Conspiracy continues!

[PROPERRY]

[
That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori

I think it's split even; he's a notorious MaMa's boy and he's extremely talented. Is it negative or brutally honest. I don't know. I know I would have gotten tired of waiting for him to go through whatever he had to go through. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And, if he wasn't so into himself he might have been able to actually been a part of the band. I love the guy and he's extremely taltented. But geez...[/quote]


Sorry Marabelle, but you kind of lost me with some of your comments. "MaMa's boy"? How do any of us fans know the relationship between Perry & his mother? He has talked about his mother a little bit in interviews, which leads me to believe he was close to her, ( nothing wrong with that ) but I hardly think we can say & know for sure "He's a notorious MaMa's boy".

"As for waiting for him", well I believe that Perry had to do what was right for himself concerning HIS serious health problem, & that's that. And how do you know that Perry was stuck on himself? Do you know him personally? I don't, so I wouldn't say that either way about someone I didn't know personally.

The ONE thing I agree with you & that We all KNOW is that Yes, Perry is an extremely talented guy!

Lori

[arden]

Jeb has also given pro current lineup reviews in the beginning and more recently as well.

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... _schon.htm

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... ourney.htm

While Journey and Steve Perry are no longer "clients" of Fan Asylum, I believe that both Lora Beard and Cyndy Poon have remained supportive of the current lineup as well as Steve Perry and attended both the SF WOF ceremony as well as the Hollywood WOF...among other events.

Lora and Fan Asylum are the most reliable sources for information on Steve Perry, however, they are not his management as "some" seem to think.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Sorry Marabelle, but you kind of lost me with some of your comments. "MaMa's boy"? How do any of us fans know the relationship between Perry & his mother?

Yet amazingly you think you know Perry well enough to unequivocally repudiate the idea that Perry won't talk to Andrew because Andrew likes Augeri-era. Even though Andrew tells you just that.

Does your flagrant hypocrisy know no bounds?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Jeb has also given pro current lineup reviews in the beginning and more recently as well.

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... _schon.htm

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... ourney.htm

I don't care. Jeb's interview with Perry (which is the one we are talking about) designedly included a swipe at Augeri.
Many fans picked up on it.

[NealIsGod]

He has suggested that we cause the trouble here when he should know that this board would flop if we all left.

That is the funniest thing I have heard all day! What do any of you contribute but trying to make everyone live in the 80's with you?

[arden]

The interview with Neal also takes swipes at Perry which, at the time, many people picked up on.

The fact that you "don't care" about facts doesn't surprise anyone, TJ.

Jeb has also given pro current lineup reviews in the beginning and more recently as well.

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... _schon.htm

http://classicrockrevisited.com/intervi ... ourney.htm

I don't care. Jeb's interview with Perry (which is the one we are talking about) designedly included a swipe at Augeri.
Many fans picked up on it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

The interview with Neal also takes swipes at Perry which, at the time, many people picked up on.

From who? Neal or Jeb?

The fact that you "don't care" about facts doesn't surprise anyone,

I didn't say I don't care about facts. I said don't care about previous even-handed Jeb interviews. Being granted an interview with Perry is a pretty big score.
In return, it seems Jeb felt the need to denigrate Augeri's talent.

TJ.

Upon my time here I've been accused of being "Fred", "Reardon" "Yak" and "Tornado Jackson", as well. No one has been able to substantiate any of their accusations.
You'll be no different, (though I encourage you to try to break the trend. )

[arden]

The jabs were from Neal mostly. You have the link...use it. You've completely missed the point, however. You are trying to prove that Perry will not give Andrew an interview because Andrew supports the current lineup. I've pointed out that he has given interviews to others who support the current lineup. That's not the only reason and I'm sure Andrew knows it.

When I last confronted you about your previous existence here as Tornado Jackson, I believe your response was along the lines of "I haven't denied it".

The interview with Neal also takes swipes at Perry which, at the time, many people picked up on.

From who? Neal or Jeb?

The fact that you "don't care" about facts doesn't surprise anyone,

I didn't say I don't care about facts. I said don't care about previous even-handed Jeb interviews. Being granted an interview with Perry is a pretty big score.
In return, it seems Jeb felt the need to denigrate Augeri's talent.

TJ.

