"We live to be free..."

[TRAGChick]

"they can't tell us; they CAN'T tell us...how to BE!"

"Liberty" should be the Unofficial NA....found this song again, going thru my collection...a perfect song to compliment a perfect-weather Spring day.

[Rockindeano]

"they can't tell us; they CAN'T tell us...how to BE!"

"Liberty" should be the Unofficial NA....found this song again, going thru my collection...a perfect song to compliment a perfect-weather Spring day.

You do live under a rock, don't yo Nora?

"They" can't tell us how to be? Are you high? They ,most definetely are telling us how to be.

Censorship
Gas prices
Wars
Pollution
Corruption

Naw, we are doin just fine here in Ameriland, aren't we?

Meanwhile, Argentina is now 100% OIL FREE(yup, 100% corn oil), Canada is now the cleanest country in the world, and the rest of the world has seen the coming of Damien...

[Free]

"they can't tell us; they CAN'T tell us...how to BE!"

"Liberty" should be the Unofficial NA....found this song again, going thru my collection...a perfect song to compliment a perfect-weather Spring day.

You do live under a rock, don't yo Nora?

"They" can't tell us how to be? Are you high? They ,most definetely are telling us how to be.

Censorship
Gas prices
Wars
Pollution
Corruption

Naw, we are doin just fine here in Ameriland, aren't we?

Meanwhile, Argentina is now 100% OIL FREE(yup, 100% corn oil), Canada is now the cleanest country in the world, and the rest of the world has seen the coming of Damien...

Well man, you got at least half right. I"m kinda proud of you. JOKE

[Rockindeano]

Um, well, I got this `100% right.

FUCK YOU.

[Free]

Um, well, I got this `100% right.

FUCK YOU.

Come on man. Have some fun and take a joke. Don't take life so seriously. It's an internet forum. No big deal.

[Rockindeano]

Um, well, I got this `100% right.

FUCK YOU.

Come on man. Have some fun and take a joke. Don't take life so seriously. It's an internet forum. No big deal.

Dude, I am pissed at this "band" if you want to call it that, I HATE my president, despise my Congress, and hate my government...And fools like you ty to find a way to praise W. Unbelievable.

[Free]

Um, well, I got this `100% right.

FUCK YOU.

Come on man. Have some fun and take a joke. Don't take life so seriously. It's an internet forum. No big deal.

Dude, I am pissed at this "band" if you want to call it that, I HATE my president, despise my Congress, and hate my government...And fools like you ty to find a way to praise W. Unbelievable.

Dean, NOT one time have I ever praised him at all!!!!!!

In so far as protecting and defending the constitution, this president is by far the worst in America's history.

1. He did not have Constitutional authority to go to war. Only Congress has that authority.

2. He is allowing our country to be invaded by illegal aliens.

3. He says he is doing everything in his power to wage war on terrorism. THAT IS A FLAT OUT LIE!!!!!! Think about it. If the borders are wide open, it's totally easy for the terrorists to come into our country and attack us that way!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody who believes that Bush is good and moral guy is TOTALLY mislead or nuts.

Now, I don't hate him or the congress or ANYONE for that matter. I don't wish them any ill will, but they are destroying the foundations that made this country the best in the world.

[NealIsGod]

Look...I was just talking about the MUSIC, and how the melody was NICE TO LISTEN TO ON A SPRING DAY!!

So TAKE YOUR NEGATIVITY ELSEWHERE!!!!

You're enjoying your day
Everything's going your way
Then along comes Deano Downer.

Always there to tell you 'bout a new disease
A car accident or killer bees
You beg him to spare you, "Deano, Please!"
But you can't stop Deano Downer!

[TRAGChick]

Look...I was just talking about the MUSIC, and how the melody was NICE TO LISTEN TO ON A SPRING DAY!!

So TAKE YOUR NEGATIVITY ELSEWHERE!!!!

You're enjoying your day
Everything's going your way
Then along comes Deano Downer.

Always there to tell you 'bout a new disease
A car accident or killer bees
You beg him to spare you, "Deano, Please!"
But you can't stop Deano Downer!

LMFAO!!

Thanx for that....sorry for my "outburst"....things not really going my way...didn't mean to "take it out" on you guys...

