Journey Generations DVD 2005 ???!!!

[NealIsGod]

This board survives on fighting and Dean's dramatics, not Journey.

Ohsherrie, I don't mean to get in the way of yours & NIG's arguement
I just wanted to ask your permission to use your last sentence on my signature may I?

See? You all love this. Stop acting like you don't.

[jrnyman28]

Oh geez whatever. All he needs to do it just drop the whole drama/innuendo stuff and get on with his life. He's got this whole place on his emotional rollercoaster and not being an Adrenaline junky, it's tedious. I'll quit bringing it up [whatever it is]

Bullseye!! Give the man the grand prize!!

Maybe this would be more appropriately named The Team Dean Amusement House.

Hey Sherrie, you comin' back because Deano left?
Or are you simply trying to bait a response from HIM?

[jrnyman28]

The site is in desperate need of a redesign. But it IS in the works. I know the guy who did the framework of George and Ross' sites. If he is able to free up enough time he might be taking on Deen's and Journey's sites as well. Maybe then we will see some real content. But of course, it still has to "come from Journey"...

Who is that anyway?

Who is working on the sites? Well, I don't know if I should say because I could be incorrect in my info or I could have said something that is not "for sure" yet. I do not want to get him in any trouble becuase he has been on the outs with Neal before. But from time to time he posts here and at BT. If it's ok to say so, he will.

I do know that there are plans for each member of Journey to have an "official" site on the same server as Journey's. I do know that Deen's Unofficial site was shut down due to some conflict with his webmistress and his site was on the Journey server. But they said it was partly due to the creation of the "official" sites. And I do know that Ross is very happy with his work, so is George. That has gone a long way to giving him the shot at the other sites. But workload is an issue. And so is Neal.

[jrnyman28]

You guys were on here whining and making up shit to talk about when you had noone to fight with.

Really? What was "being made up"?

That's all you're here for. There was no action when we all went to the Perry board, so you did all you could to bait us there.

But you said we had no one to fight with....seems to me that "you" all were still "here". But do tell, how were "we" baiting "you"?

When there wasn't enough response to that you imported trouble from other boards.

To be fair, one person may have done that. But it is valid when giving examples of the 2-faced behaviour of many...

Besides, haven't you kept up? It's all about "proof" nowadays!

That's why I responded to Ace's post. He had it right. This board survives on fighting and Dean's dramatics, not Journey.

You are wrong. Yes Dean creates a lot of activity. Seems to me that if "you" all ignored him there would never have been any "dramatics". But it was the S.O.S. on the Perry Board that created the flare-up. A Perry fan doesn't want to hear anything negative about her god so she starts spouting her own sort of rules. That created the problem...

[mrsp]

jrnyman 28: Deen's former website was his OFFICIAL website. It was shut down by me (the webmistress) for a variety of reasons.
The person who designed and still operates Journey's site and Ross's site is scheduled to design websites for the remaining band members. Part of the reason for this is to simplify distribution of funds from sales. I know who you are refering to. Good luck to him. He'll need it.

[jrnyman28]

jrnyman 28: Deen's former website was his OFFICIAL website. It was shut down by me (the webmistress) for a variety of reasons.

Fair enough, I was only going off Mark's word. That was the closest thing to "official" I could get.

The person who designed and still operates Journey's site and Ross's site is scheduled to design websites for the remaining band members. Part of the reason for this is to simplify distribution of funds from sales. I know who you are refering to. Good luck to him. He'll need it.

Actually, I guess I was off the mark a little. I was not referring to Mark, who is involved with Journey's site. But whoever works on it...you are correct, they are going to need the best of luck.

[NealIsGod]

Hey Sherrie, you comin' back because Deano left?
Or are you simply trying to bait a response from HIM?

She is a master baiter!

[mrsp]

The person I am referring to in my last statement is not Mark (who like I said, is currently employed as Journey's website designer/operator) but the person who apparently is hoping to do some Journey-related site work in addition to the Tickner site.

