greg[/quote]

That was my favorite group as well, although I love them with Steve Smith and Jonathan Cain.

[perryfaithful]

Did I not just say that I am in this for others than just Steve Perry? That I have great respect for other members of the band? So why would I not go to listen and see them?

If that were really true, wouldn't you still be supporting the other guys in this band and continuing to see them play to this very day?

What? You some kind of journeyjunkie? My entertainment money, if I have it, is spread around. I have more interest than Journey. Giving them two shots was enough. Even if Augeri had WOWED me and he did not, the enjoyment of other band members is not enough to keep me coming back year after year and forgoing other groups! Especially when they were not coming up with much new for touring. Where is your life man??

[Andrew]

And here I was thinking this thread might actually serve some greater purpose.
Nope...back to the same old same old...


DOESN'T ANYONE GET TIRED OF THIS?

[The_Noble_Cause]

What? You some kind of journeyjunkie?

As per usual, u answer a question with a non-sequitir.
Random. Off-topic.
Completely unrelated to the valid and cogent points I raised.

My entertainment money, if I have it, is spread around. I have more interest than Journey. Giving them two shots was enough. Even if Augeri had WOWED me and he did not, the enjoyment of other band members is not enough to keep me coming back year after year and forgoing other groups!

Ok.

Especially when they were not coming up with much new for touring.

Like u would give new material a chance even if they did?

Where is your life man??

I do not make it my job to loiter on a forum dedicated to a band I no longer have any interest in.
Where's your life, lady?
How come I get the distinct impression it died right alongside Perry's desire to sing sometime circa 1986?

[The_Noble_Cause]

You also forgot to answer the better part of my post.
How convenient!
In case you missed it, (and so that people can witness what an equivocating Perrydungbeetle you really are) here it is again:

You try WAY TOO HARD to cause trouble between folks where there is NOT any, Mr. Cause,

They are YOUR contradictions, my dear lady, I am just calling u out on them.

especially putting words into mouths that were NEVER said.

I did no such thing. Here is an exact word-for-word quote of urs from earlier this year (made in response to a post by HOTS):

They should have waited for Perry for as long as it took.

.....and I AM still waiting!!

Someone who is devoutly and allegedly "faithfully" waiting for someone's return, does not venture to go see their replacement under any circumstances or conditions.
That is tantamount to cheating.
Like I said, ur empty gasbag rheotic on being "faithful to Perry" and "still waiting for him" is disingenuine to the EXTREME.