Lamest Jonathan Cain moment

[The_Noble_Cause]

So you and your tribe will be eating crow also

What's there to eat crow about?
Perry's friend and Sony music insider Jon Kalodner has stated repeatedly that Journey would take Perry back for a tour, an album, whatever, but Perry simply isn't interested in working.
There is nothing to eat crow about here.
Thousands upon thousands of people want to hear Journey's body of work, it only makes sense to have someone sing those songs.

[sexxymofo]

Ok first off, I could careless why SP fired Smith but I do believe SP has said that was a mistake so that would seem to me as an apology of some sorts. No hypocrisy there.

Yes Fleishman is a hypocrite he too like Neal is looking to be acknowledged by the press/public

Ansley Dumbar was let go cause he was sleeping with TEENAGE boys/girls another Fleishman/Neal looking for a spotlight. Hypocrite

Perry was being gracious enough to mention that Fat Turd in his speech.

return to making love with your ugly boyfriend.

Ok this here proves you are ignorant

[The_Noble_Cause]

return to making love with your ugly boyfriend.

Ok this here proves you are ignorant

No, it doesn't.
This here proves you sure are overly sensitive about your ugly boyfriend's appearance though.

[sexxymofo]

The story made the press regardless if Neal hugged Perry or not.

You are only proving my point here FACT is it was Perry being there that was NEWS worthy so Neal saw the oportunity and took it

[sexxymofo]

return to making love with your ugly boyfriend.

Ok this here proves you are ignorant

No, it doesn't.
This here proves you sure are overly sensitive about your ugly boyfriend's appearance though.

Yes it does cause I do not have a boyfriend and incase you want to spin away with this I have no hubby nor a girlfriend
but if you hurry you and I can get it on so then you'd be calling yourself ugly

[sexxymofo]

And I bid you and your gang goodnight & sweetdreams

[The_Noble_Cause]

The story made the press regardless if Neal hugged Perry or not.

You are only proving my point here FACT is it was Perry being there that was NEWS worthy so Neal saw the oportunity and took it

The event attained more publicity owing to Perry's appearance, sure, but that doesn't prove anything with certainty.
Look, when you spend every waking day with someone (like Neal and Perry did), I don't care how badly that friendship may have ended, there will always be a certain nostalgic feeling for that someone.
I've gone to school reunions and hugged pricks I formerly hated.
Who hasn't?
You ladies are really expressing a detachment in the way real life relationships work here.

[Abitaman]

I have to say something about this Neal with Perry picture. Neal is doing no wrong, on this. Just as a Ex husband would hug or kiss an ex wife, this is what Perry and Neal are doing. The kids (fans) are here for this (family reunion) and the two are playing nice, and giving the fans what they want. everyone being nice. This Journey thing is like a divorce. At times all sides have to play nice at times. And over time the whys are not as bad as they once were. So Neal is not a hypocrite.
And like all divorce every one one takes sides. One side calling the other spouse names, like D clone or what ever, when the fact that they are jealous. Yes Jealous that it isn't there "one" in with the band or family.
So all you people calling Augeri names, get over it and move on. Perry is divorced from the family. One day they maybe friends again, so till then, don't make a fool of yourself, by saying things that you may have to eat crow on later, or put yourself outside the family.-ERIC

Abita my man inorder to be JEALOUS of your DCLONE he would have to have more than what Perry was/is so take your shit and shove it somewhere else I do want to address this here quote of yours,

One day they maybe friends again, so till then, don't make a fool of yourself, by saying things that you may have to eat crow on later, or put yourself outside the family.-ERIC

So you and your tribe will be eating crow also

I have ate crow from time to time. Found it best with hot peppers and tabasco. It is better than humble pie. But I'm not wrong on this. We all get mad and speak at times before we know the whole story. So I'm saying we DO NOT know what Perry or Schon really think of each other. And to sit here and say one his a hypocrite because they got their picture together is wrong, it is a press ploy. Do you know this? Do I? The answer is NO to both. So why go on.