[A Fire Inside]

Who designed Neal's official site then, if it wasn't the same person that did Ross and Tickner's?

BT is saying Bananas Alan did Neal's, but I didn't know he was a web designer...

[jrnyman28]

The person I am referring to in my last statement is not Mark (who like I said, is currently employed as Journey's website designer/operator) but the person who apparently is hoping to do some Journey-related site work in addition to the Tickner site.

OK, then I guess we are on the same page...

[Greg]

Hey Sherrie, you comin' back because Deano left?
Or are you simply trying to bait a response from HIM?

She is a master baiter!

[lshphrd]

The problem with the website is that the moderators and the management people are not "running" things. There is a group of people that
manage to be in the middle of things all the time. They seem to dictate the way things are done and run., When the management, "fan club"
and moderators realize this and take back the control, then things will
actually change and not until then. They have one set of rules for everyone else and the "others" do whatever they want.
When you speak your mind and stick up for yourself they shut down the thread. That is just wrong.
The "others" think they are more important and better "fans then everyone else as they can do what they want and get privalges.
They put on a good act in front of the band and then treat the rest of the
people like dirt., That is wrong too.
I think Journey needs to take a look at things. Release more dvds, live tracks. downloads. Take advantage of the digital age.
Get you music out there to the public.
There wouldn;t be bootleg dvds out there if they just released
something other than the "greatest Hits"
Red 13 and generations had some songs that kicked ass.
Lets hear that rather than the "oldies" all the time.

[Abitaman]

The problem with the website is that the moderators and the management people are not "running" things. There is a group of people that
manage to be in the middle of things all the time. They seem to dictate the way things are done and run., When the management, "fan club"
and moderators realize this and take back the control, then things will
actually change and not until then. They have one set of rules for everyone else and the "others" do whatever they want.
When you speak your mind and stick up for yourself they shut down the thread. That is just wrong.
The "others" think they are more important and better "fans then everyone else as they can do what they want and get privalges.
They put on a good act in front of the band and then treat the rest of the
people like dirt., That is wrong too.
I think Journey needs to take a look at things. Release more dvds, live tracks. downloads. Take advantage of the digital age.
Get you music out there to the public.
There wouldn;t be bootleg dvds out there if they just released
something other than the "greatest Hits"
Red 13 and generations had some songs that kicked ass.
Lets hear that rather than the "oldies" all the time.

Wel said, and highly agreed on, at least by me-ERIC

[Jeremey]

The problem with the website is that the moderators and the management people are not "running" things. There is a group of people that
manage to be in the middle of things all the time. They seem to dictate the way things are done and run., When the management, "fan club"
and moderators realize this and take back the control, then things will
actually change and not until then. They have one set of rules for everyone else and the "others" do whatever they want.
When you speak your mind and stick up for yourself they shut down the thread. That is just wrong.
The "others" think they are more important and better "fans then everyone else as they can do what they want and get privalges.
They put on a good act in front of the band and then treat the rest of the
people like dirt., That is wrong too.
I think Journey needs to take a look at things. Release more dvds, live tracks. downloads. Take advantage of the digital age.
Get you music out there to the public.
There wouldn;t be bootleg dvds out there if they just released
something other than the "greatest Hits"
Red 13 and generations had some songs that kicked ass.
Lets hear that rather than the "oldies" all the time.

Bingo. Journey's official website isn't embraced by the group at all, but a group of people for whom the thrill of somehow being peripherally involved with Journey in some way shape or form. This isn't a personal bash at anyone in the band, but I get the feeling that there isn't a real direction from the group as a whole, aside from touring every year and wearing out another singer's voice in the name of the almighty dollar.

