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Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:39 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Haha.. Tell ya what, stay away for a month, take your other scags with you, and see how we flop.. We have something to talk about..You don't.

Dumb bitches..


Deano - enough ok?
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Re: Conspiracy continues!

Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:40 am

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I know his addresses, his phone numbers and his SS#. Apart from the questions above, I'm not really interested in knowing anything else. :)

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Cough it up chompers. I NEED to go over to his house and chat.

Please?
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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:41 am

ohsherrie wrote:I'm not sure if it would flop, but we've all seen these guys start to try to eat each other alive over nonsense if there isn't some controversy with us. :lol:


Rock'ndeano wrote:So you're admitting you are one of "them?"

Argh..I thought you were better than that...


A tiger never changes its stripes, RND. ohsherrie has always been, is and will remain "one of them." It's impossible for her to change and she doesn't want to do so.

Funny how she was ragging on you in another thread because of how there's so much in the way of complimentary comments toward Journey - nothing controversial. I've never read where any of 'em say anything even remotely controversial where Perry is concerned (except maybe what type of underwear he wears) and THAT is okay because it's Perry. God forbid we all praise Neal for his guitar prowess, or Jon for his keys, or Deen for his drumming. Hypocrisy runs rampant from some quarters on this board. :)

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Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:43 am

arden wrote: You are using a statement given to you 6 years ago when it is very clear that Perry does *not* deny interviews to others who are supportive of the current lineup now.



But that is all I have EVER been told - it may be a 6 year old excuse, but since then my requests ahven't even recieved a response!
How is that for professional conduct.

And just who are my minions? This is my board, you posted, so does that include you?
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Re: Conspiracy continues!

Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:44 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
fred_journeyman wrote:
I know his addresses, his phone numbers and his SS#. Apart from the questions above, I'm not really interested in knowing anything else. :)

- Fred


Cough it up chompers. I NEED to go over to his house and chat.

Please?


Gee, I really wish I could, RND. :)

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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:44 am

Andrew wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Haha.. Tell ya what, stay away for a month, take your other scags with you, and see how we flop.. We have something to talk about..You don't.

Dumb bitches..


Deano - enough ok?



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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:45 am

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The comparison isn't moot however, because I've seen an instance where Neal was getting bashed unmercifully on a board and his fans were complaining because his feelings might get hurt.


Your point is still moot. We are not those fans. You said Dean would want to protect Neal from a brow beating interview. That is bullshit.
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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:46 am

arden wrote: You are using a statement given to you 6 years ago when it is very clear that Perry does *not* deny interviews to others who are supportive of the current lineup now.



But I have to wonder how many of those other interviewers have their own boards like melodicrock.com that undoubtedly receives thousands of hits per day and has an impact on the music industry, to some degree?

Hey Andrew, don't feel bad...I talked to one of Perry's attorney briefly...once. Since then, he has ignored me and I was even really very nice in my first contact too. Kids today... :)

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Postby arden » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:47 am

You've tried to offer what Andrew was told *6 years ago* as proof that Perry doesn't give interviews to people that support the current lineup. That excuse has been refuted.

Just so that both you and Andrew are clear on it..."Perry Management" is NOT Fan Asylum or Lora Beard.

I don't have to guess about things I know. :wink:



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arden wrote:The jabs were from Neal mostly. You have the link...use it. You've completely missed the point, however. You are trying to prove that Perry will not give Andrew an interview because Andrew supports the current lineup.


I'm not trying to prove anything.
I'm just telling you what Andrew was told directly by Perry Mngt.
It speaks for itself.

arden wrote:I've pointed out that he has given interviews to others who support the current lineup. That's not the only reason and I'm sure Andrew knows it.


Way to go, Matlock. I ,too, asked Andrew why did Jeb and other pro-lineup people get an interview.
Many people on this forum raised the same question.

arden wrote:When I last confronted you about your previous existence here as Tornado Jackson, I believe your response was along the lines of "I haven't denied it".