In your ears Augeri maybe a D class clone. To be honest At Perry's best anyone is D class, well some people like Chaflant, DeYoung would be B class. But The Voice is out of the business. So someone had to step up. Augeri is fine replacement. Is he Perry? NO. He has to be able to sing "like" Perry, but not be Perry. Hugo is a Perry clone (pretty good one too!). But Journey doesn't need Hugo. Then they would have a Perry clone. Augeri is his own singer, and is Journey's singer, for however long that maybe. Right now it is 8 years and counting.
I ask you one question, If not Augeri then who? Can't be Perry, he doesn't want it, and is not up to it. So who?-ERIC

[sexxymofo]

Abita, the point here is Neal & Jon shouldn't have continued with the name Jouerney for it was not complete with out Perry. He is the most noticeable factor of the band, the band is missing the most important key element. Now don't get your panties in a bunch, but they were wrong to continue and keep playing the journey music with a new singer no matter who it was, everyone was going to compare'em to Steve Perry cause quite frankly those are some big shoes to fill. I say to you why didn't they wait a little while longer after all Perry did have the surgery and why didn't Neal retire Journey right there and there and form a new band. I'll tell you why cause people like you and I will dish out loads of cash for that Journey music as oppose to a new band of his. I think in all honesty here that Neal wanted to be a household name and thought once Perry was out of the picture that he would accomplish this, (Neal isn't stupid he picked a lesser known singer & thought that noone would pay attention to the lead and focus more on his guitar playing) but to his surprise he is right back in the garage band stage as they were before Perry joined and took them to superstardome. I say they shot themselves on the foot and I can see them regretting it deeply. Now if only Jon, Neal & Perry would sit in a room and reflect on the good old days and make amends, would be awesome to think of what could emerge from that. I can hope can't I?

[sexxymofo]

And I bid you and your gang goodnight & sweetdreams

Ok, Ok I am off to bed seriously.
Good night All!

[Rockindeano]

sexxydumbass,

I don't even read your posts..nice waste of time..

[sexxymofo]

sexxydumbass,

I don't even read your posts..nice waste of time..

Rocn'homo I was told to leave you alone so I will obey

[jrnyman28]

And as Dave28 keenly observed, his eyes were dry as the Sahara during the whole scene.

Yep!
I can picture Jon (the sensitive one) to cry when his Earl Tea is not hot enough! Tears streaming down his face if his bagel is not toasted! I do not doubt that he was upset at one time...but not here...

[jrnyman28]

I recall tears.
Don't really care enough to go double check my copy of BTM.

Nope!

[jrnyman28]

I thought he came across as intelligent, introspective and gracious,

No.

whereas Jon came off looking bitter and resentful. As did Neal to a degree, just with a more "hey I'm so cool, man" face on it.

I think they had a right to look "resentful". I am feel they had good reason to "resent" Perry back then.

But I think they have since "let it go". Which "we all should". But yes, there will be more replies to follow...

Just because the "never felt like part of the band" was put in at the end, it doesn't mean he meant it to apply to his entire tenure with Journey. I think he was talking about the time when CBS and Herbie first put him into the band and they all resented him.

I totally believe that that line was used for "sensationalism"! I think Perry said to evoke responses and I think the rest of the band were "surprised" by it for dramatic effect!

[jrnyman28]

I thought it was gracious of him that he didn't badmouth anyone. He just told it like it was from his point of view.

As did Neal and Jon.

He didn't display any attitude,

I admit I have rarely ever seen "attitude" from Perry when performing "publicity"...

The other guys, even though they didn't overtly say much that was negative about him, they said a lot with the way they presented what the said.

Probably had a lot to do with Perry's editorial control...

[jrnyman28]

, irks me not! Really he has the SAME expression in ALL his photos? C'mon Noble take your head out of your ass for once and acknowledged that Neal is a hypocrite I will respect you a bit more if you did!

