Journey To Record Dallas For DVD

[Angiekay]

So you figured the way things go on in YOUR neck of the woods is the benchmark for all national fairs. I don't believe it, Kay. I think most fairs nationwide and the peole who go to them know enough not to expect a band to diverge from the 90-min gr hts norm.

that cornfield show, BTW was that Journey with Augeri?

Oh, I see, so since YOU didn't specify WHAT kind of fairs(you just said fairs) you want to know what fairs around the country do? I guess going to fairs in six states isn't good enough for me to give an answer? Judging from you having to ask about ANY fair in the first place, I'm way ahead of your going to a fair anywhere period.

Anything else you'd like to pick apart because you don't like the answer? Maybe the color of the sky in the midwest vs whatever rock you are under?


And yes that was with Augeri.

[Red13JoePa]

Aren't you EVER nice? I was NOT taking a potshot at the midwest. I can tell you're on the radio because it's like reading an on-air personality on a morning show or something.

What tour was that Augeri show? '01? I remember them having promo shots in front of a cornfield around that time...

[jrnyman28]

Angie, I have read every one of your posts. Now I might not have the best memory anymore, but to my recollection EVERY time you mentioned what Journey requested, you said Journey did not want an opening act because they wanted "An Evening With Journey". Several times, including the BT threads, I mentioned that you GOT "An Evening With Journey". Calling it that, in no way promises a 3+ hour show. It promises a show with Journey only. The post above is the first time (in my memory) that you have said ANYTHING about Journey asking to play their "full set". In fact, in your BT thread you even mentioned that your fair coordinator (or whatever title used) left it up to Journey as to what length of set they would play. He never verified anything. He did not specifically ASK what length of set Journey would play and therefore ASSUMED that Journey would play a 3+ hour show REGARDLESS of their set length history at all other fairs.

Now when I entered this conversation, yet again, I gave what I knew were your points to this conversation. I hoped that would be enough to move past this. It is NO LONGER RELEVANT what happened in Sioux Falls! And since there was no big response in the press or elsewhere, it is decidedly inconsequential!

[NealIsGod]

All this talk about cornfields and fairs is making my eyes glaze over. Maybe that crowd would have preferred Dueling Banjos?

[Angiekay]

Angie, I have read every one of your posts. Now I might not have the best memory anymore, but to my recollection EVERY time you mentioned what Journey requested, you said Journey did not want an opening act because they wanted "An Evening With Journey". Several times, including the BT threads, I mentioned that you GOT "An Evening With Journey". Calling it that, in no way promises a 3+ hour show. It promises a show with Journey only. The post above is the first time (in my memory) that you have said ANYTHING about Journey asking to play their "full set". In fact, in your BT thread you even mentioned that your fair coordinator (or whatever title used) left it up to Journey as to what length of set they would play. He never verified anything. He did not specifically ASK what length of set Journey would play and therefore ASSUMED that Journey would play a 3+ hour show REGARDLESS of their set length history at all other fairs.

Now when I entered this conversation, yet again, I gave what I knew were your points to this conversation. I hoped that would be enough to move past this. It is NO LONGER RELEVANT what happened in Sioux Falls! And since there was no big response in the press or elsewhere, it is decidedly inconsequential!

You, know what? You really don't care about how we were treated or my opinion or what actually happened. Think whatever you want, remember whatever you conviently want to. I'm so sick of this. Yes it IS NO LONGER RELEVANT. How about you pass on that memo to NIG and Red who find the need to bring it up whenever they can get a dig in. Take a look at the first page of this thread. Who brings up Sioux Falls and that show? Was it me? No.

Will Journey actually put out a four hour show on DVD?...gee what a treat, maybe I'll get my money's worth this time or maybe I'll keep my hard earned money for a band that gives a shit about their fans.

[NealIsGod]

Will Journey actually put out a four hour show on DVD?...gee what a treat, maybe I'll get my money's worth this time or maybe I'll keep my hard earned money for a band that gives a shit about their fans.

boo hoo.

[Angiekay]

:lol:
Aren't you EVER nice? I was NOT taking a potshot at the midwest.

Don't crack your own mirror there, Red. Oh, and thanks for addressing what I actually said. I knew you were just blowing smoke.

