Here's One For The Perry Fans

[jrnyman28]

http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/articles/2005/11/05/he_never_stopped_believin/

Seven years ago, Journey, as we knew it, died. That's when the band split with Steve Perry, the feather-haired singer whose piercing pipes were responsible for ''Open Arms, ''Wheel in the Sky," and ''Anyway You Want It." Journey continues to tour with a C-grade Perry replacement. The real deal has re-emerged after years away from the spotlight -- and a hip replacement. Thanks go out to the Chicago White Sox, who adopted Journey's ''Don't Stop Believin' " on their march to a championship. Perry sang at the team's victory parade with White Sox players Joe Crede, Aaron Rowand, and A.J. Pierzynski. Now, he's dipping into the past, overseeing a CD and DVD of a concert from the band's heyday. ''Live in Houston 1981 -- Escape Tour" comes out Nov. 15.

How did it feel having the White Sox adopt your song? You are a San Francisco Giants fan, right?

If they love you, I don't think it's wrong to go where you're loved. The second night, I was sitting in the clubhouse with Crede and Rowand and [relief pitcher Bobby] Jenks and I said, ''Congrats, that's 2 for 2 now." I told them I had to head out and do some work on the disc. Crede looked at me and said, ''Dude, you've got to go to Houston. This may never happen again."

So you changed your plans?

They played five hours and 45 minutes in Game 3, which took me to the edge of insanity. We won that one. Here we are the next day in Game 4, I'm standing near the warning track near the line and the White Sox are doing their stretches and busting my chops. I felt like I was one of the guys.

Like being in a band again.

When I was in Journey, there was a camaraderie. It had a purpose, it had a mission. We scrapped and had difficult times with each other and battles over musical differences but that never stopped us from being the best we could be.

You know, I did my first slow dance to ''Open Arms." Actually it might have been a Chicago song, but I like ''Open Arms" better.

I can't tell you how many times I get a tap on the shoulder and somebody says, ''I really love your voice and you guys were the greatest band." Or ''This was my prom song." Sometimes I forget. I'm a normal guy. I live a normal life.

What do you mean a normal life? You're Steve Perry.

I make my own bed when I'm at my house. I wash my own dishes every day. And when they pile up it's because I don't wash them.

Do you miss those days?

Terribly. When I heard the raw tapes and I started mixing it, there were times I had to keep my head down on the console. Those were some magical times. It was too hard to watch. And it was 24 years ago and it seems like it was yesterday.

So the Journey thing is over, right?

The divorce is final. Back when that happened, it was January of 1998. October is when I had the hip replacement, but January is when I got the ultimatum that they had been checking out other singers. That made it pretty personal.

But you give each of them solo spots on the concert album. Why not say, forget Neal Schon?

No, no, no. In the music, they're pouring their hearts out. I wanted it to be representative of what we once were together because the performances are absolutely magic. Especially Neal Schon. Though we're on the outs and we do not speak, it doesn't take away what we were.

Look, you don't have to do this, but is there any way you'd sing a few lines of ''Open Arms?"

''Lying beside you, here in the dark / Feeling your heart beat with mine"

Steve Perry, you remain my hero. GEOFF EDGERS

© Copyright 2005 Globe Newspaper Company.

[PROPERRY]

Wow Great interview by Perry!

Did you notice how Perry makes no negative remarks toward his former bandmates? He only gives "high praise" about their talents & keeps his personal feelings & differences to himself. He does not use the interview to "make digs" towards them.


That is one of the things I appreciate Perry for because he lets the reader enjoy what he has to say& leaves his "personal problems" with others out of it.

I think if Neal & Jon LEFT their personal feelings out of interviews, it would make for better reading in MY opinion.


Again, GREAT interveiw by Perry! I enjoyed reading that very much!

Lori

[sngrchk04]

"What do you mean a normal life? You're Steve Perry."

LOVED that!! LOL

Thanx, Dave....great read!

[ohsherrie]

Thanks so much Dave. He sounded so open and upbeat. I'm really glad he enjoyed the White Sox thing so much, and if this interviewer is an example, we must not have been the only fans that enjoyed him doing it.

