I think I already answered the first two responses in your post. So I'll skip to this one.
But Perry's range fluctuated throughout his entire tenure in Journey.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You don't think Augeri is singing in a higher range then Perry was during ROR or TBF?
Think again.
Augeri actually sings the songs more like the record.
Many times Perry would speed them up, garble words and make them sound like abject ass.
Of course Steve's voice went through changes. I was talking about the early stuff that was written for a high range. Frankly I'd much rather hear the ROR and TBF stuff done in Steve's lower range. If you like the way Augeri does them better, that's fine. That wasn't the point of what I was saying, and I'm not letting you drag me off the point.
Do you own any of Augeri's previous non-Journey records?
No, you don't.
Which begs the question, just who are you to comment on Augeri's abilities?
His non-Journey works blow Perry's non-Journey works right out of the water.
So, you honestly think that any high range singer could have worked just as well for Journey as Perry? All those great songs that brought most of here would have been just as good with somebody else? I'm not saying Augeri isn't a good singer, I never have said that, but he's not an extraordinary vocalist. It's my opinion that it was Steve's extraordinary vocal abilities that set Journey apart from the pack in the '80s. I don't know anything about Augeri's solo work, but I'm not talking about their solo work. I'm talking about what made Journey the greatest band of it's time.
Who the hell is talking about "honorable mentions"?
Showing a modicum of respct by not referring to the guy an an inanimate "whatever" would be in your eyes "an honorable mention"? We're just saying that Perry should show a fellow musician (whom he doesn't know) a little respect!
I think I already addressed this point too, but I'll reiterate. I don't think he meant what he said as a direct slur on Augeri. I don't think he was referring the the person that replaced him. I think he was responding the the statements by the band that they didn't want a "sound alike" but a "replacement" that could cover the old material. He said, sound alike, replacement, whatever(not whoever). It doesn't have to be a personal dig against Augeri, unless of course, you want it to be.
You're full of shit, Sherrie.
Someone in this very thread posted an interview where the original singer of Judas Priest is now buds with his replacement singer. Furthermore, MANY artists show respect for their fellow workers in the music biz.
Why does that seem so unbelievable to you?
When you were a teacher, would you routinely flip off your fellow co-workers?
I didn't think so.
What does whatever went on with Judas Priest have to do with what happened in Journey? They're different people with a whole different set of circumstances. Of course, if you want to be impersonal about the people that make up bands and the interpersonal relationships between them I guess you can say one band breakup is the same as the next.
No, I doubt that I would routinely flip off anyone, but I don't see where Steve is doing that either. He's said nothing bad about Augeri. He's not acknowledging him at all if he can avoid it, why should he? Of course Neal seems to do a lot of that routine flipping off stuff, but hey, that's because he's just a straight shooter isn't he?
You're lying. Again.
No TNC, I'm not lying, and I never have. I may have said some things that I believed to be true but turned out to be wrong, but I don't EVER intentionally lie.
As I said to Dean, I can't prove what I said about the posts because I just don't have time to go dig them up. I've been noticing the trend though for quite some time. I wish now that I'd saved a list of the threads somewhere so that I could pull them out and show you. But then, even if I did I doubt if many would acknowledge the truth of it.
Because we end up quarelling with people like you.
I'm sure that's true. Not may people like me participate in the non-Perry threads. Of course I have, but they still seem to just fizzle out, unless someone(usually a Phile)finds some excuse in it to turn it into a Perry thread.
No, no, and no.
The Perry threads invariably end up being a popular topic because many Journey fans waste their time pointing out the endless hypocrisies and lies of people like you.
Exactly what hypocricies and lies do you think I'm guilty of? Anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is a lying hypocrite? Is that how it works?
[qoute]Once again. Neal isn't slighting a musician he doesn't know.
Perry is slighting a man who has shown nothing but the utmost respect. BIG difference.[/quote]
If there's any hypocricy going on here I'd say it's reflected in that statement. What would you expect Steve to say about a man that he doesn't even know? Especially since context of the question had nothing to do with his opinion of Augeri.
But it so rarely is true.
Andrew says Perry's management told him directly that because he supports the current band he would not be granted an interview.
What do you old maids do?
Immediately go into *spin* mode and deny, deny, deny.
Something remotely not a kiss-ass compliment about our Lord!
-Egads! It simply can't be true!
So u impugn Andrew's repuation and call the man a liar! It is this very denialist thinking that we see time and time again.
You people aren't honest about *ANYTHING*, when it comes to Perry.
You're zombified zealot practioneers of blind idolatry.
In a word, "LOONS!"
THAT is a LIE!! I never denied the truth of what Andrew said. In fact, I said it most likely was true at the time he was given that response but that things could very likely have changed because Steve had been granting interviews to others who support the band. If your going to lump everyone who doesn't see eye to eye into the LOON catagory, at least try to keep your Loons straight when your trying to make a legitimate point.
I also don't BLINDLY idolize ANYONE. Like so many on here apparently do Neal, Augeri, and/or the band in general.
I think Steve is treated unfairly harshly on here and a lot of other boards, and I try to point out the injustice of it, but I've never claimed he was a saint. NONE OF THEM ARE. They're human beings and it's unrealistic, idolatary, and downright stupid to expect anything but the normal behavioural flaws from them that we ALL have been guilty of in one way or another at times. When I say the things I do about Neal's crassness it's only to try to make people see that point and the unfairness of the way the standards of acceptable behaviour are applied. I don't really much care how he acts.
Maybe that's because Augeri hasn't overstepped his purview and fucked up the band yet. Augeri didn't fire people. He didn't take over creative control and make the shittiest record in all of Journey history.
He didn't feign injuries and cancel tours.
If you can think of something negative to post about Augeri then go ahead be my guest.
I've never condoned the thing with Smitty and Ross and I don't know what happened regarding TBF and the breakup, none of us does. Even though I would like to know, just out of curiosity, it wouldn't change the way I feel about anything. I would still like the old music and singer better than the new. It's just a matter of preference, not anyone's character flaws(whether real or imagined). I like the new stuff, just not as well as the old.
Let me ask again, if you think the band is better now than they were before, why do these things bother you so much? You should be glad they happened so that you could have the band you've got now.
Oh believe me, I could manage to come up with a few things to say about your Saint that are probably just as true in their own way as some of the things you say about Steve, if I wanted to play that way, but I don't.
Besides, I've been going out of my way to bash Augeri every day of the year so far because of his stupid song, "Believe".
So don't say current fans aren't critical of Augeri, because we are.
I've also been critical of some of the songs Perry did, but there's a big difference between critcizing a song or even a performance or action that you don't like and lambasting a man for everything you can dig up to lay into him about. I still don't understand the reason for it.
I don't understand what you're saying there Deano. What I meant was that you guys seem to expect some kind of altruism from Steve, but when Neal or Jon makes a remark that's a lot more overtly cutting about Steve you think that's just too cool. 