Neal's smile and that of the Joker in TNC's avatar are eerily similar...very plastic looking.

Neal and Perry both hammed up the publicity.

But remember, Neal and the guys supposedly did not even know Perry was going to be there. Yet you are accusing them of milking publicity? Spur of the moment reaction...nothing more.

[jrnyman28]

Hypocrite is definitely the right word for Neal!

Neal bad mouthed him publicly, LONG AFTER Perry was no longer in Journey, & then Neal throws his arm around Perry like that was his best bud. That was clearly a publicity stunt by Neal. Just TRYING to make himself look good in the press!

Lori

You say "long after" and yet it has been equally as long since Neal has said anything bad about Perry. In fact, for the last several years Neal and Jon have obviously gotten past their times with Perry and have been respectful of "what was".

[jrnyman28]

Abita my man inorder to be JEALOUS of your DCLONE he would have to have more than what Perry was/is so take your shit and shove it somewhere else I do want to address this here quote of yours,

Not true at all. Ex's are often jealous of anyone who 'taken their place'. It has more to do with the "new person" having what the ex no longer does...nothing more!

[jrnyman28]

Perry was being gracious enough to mention that Fat Turd in his speech.

Right....so Perry was not looking to be acknowledged by the press??

[jrnyman28]

Abita, the point here is Neal & Jon shouldn't have continued with the name Jouerney for it was not complete with out Perry.

Wrong.

He is the most noticeable factor of the band,

Right.

the band is missing the most important key element.

Wrong. "Important"? Yes. "Most important"? No.

they were wrong to continue and keep playing the journey music with a new singer no matter who it was,

It was their right to do. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, (I am damn glad they did though) but it is still their right. Therefore, you are wrong.

everyone was going to compare'em to Steve Perry cause quite frankly those are some big shoes to fill.

Right.

I say to you why didn't they wait a little while longer after all Perry did have the surgery

Because they could still be waiting. Why didn't Perry let them know what he was thinking about doing? Why didn't Perry keep them informed?

and why didn't Neal retire Journey right there and there and form a new band.

Neal has said that "his guitar was singing Journey again". Sums it all up to me. It was Neal's band. There was a Journey before. It was his right to continue.

I think in all honesty here that Neal wanted to be a household name and thought once Perry was out of the picture that he would accomplish this,

Maybe. And, as Jon said, Neal had this shot to "get his band back". I have no doubt that some of the decisions were based on the negative feelings Neal had for Perry back then. But so what?

Now if only Jon, Neal & Perry would sit in a room and reflect on the good old days and make amends, would be awesome to think of what could emerge from that. I can hope can't I?

Wouldn't that be "hypocritical"?

[heardonthestreet]

[quote="sexxymofo"]Abita, the point here is Neal & Jon shouldn't have continued with the name Jouerney for it was not complete with out Perry. He is the most noticeable factor of the band, the band is missing the most important key element. Now don't get your panties in a bunch, but they were wrong to continue and keep playing the journey music with a new singer no matter who it was, everyone was going to compare'em to Steve Perry cause quite frankly those are some big shoes to fill. I say to you why didn't they wait a little while longer after all Perry did have the surgery and why didn't Neal retire Journey right there and there and form a new band. I'll tell you why cause people like you and I will dish out loads of cash for that Journey music as oppose to a new band of his. I think in all honesty here that Neal wanted to be a household name and thought once Perry was out of the picture that he would accomplish this, (Neal isn't stupid he picked a lesser known singer & thought that noone would pay attention to the lead and focus more on his guitar playing) but to his surprise he is right back in the garage band stage as they were before Perry joined and took them to superstardome. I say they shot themselves on the foot and I can see them regretting it deeply. Now if only Jon, Neal & Perry would sit in a room and reflect on the good old days and make amends, would be awesome to think of what could emerge from that. I can hope can't I? [/quote


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Best post of the day!