[Abitaman]

Wow Great interview by Perry!

Did you notice how Perry makes no negative remarks toward his former bandmates? He only gives "high praise" about their talents & keeps his personal feelings & differences to himself. He does not use the interview to "make digs" towards them.

True and why can't we? and not put down the new Journey.-ERIC

[Abitaman]

Wow Great interview by Perry!





I think if Neal & Jon LEFT their personal feelings out of interviews, it would make for better reading in MY opinion.

Maybe they have to defend there self from all the people who keep bashing them because Perry is no longer in the band.

But, yes I would be nice if all could play nice, us here and ex and current members of the band-ERIC

[The_Noble_Cause]

Wow Great interview by Perry!

Actually the interview was conducted by a reporter named Geoff Edgers. Why is it u mutants must always attribute an inordinate amount of credit to Perry?
Perry is Journey!
Perry created the piano!
Great Interview by Perry! etc. etc.

Did you notice how Perry makes no negative remarks toward his former bandmates? He only gives "high praise" about their talents & keeps his personal feelings & differences to himself. He does not use the interview to "make digs" towards them.

That is one of the things I appreciate Perry for because he lets the reader enjoy what he has to say& leaves his "personal problems" with others out of it.

Maybe that's because Perry knows he's the guy at fault.
Ever think of that?
The perpetrator of a crime doesn't speak ill of others, he keeps his mouth shut and lays low until suspicions fade away.

After all, Neal and Jonathan didn't feign a hip injury and renege on a multi-million dollar advance on a tour.

I think if Neal & Jon LEFT their personal feelings out of interviews, it would make for better reading in MY opinion.

No it wouldn't.
Perry and Jon are dishing the straight dirt on Perry. That makes for sensational reading. Who wants a fluff interview loaded with nothing but innocuous soft balls?

[ohsherrie]

TNC, it might be time for you to visit your proctologist. It seems that you may have a thorn up your anus. You've done nothing but spew excrement over the board for days.

[Abitaman]

Hey Noble C. Which Bond movie is that picture off of. Have all the bond movies, and can't put my finger on it. Had to be one before the beginning of 80's. If you have already said, forgive, been away for over two months. Also, put cd in mail today-ERIC

[The_Noble_Cause]

Hey Noble C. Which Bond movie is that picture off of.

Hi Eric. It's from The Spy Who Loved Me (the one with metal-toothed giant, JAWS, and the underwater car)

Had to be one before the beginning of 80's.

Right you are. '77 to be exact.

Also, put cd in mail today-ERIC

Thanks ever so much.

[heardonthestreet]

Thank you Dave! A typical Perry interview. You didn't have to bring it here but you did. I for one appreciate it. I owe you one, lol.

[OpeningAct]

I honestly don't understand the obvious bias against Perry on these boards.
Every word he says is dissected, while the current members of Journey get, for the most part, a free pass.
You sound like jilted lovers...and I DO know what that feels like...

[perryfaithful]

"Steve Perry, you remain my hero"

[Abitaman]

I honestly don't understand the obvious bias against Perry on these boards.
Every word he says is dissected, while the current members of Journey get, for the most part, a free pass.
You sound like jilted lovers...and I DO know what that feels like...

I am and always will think Steve Perry is the voice of rock!!! I get mad at how the pro Perry hate Journey as is now when others like it. There are some on this board they are pro-Perry that I would send music to, like I do the others, but they hate the rest of us so bad, that I really don't see myself trading with or just sending things to. I don't think the others (could be wrong), hate Perry, but have moved on with Augeri, its the bashing of the band they hate-ERIC

[sadie65]

I honestly don't understand the obvious bias against Perry on these boards.
Every word he says is dissected, while the current members of Journey get, for the most part, a free pass.
You sound like jilted lovers...and I DO know what that feels like...

I am and always will think Steve Perry is the voice of rock!!! I get mad at how the pro Perry hate Journey as is now when others like it. There are some on this board they are pro-Perry that I would send music to, like I do the others, but they hate the rest of us so bad, that I really don't see myself trading with or just sending things to. I don't think the others (could be wrong), hate Perry, but have moved on with Augeri, its the bashing of the band they hate-ERIC

All very valid points. I guess when people make an emotional connection with a band/artist, they sometimes cannot accept when it is broken not by their choice. Clinging to either extreme will not change that. And it is those extremes which cause all the discord here. Bashing, or perceived bashing, will continue as long as the emotions are in play...sadly.