PS ~ LOVE that skit on SNL!

[*Laura]

[Rockindeano]

Yep, like I figured. Speak out for the truth and criticize the bad, and I am a traitor, a non patriot.

tell you what suckholes. You go enlist, go to Desert Storm and then come back an tell me I have no right to speak out against this shit and that I am wrong in doing so. If anything, I am MORE of a patriot, because I love this land, and chose to fight for it's people.

Then go work for the White House and see the shit that goes on in Government. You would be sick to your stomach too.

So fuck off.

[Rockindeano]

Now, I will say this. Nora, that is a beautifully written song, and it may be better than Fracis Scot Key's song. I am sorry for my criticism.

Did you all see today they are going to propose that the National Anthem be sung in Spanish as well as English?

[Free]

Yep, like I figured. Speak out for the truth and criticize the bad, and I am a traitor, a non patriot.

tell you what suckholes. You go enlist, go to Desert Storm and then come back an tell me I have no right to speak out against this shit and that I am wrong in doing so. If anything, I am MORE of a patriot, because I love this land, and chose to fight for it's people.

Then go work for the White House and see the shit that goes on in Government. You would be sick to your stomach too.

So fuck off.

Well, I don't know why you are telling me to f-off.

[Rockindeano]

Well, I don't know why you are telling me to f-off.

Why? You and I have been at it since day one. I think your political viewpoint sucks, and would like to express myself.

[Big J]

Now, I will say this. Nora, that is a beautifully written song, and it may be better than Fracis Scot Key's song. I am sorry for my criticism.

Did you all see today they are going to propose that the National Anthem be sung in Spanish as well as English?

Oh it's not just that. They had a bunch of "famous" Latin performers record it, We are the World style...and there's an English "breakdown" verse in the middle, talking about how mean the gov't is and how "we can't help it where we were born".

And it's being released as a pop single to Spanish-language radio.

I've heard part of it. Absolute bullshit. Enraging.

You know, if we took the Mexican national anthem, rerecorded it in English, and included verses about how mariachi music blaring at 2 am is annoying and taco truck food tastes like shit, we'd be branded racists.

Although "La Cucaracha" has a pretty tough beat to wrap lyrics around, it'd take some doing to rewrite it anyway.


--Edit, also, I'm sure you know this, but FSK didnt write the song, he wrote the poem. The tune's an old Irish drinking song.

[Rockindeano]

Don't get me started on these whiners.

However, I don't want to piss em all off. Who is going to mow my lawn and wash my car

Seriously, there are shitloads of these fuckers bumping around SoCal, and I would say 30% are good folks, who pay taxes and DONT SPRAY PAINT EVERY PAINTABLE SURFACE!

And they wonder why the Mexican border isnt open like the Canadian border. Dumbshits.

[junky]

Did you all see today they are going to propose that the National Anthem be sung in Spanish as well as English?

Oh it's not just that. They had a bunch of "famous" Latin performers record it, We are the World style...and there's an English "breakdown" verse in the middle, talking about how mean the gov't is and how "we can't help it where we were born".

And it's being released as a pop single to Spanish-language radio.

And an album, instigated by a British producer.

Perry and/or Cain coud have gotten in on this with La Raza Del Sol.

Oh and Nora, yes it was a stunning day here on the East Coast yesterday.
We did a rooftop BBQ at sunset and listened to Time 3.
Though, a little bittersweet. Our back drop being a view of Manhattan, minus the twin towers.

[Free]

Well, I don't know why you are telling me to f-off.

Why? You and I have been at it since day one. I think your political viewpoint sucks, and would like to express myself.

What? We both can't stand bush. I'm not a republican. So I thought you liked what I thought.

[Big J]

Don't get me started on these whiners.

However, I don't want to piss em all off. Who is going to mow my lawn and wash my car

Seriously, there are shitloads of these fuckers bumping around SoCal, and I would say 30% are good folks, who pay taxes and DONT SPRAY PAINT EVERY PAINTABLE SURFACE!

And they wonder why the Mexican border isnt open like the Canadian border. Dumbshits.

Got a ton of them here too. I think your 30% may be generous, unfortunately.