[lshphrd]

The problem with the website is that the moderators and the management people are not "running" things. There is a group of people that
manage to be in the middle of things all the time. They seem to dictate the way things are done and run., When the management, "fan club"
and moderators realize this and take back the control, then things will
actually change and not until then. They have one set of rules for everyone else and the "others" do whatever they want.
When you speak your mind and stick up for yourself they shut down the thread. That is just wrong.
The "others" think they are more important and better "fans then everyone else as they can do what they want and get privalges.
They put on a good act in front of the band and then treat the rest of the
people like dirt., That is wrong too.
I think Journey needs to take a look at things. Release more dvds, live tracks. downloads. Take advantage of the digital age.
Get you music out there to the public.
There wouldn;t be bootleg dvds out there if they just released
something other than the "greatest Hits"
Red 13 and generations had some songs that kicked ass.
Lets hear that rather than the "oldies" all the time.

Bingo. Journey's official website isn't embraced by the group at all, but a group of people for whom the thrill of somehow being peripherally involved with Journey in some way shape or form. This isn't a personal bash at anyone in the band, but I get the feeling that there isn't a real direction from the group as a whole, aside from touring every year and wearing out another singer's voice in the name of the almighty dollar.

There unfortuatley is a group of people for whom being peripherlaly involved somehow measures their worth or other people;s lack of.
That is cool that they put out generations and red 13.
I think it is time to capitalize on that material and play more of it live.,
They were the begining of last years tour. Then "fans" complained and they cahnged the set list. I for one am alittle sick of chain reaction,
stone in love, don;t stop believin and even lights.
Take a stand and play never too late, state of grace, I can breathe and
better together. I gave someone a copy of generations and they told me some of the songs sounded like their older songs with new words.
I think it is very sad to have to need the kind of attention to be in the middle of things and treat other people like dirt to feel your worth.
I think everyone in the band has talent. I have heard some of the shows from Japan from 2001 and each set list was different. Why can;t they do that here? It is isn;t a surprise that some of the stations only want to play the older songs and not the new ones/. When I mention the band, i stiull get people asking about Steve Perry. One couple in 2003 didn;t know he was not in the band anymore. ????
While I admire each of the band members for their talents and music,
I am confused as to why things are the way they are and why
they don;t capitalize on the newer material and forge a direction
in 2006.

[jrnyman28]

Very true Catlady. They made a mistake a couple years ago by going back to the "dirty dozen" supposedly because 'they were playing new markets that had not seen Journey in a long time'. Then they did Main Event where they 'didn't have enough time' to play anything but the dirty dozen. It went down from there. This year was a step in the right direction, but they still caved to 'pressure'.


Jeremy, you got that right!

[Moon Beam]

I am the first one to agree with all you fans being sick of the oldies
but you know as well as I do that if they didn't play these songs
people would complain,you know it's true.
So why not mix the new with the old.
People don't hear half often enough the likes of Daydream
and People And Places as well as Troubled Child coupled with so
many others and even Precious Time these are all great songs that the old fans know?
I don't think they can stand on all new material yet but some folks are sick of the chart toppers.
Journey in it's entirety old and new will still get an audiance but new stuff
or old stuff on it's own will not stand alone....you get my drift?

[sexxymofo]

Pressure , sure they will always cave in cause that's what sells and gets the band noticed. People YEARN for PERRYS VOCALS and for the BAND & PERRY to make AMENDS with each other.
It has AFFECTED them so much that at this point I think that even if they were to reunite they will probably just do fair in sales . Due to the Arguing between them and ALSO us the FANS. Some of you have stated "I will not respect Neal if he takes Perry back" and I am sure it's the same with the Perry fans. Everyone has not moved forward and I'll tell you why becuse Journey split with Perry and in their minds Perry WAS/IS the best suited SINGER for JOURNEY and STILL IS! I'll tell you this much (((((IF)))) Perry comes back then everything will be back on track. I KNOW you people LOVE Agueri and that's fine BUT don't act like he is the NEXT BEST THING THAT'S HAS EVER HAPPENED SINCE TOILET PAPER! I have nothing against your singer I listened he's ok but the MAGIC is NOT THERE!!!!!! Now I know I made a mistake posting this here since you will start throwing rocks in defense of Agueri. I don't care for the guy, I'm sure IF he went on his on he could do ok but with Journey I think he has done just about all there is to do. The FAULT lies on both sides THE BAND for the BREAK UP & THE FANS for not respecting or accepting EVERYONES DECISION!
Now start your attacks get ready

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GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rockindeano]

Wow. What a scintillating post. So informative. gee, perry is the best!


