Tell me about: Dream After Dream

by **Big J** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:01 am

Listening to this in the car today...and I know very little about it. Here's what I know:

Released 1980
Soundtrack to some Japanese movie, I think

That's about it...tell me more. Was this the last thing done by Gregg Rolie in Journey? Any other details would be appreciated too...just never hear much about this one.

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:10 am

I believe it was recorded while the band was on Tour in Japan for Departure. I guess that would mean it IS the last studio recording by Gregg Rolie with Journey. Neal's dad contributed much of the string arrangements to the material. The movie is supposed to be very cheesy!

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:34 am

Bet you don't have it in the car by tomorrow :wink:

by **Big J** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:38 am

LOL, nah, I will. Short drive and no traffic. I've heard it before...most of it's pretty lackluster...just knew so little about it.

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:37 pm

The movie is severely cheesy, even by 80s standards. In fact, I bet the band is embarrassed by it now. There's some decent music from it if you just listen to the music without thinking "Journey",

but it's overall, not great.

by **brandonx76** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:50 pm

I love the fusion "punk" thing they do on first track, "Destiny" - that part "rocks!".

Also, "Little Girl" is a great Departure-sounding cut.

Alas, most of the record is forgetable, and annoying.

-Brandon

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:56 pm

I agree, Little Girl is good, it sounds like Journey, and Destiny is a good guitar track, it just doesn't sound like Journey as I know it.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:58 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:I believe it was recorded while the band was on Tour in Japan for Departure. I guess that would mean it IS the last studio recording by Gregg Rolie with Journey. Neal's dad contributed much of the string arrangements to the material. The movie is supposed to be very cheesy!

The LP I have shows J. Cain on keys. But does not sound like his work-ERIC

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:01 pm

Abitaman wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I believe it was recorded while the band was on Tour in Japan for Departure. I guess that would mean it IS the last studio recording by Gregg Rolie with Journey. Neal's dad contributed much of the string arrangements to the material. The movie is supposed to be very cheesy!

The LP I have shows J. Cain on keys. But does not sound like his work-ERIC

Well now that's strange. I always assumed it was done before Jon joined the band, but I never really knew the details.

by **Monker** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:09 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I believe it was recorded while the band was on Tour in Japan for Departure. I guess that would mean it IS the last studio recording by Gregg Rolie with Journey. Neal's dad contributed much of the string arrangements to the material. The movie is supposed to be very cheesy!

The LP I have shows J. Cain on keys. But does not sound like his work-ERIC

Well now that's strange. I always assumed it was done before Jon joined the band, but I never really knew the details.

As far as I know, Cain isn't on it. There was an interview where Gregg said he wished they had saved "Little Girl" for a different album, because it was such a good song...I think it could have easily fit on Escape or Frontiers, and been another huge hit.

There WERE touring with the Baby's...so it's always POSSIBLE. I'm not sure if the Babys went to Japan with them tho. I'd almost have to go check my CD or vinyl...but I don't feel like digging them up right now.

by **NealIsGod** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:22 pm

I have the Japanese import LP which has a picture of the band, the one with Steve Perry releasing a dove. Rolie is in the picture.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:29 am

There are some good Journey instrumentals and the astonishing ballad Little Girl also appearing in better form on Time3.

After years of searching, I'm syched to finally have it. A good pal did me a favor, you know who you are :wink:

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:00 am

The Rape has intense musical attributes..

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:59 am

Damn, you're Freudian. You just wanted to reference that song somehow, dincha?!?! :mrgreen:

by **DreamAfterDream** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:07 am

I found that on cassette in 1990 and it confused the hell out of me. I'd never seen it listed in any discographies anywhere. Wasn't until the box set came out I found out what the deal was. "Destiny" is a cool enough song, and Neal plays some great stuff on "Moon Theme" and "When The Love Has Gone" but all in all, it doesn't really resemble Journey.

