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Postby Jeremey » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:48 pm

Just finished watching the new DVD on our Dolby Digital/ Hi Def setup. Unreal. Just abosolutely unbelievable. The sound on this is incredible. From Steve Smith's drum solo to Perry's unhuman crystaline falsetto, the fidelity is amazing. I don't know how much post production processing was done on the mix, but Perry did say it went through ProTools, etc...Just wondering what kind of additional compression and juice was used because Perry's voice has NEVER sounded like this. I don't even want to make any comparisons to the show we saw Friday at HOB, but I don't think I would get any argument that no one will ever see a show like the one captured on DVD ever, ever again. Not from Perry, not from the current Journey lineup...It was absolute magic, like lightening in a bottle.
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Re: Houston DVD Unreal

Postby ohsherrie » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:50 pm

Jeremey wrote:Just finished watching the new DVD on our Dolby Digital/ Hi Def setup. Unreal. Just abosolutely unbelievable. The sound on this is incredible. From Steve Smith's drum solo to Perry's unhuman crystaline falsetto, the fidelity is amazing. I don't know how much post production processing was done on the mix, but Perry did say it went through ProTools, etc...Just wondering what kind of additional compression and juice was used because Perry's voice has NEVER sounded like this. I don't even want to make any comparisons to the show we saw Friday at HOB, but I don't think I would get any argument that no one will ever see a show like the one captured on DVD ever, ever again. Not from Perry, not from the current Journey lineup...It was absolute magic, like lightening in a bottle.


OMG, it's gonna be a LOOOOOOOOONG two weeks to wait until I can see this. :cry:
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Postby Marabelle » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:01 pm

exactly.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:32 pm

Well, great. I for one, am NOT buying this. Litrerally. keep your 20 bucks.

A concert is a concert. How the fuck can you call it live if you edit the thing till it's blue in the groin?

So Perry sounded great..big fucking deal. I have REAL boots where he sounds good, no, great, and I would rather have that than some mixed to the rafters concert.

Sorry, this Journey fan isn't biting. How many times do you need to hear DSB by Perry?

Fuck you Jeremy. When you sound as good as Augeri, call Neal, and try out for the fucking band. Write a fucking song. Stop being in a fucking tribute band. the nerve you have to call out Augeri makes me want to puke.
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Postby Marabelle » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:44 pm

oh. and you talk to your mother with that mouth.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:49 pm

Marabelle wrote:oh. and you talk to your mother with that mouth.


My mom is a bitch, and I don't talk to her. Next question, you fat hag.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:06 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Well, great. I for one, am NOT buying this. Litrerally. keep your 20 bucks.


I didn't get it either. But that's because I am strapped for cash. I am more interested in a ROR dvd.

Rock'ndeano wrote:A concert is a concert. How the fuck can you call it live if you edit the thing till it's blue in the groin?


I don't think Perry manipulated anything soundwise. Maybe just enhanced and sharpened? If so, there's nothing wrong with that.

Rock'ndeano wrote:Fuck you Jeremy. When you sound as good as Augeri, call Neal, and try out for the fucking band. Write a fucking song. Stop being in a fucking tribute band. the nerve you have to call out Augeri makes me want to puke.


Yikes! That's pretty harsh, however, not enitirely uncalled for.
Augeri sounded amazing night after night on this tour - the guy's in his mid-40's and still sounding almost like a young Perry-let's give the man his dues.
If u wanna make a valid juxtaposition, compare the Perry of today to the Augeri of today. Not the vocally peerless Perry of old. That guy died a long time ago.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:35 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Fuck you Jeremy. When you sound as good as Augeri, call Neal, and try out for the fucking band. Write a fucking song. Stop being in a fucking tribute band. the nerve you have to call out Augeri makes me want to puke.



Deano, this reply is UTTER BULLSHIT.

Any more like this and you'll be going on a holiday. I told you not to post when you have been drinking.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:01 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
I didn't get it either. But that's because I am strapped for cash. I am more interested in a ROR dvd.


I want both, but because they release these things at the end of the year I get them as gifts. :lol: Time to start bugging JDK about the ROR?
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:03 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Well, great. I for one, am NOT buying this. Litrerally. keep your 20 bucks.

A concert is a concert. How the fuck can you call it live if you edit the thing till it's blue in the groin?

So Perry sounded great..big fucking deal. I have REAL boots where he sounds good, no, great, and I would rather have that than some mixed to the rafters concert.

Sorry, this Journey fan isn't biting. How many times do you need to hear DSB by Perry?

Fuck you Jeremy. When you sound as good as Augeri, call Neal, and try out for the fucking band. Write a fucking song. Stop being in a fucking tribute band. the nerve you have to call out Augeri makes me want to puke.