Upon my time here I've been accused of being "Fred", "Reardon" and "Tornado Jackson", as well. No one has been able to substantiate any of their accusations.
You'll be no different, (though I encourage you to try to break the trend. )

[heardonthestreet]

He has suggested that we cause the trouble here when he should know that this board would flop if we all left.

That is the funniest thing I have heard all day! What do any of you contribute but trying to make everyone live in the 80's with you?

.............................................. You're so easily amused, no wonder Gen thrills you.

[PROPERRY]

Sorry Marabelle, but you kind of lost me with some of your comments. "MaMa's boy"? How do any of us fans know the relationship between Perry & his mother?

Yet amazingly you think you know Perry well enough to unequivocally repudiate the idea that Perry won't talk to Andrew because Andrew likes Augeri-era. Even though Andrew tells you just that.

Does your flagrant hypocrisy know no bounds?

It has already been pointed out by Arden here that Joe Benson, Lora Beard ( Fan Asylum), & the other guy Jeb all have done interviews for the current line up & Perry, so obvisiously Andrew supporting Augeri era is not the issue. It makes more sense to me that the reason Perry could not be doing an interview with Andrew is because of "how negative this board" is towards Perry.

Lori

[heardonthestreet]

It's not so much the negativity as the moderator taking sides. It's skin off Andrew's nose when it comes to issues like this. No conspiracy there!

[Marabelle]

[
That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori

I think it's split even; he's a notorious MaMa's boy and he's extremely talented. Is it negative or brutally honest. I don't know. I know I would have gotten tired of waiting for him to go through whatever he had to go through. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And, if he wasn't so into himself he might have been able to actually been a part of the band. I love the guy and he's extremely taltented. But geez...

Sorry Marabelle, but you kind of lost me with some of your comments. "MaMa's boy"? How do any of us fans know the relationship between Perry & his mother? He has talked about his mother a little bit in interviews, which leads me to believe he was close to her, ( nothing wrong with that ) but I hardly think we can say & know for sure "He's a notorious MaMa's boy".

"As for waiting for him", well I believe that Perry had to do what was right for himself concerning HIS serious health problem, & that's that. And how do you know that Perry was stuck on himself? Do you know him personally? I don't, so I wouldn't say that either way about someone I didn't know personally.

The ONE thing I agree with you & that We all KNOW is that Yes, Perry is an extremely talented guy!

Lori[/quote]


I'm referring to Behind the Music where we see the show focuisng on the close Mother/Son relationship between the two. Nothing wrong with that' but there has to be more in his life which would identify him as a person that being close to his Mother. The man is in his 50s. It's like Liberace.
I'd rather think of him with a woman and there being a marriage, or a relationship or something which is more normal in his age.

[PROPERRY]

[
That being said I don't believe Perry's management is turning down Andrew because of his support of the current line up, more like it has to do with the way this message board here is "extremely negative" towards Perry.

Lori

I think it's split even; he's a notorious MaMa's boy and he's extremely talented. Is it negative or brutally honest. I don't know. I know I would have gotten tired of waiting for him to go through whatever he had to go through. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And, if he wasn't so into himself he might have been able to actually been a part of the band. I love the guy and he's extremely taltented. But geez...

Sorry Marabelle, but you kind of lost me with some of your comments. "MaMa's boy"? How do any of us fans know the relationship between Perry & his mother? He has talked about his mother a little bit in interviews, which leads me to believe he was close to her, ( nothing wrong with that ) but I hardly think we can say & know for sure "He's a notorious MaMa's boy".

"As for waiting for him", well I believe that Perry had to do what was right for himself concerning HIS serious health problem, & that's that. And how do you know that Perry was stuck on himself? Do you know him personally? I don't, so I wouldn't say that either way about someone I didn't know personally.

The ONE thing I agree with you & that We all KNOW is that Yes, Perry is an extremely talented guy!

Lori

I'm referring to Behind the Music where we see the show focuisng on the close Mother/Son relationship between the two. Nothing wrong with that' but there has to be more in his life which would identify him as a person that being close to his Mother. The man is in his 50s. It's like Liberace.
I'd rather think of him with a woman and there being a marriage, or a relationship or something which is more normal in his age.[/quote]




Marabelle,

Just because Perry does not talk about his private life publicly,as having a girlfriend or marraige or whatever does not mean he couldn't have someone special in his life.

MAYBE he keeps that part of his life private to protect the person he is with from "becoming a target" like HE is on this board by some.