[NealIsGod]

So how many times per day are you playing "The Place in Your Heart", Angie? I am sure you aren't letting your personal feelings get in the way of your professional duties.

[jrnyman28]

You, know what? You really don't care about how we were treated or my opinion or what actually happened. Think whatever you want, remember whatever you conviently want to. I'm so sick of this.

You have no idea WHAT I care about. But you sure seem to get rattled easy. If you will recall, I did agree that Journey should have played an encore instead of playing straight through. I also stated that I would have liked Journey to comment on this issue. I DO care how ANY Jounrey fans view Journey. I want Journey to have all the support they can get.

Yes it IS NO LONGER RELEVANT. How about you pass on that memo to NIG and Red who find the need to bring it up whenever they can get a dig in. Take a look at the first page of this thread. Who brings up Sioux Falls and that show? Was it me? No.

I agree, which is also why I first replied with "not to start this back up again" (or something similar).

Will Journey actually put out a four hour show on DVD?...gee what a treat, maybe I'll get my money's worth this time or maybe I'll keep my hard earned money for a band that gives a shit about their fans.

I doubt it will be a full 4 hour DVD, probably editted down to fit once DVD.
As for the rest, Journey does more for their fans than most bands I know. Just because they "mistreated" you (in YOUR eyes) does not mean they do not care for their fans. Face it, this is purely a miscommunication between fair management and band management. I can see fault on BOTH sides...unlike YOU!

[Red13JoePa]

Journeman28 Wrote: "Angie, I have read every one of your posts. Now I might not have the best memory anymore, but to my recollection EVERY time you mentioned what Journey requested, you said Journey did not want an opening act because they wanted "An Evening With Journey". Several times, including the BT threads, I mentioned that you GOT "An Evening With Journey". Calling it that, in no way promises a 3+ hour show. It promises a show with Journey only. The post above is the first time (in my memory) that you have said ANYTHING about Journey asking to play their "full set". In fact, in your BT thread you even mentioned that your fair coordinator (or whatever title used) left it up to Journey as to what length of set they would play. He never verified anything. He did not specifically ASK what length of set Journey would play and therefore ASSUMED that Journey would play a 3+ hour show REGARDLESS of their set length history at all other fairs."

You're caught, Kay.

AngieKay wrote:"How about you pass on that memo to NIG and Red who find the need to bring it up whenever they can get a dig in. Take a look at the first page of this thread. Who brings up Sioux Falls and that show? Was it me? No. "

No it wasn't you HERE. Instead you bring it up in Styx forums and places like that where you figure you won't be challenged on it. Your bitch is about nothing more than your sense of entitlement to a longer, discounted show and free stuff.

Here's some of your unchecked bullshit in Styx:

I saw Journey this past summer and they played a bunch of "deep cuts" it was a 3 hour show. I was very impressed, so it wouldn't really be unrealistic.

Well, our city got screwed out of a three hour Journey show, so I wouldn't know there. When you play for three hours, of COURSE they are going to have to dig deeper. Journey is also celebrating their 30th Anniversary, they are bound to do something a little special. I've seen Journey several times prior to this and rarely do they do more then two or three deep cuts.[/color][/size][/b][/quote]

And for good measure before you accused me and NIG of not being able stop talking about you here:

Beware Angiekay! You are entering a dimension not only of words and ideas but of mindlessness. There's a signpost up ahead youre entering the Froy Zone, where nothing matters except this one rude, classless guy's incessant whining over a divorce that's over half a decade old. Attempting to make sense is pointless. And if you do, some OTHER a$$hole may appear to bash you for dong so!

I'm well aware of that, I've met some of his Journey clones!

Your rules work 1-way huh?

[Angiekay]

Lame. You all keep believin' (pun pun)your little band can do no wrong. I've seen them for what they are and aren't. I'll play their old songs maybe even see them in concert if I get my oooooh, free concert tickets again, but no new Journey music will see the light of day on my show. You can call that what you will. What I posted on the Styx board was no different then the shit you dig at here...oh and guess what? It wasn't even directed at YOU...unless you saw yourself in the post(guess that's why you pointed out the assholes one, huh, Red?)
it actually had something to do with the conversation! I know that's a new concept for you all.

