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Postby perryfaithful » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:35 am

"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:42 am

Talk about a difference of perspective. As much as I think ROCK STAR was a success, it is a total commercialization of a "product". INXS made a great move from a promotional standpoint. Whereas Journey went out and found the right man for the job on their own. Journey stayed true to the music, and doing it on their own. INXS used the media, created hype, but the product is a sell-out by writing done almost entirely outside the band.
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Re: "A Faded" rock Band...Journey mention

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:43 am

perryfaithful wrote:...never a shortage these days


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/li ... 356377.htm


Who gives a fuck?
Critics have NEVER liked Journey. Never.
Why does this always come as a suprise to you, PF?
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Re: "A Faded" rock Band...Journey mention

Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:43 am

perryfaithful wrote:...never a shortage these days


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/li ... 356377.htm




What's worse? A faded rock band privately replacing its lead singer with a sound-alike whose name even rhymes with the departed member the way Journey did when Steve Perry bolted and was replaced by clone Steve Augeri?



What's worse, a columnist who hasn't the slightest idea that the "clone" is pretty fucking good in his own right?

Nice try at upsetting the apple cart PF..Not quite.

Try again......


That's all the Heads can do...is copy and paste an article where Perry is spoken of in one sentence..That's it..Pretty pathetic. Meanwhile, we fans of the band will continue to go to concerts and buy NEW cd's.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:43 am

jrnyman28 wrote: but the product is a sell-out by writing done almost entirely outside the band.


Wow. Sounds alot like 'Arrival'.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:46 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote: but the product is a sell-out by writing done almost entirely outside the band.


Wow. Sounds alot like 'Arrival'.


Dude, you are losing me more and more daily. WTF are you talking about?
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Re: "A Faded" rock Band...Journey mention

Postby PROPERRY » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:54 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:...never a shortage these days


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/li ... 356377.htm




What's worse? A faded rock band privately replacing its lead singer with a sound-alike whose name even rhymes with the departed member the way Journey did when Steve Perry bolted and was replaced by clone Steve Augeri?



What's worse, a columnist who hasn't the slightest idea that the "clone" is pretty fucking good in his own right?

Nice try at upsetting the apple cart PF..Not quite.

Try again......


That's all the Heads can do...is copy and paste an article where Perry is spoken of in one sentence..That's it..Pretty pathetic. Meanwhile, we fans of the band will continue to go to concerts and buy NEW cd's.




Oh come on Deano, ( not trying to give you a hard time) but we just got that EXCELLENT Houston concert DVD/CD to treasure forever!!! :D

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:57 am

Good.

Now, until 20 more years go by without anything new from Perry, what are you going to do?

Bash bash bash.
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Postby brandonx76 » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:02 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote: but the product is a sell-out by writing done almost entirely outside the band.


Wow. Sounds alot like 'Arrival'.


Dude, you are losing me more and more daily. WTF are you talking about?


Didn't Ted Nugent write the entire Arrival album? I may have my facts a bit mixed up.

(j/k)

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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:23 pm

Hey, PF didn't write the article, or comment on it. Don't kill the messenger. This could make an interesting thread if you guys would really look at the message rather than the nic of the person who posted it.

Which way really IS more advantageous?
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Postby Marabelle » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:31 pm

that is interesting...he says Steve A. is sound alike and has a similiar sounding name and all; does it make any difference really if he has the talent to sing the songs. it freaked me out a bit when i first heard him; but he does a great voice; so i'm not complaining.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:43 pm

For what it's worth, I think INXS cheapened themselves beyond redemption by cashing in on the American Idol craze for this show. The new singer isn't that bad, but it's just cheesey to do something like that.
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Postby Marabelle » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:00 pm

for the older "rock" fan, i think it was viewed as cheapening the band; but for the younger audience not much thought was used in making a clear choice if it was cheap or not. there were some good singers and some bad singers; sexy singers and not so sexy singers and you got to see them living the rock star life and singing on stage. that was kind of interesting.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:08 pm

ohsherrie wrote:Hey, PF didn't write the article, or comment on it. Don't kill the messenger. This could make an interesting thread if you guys would really look at the message rather than the nic of the person who posted it.

Which way really IS more advantageous?


No no and no.

How many articles EXACTLY like this have we ALL read in the last year;month? Same shit everytime, yet she finds it relevent to post it here. Exactly what is the point?
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:43 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Good.

Now, until 20 more years go by without anything new from Perry, what are you going to do?

Bash bash bash.



Deano,

I wasn't bashing the band.

And hey, if 20 more years go by without anything new from Perrry, that is alright, I'll just continue to keep on listening & enjoying ALL the spectacular music that Perry has already given to the fans. :D

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:59 pm

PROPERRY wrote:
Deano,

I wasn't bashing the band.