And the front cover of the cassette lists the second to last song as "The Rafe" for some reason. Anyone notice the bit of "Conversations" in that song?

by **DreamAfterDream** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:08 am

I found that on cassette in 1990 and it confused the hell out of me. I'd never seen it listed in any discographies anywhere. Wasn't until the box set came out I found out what the deal was. "Destiny" is a cool enough song, and Neal plays some great stuff on "Moon Theme" and "When The Love Has Gone" but all in all, it doesn't really resemble Journey.

And the front cover of the cassette lists the second to last song as "The Rafe" for some reason. Anyone notice the bit of "Conversations" in that song?

by **sngrchk04** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:23 am

From the "Time 3 Box Set" Booklet:

"In Japan, following five sold-out shows in Osaka and Tokyo, Journey engaged in another unconventional experiment destined never to be heard in the U.S. The band adjourned to Tokyo's Shinonomachi Studios, where Journey spent two weeks recording the soundtrack to "Dream After Dream", the debut film by Kenzo Takada, Japan's most popular designer. The almost all instrumental album, released only in Japan, captured Journey improvising on bits of melodies and phrases guitarist Schon supplied. Rolie found himself slamming out dissonant chords in front of a movie screen, ad libbing background music to a desert scene.

Matthew Schon, the guitarist's father, flew over to supply orchestrations and strings and horns were added to various pieces. Perry contributed vocals on several tracks, including "Little Girl". The entire project showed Journey in an unvarnished way the band hadn't dared since the very early days. In Japan the band was stitching together a nearly abstract tapestry of sound, confident and colorful in ways less creative musicians could never have managed."

by **yandtguy** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:36 am

Dream After Dream is a fantastic soundtrack, and in order to appreicate it, you have to look at it as a soundtrack. The music was never meant to be presented in an album format.

As to songs, "Destiny," "Sandcastles," and "Little Girl" are the three songs with vocals. What is interesting about the songs is that it gives listeners an opportunity to hear the band perform songs that are similar to those found on Departure, but they are presented with the freedom of arrangement the band enjoyed on their first 3 albums, and to some extent on Infinity.

As this music served as background music for scenes in the movie, the rest of the songs are instrumental. What makes these songs important is that we hear Perry-era Journey tackling several different styles of music which shows how versatile the band truly was.

I love the vocal songs on the album so much that I would recommend getting the album for these songs. As to the instrumental songs, the band did play "When The Love Is Gone" live on their '81 tour (at least they did in Japan), and it would have fit perfectly on Neal's Electric World album.

Greg

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:45 am

It's definately no MEANT to be listened to with the expectation of it being Departure 1 and 1/2 or PreESC4P3.
You get more out of it if you listen to it for what it is. JRNY scoring/accompanying a film.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:06 am

yandtguy wrote:As to songs, "Destiny," "Sandcastles," and "Little Girl" are the three songs with vocals. What is interesting about the songs is that it gives listeners an opportunity to hear the band perform songs that are similar to those found on Departure, but they are presented with the freedom of arrangement the band enjoyed on their first 3 albums, and to some extent on Infinity.

Greg

Good post Greg. I often refer to the pre-Perry sound WITH Perry singing. How cool is THAT!?

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:14 am

It has the greatest Journey ballad of all time, Little Girl. That alone is reason to have it.

by **DreamAfterDream** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:00 am

Just curious, does anyone out there actually [ihave[/i] a copy of this movie?

by **sngrchk04** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:04 am

DreamAfterDream wrote:Just curious, does anyone out there actually have a copy of this movie?

Hey there...

I had a cassette copy in college (late 80s) - it was STOLEN

oops; my bad :oops:

I thought you asked about the music only

DUH! :shock:

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:04 am

I have heard that you would not want it...pretty cheesy. And it might not be subtitled.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:48 am

Yeah, it looks pretty cheesy in the promo shots in the album.

MR

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