And to make clear, I'm certainly not saying I know one way or the other, if Perry has someone in his life, it's just me guessing that 's all.

Lori

[Rockindeano]

Hahahaha

this is an amusing thread.

Seriously, TNC makes concrete arguments, BACKED UP with substance.

The Heads/Loons just go off onto the fuckin yellow brick road...lala land.


Andrew, do me a favour? Keep supporting the current lineup. To Hell with that washed up ass clown. Let him do his favourite ice cream and colours interviews.



I am telling you people, the reason why Perry can't come clean is because it's hard to admit that the pipes are rusted shut...I feel for the guy, but he isn't getting any real compassion from me; a guy who worshipped him for 7 years..Hell no.

And I am willing to bet, Andrew would rather let us retain our freedom of expression and let us remain and criticize Perry, than boot us off so Perry would grant him an interview.

Like Herbie said, "Perry is a motherfucker."

[Andrew]

Lots of interesting replies, but sadly a few silly ones too.

Here goes for those that haven't previously understood my posts.

1 - No, I have never before spoken to or interviewed Steve.

2 - Hell yes, I'd love to. Who wouldn't want the opportunity to interview a personal hero. He is one of just a few I have left to tick off (Rick Springfield, John Waite, Toto, Andy Taylor, Night Ranger, Mr. Big, Magnum, Survivor, Mark Free, Journey - all ticked).

3 - Any interview would be one done out of the greatest respect, no badgering/arguing (read my other interviews, this is not my style); but similarily, I would ask a series of hard questions (again, as I do when possible/appropriate)

4 - I'm not sure my bud even requested the interview....it was offered to him, yet my contstant requests go unanswered.

5 - I have NO IDEA why I have not been given an interview. I can only go off the ONE reply I actually got (which was back in 99 now...) and that answer was that in light of my support of the new line-up (as it was then new) an interview did not seem appropraite.

Does this cover everyting and is anything not understood?

The good news is - I get the exclusive first run of my bud's interview! Stay tuned...

[ohsherrie]

Neal is willing to talk about almost anything anytime.
The comparison is moot.

You're right about that. Neal will shoot off his crude mouth to anyone about anything at anytime. Regardless of the consequences. That's probably lost him as many, if not more, potential fans than Perry's reticence has.

The comparison isn't moot however, because I've seen an instance where Neal was getting bashed unmercifully on a board and his fans were complaining because his feelings might get hurt.

[Rockindeano]

Horseshit Sherrie.

Neal Schon doesn't give a shit about being NIIIICE.

What board has Neal EVER gotten bashed? I defy you to provide a link.

[ohsherrie]

The good news is - I get the exclusive first run of my bud's interview! Stay tuned...

Thanks Andrew.

[Andrew]

It's not so much the negativity as the moderator taking sides. It's skin off Andrew's nose when it comes to issues like this. No conspiracy there!

I have no idea what you are talking about. No isdes here, just trying to keep the two sides here from killing each other.

[ohsherrie]

What board has Neal EVER gotten bashed? I defy you to provide a link.

Can't, the board was the VH1 Perry board and it was closed shortly after VH1 agreed to sponser the Journey/Styx/Reo Speedwagon tour a couple years ago. This just happened to be at the same time the severe bashing was happening. Coincidence? Maybe.

[Rockindeano]

Lucky I wasn't over there at that time..I would have thrown you Loons out a long time ago on a one way train to Hell....

[ohsherrie]

this board would flop if we all left.

I'm not sure if it would flop, but we've all seen these guys start to try to eat each other alive over nonsense if there isn't some controversy with us.

[Rockindeano]

this board would flop if we all left.

Haha.. Tell ya what, stay away for a month, take your other scags with you, and see how we flop.. We have something to talk about..You don't.

Dumb bitches..

[Rockindeano]

I'm not sure if it would flop, but we've all seen these guys start to try to eat each other alive over nonsense if there isn't some controversy with us. [/quote]

So you're admitting you are one of "them?"

Argh..I thought you were better than that...

We don't need you, but I for one LOVE kicking the endless shit out of those Ogers..Too easy; especially when we have all the facts on our side...

[ohsherrie]

this board would flop if we all left.

Haha.. Tell ya what, stay away for a month, take your other scags with you, and see how we flop.. We have something to talk about..You don't.

Dumb bitches..

Well, OK then, if that's the way you want it.