Guess what, fuckface - I can use big words too! So why don't you suck my fucking balls and shut the fuck up. Fucking poser. Get a life, dickweed. Oh and as far as writing a song? Why don't you spend the $20 you'd normally spend on a weeks worth of porno and a bottle of Old English 800 and pickup a copy of Andrew's MelodicRock Compliation II. My song's on the second CD - You know, the one with the wanna-be hacks. Now sit down and shut the fuck up.
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Postby Jeremey » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:10 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Fuck you Jeremy. When you sound as good as Augeri, call Neal, and try out for the fucking band. Write a fucking song. Stop being in a fucking tribute band. the nerve you have to call out Augeri makes me want to puke.


Yikes! That's pretty harsh, however, not enitirely uncalled for.
Augeri sounded amazing night after night on this tour - the guy's in his mid-40's and still sounding almost like a young Perry-let's give the man his dues.
If u wanna make a valid juxtaposition, compare the Perry of today to the Augeri of today. Not the vocally peerless Perry of old. That guy died a long time ago.


Okay, I'll bite. How is this not totally uncalled for, and where the hell did I call out Augeri on this tour? You could look up my exact words in my thread but I think they went something like Augeri sounded great and nailed every song. So tell me, where am I calling out Augeri?
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:48 pm

Ok guys, lets calm down, we are on the same team here, JOURNEY fans.

The dvd id great, and a lot of you know I have a lot of boots, from both areas of the band. But you have to give Perry his due, He nailed this, back then in concert, and now in production. He is the voice of Rock.
Augeri, is awesome, and getting better, I would take Augeri over Perry. But in his day (which is no longer around) he was IT!
So come on, I like the dvd and I will be playing it for some time, but I am not living in the past, just revisiting it-ERIC
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Re: Houston DVD Unreal

Postby Eric » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:55 pm

Media Play had a zillion of these...and GOOD NEWS they had a ton of the 2001 DVD too. Actually a nice marketing move for once.

I too was astounded by the sound. The 5.1 on this sounded way better than the 5.1 for the Journey 2001 DVD. I don't think Shirley has the vocals coming from the center like I like.

Now, the picture was pretty subpar IMO. I also have an HD setup, and it is possible that my Upconvert DVD player actually hurt the picture, however I thought the whole show was way too dark and sometimes very grainy. I do have a DLP monitor, and dark scenes are an issue with that technology I should point out....and there was no spectacular stage setup with lighting for this show.

The packaging was nice. You open the booklet and there overlapped sits the DVD and CD. The color scheme is good and the JOURNEY is the same as the 2001 DVD and the GH videos piece of shit DVD. There is a 16 page color book that comes on the inside too.

The bonus features are solid and definitely better than nothing (2001 DVD). The interviews are nice to have from that era, although I have to say this is the first time I've ever basically heard them say Rolie was kinda pushed out ("We needed a musical change")....my thought was he didn't want to continue? There is a dopey slide show, and the original ending which probably should have been part of the regular DVD because it plays Party's over live. The original commercial for the show is on this bonus content too...so that is kinda neat to watch once or twice.

Now, the content. It was great, but I found myself bored sometimes. We've heard some of these songs so much now that Deano is actually right...do I need to hear DSB again. I fear I will be bored when the 2005 DVD is released too. I couldn't feel the vibe that was probably there that night is the thing. Part of the problem is that it was more like watching a movie than watching a concert. The songs would end with the video is slow-mo sometimes. The 2001 DVD felt way more real to me. I don't think Perry fans who haven't gone to shows the last 8 years will be bored at all though.

It is super to have Keep on Runnin', Where were You and Mother, Father on DVD though I must say. I liked Perry's intro to Stone in Love and I loved the outro to Where Were You. I do have to say that I think the current band performs some of these songs better now......in particular Where Were You. They jammed the piss out of that this year. And I think other than the opening, Stone in Love sounds better now too. Perry owns DSB and Open Arms BUT...the 2001 DVD version of DSB was actually more entertaining with Cain and Augeri's duet and the crowd sing-along of "DON'T STOP".

Bottom Line: For $14.99 this is a must have for ALL Journey fans....and Perry fans will be sleeping with this disc for a good week after buying it.

I hope we see a DVD from every tour eventually. May not seem like a hot idear now, but in 30 years we will cherish it.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:56 am

I agree with Eric. The sound is amazing, but the picture quality is subpar, esp. compared to the 2001 DVD. But that is to be expected due to the new DVD being recorded in 1981. There is only so much new technology can fix. But the picture is more than acceptable.

I don't buy anyone's reasoning for not buying this DVD. If you love Journey, this is the ultimate prize. The greatest concert I have ever seen.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:57 am

NealIsGod wrote: The greatest concert I have ever seen.


That's quite an endorsement.
Best concert EVER?
No joke?
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
NealIsGod wrote: The greatest concert I have ever seen.


That's quite an endorsement.
Best concert EVER?
No joke?


Did I stutter? :wink:

Yes, TNC. Of course, Journey is my favorite band, so I am biased. But Jeremey hit the nail on the head when he said it was like capturing lightning in a bottle. I have the concert from the second time it aired on MTV on VHS, and it has always been my prized Journey possession. To have it on DVD now is fucking incredible.
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Postby Marabelle » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:09 am

i can beat that...11.99 at Best Buy!

