Which current member could the band afford to lose.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:08 am

Frankly, I enjoy this lineup just perfectly the way it is, however, if the unthinkable were to occur, which current member could the lineup afford to lose and yet still prevail?

My answer:
Ross (C'mon, that was obvious.)

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:20 am

Yeah, I voted Ross, too. But I could easily give up Jon if it were to get Gregg back!

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:23 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Yeah, I voted Ross, too. But I could easily give up Jon if it were to get Gregg back!

I used to think that, too.
But nowadays I'm not so sure.
Jon's adds more of a melodic touch then Gregg does.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:57 am

I don't like the question, because I think we need all of them, due the their chemistry.

The ONLY person I feel we CANNOT lose is Neal.

You could lose Ross. Pick up a bass player.
You could lose Deen. He is a good drummer but you can find another. His vocals though you couldn't lose(backup).
You could lose Augeri. If one HAD to go, I would pick Augeri. I am really disappointed in the boots I have of him lately.
Cain is tough. He is such a songwriting staple. He sings lead on about 4 or 5 songs.

You should have included Iriving/Barouck.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:00 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:You could lose Augeri. If one HAD to go, I would pick Augeri. I am really disappointed in the boots I have of him lately.

I disagree somewhat. The CasinoRama '05 boot that Eric kindly sent to me is the best Augeri's ever sung in his whole life. If you dislike how he sounded on this tour, then what did u think of him on tours of the past.
At least now he hits all the high notes.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:06 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:You could lose Augeri. If one HAD to go, I would pick Augeri. I am really disappointed in the boots I have of him lately.

I disagree somewhat. The CasinoRama '05 boot that Eric kindly sent to me is the best Augeri's ever sung in his whole life. If you dislike how he sounded on this tour, then what did u think of him on tours of the past.
At least now he hits all the high notes.

Go listen to Just the Same Way on the Toronto boot. Ugh.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:08 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Go listen to Just the Same Way on the Toronto boot. Ugh.

Did they even play that?
I thought they did 'Feeling that Way' and 'Anytime' instead.
Either way, Augeri sounds solid throughout the Toronto boot to me.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:21 am

9th song.

There are others too.

by **A Fire Inside** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:56 am

Ross. Definitely Ross.

You can't afford to lose Augeri because without Augeri, we probably wouldn't have seen Generations. Remember how he got everyone moving to make a new CD?

by **Hippie** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:12 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:Yeah, I voted Ross, too. But I could easily give up Jon if it were to get Gregg back!

I used to think that, too.
But nowadays I'm not so sure.
Jon's adds more of a melodic touch then Gregg does.

Yeah, but they had a much more soulful sound when Rolie was there. ROCK with just a touch of Blues. Cain's outstanding, but I REALLY miss Rolie!

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:15 am

Hippie wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:Yeah, I voted Ross, too. But I could easily give up Jon if it were to get Gregg back!

I used to think that, too.
But nowadays I'm not so sure.
Jon's adds more of a melodic touch then Gregg does.

Yeah, but they had a much more soulful sound when Rolie was there. ROCK with just a touch of Blues. Cain's outstanding, but I REALLY miss Rolie!

Exactly.
I was going to say to TNC 'why do we need a more melodic touch'?

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:05 pm

I would say Augeri. They have to find someone as good as, or better than Perry, to lead them in the new direction they want. Please don't stone me. It's my honest opinion. They need someone unique and outstanding, as this is what is expected from Journey, by many of the fans, imo.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:09 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:I would say Augeri. They have to find someone as good as, or better than Perry, to lead them in the new direction they want. Please don't stone me. It's my honest opinion. They need someone unique and outstanding, as this is what is expected from Journey, by many of the fans, imo.

The problem is, there will NEVER be anyone as good as Perry, in this lifetime or last, or next.

by **amaron** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:10 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:They have to find someone as good as, or better than Perry, to lead them in the new direction they want.

They did.

heardonthestreet wrote:They need someone unique and outstanding, as this is what is expected from Journey, by many of the fans, imo.

Yeah, because a certain portion of Journey "fans" really would give someone other than UnPerry a chance. :roll:

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:11 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:I would say Augeri. They have to find someone as good as, or better than Perry, to lead them in the new direction they want. Please don't stone me. It's my honest opinion. They need someone unique and outstanding, as this is what is expected from Journey, by many of the fans, imo.

The problem is, there will NEVER be anyone as good as Perry, in this lifetime or last, or next.

Ahh, that's where you're wrong:
Kevin Chalfant is more then capable to carry the torch.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:13 pm

Fuck this.

I am going to say it.

We need Perry back. We need to re-unite, have one colossal tour, and end it. Because if a re-union tour does not happen, the Journey is over.

I would be shocked if they didn't announce Perry back in the band within 6 months. trust me on this.

by **Vladan** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:17 pm

If they could lose Steve Perry (which would of sounded obserd back in the 80's) - I feel they could lose Steve Augeri just the same way in 2005, and probably wouldn't jolt the music industry in the slightest, but it would most definetly hurt the fans.

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:17 pm

I still think that they needed a Gabriel/Collins type of change. Both unique, great, but different.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:20 pm

I don't see another date from this lineup.

I see Perry back in 6 months. Anyone care to wager? Hell, I'll give you odds.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:22 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:Maybe, Noble, but I still think that they needed a Gabriel/Collins type of change, Both unique, great, but different.

Call me crazy, HOTS, but I always thought Phil and Peter had similar voices.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:22 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:.

I am going to say it.

We need Perry back. We need to re-unite, have one colossal tour, and end it. Because if a re-union tour does not happen, the Journey is over.

I would be shocked if they didn't announce Perry back in the band within 6 months. trust me on this.

Dude , what are you on. Perry is the voice of Rock, but Journey needs Perry for commercial susses, but not more musical success. I have been more than happy with Arrival and Generations (2nd fav JRNY cd). Perry may bring bugger audience, but Perry comes back, they are dead.
AS far as the boots, remember that is what they are boots. Perry and Augeri are both good and bad on boots.

I guess RD is heading over to the Perry board nowadays huh :wink:

-ERIC

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:23 pm

It would finally get them into the HOF, Dean.

by **Vladan** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:24 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:I don't see another date from this lineup.

I see Perry back in 6 months. Anyone care to wager?

I hope you are correct!. That would be awesome.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:27 pm

Wow. I mention Perry in positive light, and now I am seen as a prophet.

"On your knees little Hottsie! Before me!" Hahaha

I could dig that. :lol:

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:31 pm

Not to me, Noble. I like Gabriel better but Collins has a better stage presence. I don't think that they sound alike. jmho

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:32 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Wow. I mention Perry in positive light, and now I am seen as a prophet.

"On your knees little Hottsie! Before me!" Hahaha

I could dig that.

Or someone in need of medication or stright jacket :wink:

Hope you over come this, well it was fun while it lasted

-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:34 pm

Hey Dean, I just givin you a hard time, so be chill in your response

Hope your wrong on your prediction. Good for a Perry farewell, but not to continue. Augeri is the one-ERIC

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:34 pm

ERIC, you know I love you, but let me say it like this......

The book you're reading? It's missing a very important chapter. And I have that chapter, and no one else does.

Is that a hint or what?

by **Argus** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:42 pm

Do you all know what a wanker is :?:

wait I guess you all do because this topic is a lesson in wanking of the first order :roll:

by **Andrew** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:42 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote: It's missing a very important chapter. And I have that chapter, and no one else does.

Really Deano? NO ONE ELSE?

MR

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