[Rockindeano]

sexxydumbass,

I don't even read your posts..nice waste of time..

Rocn'homo I was told to leave you alone so I will obey

By whom? Andrew? Bullshit. Bring it on Skank.

[sexxymofo]

sexxydumbass,

I don't even read your posts..nice waste of time..

Rocn'homo I was told to leave you alone so I will obey

By whom? Andrew? Bullshit. Bring it on Skank.

Andrew sir, umm whom is provoking whom here?

[sexxymofo]

Bump!

[Abitaman]

Abita, the point here is Neal & Jon shouldn't have continued with the name Jouerney for it was not complete with out Perry. He is the most noticeable factor of the band, the band is missing the most important key element. Now don't get your panties in a bunch, but they were wrong to continue and keep playing the journey music with a new singer no matter who it was, everyone was going to compare'em to Steve Perry cause quite frankly those are some big shoes to fill. I say to you why didn't they wait a little while longer after all Perry did have the surgery and why didn't Neal retire Journey right there and there and form a new band. I'll tell you why cause people like you and I will dish out loads of cash for that Journey music as oppose to a new band of his. I think in all honesty here that Neal wanted to be a household name and thought once Perry was out of the picture that he would accomplish this, (Neal isn't stupid he picked a lesser known singer & thought that noone would pay attention to the lead and focus more on his guitar playing) but to his surprise he is right back in the garage band stage as they were before Perry joined and took them to superstardome. I say they shot themselves on the foot and I can see them regretting it deeply. Now if only Jon, Neal & Perry would sit in a room and reflect on the good old days and make amends, would be awesome to think of what could emerge from that. I can hope can't I?

My point was, as you saw, who could replace Perry, or who would be able to carry on as Perry. No one!!!!!!!! Perry is the voice of rock. Anyone would be compared to him is right. But were you and I disagree is the band going on. I think they did the right thing and picked a great replacement. Someone who can sing the old songs, and not be a clone, but his own man. You, if I'm not wrong in saying this, and several others, think there is no Journey without Perry and NO ONE, not even if we were to clone a new Perry, would be able to replace THE Perry.
I think we have a better chanced of seeing a cloned Perry, before we see Perry himself back in the band. Not saying it will never happen, but I don't see it. I like the Perry days, but I think the band did the right thing by moving on.
And no , no wades, or bunches, just wedgies-ERIC

[Red13JoePa]

, irks me not! Really he has the SAME expression in ALL his photos? C'mon Noble take your head out of your ass for once and acknowledged that Neal is a hypocrite I will respect you a bit more if you did!

Neal and Perry both hammed up the publicity.

But remember, Neal and the guys supposedly did not even know Perry was going to be there. Yet you are accusing them of milking publicity? Spur of the moment reaction...nothing more.

Stole my thunder. Er, 28: Thank you SO much for blasting this "hypocrite/Neal's nice to Perry cuz the press is around Perry" bullshit argument out the water.
The WOF for Journey was going on WITH or WITHOUT THE VOICE ( ). So if ANYBODY road coattails for a little pub it was SP. I don't necessarily agree that was the case either but this hypocrite crap about Neal is just that.

[heardonthestreet]

No, Perry came to greet his fans and to tell the fans that the band was shit without the fans and I took it to mean that since the majority of the fans have deserted the sinking ship,well...........enought said!

[jrnyman28]

and I took it to mean that since the majority of the fans have deserted the sinking ship,well...........enought said!

He could have said "yellow and blue make green" and you would have "took it to mean" something about Journey as it is today....

[heardonthestreet]

But he didn't say yellow and blue makes green! He said what I posted. Are you surmising again, Dave? Don't tell me what I might think? I told you what I thought. Think what you like but as far as posting what you think that I think is showing stupidity on your part, because you're only surmising and that makes you look more foolish than you already are. Think about it!