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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:40 am

I noticed that Perry, in the original concert that aired on MTV, says "We are filming a concert for M-Television", yet on the DVD he dubbed "MTV" in place of "M-Television". That's it, the DVD sucks now.. :P
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:47 am

NealIsGod wrote:I noticed that Perry, in the original concert that aired on MTV, says "We are filming a concert for M-Television", yet on the DVD he dubbed "MTV" in place of "M-Television". That's it, the DVD sucks now.. :P


Well now, aren't we just getting a little silly here? :wink:
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:53 am

ohsherrie wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I noticed that Perry, in the original concert that aired on MTV, says "We are filming a concert for M-Television", yet on the DVD he dubbed "MTV" in place of "M-Television". That's it, the DVD sucks now.. :P


Well now, aren't we just getting a little silly here? :wink:


Yeah, have to keep a sense of humor! Just an interesting dubbing. I guess Perry thought "M-Television" sounded nerdy. MTV was only 3 months old, I think, when this concert was filmed, so I guess "MTV" wasn't the generally accepted nickname for the network yet.

Man, I loved MTV back then. It sucks now.
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Postby PROPERRY » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:11 am

I got my DVD yesterday, and it is FANTASTIC!!! :D

Steve Perry's singing & performance is AMAZING!!! As well as Steve Smith, Neal, Ross & Jon too, they ALL gave EXCEPTIONAL performances!!!! These guys should ALL feel really, really proud of their performance at this concert!

I didn't see them at this Houston concert , But I saw them in Dallas & that was equally an exceptional concert too.

All I can say is that I really love this DVD, I felt just like I was sitting right there in Houston watching the concert! :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Postby artinis1 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:39 am

from nick,
no need to fight here, look if you are a journey fan, you have to get this dvd, it is incredible, yes i have the bootlegs, but the quality of this thing for it's age is unreal, perry did not doctor it up but remaster it, this is truly a great release for this band, and i will still buy the dvd from the current tour whenever they put it out, but the great thing about this dvd is you get the cd with it, i just got back from a long drive and listened to the whole cd, i can't say enough good things about it and yes please release a live dvd from raised on radio and the captured 80 japan show would be the ultimate, again you really can't criticize this release unless you hate perry, this is a job well done, and if were only going to get past releases like this from him so be it,
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:48 am

artinis1 wrote:from nick,
no need to fight here, look if you are a journey fan, you have to get this dvd, it is incredible, yes i have the bootlegs, but the quality of this thing for it's age is unreal, perry did not doctor it up but remaster it, this is truly a great release for this band, and i will still buy the dvd from the current tour whenever they put it out, but the great thing about this dvd is you get the cd with it, i just got back from a long drive and listened to the whole cd, i can't say enough good things about it and yes please release a live dvd from raised on radio and the captured 80 japan show would be the ultimate, again you really can't criticize this release unless you hate perry, this is a job well done, and if were only going to get past releases like this from him so be it,


I'm sure the cd is much better than the wretched Greatest Hits Live.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:52 am

Is Frontiers and Beyond on DVD? That is interesting, but can't touch this new DVD.
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Postby amaron » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:17 am

NealIsGod wrote:Is Frontiers and Beyond on DVD? That is interesting, but can't touch this new DVD.


Yes, and I have it if anyone is desperate for it. :P
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:00 am

NealIsGod wrote:I noticed that Perry, in the original concert that aired on MTV, says "We are filming a concert for M-Television", yet on the DVD he dubbed "MTV" in place of "M-Television". That's it, the DVD sucks now.. :P


My point exactly. Why change it? It is NOT genuine. And by the way, TNC help me on this, didn't they overdubb Augeri ion the 2001 disc too?


It's fakeness..sorry.

If this were ok, The Whitehouse could edit all the miscues that W says hourly, and make him look like a genius.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:19 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:If this were ok, The Whitehouse could edit all the miscues that W says hourly, and make him look like a genius.


I am sure they do as much as they can.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:26 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:If this were ok, The Whitehouse could edit all the miscues that W says hourly, and make him look like a genius.


I am sure they do as much as they can.


If thats true, either he really is a dumbass or they aren't doing all they can! Hear his speech last night in Japan?..

"Talkin' about old friends...hehehe..I want the people of Japan to know that despite our warred past, that a war has huge as the Vietnam War, cannot seperate true friends now."


Um...Mr President, wasn't that WW2???
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:34 am

I think it's an indication in Perry's own interviews that the new technology has enhanced the sound - Not changed the recording in any way. But let's face it, the recording technology of 2005 compared to what MTV had available in 1981 is like comparing a Model T Ford to a 2005 Ferrari. In the UJB interview, when he was talking about "Open Arms," my take on that was that he finally got it to sound the way he had always wanted it to sound, meaning previous technology just never did the recording justice.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:36 am

I have to come correct...

I heard the sound clips, and I went off and bought it. Just TOO good...Awe inspiring. You were right Jeremy...sorry bro.
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