And hey, if 20 more years go by without anything new from Perrry, that is alright, I'll just continue to keep on listening & enjoying ALL the spectacular music that Perry has already given to the fans. :D


Goddam..THAT sounds fantastic.....

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:39 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Dude, you are losing me more and more daily. WTF are you talking about?


'Arrival' used an inordinate amount of outside writers. A first for a Journey record. If that's ok for you, fine.
Personally, I prefer my band to actually be a band.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:49 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Dude, you are losing me more and more daily. WTF are you talking about?


'Arrival' used an inordinate amount of outside writers. A first for a Journey record. If that's ok for you, fine.
Personally, I prefer my band to actually be a band.


Inordinate amount? I don't have the liners in front of me...But come on..So Blades wrote or helped out on a song or two.

Hell, Generations has outside help...

You criticize every detail about everything...
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Postby fred_journeyman » Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:59 pm

Two things about that article struck me...

1) The "fact" that the band privately replaced...(privately?)
2) Perry bolted...

Both concepts are really amusing. I didn't know you could privately replace the lead singer of a high-profile band (as if no one would notice!) such as Journey and I also wasn't aware that Perry had bolted from the band! Jon asked Perry's permission to be allowed to go on and we all know what transpired. Perry didn't bolt. He was simply waiting...for...something. :wink:

In the end, I have to agree with TNC...who really DOES give a flying...er...frat about what some critic says somewhere?

Oh and Ted Nugent did not write Arrival...the songwriting team of Her & Bee did. Everyone knows that for God's sake. :)

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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:03 pm

Ted was probably busy in Michigan skinning wild boar and raping razorbacks...That fucker is out there...
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:09 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Inordinate amount? I don't have the liners in front of me...


Lucky for you I DO have the liner notes in front of me.

Rock'ndeano wrote:But come on..So Blades wrote or helped out on a song or two.


Out of a total of 15 songs there was outside help involved on a whopping 13 of them. You're fastly becoming as ideologically driven as the 'Loons.

Rock'ndeano wrote:Hell, Generations has outside help...


Hardly any. There was outside help on maybe two songs. BIG difference.

Rock'ndeano wrote:You criticize every detail about everything...


And more and more you're becoming a submissive BT brown shirt and choosing to criticize nothing at all.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:12 pm

fred_journeyman wrote: I didn't know you could privately replace the lead singer of a high-profile band (as if no one would notice!)


I was wondering the same thing. Apparently the press releases promulgating Augeri's inclusion into the group never made it to this guy.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:25 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Ted was probably busy in Michigan skinning wild boar and raping razorbacks...That fucker is out there...


Don't get me started on Nugent... right, Angie? :wink:
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:04 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Dude, you are losing me more and more daily. WTF are you talking about?


'Arrival' used an inordinate amount of outside writers. A first for a Journey record. If that's ok for you, fine.
Personally, I prefer my band to actually be a band.


While Arrival did use more outside writers than any other Journey album, it was still not to the same capacity as it appears to be on Switch. Now I am basing this on what the writer said, I do not have any info, but he made it sound (to me) like the songs were submitted to the band and they recorded them (maybe adding something to them). There is a difference with Journey who actually sat down and wrote with other writers. Now, the other thing I am not aware of, is the wrting structure in INXS. I got the impression that the keyboard/guitar player does most of their songwriting. But if Michael was a large part of their writing then it would make sense to have some outside help. After all, it makes sense that Neal and Jon looked for some help writing (not that they really needed it) since they were sort of use to writing with a third person whom was no longer there. However, I also agree that Sony probably wanted to get a certain 'accessible' sound to the material so they wanted some outside help...in the same way that Switch was commercialized. There are similarities, just not to the same extreme.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:09 am

ohsherrie wrote:Hey, PF didn't write the article, or comment on it. Don't kill the messenger. This could make an interesting thread if you guys would really look at the message rather than the nic of the person who posted it.

Which way really IS more advantageous?


Ohsherrie, you know that the sole reason PF posted this article was because it says something derogatory about Journey's current lineup...

You are not the type who would be fooling themselves into believing there was no "message" behind that post. I hate the word agenda, but this is pretty much a clear cut example (based on her history) of just that!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:12 am

ohsherrie wrote:For what it's worth, I think INXS cheapened themselves beyond redemption by cashing in on the American Idol craze for this show. The new singer isn't that bad, but it's just cheesey to do something like that.


I actually think it was a very successful and smart thing for the band to do from a promotional standpoint. And I also think they made the right choice. JD sounds incredibly similar to Michael on some of the new material, but can also sound like himself. He needs to learn some stage antics, his performances (1 song at a time) already look the same. But I sure hope INXS keep him around for another album, one that they all work on! Unfortuantely, using the "reality show" route leads to cultural success and cultural success fades pretty fast in this day and age. You become a fad...
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Postby Jeremey » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:And more and more you're becoming a submissive BT brown shirt and choosing to criticize nothing at all.