YOU obviously can't move on or answer questions that are posed to you on your lame accusaions. Guess you'll have to be all grown up and deal with that huh?(and good luck with THAT)

Over and out.

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, my shit in here never mentioned YOU by name but here yaare.


And I never pretended to be above referencing you, as YOU did in here after posting about us in Styx.
Whenever you're called on something you just subject change and propoganda spew.

"You all." Yep. Forever on the air in SF.

[jrnyman28]

Lame. You all keep believin' (pun pun)your little band can do no wrong.

Yet again, you apparantly don't read the posts on this forume. They are equally balanced with good and bad. Journey are far from perfect, especially their management. Many of us here have pointed that out.

I've seen them for what they are and aren't.

No, you clearly see them how you want to. You cannot seem to fathom the idea that fair management dropped the ball AS WELL. It is a case of miscommunication on BOTH SIDES!

I'll play their old songs maybe even see them in concert if I get my oooooh, free concert tickets again, but no new Journey music will see the light of day on my show.

Talk about vindictive, sour grapes, bullshit. Play the music if the music is good. Don't if it isn't. But you should keep your personal politics out of it.

it actually had something to do with the conversation!

No it wasn't. The Journey clones comment had NOTHING to do with the thread...

[NealIsGod]

I'll play their old songs maybe even see them in concert if I get my oooooh, free concert tickets again, but no new Journey music will see the light of day on my show.

Talk about vindictive, sour grapes, bullshit. Play the music if the music is good. Don't if it isn't. But you should keep your personal politics out of it.

That's why she's stuck in Siouxsie Falls. Not an ounce of professionalism. She fits in there. Look at the way they treat bands for playing a half hour less than they thought - they treated them like they came out and pissed all over them or something! Here's a clue, Angie - if they got that mad over a shorter show, that means they LOVE Journey... so play it, disc jockey.

[Angiekay]

That's why she's stuck in Siouxsie Falls. Not an ounce of professionalism. She fits in there. Look at the way they treat bands for playing a half hour less than they thought - they treated them like they came out and pissed all over them or something! Here's a clue, Angie - if they got that mad over a shorter show, that means they LOVE Journey... so play it, disc jockey.

Since your post was so sweet, polite and not at all insulting, I'll think about it.....


















Um, NO.

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, are you not like Clear Channel-driven or something?
You guys actually have a good say inw hat you play

[NealIsGod]

That's ok, I can tell you don't have the class to play it, even though your listeners obviously love the band enough to get pissed about not getting enough of them...

[The_Noble_Cause]

I wasn't planning on going to the show, but on a whim I thought "what the heck." So, I went to ticketmaster.com, searched for one ticket (Ask The Lonely), and bingo! I'll be in the 18th row, front and center. Always been a sideline fan, never been to any of their concerts.

Hopefully I'll get to see how much emotion Mr. Schon plays with tonight!

Be sure to report back with your thoughts.

[VH101]

I'm back from my one (and hopefully) only solo concert-going experience. Man, I can barely write this. Too much beer!

The show... Many cameras recording the footage of this concert. Got in the way (i.e. saw them in the stage background too much).

What I will remember most: Mr. Valory's squirting mic stand. Seemed to me he was drawing attention with that. Quite funny!

The performance was, for as much as I could tell, flawless.

Mr. Schon played quite well throughout.

Does he play with more emotion than EVH? I don't think so.

Is he a great guitarist? Yes.

Sorry I can't be a better reviewer than this. But, I think you'll see for yourselves when the DVD comes out.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm back from my one (and hopefully) only solo concert-going experience. Man, I can barely write this. Too much beer!

The show... Many cameras recording the footage of this concert. Got in the way (i.e. saw them in the stage background too much).

What I will remember most: Mr. Valory's squirting mic stand. Seemed to me he was drawing attention with that. Quite funny!

The performance was, for as much as I could tell, flawless.

Mr. Schon played quite well throughout.

Does he play with more emotion than EVH? I don't think so.

Is he a great guitarist? Yes.

Sorry I can't be a better reviewer than this. But, I think you'll see for yourselves when the DVD comes out.

