
I guess that's the reason CD burners were made... or at least one reason... you can make your own VH III without HMSI, if you like.
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Greggie wrote:"Without You" and "Fire In The Hole" was played quite a bit around my neck of the woods. Another song I liked off of III was "The One I Want." I loved the verses in the songs.....good stuff!
VH101 wrote:Toast!!! Thanks for your input. I feel as though I have known you for over 15 years! Could that be possible? Nice avatar too!
VH101 wrote:Fernando, does Gary's voice sound out of place only because you're comparing it to previous VH albums? And, why can't this album be considered on a level different than what was presented with 'Fair Warning?' As far as the lyrics, "Ballot or the Bullet" and "Josephina" seem pretty solid to me, and I have just sung along with the lyrics to both of them. Please expound!
Thanks!
Fernando Ramirez wrote:I'm all for listening to something new. I would love it if VH did something different (for example, like the way Queen kept reinventing itself, or the way U2 reinvents itself musically)...
VH101 wrote:Then you must rate U2's 'Pop' as one of their greatest albums?
NealIsGod wrote:What if you were just expecting yet another great VH album?
UnderTheFridge wrote:
The music world had also changed, thanks to the grunge epidemic. This was also a concern for Eddie. Another famous rumour has it that Eddie cried "You guys have ruined me" on Kurt Cobains shoulder at the American Music Awards.
Red13JoePa wrote:I wonder that too. Starting with name.
III Sides is an excellent record. Very sophistocated.
Not as good as VH III, thogh, IMO
Red13JoePa wrote:They can go right to the upper echelon again with a release with sam or dave (both both!!!) fronting. They have that exemption from irrelevance forever.
NealIsGod wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:I wonder that too. Starting with name.
III Sides is an excellent record. Very sophistocated.
Not as good as VH III, thogh, IMO
You are a relentless proponent of VHIII, arentcha 13?
Paddywagon wrote:Boy, you nailed it, Fernando!!!![]()
Sounds to me like Cherone just sang over some Eddie riffs in the studio...the melody lines aren't there at all...
I remember the VH 3 radio special that came out at the time (and this sums it all up for me)
I think it was Matt Pinsky (the host) who asked Gary about one of the songs, what the song was about, or something to that effect, and Gary actually asked "Which song is that one??!!" Gary didn't even know what song he was talking about!!! Sheesh!!
UnderTheFridge wrote:I've always been a staunch hater of Van Halens only album with the hapless Gary Cherone. Every now and then I'll get it out for a listen, if only to reaffirm my thoughts. Well, after reading an old review, last night I decided to drag that sucker out for a spin. I cranked it up and sure enough, I wasn't imagining things, it was the same old crap. But then I began thinking about the time it was released and Van Halens place in the world.
Rumour has it that Eddie VH was somewhat worried about the age factor of Sammy Hagar (he turned 50 in 1998). Eddie was looking towards the future and he didn't know how long Sammy could sustain the pace (as it turns out, the exact reverse has happened - but thats another thread).
The music world had also changed, thanks to the grunge epidemic. This was also a concern for Eddie. Another famous rumour has it that Eddie cried "You guys have ruined me" on Kurt Cobains shoulder at the American Music Awards.
So what was the solution? Well, for Eddie, it was simple. Out with the old, in with the new. Replace your aging lead singer with a younger more contempary singer ala Gary Cherone and update your sound. No more big ballads, this was the 90s, "R'n'R and fun" was an oxymoron. If you were a serious band, you wrote serious songs. And thats exactly what VH did.
After listening to the album in this light, I have slightly more respect for what the boys were trying to achieve. Sure, the albums still not great. There are some glaring deficiencies, and I'm sure if the boys had their time again they would've done things differently. But, they stuffed up, so what, they should've moved on and continued with Gary. But instead they've now become everything Eddie dreaded - a R'n'R Dinosaur. No wonder Eddie's a drunk.
VH101 wrote:I wonder if Ed, Al, and maybe Mike really liked Extreme's 'III Sides To Every Story' and were trying to create something similar. There are parallels between the two albums: "Am I Ever Gonna Change"-"How Many Say I"; "Politicalamity"-"Ballot or the Bullet"or"Dirty Water Dog". Not that 'VH3' is anywhere near as good as 'III Sides,' but I think there's a connection (besides Gary). It's as if 'VH3' was an unstructured attempt at a 'III Sides'-type album.
Fernando Ramirez wrote:VH101 wrote:I wonder if Ed, Al, and maybe Mike really liked Extreme's 'III Sides To Every Story' and were trying to create something similar. There are parallels between the two albums: "Am I Ever Gonna Change"-"How Many Say I"; "Politicalamity"-"Ballot or the Bullet"or"Dirty Water Dog". Not that 'VH3' is anywhere near as good as 'III Sides,' but I think there's a connection (besides Gary). It's as if 'VH3' was an unstructured attempt at a 'III Sides'-type album.
Very interesting. I think Extreme's III Sides to Every Story is brilliant. VH III is not a pimple on the ass of Extreme's album. The way NUNO was playing back then... made it simply brilliant.
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