Takes more than 30% of your populace showing up for your job rather than taking the day off to block everyone else from getting to their job for me to call you "good people"

And fuck 'em anyhow. Learn the language. Obey the laws. My great grandparents had to. Fuck you if you think you're better than them and shouldn't have to.

I couldn't function living down there without learning SOME spanish. Why we cushion their stupid fat asses here is beyond me. Fuck 'em.

I'm telling ya, if nobody here sees me post here after Monday, it's because I'm in the can after running 15 or so of these assholes down because they were blocking the streets on my way to work. You know, work? It's that thing people do rather than cram the Wal Mart full on gov't check day.

[ohsherrie]

Why we cushion their stupid fat asses here is beyond me.

I have some thoughts on that subject.

The first and foremost reason for Bush's velvet glove policy on illegals is that he and his wealthy, corporate cronies can get a lot richer, a lot quicker(as in before the Reps lose power), paying these people slave wages than they could paying American citizens a living wage.

The second reason is that he and his party courted the Latino vote so heavily by making big promises and they can't afford to lose them now that the party is in such bad favor.

Illegal should mean ILLEGAL and should be dealt with as such. The expense of doing so would soon be covered by the savings in government subsidy money if there was an honest person in government to manage the budget. Gee, do you suppose someone like that even exists? I don't anymore(Where is Ross Perot when you need him? ).

[Big J]

tHE PROBLEM IS, THERE ACTUALLY IS NOBODY TO PICK ALL THOSE GRAPES AND DO ALL THOSE JOBS FOR CENTS ON THE DOLLAR oops that the illegals do.

Because we're too pussified and PC to have prison chain gangs do it, of course.

That sure as hell ain't the Republicans fault.

[jrnyman28]

This is a problem "we" as a nation have created from years of apathy. Business is to blame for realizing it could save money by paying under the table. Businesses figured out that it could pay twice the wages of other countries and still be half of what is fair in the U.S.

And we have let it go for so long that it is now an epidemic. If we had remained vigilant, and made the businesses pay for their actions, this would not be a problem now. I cannot blame the immigrants for taking advantage of our leanience (sp?).

It is just odd that this has become such a big deal in the past 3-4 months. What about the last 10-20 years?

[TRAGChick]

Andrew, I think right now is a good time to move this to the "Rant!" forum...

Unbelievable.

I start a Journey-related thread, about how a song about "mountains", "freedom", and "liberty" reminds me of our country...

...and it turns into bitching about Politics.

Whatever.

[perryfaithful]

Andrew, I think right now is a good time to move this to the "Rant!" forum...

Unbelievable.

I start a Journey-related thread, about how a song about "mountains", "freedom", and "liberty" reminds me of our country...

...and it turns into bitching about Politics.

Whatever.

ah....there is plenty of "freedom' and "liberty" in the responses

[RubyTequila]

I heard Liberty "Live" in 2002...It was truly moving!

[yak]

I don't anymore(Where is Ross Perot when you need him? ).

UM....The only thing Perot will ever do is split the vote. Why have a billionaire in office? He has everything money can buy, so ask yourself what he wants the office for? Get a grip on your cloying interpretation of any Republican President, just because it's a Republican, because they're all cut from the same cloth..doesn't matter who they are. And stay off my ass; I'm an Independent.

Had a brief respite, and coming out once again, with the same old mutterings, I see. You and your cronies are stealthily creeping around the corner, looking cautiously, first one way, and then the other, to see if the coast is clear. If I had been outed in such a manner, I'd be hiding out for the rest of my life.

THIS is a music board. Run by a respectable man...... who in the past you have made all kinds of fun of, just becauses he doesn't share your particular view at a particular time. It's a music board. The respectable man has a Politicical board further down the page. Use it. Got it?

[Rockindeano]

Yak is right.

I find it REALLY funny that PF, HOTS and PP come out, and also Sherrie does too.

They have huddled and are regrouping.

Get ready boys, it's time.

[Moon Beam]

Welcome Back Dean'o
How was the camping?

[Rockindeano]

If you're asking if I was great or not....Of course I was great. Lots of smiles around site #9.

[Moon Beam]

No you overgrown ego I wasn't asking if you were good.
I asked how the trip was....as in did you have fun.