Why Perry Will Never Re-Join Journey

[Rockindeano]

Good solid points Monker.

I don't understand this thread title. Andrew is playing dumb I think..He knows damned well Perry is NEVER singing with this band again, yet teases the few gullibles.

There is actually a show or two planned for Europe next year. Wow. Exciting.

You can't tell me these guys are bored. Augeri must be out of his mind to think he has ANY chance of departing and looking for a solo career. If he can't get a hit song with Neal and Cain then he isn't ever getting one on his own. It may be a "saving face" decision, if they are planning on changing singers, which is my guess.

Ross. Why would he ever want to leave the comfort of a recliner full of cash? He goes out there every night, plays the hits(which he can do in is sleep), and sing on a song. Yeah, must be a reason for him to bolt too. That VU cd is selling off the shelves .

The wild cards are of course Neal and Cain, and in particular Cain. I disagree with those that say Gregg is the guy. Hey, Gregg left during all the bullshit about politics, labels and managers...He hasn't seen anything yet! Cain is tried and true. Cain is brilliant, and Cain is devoted.

I think Cain and Neal will meet over a few beers, decide to plan at LEAST A GOING AWAY tour, to let fans have notice that this is it. I really believe Journey has 1 year left. I for one am too tired to see more personnel changes. Enough is enough.

This current lineup jells better than any before it. They work well together musically. Why ruin a good thing? Maybe Jon and Neal made Steve and Deen a hanshake deal when they started...."You willl make some fantastic money." Well, they have made millions, and now maybe Jon and Neal(both with kids to raise), might just say, one more go around and that's it.

About these guys going off and doing solo projects...Who cares if they don't make money? These guys are millionaires. They shouldn't give a damn about making any more money. However, I hope they give a damn about giving notice to fans that, "this is it."

[Andrew]

Andrew is playing dumb I think..He knows damned well Perry is NEVER singing with this band again, yet teases the few gullibles.

I have no knowledge of this one way or the other. That was just my opinion. I personally don't see it happening, but have not been told anything on this subject that I am not sharing.

Far too much speculation going on...time to move on.

[Rockindeano]

Andrew is playing dumb I think..He knows damned well Perry is NEVER singing with this band again, yet teases the few gullibles.

I have no knowledge of this one way or the other. That was just my opinion. I personally don't see it happening, but have not been told anything on this subject that I am not sharing.

Far too much speculation going on...time to move on.

LOL..YOU brought it up! Mind games..Dude, the CIA is looking for a few competent individuals..There are none here at the moment. Sign up wombat spy!

[Andrew]

LOL...

Let me re-title the thread - 'Why In My Opinion, Steve Perry will Never Re-Join Journey"

[Rockindeano]

LOL...

Let me re-title the thread - 'Why In My Opinion, Steve Perry will Never Re-Join Journey"

Bullshit. WE can't re-title our threads. Now cough up the inside information you fuckin hijacker!

[Andrew]

No seriously Deano....my post was in regards to Perry talk (as in, wouldn't it be good if one day...) and that is my opinion why he won't re-join the band.

As far as everything else that has been thrown into the mix during this thread...I can't be responsible for that!

[Rockindeano]

Okay boss. whatever you say

Now you are secret, sly, wryly, fooling wombat roo.

sorry, the vicodin is really kicking in..I feel like going out and handing out Big Macs.

[Andrew]

Thanks for the posts...but do watch the language dude....lots of lurkers here, not all appreciate the language used sometimes (as they do let me know).

[jrnyman28]

2006 is a year where NOTHING Journey seems to be planned. So, they have to decide what their next step is...or is it over?

So, what is their best option? Continue doing solos and things like "Soul Sirkus" and let go of Journey? Wait for Perry? Record a new CD? Tour?

I doubt that ANYTHING for Journey's future has really been decided. In the end, IMO, when none of their outside projects make much money, they'll try to get back together and schedule another Journey tour. But, THEY need to decide.

This makes sense. With little Journey activity scheduled for next year maybe the guys will finally get an ACTUAL GAMEPLAN for how they want to proceed with Journey!

I would definately like to hear the band is recording a follow-up the "Generations". I would like them to take their time with it...at least with the mixing/producing. And I would love to see a real game plan for releasing and promoting the damn thing.