And I'm not denying it now, either.
Nor am I confirming it.
Why should I give you even the slightest tinge of satisfaction?
Guess who I am until your head explodes.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:54 am

arden wrote:You've tried to offer what Andrew was told *6 years ago* as proof that Perry doesn't give interviews to people that support the current lineup.


Do you have a better explanation?

arden wrote:That excuse has been refuted.


No it hasn't. It was Andrew's site that first broke the story that Perry was out! Perhaps because of this, he is forever characterized as being complicit in Perry's dumping.

arden wrote:I don't have to guess about things I know. :wink:


Like how many uncircumsized inches you can take down your windpipe, chump?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:54 am

Minions...go to Hell.

Minions were from that South Park movie..all those demons of that big red gay Satan..are you saying we're minions? Ok, I'm in.

Andrew, I volunteer for point minion position..
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:00 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:You said Dean would want to protect Neal from a brow beating interview. That is bullshit.


No TNC, that's not what I said, or at least that's not what I meant. I meant that Dean would be defending Neal the same way I defend Steve. That's all, nothing more. 8)
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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:00 am

arden wrote:The only thing that escapes understanding is why you feel the need to trot out this lame conspiracy theory *every* time you are denied an interview. Especially when the responses by your minions are as predictable as clockwork and you know exactly what those responses are going to be. It simply is not a professional reaction. You are using a statement given to you 6 years ago when it is very clear that Perry does *not* deny interviews to others who are supportive of the current lineup now.


Hey, this is good stuff! Am I a "minion?" Hmmm. Andrew, did you know that your minions, even right now are plotting to keep Perry from returning to the limelight?

I believe it is that perception of a lack of professionalism coupled with the continued unbridaled practice by both you and your minions of presenting slanderous opinions as fact...


That comment is just plain stupid really. Who is presenting slanderous opinions? If anyone might have done that, my guess it would have been Herbie in the Castle's Burning interview and as far as I'm aware, to date he has not been sued, even though he questioned numerous things about Perry including his ability to tell the truth.

...and usually in the filthiest and most disgustingly crude language possible. Something I believe even your compatriots have pointed out to you.


Pass the popcorn! Hey, you know what's really interesting here? I saved a number of threads from the old VH1 board and it would be a hoot to trot those out to see which side of the fence is really the "filthiest" as you put it, Arden.


Andrew,

I really hope you're not holding your breath on getting an interview with Perry. And even if you did, do you honestly believe he would allow you to print it without him and/or his lawyers giving it the thorough going over?

I cannot imagine ANY interview with Perry doing little more than simply dancing on the surface, with him skirting issues. He never says anything that anyone can take to the bank. He says something and then people go, "What do you think he meant by that?" Then the rumors start. I mean, look what happens when fans ask him questions and he answers and the results are posted at Fan Asylum? Even though everyone can read the same words, people STILL assume that he means something else when he says something! Why? Because there is often way too much leeway in the answers he provides when it comes to the important issues.

I can just see the interview you'd get, Andrew. It would either be self-aggrandizing in nature or it wouldn't happen.

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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:02 am

ohsherrie wrote:No TNC, that's not what I said, or at least that's not what I meant. I meant that Dean would be defending Neal the same way I defend Steve. That's all, nothing more. 8)


The huge difference of course, is that Deen actually knows Neal...

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Postby arden » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:03 am

Well, now, Andrew this contradicts what you said earlier about being told "Perhaps in January" and "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" Which is it?

You know very clearly that I'm not among your minions. Is that a requirement of posting here?

Perhaps they are returning unprofessionalism with unprofessionalism to make a point.



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arden wrote: You are using a statement given to you 6 years ago when it is very clear that Perry does *not* deny interviews to others who are supportive of the current lineup now.



But that is all I have EVER been told - it may be a 6 year old excuse, but since then my requests ahven't even recieved a response!
How is that for professional conduct.