[Abitaman]

I honestly don't understand the obvious bias against Perry on these boards.
Every word he says is dissected, while the current members of Journey get, for the most part, a free pass.
You sound like jilted lovers...and I DO know what that feels like...

I am and always will think Steve Perry is the voice of rock!!! I get mad at how the pro Perry hate Journey as is now when others like it. There are some on this board they are pro-Perry that I would send music to, like I do the others, but they hate the rest of us so bad, that I really don't see myself trading with or just sending things to. I don't think the others (could be wrong), hate Perry, but have moved on with Augeri, its the bashing of the band they hate-ERIC

All very valid points. I guess when people make an emotional connection with a band/artist, they sometimes cannot accept when it is broken not by their choice. Clinging to either extreme will not change that. And it is those extremes which cause all the discord here. Bashing, or perceived bashing, will continue as long as the emotions are in play...sadly.

With a band like Styx and Journey, having such a loyal fan base, it will keep happening-ERIC

[heardonthestreet]

I honestly don't understand the obvious bias against Perry on these boards.
Every word he says is dissected, while the current members of Journey get, for the most part, a free pass.
You sound like jilted lovers...and I DO know what that feels like...

I am and always will think Steve Perry is the voice of rock!!! I get mad at how the pro Perry hate Journey as is now when others like it. There are some on this board they are pro-Perry that I would send music to, like I do the others, but they hate the rest of us so bad, that I really don't see myself trading with or just sending things to. I don't think the others (could be wrong), hate Perry, but have moved on with Augeri, its the bashing of the band they hate-ERIC

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I think that your post is very observant, OA.

Eric, I think that you may be missing something here. I think that I'm safe in saying that all the hate, as you call it is on the side of a few guys here. They would never say, to their face, what some of them post to the ladies. One perry poster has never posted a neg about the band and is probably one of the nicest posters here, and has been personally attacked way too often and it is obvious that the posters are only trying to break her down because of her gentleness.
I don't see a lot of hate here from the Perry fans. I see disgust. I see hate from lots of the guys who have a natural disposition to be that way and have done so, even with their friends.
Neal and Jon have brought a lot of this on themselves for the substance of some of their interviews. Perry hasn't felt the need to do anything but praise the guys and their time together. You might state that Neal and Jon have felt that they had to defend themselves because of what some fans post. Perry has been terribly maligned and I'm sure he's aware of what some fans say, but hasn't felt the need to slam his former bandmates.

No one hates the band. I have opinions and usually state as such when I post and usually get scorched when I do. Lots of the fans here criticize the band and feel that it is only their right.

It might help if Andrew would return to the policy of, no personal attacks!

[Abitaman]

I am not saying that us guys are without fault. Lord knows I have my faults. And sometime we guys start stuff too, but in my opinion, Perry people are more negative toward the band than the other way_ERIC

[heardonthestreet]

I am not saying that us guys are without fault. Lord knows I have my faults. And sometime we guys start stuff too, but in my opinion, Perry people are more negative toward the band than the other way_ERIC

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Are you trying to start an argument, lol?

I know that I am one of the thorns in the guys sides as I believe that they just can't take the truth unless it is something they profess.
I've said all I have to say anyway and will follow the progress of the band and Perry on another board. If a nice guy like you does not see reason, it's not worth the effort here.

Happy Holidays all from the three of us.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think that I'm safe in saying that all the hate, as you call it is on the side of a few guys here. They would never say, to their face, what some of them post to the ladies.

Every year you say this and every year I tell you u are wrong. Just because you are a weak-kneeed sniveling sycophant in the real world, does not mean we all are. Yes, I would say everything I say here to ur face and in fact, more than likely I'd push you down a flight of stairs just for good measure.

One perry poster has never posted a neg about the band and is probably one of the nicest posters here, and has been personally attacked way too often and it is obvious that the posters are only trying to break her down because of her gentleness.