[JohnH]

Jeez.....speculating that Journey's over next year after one of their greatest years since Augeri joined? A year that started with the fantastic walk of fame ceremony and concert, a great album and a successful tour....and having one of their old songs pop up on the cultural radar with the White Sox? That's ludicrous.

John

[NealIsGod]

I think Cain and Neal will meet over a few beers

I heard somewhere that Cain doesn't drink.

[Greg]

Aside from the politics of the band, from a mere fan stand point, there are only a few changes I'm willing to handle. One change is Rollie coming back to the band, and I don't believe that would necessarily mean Cain having to leave. Have Rollie on the organ! Another change of course is Steve Perry coming back. I really don't see that happening, but ya never know in the rock business. Lastly, since I am familar with The Storm and Two Fires, I could definitely see Chalfant in the band.

What I would not be able to accept is for Augeri, who has worked hard to be considered THE frontman for Journey, to up and leave for some reason, and for Journey to bring in somebody else completely new to the Journey scene for us to get used to. Like Deano said, I'm just just too tired to have to go through another change like that. In retrospect, Journey made the right choice in bringing Steve Augeri into the fold, because they considered more than just his talents.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I heard somewhere that Cain doesn't drink.

I recall an early interview w/ Augeri where he discussed his post show ritual.
One part included him and Jon celebrating a show by knocking back a cold one.

[NoMoreTails]

I heard somewhere that Cain doesn't drink.

I recall an early interview w/ Augeri where he discussed his post show ritual.
One part included him and Jon celebrating a show by knocking back a cold one.

I think you're right TNC, Augeri would only allow himself a beer after shows on Sunday night on that tour as Mondays were off days. I think Jon only drank when Steve allowed himself to.

[Rockindeano]

I think you're right TNC, Augeri would only allow himself a beer after shows on Sunday night on that tour as Mondays were off days. I think Jon only drank when Steve allowed himself to.

Shaking my head at Augeri..Doesn't he know if you beer bong it, the beer is through the zone so fast, it is basically non existent. Steve, try it sometime I look for you at Indio. You know I am getting backstage at that show..I need this coveted information.

[mrsp]

I agree that Perry will never return to Journey. His opportunity to do so was during Trial By Fire and he backed out of the tour because of an alleged hip injury. I say alleged because even Journey's former manager Herbie Herbert seriously questioned the genuineness of this injury. And at this point I don't believe he can sing even close to what he used to, simply because he's physically older and for this same reason (age) he couldn't stand the rigors of being on the road. He's not with Journey simply because he doesn't want to be.
Unless Journey has a hit off Generations, I would be surprised if they toured the U.S. again. Neal really enjoys Soul Sirkus and Jon would like to spend more time with his family. With these two long time members being pulled in other directions, only time will tell.

[Rockindeano]

I agree that Perry will never return to Journey. His opportunity to do so was during Trial By Fire and he backed out of the tour because of an alleged hip injury. I say alleged because even Journey's former manager Herbie Herbert seriously questioned the genuineness of this injury. And at this point I don't believe he can sing even close to what he used to, simply because he's physically older and for this same reason (age) he couldn't stand the rigors of being on the road. He's not with Journey simply because he doesn't want to be.
Unless Journey has a hit off Generations, I would be surprised if they toured the U.S. again. Neal really enjoys Soul Sirkus and Jon would like to spend more time with his family. With these two long time members being pulled in other directions, only time will tell.

I agree 100%. We have ONE more tour left. As far as Perry goes, why even bring it up? He doesn't sing in Journey because he flat out isn't good enough. I don't even know why his name gets any merit in a conversation. That may seem harsh because of how great he once was, but the harsh reality is he simply can't sing at this level. I don't care what anyone says, he just isn't good enough.

I do think the band will be around for 2 more years, and 1 of them will be an off year, and the other a "Final Departure" tour. This is it folks, IMO.

Soul Sirkus might be fun for Neal, but it isn't going anywhere. NO new rock band is going anywhere. Journey is very entrenched and has a huge solid base; unlike Styx who has to cancel shows, Journey can play to 10-15k per night, and for the Finale tour, wouldn't be surprisd to see even bigger venues.

Time to start pickin' a "new" band to follow...The days are numbered..

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think you're right TNC, Augeri would only allow himself a beer after shows on Sunday night on that tour as Mondays were off days. I think Jon only drank when Steve allowed himself to.

Correct. This is when Steve was starting out with Journey. He drinks even more infrequently now to ensure that he can sing those songs to the fans every night.