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Postby Andrew » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:55 pm

I've said before....I have no reason to know why, as I'm never told why...but my bud in Canada who reports for BW&BK got a 50 minute Perry interview....

I'll get him to pass all details on ASAP....but my latest request for an interview met with a 'perhaps during a press day in January'....

But he did this interview this weekend. So again I am left wondering if and when I will be able to do an interview.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:11 am

:?: And what kind of questions would you ask Steve Perry, Andrew? He probably wouldn't answer most of the questions we'd really like clarified anyway.....for instance...

Would you ask him WHY it took him 9 years to decide all of a sudden he wanted to do another JOURNEY album (Trial By Fire).

After recording Trial By Fire, why was there little communication between you and the band concerning your injury?

What are your thoughts on Journey's latest album, Generations?
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Postby Marabelle » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:28 am

Well Mr. Jester that's why he wouldn't talk with you. It's a question/answer not a debate. Hard ball questions are rarely
asked during interviews. Give him something to work with. You
don't confront people during interviews.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:18 am

If you do get to interview him, Andrew, would you please ask him if he'll show you his scar? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:47 am

Marabelle, hardball questions are asked in an interview. Maybe you should start listening to or watching real reporting...

Personally Andrew, I don't know why the hell you care so much. Perry is a dot in the rear view mirror. If he wants to be a little baby, and woe me woe me, fuck him.

I would rather corner that stickman Azoff, and threaten him with death if I didn't get my answers...
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:03 am

Interview Herbie Herbert instead.
It'd be very apropo considering its Journey's 30th anniversary.
Have the man take a reflective look back.
Guaranteed controversy (and copious web site hits) right there.
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Postby Marabelle » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:17 am

Deano, it would be considered an interview not a report. To me that's a big difference.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:46 am

I like the way you think TNC, except it's the 33rd anniversary..
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Re: Conspiracy continues!

Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:54 am

Andrew wrote:I've said before....I have no reason to know why, as I'm never told why...but my bud in Canada who reports for BW&BK got a 50 minute Perry interview....

I'll get him to pass all details on ASAP....but my latest request for an interview met with a 'perhaps during a press day in January'....

But he did this interview this weekend. So again I am left wondering if and when I will be able to do an interview.


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I'm looking forward to anything from your friends interview that you can pass on. Maybe your friend asked Perry why he wouldn't let you interview him. Have you ever met Perry? Based on some of your posts here in reference to Perry, do you feel that he is being unfair in not wanting to discuss anything with you? I don't think that it has anything at all to do with your support of current Journey.
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Re: Conspiracy continues!

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:49 am

heardonthestreet wrote: I don't think that it has anything at all to do with your support of current Journey.


Well, as usual, what you crazed ladies *think* and what really is occurring are two completely different things. Andrew even confirmed that it was directly because of his support for current-day Journey that he was not being granted an interview.
Sounds like the dubious ramblings of a conspiracy theorist, right?
Perhaps, until the interpolation of the fact that Andrew was told this explicitly from Perry management itself!
Here's the quote:

Andrew wrote:Actually, it was identified early on that I was a continuing supporter of Journey and I was TOLD BY PERRY MANAGEMENT that he would not give me an interview for that reason.

Yep...better believe it...because I was seen to be promoting the new line up of the band back as far as 1997 I was told Perry would not do any interview with me.

Says a lot I think, but I continue to request an interview every year and continue to be denied each time.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:57 am

That's too bad that it has to do with your support of Journey, who has a new cd and is touring. Sheesh

BUT you'd think if Perry had a new cd or tour to promote, he would be talking to you so fast to get the publicity out, right?

Just curious, if/when you have an interview with Perry, would you focus more on the past or focus on present day/future? Probably a mixture, right?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:57 am

Again, it's not like perry is a coveted interview....

Hell, what can he possibly say, truthfully anyway?



Let it go Andrew.

Do what TNC said, get that fatass Herbie to meet you in a Wendy's, buy him a triple meat w/cheese, Biggie size it, and he will divulge all...
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:58 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Again, it's not like perry is a coveted interview....

Hell, what can he possibly say, truthfully anyway?



Let it go Andrew.

Do what TNC said, get that fatass Herbie to meet you in a Wendy's, buy him a triple meat w/cheese, Biggie size it, and he will divulge all...


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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:04 am

Oh, how could I forget the XLarge Frosty....

I could see Herbie, commandeering two chairs( one cheek per), talking to the Wombat, in downtown Miami, throwing square burgers every 15 minutes, while Andrew would just be shocked at the tonnage consumed by HH...Washing down triples with cheese, with chocolate frosty's.....