Wow. I am speechless

[Monker]

People YEARN for PERRYS VOCALS

Here is the answer to your entire post.

*IF* people 'yearn' for those vocals, they are the vocals from 198x...not the voice of todays Steve Perry. Steve Perry can't provide that any longer.

So, Journey can either record and tour with a singer who WANTS to record and tour...In fact, it seems Auger wants to record more then the rest of the band...Or, they can 'hope' Perry's mood changes and he persuades himself to record with Journey, or tour with them...and hope he doesn't change his mind in the middle of things, again...and hope that his ragged voice can somehow keep a crowd interested.

Steve Perry's voice is no longer suited for Journey. It's barely acceptable screaching some song after a baseball game.

[sexxymofo]

Wow. What a scintillating post. So informative. gee, perry is the best!
Wow. I am speechless

GEEE, I SEE YOU'RE STILL HANGING AROUND.
KINDA LIKE A PESKY DINGLEBERRY
DO US ALL A FAVOR AND SPILL THE BEANS
C'MON WE ARE ALL USED TO YOUR LIES ANYWAY.

[Rockindeano]

Wow. What a scintillating post. So informative. gee, perry is the best!
Wow. I am speechless

GEEE, I SEE YOU'RE STILL HANGING AROUND.
KINDA LIKE A PESKY DINGLEBERRY
DO US ALL A FAVOR AND SPILL THE BEANS
C'MON WE ARE ALL USED TO YOUR LIES ANYWAY.

I would like to know how many here think I am a liar. bet you can't get 5 people to say so.

Your turn, bitch.

By the way, I am not going anywhere. i want to run over your fat ass, and turn you into a fuckin speed bump.

[Monker]

I may regret saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway.

journeymusic.com has totaly lost focus. It's no longer about the music, it's only about the fans who have nothing better to do then to praise Journey, and each other.

BT is exactly what I did not want it to become when they started tightening down the rules. It's a happyness forum. "I'm so happy!" "I'm glad you are happy!" "I'm happy you are glad!" and on and on and on. Then, if somebody makeis a post that is NOT happy, >poof!<, the thread is closed and if they don't start getting happy, they're banned.

Neal should HATE BT, it's more syrupy then "Open Arms". He should look at that forum and think, "What can I do with this?" Nothing...because he likes to speak his mind and that is not allowed on BT...unless you are happy with everything, all the time.

There is no focus on the music there. Oh, sure, they have the "Street team" forum...But, it has absolutely NO direction from Journey. It's pointless. The user introduction forum is nothing but the old Watercooler. It's also pointless.

Lost in the entire mess is the music. They should kill all of the forums except one and put Journey's MUSIC back as the focus. It just isn't there any longer.

When Journey releases any new music, that site should have it available FIRST. It's THEIR HOMEPAGE. Make some official concert videos downloadable. Make the old MTV videos downloadable. Styx even had a site set up by their road crew where you could watch every concert online.

It's crazy that Journey allows so much of their website's attention be BT and everything else is secondary. In the end, it isn't BT that pays the bills. Somebody critiquing the latest CD on BT isn't going to hurt sales. But, having so little space devoted to their latest music DOES NOT HELP SALES either.

If all they are interested in are the number of hits the site gets, then they should add a porn section...I'm sure that will increase hits more then a web forum. Hits mean absolutely NOTHING if all they are for are to read and post to the forum. Make it a requirement to spend $50/yr at the Journey store before you can post to the forum...and watch those hits fade. BT isn't doing any good for Journey at all.

As for whoever you guys are talking about designing the new site...when Tickner's site launched - NOTHING WORKED. It had a pretty intro pic, and that was it. If that is the type of professionalism Journey wants, well, I guess we'll get a nice new intro pic and nothing else.