Prove it. Show us. You're lying.

Perry hasn't felt the need to do anything but praise the guys and their time together. You might state that Neal and Jon have felt that they had to defend themselves because of what some fans post. Perry has been terribly maligned and I'm sure he's aware of what some fans say, but hasn't felt the need to slam his former bandmates.

Maybe that's because Perry knows he's the guy at fault.
Ever think of that?
The perpetrator of a crime doesn't speak ill of others, he keeps his mouth shut and lays low until suspicions fade away.

After all, Neal and Jonathan didn't feign a hip injury and renege on a multi-million dollar advance on a tour.

No one hates the band. I have opinions and usually state as such when I post and usually get scorched when I do.

That's because your opinions are predicated on NOTHING. You say imbecilic statements such as "too much guitar" or "the contrast between the lyrics and music is out of sync" and then you cravenly deflect and head for the mountains.
You routinely offer ZERO corrorboration.

Lots of the fans here criticize the band and feel that it is only their right.

Me included. So does Dave and Monker. And they always back it up, too. Unlike yourself, they don't adhere to a baseless hit and run posting methodology.

It might help if Andrew would return to the policy of, no personal attacks!

Why should he? Time and time again it is always you and your ilk that is the first to break that rule every time it is employed. Why should he even bother?
Here's a more novel idea: Why don't you obssessive girlies expatriate your ideological asses to another forum and leave us in peace?

[Abitaman]

I am not saying that us guys are without fault. Lord knows I have my faults. And sometime we guys start stuff too, but in my opinion, Perry people are more negative toward the band than the other way_ERIC

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Are you trying to start an argument, lol?

I know that I am one of the thorns in the guys sides as I believe that they just can't take the truth unless it is something they profess.
I've said all I have to say anyway and will follow the progress of the band and Perry on another board. If a nice guy like you does not see reason, it's not worth the effort here.

Happy Holidays all from the three of us.

I do not like to argue, or start them. I was just stating my point. I have never really had a problem with pro or con Perry people (or whoever). I would get a long well with pro Perry people too, but I see their view slightly different than mine.
Have I ever had a run in with you-NO Have I ever said anything bad about Perry-No I was just stating what I thought, that's all. And Happy Thanksgiving to you and Merry Christmas too,-ERIC

[artthou]

Why do people keep saying Steve Perry feigned a hip replacement? Is there any proof of that?

[Andrew]

Well, I for one found that to be a gratious and enjoyable little interview.

Very tasteful.

[jrnyman28]

Perry has been terribly maligned and I'm sure he's aware of what some fans say, but hasn't felt the need to slam his former bandmates.

Ya know, I actually liked HOTS post for a change. I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but she posted feelings and observations instead of a simply "smack". If more of HOTS posts were like this one, I could accept what she says...

Now, for this specific part of her post, I got to thinking...as the frontman and "The Voice" of Journey, I guess it is fair that IF Perry is to get so much of the 'credit' or 'praise' than he is also to get so much of the 'blame'.

Throughout my years on these Journey Boards, I have praised all the members of Journey. I have also blamed all the members of Journey for their roles. The difference between many of us is that we embrace what we have in Journey.

[jrnyman28]

I think that I'm safe in saying that all the hate, as you call it is on the side of a few guys here. They would never say, to their face, what some of them post to the ladies.

Every year you say this and every year I tell you u are wrong. Just because you are a weak-kneeed sniveling sycophant in the real world, does not mean we all are. Yes, I would say everything I say here to ur face and in fact, more than likely I'd push you down a flight of stairs just for good measure.

Well TNC, I really think this is terrible! Honestly, I agree with most of your views about Journey, but this is a horrible post.

One perry poster has never posted a neg about the band and is probably one of the nicest posters here, and has been personally attacked way too often and it is obvious that the posters are only trying to break her down because of her gentleness.

Prove it. Show us. You're lying.

I am pretty sure I know exactly who HOTS is speaking of. And it is true that this person has done a great job of posting 'pro-Perry" statements in a civil manner while you have gotten rude, crude and offensive with her.