Glad u enjoyed it, man.
Did everyone take a crack at singing?
How was Augeri?
When I saw him last (on Sept. 3rd) he was the best I have ever heard him.

[Eric]

Anyone have a setlist?

[VH101]

Glad u enjoyed it, man.
Did everyone take a crack at singing?
How was Augeri?
When I saw him last (on Sept. 3rd) he was the best I have ever heard him.

Yep. Everyone sang - including the audience!

Augeri was "in the zone." Sounded just like Perry when needed - maybe better? The new songs rocked!

Ouch.

[NealIsGod]

Augeri was "in the zone." Sounded just like Perry when needed - maybe better? The new songs rocked!

Ouch.

Hear that, everyone?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Augeri was "in the zone." Sounded just like Perry when needed - maybe better?

Mike Stone, a reviewer from the Dallas morning news, would like to differ:

"Then there's Steve Augeri, who replaced Mr. Perry well after Journey's heyday in 1997. Both are cut from similar molds, but Mr. Augeri's voice is cast in putty compared with Mr. Perry's platinum. His stage presence fell behind even the reluctant Mr. Valory's, and he routinely couldn't maintain high notes. Drummer Deen Castronovo actually upstaged him (and revealed a vocal timbre even closer to Perry's) during "Still They Ride" off of 1981's 9 million-selling breakthrough, Escape. Yikes."

http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/ ... d8442.html

[Red13JoePa]

Bah.
Typical critic afraid to toss a boquet Augie's way.

Setlist anyone????

[NoMoreTails]

Augeri was "in the zone." Sounded just like Perry when needed - maybe better?

Mike Stone, a reviewer from the Dallas morning news, would like to differ:

"Then there's Steve Augeri, who replaced Mr. Perry well after Journey's heyday in 1997. Both are cut from similar molds, but Mr. Augeri's voice is cast in putty compared with Mr. Perry's platinum. His stage presence fell behind even the reluctant Mr. Valory's, and he routinely couldn't maintain high notes. Drummer Deen Castronovo actually upstaged him (and revealed a vocal timbre even closer to Perry's) during "Still They Ride" off of 1981's 9 million-selling breakthrough, Escape. Yikes."

http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/ ... d8442.html

If its the same Augeri I saw a short time ago, this guy's full of shit--as evidenced by his criticism of Neal. I'll take the unbiased opinion of the VH guy.
Deen must be having some kind of voice problem to have sang only one song (as reported on DixieHighway) in a four hour show and with Neal saying Deen was going to sing six.

[ohsherrie]

I'll take the unbiased opinion of the VH guy.

Do you have reason to think the reporter was biased? Maybe he was just looking for something different from the show than VH was. Not everyone likes the same thing. VH is obviously a fan of rock guitar so his focus was probably more on Neal while the reporter seemed to be more interested in the vocals.

[Eric]

I kinda have to agree with OhSherrie...the review at least reviewed the show...that is more than some critics do. I just wish a critic could tell that he was comparing Perry's studio voice from 3 decades ago to Augeri's live voice today.

[NoMoreTails]

I'll take the unbiased opinion of the VH guy.

Do you have reason to think the reporter was biased? Maybe he was just looking for something different from the show than VH was. Not everyone likes the same thing. VH is obviously a fan of rock guitar so his focus was probably more on Neal while the reporter seemed to be more interested in the vocals.

Yeah, I figure he's a Perryhead. Either that or he can't hear well, this is based on the six shows I've seen this tour.
Unless Steve had an off night, which I assume he didn't based on VH101's comments. If you read them, you know that he said more about Steve than he did Neal.
"Augeri was "in the zone." Sounded just like Perry when needed - maybe better?"--not that I feel he sounds just like Perry myself, he's more of a rocker.

[ohsherrie]

I just wish a critic could tell that he was comparing Perry's studio voice from 3 decades ago to Augeri's live voice today.

As unfair as it may seem to supporters of the current band, that's always going to be the case. I'm not saying this to make anyone mad so please don't take offense to it, but when most people hear the name Journey they expect to hear the Steve Perry even though he himself may not be able to deliver those songs the way he did then. Maybe they would be more forgiving or accepting of him simply because he is Steve Perry, or maybe not. We'll never know.