I wonder if HH has dual tires on his rig?

If HH is reading this, he has to know I love him..Flatout, the best Mgr. music has ever seen..
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Postby jrnyman28 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:39 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Oh, how could I forget the XLarge Frosty....

I could see Herbie, commandeering two chairs( one cheek per), talking to the Wombat, in downtown Miami, throwing square burgers every 15 minutes, while Andrew would just be shocked at the tonnage consumed by HH...Washing down triples with cheese, with chocolate frosty's.....

I wonder if HH has dual tires on his rig?

If HH is reading this, he has to know I love him..Flatout, the best Mgr. music has ever seen..


I am envisioning Jabba The Hut
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:18 am

Having the friend ask why Steve won't talk to Andrew is a good idea.


Marabelle wrote:Deano, it would be considered an interview not a report. To me that's a big difference.


Exactly. There's a big difference between an interview for a music site and a segment for 60 minutes. He's not hiding any political powder kegs or threats to national security that the public has a right to know about. Why in the world would Steve grant an interwiew that he had reason to think he'd be uncomfortable with? Maybe some of the things he reads on here make him uncomfortable about it.

I don't think Andrew's personal support of the band is the problem anymore. It may have been to begin with when the feelings were still more raw, but Steve talks to a lot of the same interviewers who cover the band now.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:33 am

I frankly don't care one iota if perry is uncomfortable when he reads this. I don't care at all.

He should care about his own soggy character. if he had any kind of backbone, any kind of manhood, he would stop acting like a little bitch, quit hiding, and face the questions. or rather, just go away already.

We have a band now that works for us. They are out on the road for us. He is nowhere to be found...
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Enough. Stop spinning Heads...

Sherrie, you are now back into the Loon column..Come on, you are better than that!
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Postby Free » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:41 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:I frankly don't care one iota if perry is uncomfortable when he reads this. I don't care at all.

He should care about his own soggy character. if he had any kind of backbone, any kind of manhood, he would stop acting like a little bitch, quit hiding, and face the questions. or rather, just go away already.

Like it or not perryheads, this is what Perry has done since TBF. It's quuite sad that a man in his 50's behaves like a 10 year old.

We have a band now that works for us. They are out on the road for us. He is nowhere to be found...
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Sherrie, you are now back into the Loon column..Come on, you are better than that!
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Postby arden » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:43 am

Perry recently gave interviews to Joe Benson of KLOS, Lora Beard of Fan Asylum and Jeb Wright from classicrock revisited. All have supported and/or been given interviews by the current lineup.
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:52 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
Sherrie, you are now back into the Loon column..Come on, you are better than that!



How does calling it like I see it make me a Loon? I didn't people didn't have a right to say what they think, only that it may be a little offputting to Steve if he knows what's said.

If it was the other way around, and you thought Neal was avoiding a possible confrontation in an interview because of negative stuff being said about him, you'd say the same thing I did and you know it.
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Postby PROPERRY » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:30 am

Some of you say that you want hin to do an interview, but really it seems more like you just want to put him on trial for everything you THINK has happened in Journey. It's ridiculous how some of you think he owes you explanations about things that happened between the band members & him that are NONE of the fans business!

I for one would love for him to do an interview, but NOT in an unfriendly environment, where people want to blame him for everything. I just appreciate the fact that "HE does interviews" for us because I know he does not have to do interviews for the fans at all.

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:58 am

arden wrote:All have supported and/or been given interviews by the current lineup.


Bull.

The Jeb Wright interviews were ladden with anti-Augeri/new lineup sentiment. Many posters noticed this and spoke about it at great length here.

Fan Asylum is what Perry predominantly uses to communicate via his fans. I don't recall it in any way having any supportive relationship with the current lineup.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:03 am

PROPERRY wrote:Some of you say that you want hin to do an interview, but really it seems more like you just want to put him on trial for everything you THINK has happened in Journey.


Inattentive as ever, Lori. If you had actually read this thread you would have seen that the overwhelming majority of current fans are apathetic on the issue. Jester told Andrew not to waste his time pursuing an interview with Perry, Dean echoed similar thoughts and so did I.
Do you ever pay attention?


PROPERRY wrote:It's ridiculous how some of you think he owes you explanations about things that happened between the band members & him that are NONE of the fans business!


Show me ONE quote where a fan said anything of the sort. I think we'd all like to see Perry grilled, and have his grudnel held to the fire, but that doesn't mean we think we are entitled to answers.

PROPERRY wrote:I just appreciate the fact that "HE does interviews" for us because I know he does not have to do interviews for the fans at all.

