FAITHFULLY

[Rockindeano]

So we have Sherrie and Lori, skirting the question I posed.

Sherrie saying what's wrong with strongarming when the end results are a great result....I ask her to defend the "I never felt part of the band nonsense," and poof! nothing..Hope it fades away. It is so easy to win with you Heads,....We have facts and truth on our side..I simply have to plug in the answers to the arguments..You people need to spin real fast, hit and run, and hope I don't follow up on it...Nope, not happening.

[ohsherrie]

So we have Sherrie and Lori, skirting the question I posed.

Sherrie saying what's wrong with strongarming when the end results are a great result....I ask her to defend the "I never felt part of the band nonsense," and poof! nothing..Hope it fades away. It is so easy to win with you Heads,....We have facts and truth on our side..I simply have to plug in the answers to the arguments..You people need to spin real fast, hit and run, and hope I don't follow up on it...Nope, not happening.

I have nothing to defend Dean. I told you what I thought about the "I never felt part of the band" comment. If you want me to go into a complete analysis of the way I see the situation I certainly can, but I think most people would be bored by it.

You have NO facts. You have what you CONSIDER to be facts. You consider them as such because they support your opinions. NONE OF US HAVE FACTS. All any of us has are opinions. If we had the facts this discussion would most likely be over.

[PROPERRY]

So we have Sherrie and Lori, skirting the question I posed.

Sherrie saying what's wrong with strongarming when the end results are a great result....I ask her to defend the "I never felt part of the band nonsense," and poof! nothing..Hope it fades away. It is so easy to win with you Heads,....We have facts and truth on our side..I simply have to plug in the answers to the arguments..You people need to spin real fast, hit and run, and hope I don't follow up on it...Nope, not happening.

Deano,

I don't know what you mean that I skirted your question, since I didn't even know you were asking me a question. Your question is not something I can answer because obvisiously I'm not Steve Perry. I'm sure he must of had his reasons for saying what he said, but to expect me to know the answer to that is silly on your part.

Lori

[ohsherrie]

NMT, I would really like to respond to your post. I've tried several times. The problem I'm having is that your post sounds so accusatory that any replies I've tried to make come out sounding that way too. I'm just not going there. All I'll say is that "steal" is a very strongly accusatory word. I wish you hadn't used it.

[arden]

The quote was used twice in the Director's Cut. Once at the beginning of the show in response to the difficulty of breaking into an established band that had already formed a bond and once at the end of the show...for, I believe, dramatic effect as that was certainly the result. It clearly had to have been taken out of context at least one of those times.

Neal, Cain, Smith, Valory and Herbie's expressing shock at the comment has nothing at all to do with the editorial decision to use the quote twice. They were all interviewed individually.

I think that quote was edited out of context in the BTM. Earlier in the show they had been talking about how hard it was for Steve to break into the close bond that the band had formed.

Bullshit, bullshit and bullshit.


If that were taken out of context, then Neal, Cain, Smith, Valory, Herbie wouldn't have expressd SHOCK at the comment. NO way Perry would have let that be released if VH1 were to miconstrue the timing in order to make a larger uproar..

This is getting comical..

Congratulations, Sherrie, you have Cheneyitis..spin spin spin..

[r@y]

Err...some songwriting 101 ( If I am wrong, someone please correct ) :

1. As far as sequence is concerned, there is no hard and fast rule about the credits. The common misconceptions are :

- A/B/C whereby A writes the lyrics, B & C writes the music and vice-versa.

- A/B/C whereby ABC all write the lyrics and band written music.

- A/B/C whereby A writes say, 80%, B 10%, C 10% and band writes the music.

( I could go on and on and on....)

The above are all misconceptions. They are not true. Credits are given to the ones responsible for the conception of the song.

But then, there was this keyboardist ( I forget his name) from a band ( also forgot the name ) that made the hit "Whiter Shade of Pale"....he was the one who apparently came up with the haunting tune that starts off the song and he was not credited at all..! ( For info, ALL versions of WSOP ( Eurythmics, Micheal Bolton, to name a few ) after the original had this tune in all of them )

Probably because it was waaay back in the day ( again, cant remember the &^%$ year...! ), the band and the keyboard player just never made a big deal of it.

But if it were to happen today, the keyboardist has the right to want his name included in the credits and the band would also rightly do that as well.

I also heard about an Eagle member claiming that HC was his tune mostly and DH and GF just took a ride on it. Big lawsuit..or something like that...

Your comments are welcome....

Cheers.

Ray

[NoMoreTails]

NMT, I would really like to respond to your post. I've tried several times. The problem I'm having is that your post sounds so accusatory that any replies I've tried to make come out sounding that way too. I'm just not going there. All I'll say is that "steal" is a very strongly accusatory word. I wish you hadn't used it.

I wasn't looking for a reply from you, I just wanted to point out that it is not my opinion that he stole credit, just that I think he may have gotten credit for insignificant contributions on some occasions.
If he had gotten Faithfully for his solo album, it obviously would not actually have been stealing, Jon would have had to agree to it of course. I just wrote that Perry tried to steal it as an example of an obvious misuse of the word, as you misused in in your post that Perry had been accused here of stealing credits, which I don't think is correct.Evidently you found my incorrect usage of the word as offensive as I did yours.