If that was the case, then Deano's posts would begin resembling something like this:

A Big "Thank You!" To My Friends At Melodicrock.com!

Like so many of the magical souls who dwell amongst these forums, MelodicRock.Com has come to mean so much more than just an 'online forum'. It is here that I find sanctuary, lust, mild malaise, and I guess just an overall dull ache down in my lower back...I guess that could be kidney stones. Or maybe my appendix. I hope it's not my appendix. Or kidney stones for that matter. But anyway, it has also been the place where I have been moved to tears of both joy and sadness, enraged with anger, overcome by milky emotion dripping from my man breasts. Like so many of you, I became aware of and fell in love with this band via the Armeggedon soundtrack, and never once since that time has any other band replaced Journey's place at the top of my list. Except for that summer of 1987 when Samantha Fox's "I Wanna Have Some Fun" ruled the airwaves. However, the last couple of years have undoubtedly been the pinnacle of my love and appreciation for this band due mostly to the existence of MelodicRock.Com. It is here that I discovered that indeed there are others who love this band as much as I do. It is here that I can find out anything I've ever wanted to know about them, because hardly anything about them is posted at their official site. It is here that I have found people who are caring and sincere, and don't mind it if I touch my peepee publically. It is here that I have found the kind of people who like to eat Frosted Mini Wheats directly from coffee mugs exactly the way I do, especially when driving down the San Bernadino freeway at 3 in the morning, crying big 'ol tears of human kindness while listening to "Butterfly" turned up to 11 on the 'ol Audiovox. It is here that there are others who understand exactly what it sounds like when puppy dogs purr and kitty cats snuggle. To Neal, Ross, Jon, Deen and Steve, I honestly don't know of a way to express to you the undying gratitude for writing songs while I touched myself deeply for most of my life. Praise be to you, and to our Lord and Savior, amen!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:21 am

I just got a little vomit in my mouth!

But so funny!!:lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:23 am

Jeremey,

Could you please speak in clearer words? WTF did you just say?

You like to touch yourself to Journey songs? Dude, I love the band more than anyone, but I have yet to feed the geese to Butterfly. I love Faithfully too, but you don't see me tuggin root outdside Starbucks listening to it. My ex wasn't begging for Guy Gravvy when Seperate Ways came on.. Or asking me for prick paste when DSB was on KLOS....

Jeremey, are you saying your man tube gets rigid when Believe comes on?


Hahahaha

Nice post dude.. I still have no idea what Butterfly, touching yourself, and driving down the 10 at 3AM have in common...
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:24 am

Jeremey wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:And more and more you're becoming a submissive BT brown shirt and choosing to criticize nothing at all.


If that was the case, then Deano's posts would begin resembling something like this:

A Big "Thank You!" To My Friends At Melodicrock.com!

Like so many of the magical souls who dwell amongst these forums, MelodicRock.Com has come to mean so much more than just an 'online forum'. It is here that I find sanctuary, lust, mild malaise, and I guess just an overall dull ache down in my lower back...I guess that could be kidney stones. Or maybe my appendix. I hope it's not my appendix. Or kidney stones for that matter. But anyway, it has also been the place where I have been moved to tears of both joy and sadness, enraged with anger, overcome by milky emotion dripping from my man breasts. Like so many of you, I became aware of and fell in love with this band via the Armeggedon soundtrack, and never once since that time has any other band replaced Journey's place at the top of my list. Except for that summer of 1987 when Samantha Fox's "I Wanna Have Some Fun" ruled the airwaves. However, the last couple of years have undoubtedly been the pinnacle of my love and appreciation for this band due mostly to the existence of MelodicRock.Com. It is here that I discovered that indeed there are others who love this band as much as I do. It is here that I can find out anything I've ever wanted to know about them, because hardly anything about them is posted at their official site. It is here that I have found people who are caring and sincere, and don't mind it if I touch my peepee publically. It is here that I have found the kind of people who like to eat Frosted Mini Wheats directly from coffee mugs exactly the way I do, especially when driving down the San Bernadino freeway at 3 in the morning, crying big 'ol tears of human kindness while listening to "Butterfly" turned up to 11 on the 'ol Audiovox. It is here that there are others who understand exactly what it sounds like when puppy dogs purr and kitty cats snuggle. To Neal, Ross, Jon, Deen and Steve, I honestly don't know of a way to express to you the undying gratitude for writing songs while I touched myself deeply for most of my life. Praise be to you, and to our Lord and Savior, amen!


Good lord..u cut and pasted that, didn't you?
Those people over there make me retch.

My point about 'Arrival' is valid nonetheless, and I don't need Deano jumping down my throat trying to discredit every non-positive remark I care to make.
If he's gonna pull that shit, he can join the blind fanatical legions over at BT.
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