The problem with the website is that the moderators and the management people are not "running" things. There is a group of people that
manage to be in the middle of things all the time. They seem to dictate the way things are done and run., When the management, "fan club"
and moderators realize this and take back the control, then things will
actually change and not until then. They have one set of rules for everyone else and the "others" do whatever they want.
When you speak your mind and stick up for yourself they shut down the thread. That is just wrong.
The "others" think they are more important and better "fans then everyone else as they can do what they want and get privalges.
They put on a good act in front of the band and then treat the rest of the
people like dirt., That is wrong too.
I think Journey needs to take a look at things. Release more dvds, live tracks. downloads. Take advantage of the digital age.
Get you music out there to the public.
There wouldn;t be bootleg dvds out there if they just released
something other than the "greatest Hits"
Red 13 and generations had some songs that kicked ass.
Lets hear that rather than the "oldies" all the time.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It has AFFECTED them so much that at this point I think that even if they were to reunite they will probably just do fair in sales . Due to the Arguing between them and ALSO us the FANS.

You're detached from reality. If Perry were to reunite with Journey the sales would be through the roof. A few cyber fans who choose to stay at home don't account to a hill of beans in terms of concert ticket sales.

[Monker]

If Perry were to reunite with Journey the sales would be through the roof.

That's what everybody said for TBF too...and I would not consider TBF's sales 'through the roof'. I have no reason to believe a Perry reunion today would be any different...In fact, I would expect a label to want to press and release a smaller first shipment, just in case Perry needs his other hip replaced.

[sexxymofo]

I would like to know how many here think I am a liar. bet you can't get 5 people to say so.
Your turn, bitch.
By the way, I am not going anywhere. i want to run over your fat ass, and turn you into a fuckin speed bump.[/quote]

ONCE AGAIN I MUST STATE, THIS BOARD IS NOT ABOUT YOU!!!
BUT NO ONE WILL CALL YOU A LIAR SINCE YOU ARE CONSIDER THE BOARD PET AND AMUSE EVERYONE HERE BY PROVIDING BOOTLEGS!
DIDN'T YOU CALL A TRUCE AND SAID YOU WERE LEAVING? ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT A MAN OF YOUR WORD? FROM ALL THE LIES YOU HAVE POSTED I HAVE TO SAY NO YOU ARE NOT A MAN OF WORD! NOW USING PROFANITY IS ALL YOUR GOOD FOR. AM GLAD YOU'LL STICK AROUND BUT REFRAIN FROM THE INSULTS IT IS TIRING YOU HAVE WORN IT OUT ALREADY!

NOW BACK TO THE REGULAR TOPIC!

[Rockindeano]

I will stay here just to exterminate you stupid dumb bitches. I got TNC, 28 and some others to help me.


I am your worst nightmare, skank.

[Clasicrockldy]

I will stay here just to exterminate you stupid dumb bitches. I got TNC, 28 and some others to help me.


I am your worst nightmare, skank.

Count me in if you want, Dean.

[Moon Beam]

sexxymofo~People YEARN for PERRYS VOCALS[/quote]

Monker~Here is the answer to your entire post.
*IF* people 'yearn' for those vocals, they are the vocals from 198x...not the voice of todays Steve Perry. Steve Perry can't provide that any longer.

Me Moon Beam~Have you personally trained Perry in the last 8 years
that you can say this?
I have heard him on studio sit in's with other artists like I am sure
you have and aside from him not singing more on these sessions
I have been satisfied with his voice.

Monker~Steve Perry's voice is no longer suited for Journey.
It's barely acceptable screaching some song after a baseball game.

Me again Moon Beam~I will give you this....He didn't sound as sweetly
as we all know him to.
Again would you make this same statement had he being ready,trained
and up for the performance?....I highly doubt it

Screw .02cents this is my whole nickles worth!

[sexxymofo]

I would like to know how many here think I am a liar. bet you can't get 5 people to say so.

HERE'S AN IDEA WHY NOT MAKE A NEW TOPIC AND ASK THIS QUESTION
MAKE IT A POLL