[fred_journeyman]

Actually, it was identified early on that I was a continuing supporter of Journey and I was TOLD BY PERRY MANAGEMENT that he would not give me an interview for that reason.

Yep...better believe it...because I was seen to be promoting the new line up of the band back as far as 1997 I was told Perry would not do any interview with me.

Says a lot I think, but I continue to request an interview every year and continue to be denied each time.

Yep, it says a lot, Andrew. Obviously there are still some really hard feelings there. Oh well.

I cannot imagine Perry really saying that much in any interview, frankly. Seems to me it would be one of those type of interviews where the interviewer kisses the ass of the interviewee so as not to cause any type of confrontation.

Recently, the last few interviews with Tom Cruise have put him on the defensive because of the questions asked. Nonetheless, an experienced interviewer/reporter knows how to dig and get answers to questions that most people want to know.

The only questions that I'd like him to answer directly are:
1) Did you actually have hip replacement surgery?
2) Why did you feel it was okay to simply walk away from the band and remain out of touch with them for those years?
3) Are you, or are you not planning on getting back into the studio to record new material?

I know his addresses, his phone numbers and his SS#. Apart from the questions above, I'm not really interested in knowing anything else.

- Fred

[arden]

The only thing that escapes understanding is why you feel the need to trot out this lame conspiracy theory *every* time you are denied an interview. Especially when the responses by your minions are as predictable as clockwork and you know exactly what those responses are going to be. It simply is not a professional reaction. You are using a statement given to you 6 years ago when it is very clear that Perry does *not* deny interviews to others who are supportive of the current lineup now.

I believe it is that perception of a lack of professionalism coupled with the continued unbridaled practice by both you and your minions of presenting slanderous opinions as fact...and usually in the filthiest and most disgustingly crude language possible. Something I believe even your
compatriots have pointed out to you.

Lots of interesting replies, but sadly a few silly ones too.

Here goes for those that haven't previously understood my posts.

1 - No, I have never before spoken to or interviewed Steve.

2 - Hell yes, I'd love to. Who wouldn't want the opportunity to interview a personal hero. He is one of just a few I have left to tick off (Rick Springfield, John Waite, Toto, Andy Taylor, Night Ranger, Mr. Big, Magnum, Survivor, Mark Free, Journey - all ticked).

3 - Any interview would be one done out of the greatest respect, no badgering/arguing (read my other interviews, this is not my style); but similarily, I would ask a series of hard questions (again, as I do when possible/appropriate)

4 - I'm not sure my bud even requested the interview....it was offered to him, yet my contstant requests go unanswered.

5 - I have NO IDEA why I have not been given an interview. I can only go off the ONE reply I actually got (which was back in 99 now...) and that answer was that in light of my support of the new line-up (as it was then new) an interview did not seem appropraite.

Does this cover everyting and is anything not understood?

The good news is - I get the exclusive first run of my bud's interview! Stay tuned...

[Andrew]

Like Herbie said, "Perry is a motherfucker."

Deano,
I will certainly support the current line-up and any number of other bands I really believe in.
But I am also a Perry fan, so comments such as above aren't really appreciated and certainly don't help keep the peace in the forum.

[Rockindeano]

Like Herbie said, "Perry is a motherfucker."

Deano,
I will certainly support the current line-up and any number of other bands I really believe in.
But I am also a Perry fan, so comments such as above aren't really appreciated and certainly don't help keep the peace in the forum.

Dude, that is NOT me saying that.

Herbie himself said that. I just believe him.

Can you take back my demerit now?

[The_Noble_Cause]

The jabs were from Neal mostly. You have the link...use it. You've completely missed the point, however. You are trying to prove that Perry will not give Andrew an interview because Andrew supports the current lineup.

I'm not trying to prove anything.
I'm just telling you what Andrew was told directly by Perry Mngt.
It speaks for itself.

I've pointed out that he has given interviews to others who support the current lineup. That's not the only reason and I'm sure Andrew knows it.

Way to go, Matlock. I ,too, asked Andrew why did Jeb and other pro-lineup people get an interview.
Many people on this forum raised the same question.

When I last confronted you about your previous existence here as Tornado Jackson, I believe your response was along the lines of "I haven't denied it".

And I'm not denying it now, either.
Nor am I confirming it.
Why should I give you even the slightest tinge of satisfaction?
Guess who I am until your head explodes.