And just who are my minions? This is my board, you posted, so does that include you?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:09 am

arden wrote:Well, now, Andrew this contradicts what you said earlier about being told "Perhaps in January" and "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" Which is it?

You know very clearly that I'm not among your minions. Is that a requirement of posting here?

Perhaps they are returning unprofessionalism with unprofessionalism to make a point.


Your posts epitomize the brand of idiot zealot lunacy that is endemic amongst almost all Perryfanatics and earns them the name of Loon.
Andrew's "minions"?
You're joking, right?
He is just a regular bloke from down under trying to make ends meet.
Do you hear yourself, man?
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Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:10 am

arden wrote:Well, now, Andrew this contradicts what you said earlier about being told "Perhaps in January" and "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" Which is it?


Ok, I try and make everyone happy and I was a little concerned that you were/are upset with me. But now I can see that you simply just don't get it.

I do try and state things simply for those that require that, so I'll try again.

1 - I was last told - perhaps in January when Steve does some more press. That was early last week. Then on Friday of last week, my bud scores a 50 minute interview.
Er....clearly Steve is still doing press.

2 - The "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" was part of the 6 year old excuse for not granting me an interview and literalyl has NOTHING to do with the first sentence you coupled it with.
Please do not post misleading information.

I have clearly started and never deviated from the statement that I would love to do an interview and any which way I may be feeling has been someone else's interpretation, not mine.

No one has ever officially asked me if I would like to do an interview....of course I would.
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Postby arden » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:11 am

A better explanation? You aren't comprehending your own arguement. You claimed repeatedly that Perry isn't giving Andrew an interview because he supports the current lineup. I gave you three very reputable interviewers that support the current lineup *and* have interviewed Perry.

Oh, and don't look now, but your boy Andy has changed his story.



The_Noble_Cause wrote:
arden wrote:You've tried to offer what Andrew was told *6 years ago* as proof that Perry doesn't give interviews to people that support the current lineup.


Do you have a better explanation?

arden wrote:That excuse has been refuted.


No it hasn't. It was Andrew's site that first broke the story that Perry was out! Perhaps because of this, he is forever characterized as being complicit in Perry's dumping.

arden wrote:I don't have to guess about things I know. :wink:


Like how many uncircumsized inches you can take down your windpipe, chump?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:17 am

Arden, you need your puss punched.

I hate you already..
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Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:19 am

arden wrote:
Oh, and don't look now, but your boy Andy has changed his story.



No I haven't. Again, you are trying to misrepresent...

You clearly just do not understand plain English or are getting yourself all confused trying to keep up with a logical set of comments.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am

I love this..The board is surely on it's way to nuclar armegeddon tonight.

I am in..Who else?
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Postby Marabelle » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am

Welll I'm my own minion.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:21 am

arden wrote:A better explanation? You aren't comprehending your own arguement. You claimed repeatedly that Perry isn't giving Andrew an interview because he supports the current lineup.


That is correct. It's also worth noting that Andrew was the first to break the story that Perry was a goner.
Perhaps Perry still harbors harsh feelings about that.

arden wrote:I gave you three very reputable interviewers that support the current lineup *and* have interviewed Perry.


No, you didn't. Fan Asylum doesn't support the current lineup in any way. I don't care if Lora personally supports the group, the Asylum website has no overt references to the current lineup. The site does not in any exhbited way support the current lineup. Nice try.

As for Jeb, well I already went other this. While Jeb's previous interviews had been pretty even-handed, his Perry interview included a deliberate swipe at Augeri. Coincidence? I'd be more inclined to think so if Andrew (among others) hadn't revealed what a spiteful litle prick Perry can be.


arden wrote:Oh, and don't look now, but your boy Andy has changed his story.


Andrew's not "my boy", he's a guy who runs a website that I frequent. Considering that you use his website as well, maybe you should try to be a little more respectful.
Furthermore, I read his post and don't see him changing his story. Andrew's been pretty consistent.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:24 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:. Andrew's been pretty consistent.