Lori


You're incessant 'rainbows and sunshine' peachy attitude makes me want to go shit.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:05 am

ohsherrie wrote:If it was the other way around, and you thought Neal was avoiding a possible confrontation in an interview because of negative stuff being said about him, you'd say the same thing I did and you know it.


But it's not the other way around.
Neal is willing to talk about almost anything anytime.
The comparison is moot.
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Postby PROPERRY » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:13 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
arden wrote:All have supported and/or been given interviews by the current lineup.


Bull.

The Jeb Wright interviews were ladden with anti-Augeri/new lineup sentiment. Many posters noticed this and spoke about it at great length here.

Fan Asylum is what Perry predominantly uses to communicate via his fans. I don't recall it in any way having any supportive relationship with the current lineup.




NC,

Arden is right that Joe Benson has done interviews with the current line up of Journey & Perry (separately of course).


That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:16 am

PROPERRY wrote:Some of you say that you want hin to do an interview, but really it seems more like you just want to put him on trial for everything you THINK has happened in Journey. It's ridiculous how some of you think he owes you explanations about things that happened between the band members & him that are NONE of the fans business!

I for one would love for him to do an interview, but NOT in an unfriendly environment, where people want to blame him for everything. I just appreciate the fact that "HE does interviews" for us because I know he does not have to do interviews for the fans at all.

Lori


Wonderfull put, as usual, Lori,
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:18 am

PROPERRY wrote:That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori


Too bad Andrew already clarified this for your big dumb thick head.
He was turned down by Perry's management for the specific reasons of supporting the current lineup.
Furthermore, when 'Drew was turned down it was in the late 90's before there was even a MR.com Journey forum yet (and even if their was, it hardly contained any of the outspoken regulars who post here today).
Your argument doesn't hold water.
FACE THE FACTS: Perry turned down Andrew because he supports the current lineup.
That's what they specifically told Andrew.
Are you calling Andrew a liar?
How many more times must he butt-in to verify this?
What the hell is wrong with you?
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Postby Marabelle » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:24 am

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That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori[/quote]

I think it's split even; he's a notorious MaMa's boy and he's extremely talented. Is it negative or brutally honest. I don't know. I know I would have gotten tired of waiting for him to go through whatever he had to go through. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And, if he wasn't so into himself he might have been able to actually been a part of the band. I love the guy and he's extremely taltented. But geez...
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:33 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori


Too bad Andrew already clarified this for your big dumb thick head.
He was turned down by Perry's management for the specific reasons of supporting the current lineup. When 'Drew was turned down it was in the late 90's before there was even a MR.com Journey forum yet (and even if their was, it hardly contained any of the regulars who post here today).
Your argument doesn't hold water.
FACE THE FACTS: Perry turned down Andrew because he supports the current lineup. That's what they told Andrew. Are you calling Andrew a liar? How many more times must he verify this? What the hell is wrong with you?




Andrew also stated that this was probably not the case, in another post sometime back. I believe the post was to Lori. He admitted that it wasn't because of his support for Journey. Do some homework, Noble and stop making such an ass of yourself with your rude posting to others on this board. This is allowed by Andrew and the more some of you belittle the other posters, and it is allowed, Andrew looks bad. He most defiantly babies some of you and has himself labeled some of us perryloons. He has suggested that we cause the trouble here when he should know that this board would flop if we all left.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:43 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Andrew also stated that this was probably not the case, in another post sometime back. I believe the post was to Lori. He admitted that it wasn't because of his support for Journey.


No, he didn't. He said the on-going atmosphere of the forums may possibly have some impeding effect on attaining an interview w/ Perry today, but back in the day when he was first told he couldn't get an interview, it was explicitly because (and I quote)...

"because I was seen to be promoting the new line up of the band back as far as 1997 I was told Perry would not do any interview with me."

heardonthestreet wrote:Do some homework, Noble and stop making such an ass of yourself with your rude posting to others on this board.


I did my homework. I provided substantiating quotes.
Where are yours?

heardonthestreet wrote:This is allowed by Andrew and the more some of you belittle the other posters, and it is allowed, Andrew looks bad. He most defiantly babies some of you and has himself labeled some of us perryloons.


Look, a loon is a loon.
Andrew cannot be held responsible for your various mental afflictions.
You people are seriously mentally ill.
He's just calling it the way it is.

To quote Andrew once again, "Some folks cannot accept any negative slant towards their God and should someone dare to say something that isn't a kiss-ass compliment, then they must be driven by the devil.

It is a symptom of blind fan following devotion that several artists I deal with have. There is a set element that cannot bare to have their idol questioned - even when in some cases their decisions should be questioned."
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