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Postby Andrew » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:44 pm

From Soundscan for USA retail sales (some outlets not included, some online sales etc...) but generally, this is as close as you are ever going to get to an accurate number (for USA sales ONLY):

Steve Perry - For The Love Of Strange Medicine - 431,563
Steve Perry - Greatest Hits + Five - 93,535

Journey - Arrival - 187,411
Journey - Greatest Hits Live - 694,039
Journey - Trial By Fire - 1,202,323

Tall Stories - S/T - 25,793
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:52 pm

Just think, Arrival has sold 200k...with ANY, push at all, it could have doubled. perry's releases had tons of push..and still lost out..


Now, how do we figure Generations? I had it down to between 390K and 415K.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby Monker » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:07 pm

Andrew wrote:From Soundscan for USA retail sales (some outlets not included, some online sales etc...) but generally, this is as close as you are ever going to get to an accurate number (for USA sales ONLY):

Steve Perry - For The Love Of Strange Medicine - 431,563
Steve Perry - Greatest Hits + Five - 93,535

Journey - Arrival - 187,411
Journey - Greatest Hits Live - 694,039
Journey - Trial By Fire - 1,202,323

Tall Stories - S/T - 25,793


I find it a bit strange that FTLOSM is certified gold, but it didn't SoundScan enough to be gold...It must just barely have made it...

Or, they shipped 500,000 units and just claimed it as gold.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby Andrew » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:20 pm

Monker wrote:Or, they shipped 500,000 units and just claimed it as gold.


That is indeed the way these things go. One industry joke is Shipped (to stores) Platinum, returned (from stores) Gold.

When stores return product, the sales #s do not come off the sales award accreditations.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby Rockindeano » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:28 pm

Andrew wrote:
Monker wrote:Or, they shipped 500,000 units and just claimed it as gold.


That is indeed the way these things go. One industry joke is Shipped (to stores) Platinum, returned (from stores) Gold.

When stores return product, the sales #s do not come off the sales award accreditations.


I assume that is because once printed, and shipped, unsold units returned to warehouses may still be sold without having a "new run" made; with the assumption they will eventually be sold. Makes sense actually..Until 400,000 units are sitting in an warehouse somewhere for 5 years..amd have NOT been sold.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby amaron » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:48 am

Andrew wrote:Steve Perry - Greatest Hits + Five - 93,535

Now THAT is interesting.
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Postby DreamAfterDream » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:09 am

I'm guessing the story with Greatest Hits +5 is that a lot of people are like me, I keep thinking I ought to pick that up some day then something always comes along which I get more enthused about. I guess I was never over the moon about either of Perry's albums as a whole, so I'm not in any hurry to hear what was left off those albums.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:56 am

Dream, I got that cd...

It has a lot of Sam Cooke style music on there, and I like a lot of it actually.

It's not bad...not great either.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby thebook » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:49 am

Andrew wrote:
Monker wrote:Or, they shipped 500,000 units and just claimed it as gold.


That is indeed the way these things go. One industry joke is Shipped (to stores) Platinum, returned (from stores) Gold.

When stores return product, the sales #s do not come off the sales award accreditations.

This is soundscan at retail stores only, correct? this would not count any other sales, for example, music clubs.
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Postby AR » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:59 am

I assume that is because once printed, and shipped, unsold units returned to warehouses may still be sold without having a "new run" made; with the assumption they will eventually be sold. Makes sense actually..Until 400,000 units are sitting in an warehouse somewhere for 5 years..amd have NOT been sold.


The Kiss solo albums in 1978 all shipped Platinum. They were certified as such if I'm not mistaken. However, actual sales were disappointing and they ended up in the cut out bin. Sounds like a similar kind of thing.

I'm very impressed that Arrival is at around 200,000 units. Had it received any radio play at all it could have been a really big seller IMO.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:18 am

:? Why can we never get 'WORLDWIDE' figures? For instance, aren't there sales charts for Australia, UK, Germany, Japan, Brazil...etc?? Isn't there a place to get combined figures? Is an artist's success based soley on USA sales figures? Of course not.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:25 am

jrnyjetster wrote::? Why can we never get 'WORLDWIDE' figures? For instance, aren't there sales charts for Australia, UK, Germany, Japan, Brazil...etc?? Isn't there a place to get combined figures? Is an artist's success based soley on USA sales figures? Of course not.


Good question.

I always here how Journey has sold 75 million albums.

I really question that. According to RIAA, 41 million have been sold in the US. Are you telling me 34 million other units were moved worldwide? Hmm, I don't know on that one.
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby Vladan » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:30 am

Andrew wrote:Journey - Raised On Radio - 10,356,878


Wow, thats a fair bit
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Re: Sales Numbers

Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:29 am

Vladan wrote:
Andrew wrote:Journey - Raised On Radio - 10,356,878


Wow, thats a fair bit
:!:


:?: :?:

Where did you see that!?
Or is this your way of professing your love of ROR?
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:39 am

Nice try there Einstien.

I just looked.

ROR came out APR of 1986.

Went Platinum in June of 86, and double platinum in 1989.

Hardly 10 million units...
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Postby Vladan » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:20 am

Just a joke lads, just an attempt.

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