Perry hasn't felt the need to do anything but praise the guys and their time together. You might state that Neal and Jon have felt that they had to defend themselves because of what some fans post. Perry has been terribly maligned and I'm sure he's aware of what some fans say, but hasn't felt the need to slam his former bandmates.The perpetrator of a crime doesn't speak ill of others, he keeps his mouth shut and lays low until suspicions fade away.

Maybe that's because Perry knows he's the guy at fault.
Ever think of that?

That certainly could be very true. Or maybe Perry has simply ALWAYS been better with "PR". We all know he is a very shrewd, intelligent man.

Lots of the fans here criticize the band and feel that it is only their right.

Me included. So does Dave and Monker. And they always back it up, too. Unlike yourself, they don't adhere to a baseless hit and run posting methodology.

That is true as well. I, for one, would certainly be more willing to 'listen' to HOTS' and other's POVs if they were to truly back them up. Somehow though, when "we" criticize, "we" are attacked because suddenly "we" are not supporting Journey. Funny how HOTS will try to turn it around on "us"...but of course "they" are never doing that. "They " are never 'attacking' the band... "They" really act like only "they" have a reason to criticize.

[sadie65]

I am not saying that us guys are without fault. Lord knows I have my faults. And sometime we guys start stuff too, but in my opinion, Perry people are more negative toward the band than the other way_ERIC

I think in some cases that it doesn't matter who posts here. There have been attempts made by some of the pro-Perry people to engage in real discussion that have been treated poorly. By the same token, there have been enough posts made by others that don't have a point to make, merely to incite.

It's just a shame that the lines get blurred from real attempts. And yes, there have also been some truly out of line comments made by some who prefer the current lineup to no lineup.

Back to the bickering

[Andrew]

I'd like to comment on this.

Over the past few weeks I have seen a couple of the pro-perry people post some really good posts and they have certainly tried to be more open to discussion and the board itself has had a good tone.

Last week things started heading down the usual path and I'd say that a few of the supporters of current Journey have not been as willing to let the pro-perry posters have their say.
It's normally the other way around.

There remains 1 or 2 idiots - just a couple that never post anything constructive or uselful for any discussion, but aside from those I think with a little further effort, we can get a really good discussion and group going here again.

[ohsherrie]

Thanks for all of the supportive posts. You don't know how much it means to me.

I just want to say that I wasn't just complaining about the way the inflamatory and abusive posts were affecting me. I was really referring more to the effect they had had on the atmosphere of the entire board. Things seemed to be going pretty well, at least it seemed that way to me. We were having intelligent, coherent discussions about the band, both Classic and new. Then this attack was mounted for no apparent reason.

I know the behind the scenes assault on Andrew had a negative effect. No one on the board regrets that more than I do(except Andrew of course). All I can say is that it came from none of my friends that post on this board. However, the irrational attacks on Perry and what are being called "Perryloons"(that's one of the kinder terms)started before that. For all we know it may have been an instigating factor in the attack on Andrew, not that that excuses it by any means.



Abitaman(Eric),

If you'll go back through the posts for the last several weeks I think you'll find very few antagonistic posts by the Perryfans that post here, as compared to the number of hostile posts against Perry and his supporters.

I honestly don't understand why things have to be this way. We all should be able to post, or even argue, about our preferences without it leading to personal attacks against each other or the members of whichever version of the band we support.

[ohsherrie]

I'd like to comment on this.

Over the past few weeks I have seen a couple of the pro-perry people post some really good posts and they have certainly tried to be more open to discussion and the board itself has had a good tone.

Last week things started heading down the usual path and I'd say that a few of the supporters of current Journey have not been as willing to let the pro-perry posters have their say.
It's normally the other way around.

There remains 1 or 2 idiots - just a couple that never post anything constructive or uselful for any discussion, but aside from those I think with a little further effort, we can get a really good discussion and group going here again.

Thank you Andrew, I must have been posting at the same time you were because I didn't see your post. I think we can get something good going here if we can just get over some of the preconceived notions about each other.

[The_Noble_Cause]

However, the irrational attacks on Perry.

Show me one.
I defy you.