No he hasn't.

He has been right on...the entire time.

I researched this whole thing as well..No wavering by the Wombat leader...
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Postby arden » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:26 am

I'm not posting misleading information, and you well know it. Your attempts at condescension when your facts are challenged only trumpets your lack of professionalism as a journalist.

In your initial post in *this thread* you claimed to have been told "perhaps in January". The last time you trotted this excuse out, you claimed you had been told "with the way you feel, why would you want one?". Now, again in this thread you claim they haven't responded to you at all *6 years*. It seems you are the one who is misleading.

BTW, is the fact that Lora and Fan Asylum is not now and never was "Perry management" lost on you?






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arden wrote:Well, now, Andrew this contradicts what you said earlier about being told "Perhaps in January" and "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" Which is it?


Ok, I try and make everyone happy and I was a little concerned that you were/are upset with me. But now I can see that you simply just don't get it.

I do try and state things simply for those that require that, so I'll try again.

1 - I was last told - perhaps in January when Steve does some more press. That was early last week. Then on Friday of last week, my bud scores a 50 minute interview.
Er....clearly Steve is still doing press.

2 - The "With the way you feel, why would you want one?" was part of the 6 year old excuse for not granting me an interview and literalyl has NOTHING to do with the first sentence you coupled it with.
Please do not post misleading information.

I have clearly started and never deviated from the statement that I would love to do an interview and any which way I may be feeling has been someone else's interpretation, not mine.

No one has ever officially asked me if I would like to do an interview....of course I would.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:32 am

arden wrote:I'm not posting misleading information, and you well know it. Your attempts at condesencion when your facts are challenged only trumpets your lack of professionalism as a journalist.


The only palpable condesencion is radiating directly from you. Andrew has been at his upmost diplomatic throughout this entire thread.

arden wrote:The last time you trotted this excuse out, you claimed you had been told "with the way you feel, why would you want one?".


I don't think Andrew ever said Perry's management told him that.

arden wrote:Now, again in this thread you claim they haven't responded to you at all *6 years*. It seems you are the one who is misleading.


Huh? I don't think you are paying attention.

arden wrote:BTW, is the fact that Lora and Fan Asylum is not now and never was "Perry management" lost on you?


Hey you big blubbering vagina.
No one is saying that Lora is Perry's management.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:37 am

Twat, err, Arden-

Just what is it you are trying to get at?

It seems to me you just don't like anybody or anything, unless its precious perry.

You have a lot of gall to come onto a guys' board and smack him down. It's bitches like you, that condoms were invented.
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Postby Andrew » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:37 am

arden wrote:I'm not posting misleading information, and you well know it. Your attempts at condescension when your facts are challenged only trumpets your lack of professionalism as a journalist.

In your initial post in *this thread* you claimed to have been told "perhaps in January". The last time you trotted this excuse out, you claimed you had been told "with the way you feel, why would you want one?". Now, again in this thread you claim they haven't responded to you at all *6 years*. It seems you are the one who is misleading.

BTW, is the fact that Lora and Fan Asylum is not now and never was "Perry management" lost on you?




This is my last post to you as I'm not one for speaking to the deaf. It clearly does me no good to waste my time posting anything in reply to you, as you will believe what you want to believe, despite everyone else trying to correct you.

But, your comment on Fan Asylum. Do you think that I am really that stupid?
Do you not think that in 8 or so years of running this site that I couldn't possibly track down a contact for Perry besides a pseudo fan club site?

I have always spoken directly to his official reprentatives.

No go away until you can understand plain English enough to actually present a counter argument that makes sense.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:41 am

Take that bitch.

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Postby Marabelle » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:44 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Take that bitch.

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I'm not laughing at Arden or any of this discussion; but that ...TNC...

Geez that is funny to see.
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