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by **heardonthestreet** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:05 am

I can't believe that Augeri would agree to performing this way. It's just not his persona. He would have so much to lose if it were verified. I think that he would have thrown in the towel before he would stoop to fooling the fans in this way. I'm not defending him, I just can't see mister nice guy doing this. :roll:

by **HigherPlace2001** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:21 am

I have to agree with heardonthestreet...Augeri is the guy who had given up his dream of singing to work for the Gap. I highly doubt he would now allow Neal or Jon or management to let him compromise himself this way. I am sure he would break any contract he might have before he would "lip" his way through a show.

Just give this up Deano if it is so depressing to you as you keep saying.

And now I await your juvenile response littered with nothing but nasty comments.

by **Infinity** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:54 am

HigherPlace2001 wrote:I have to agree with heardonthestreet...Augeri is the guy who had given up his dream of singing to work for the Gap. I highly doubt he would now allow Neal or Jon or management to let him compromise himself this way. I am sure he would break any contract he might have before he would "lip" his way through a show.

Mr.” nice guy” does what Neal tells him to do. Augeri has a job, a much better one than he had at the Gap,doncha think so?
Besides, Neal wants to tour and keep Journey going no matter what.If a string breaks he replaces it. If a voice breaks it can be replaced with a tape.This is not the 80s anymore when it was music for the love of music. This is the fucking new millennium. Politics and business. You either do what you have to do (compromise) and survive or you go home and, yeah, be nice.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:58 am

Higherplace2001 is the biggest fraud here. I gurantee you he/she/it is a representative from the "other" site, bent on defending Mr Awesome and drowning out my OPINION.

Hey, it's just an opinion, but I find it really peculiar that EVERYONE here DOES look hard at this..tells me I have some credibility. Sadly, you all did look hard at this, and now I am full of it.

Ok, feel better about Journey now? If you do, you are just blind.

See, as an ardent supporter of the current lineup, I did a full 180 on them. Must be I just wanted attention. Yeah, that's it!

by **NealIsGod** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:09 am

You have your opinion, we have ours. It's over now.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:10 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Higherplace2001 is the biggest fraud here. I gurantee you he/she/it is a representative from the "other" site, bent on defending Mr Awesome and drowning out my OPINION.

MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm...this is more like a tempest in a teapot here. The theory you and TNC subscribe to hasn't even bled over to another forum in this site let alone BT. I checked it this morning.

by **Infinity** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:12 am

NealIsGod wrote: It's over now.

Unfortunately.

by **Kaj** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:15 am

You should all just come to Sweden and live here coz this is the land of happiness,yeah.....we´re living the heavenly life over here with 2 gold medals from the Swedish hockey team the very same year,making them historical coz no other team has managed to win both the olympics and the world championships the same year until now.
We´re the best!!!!
If Neal went to Sweden,I bet he would make some of his best songs up to date,it´s the air folks! it´s the air!
You can say what ever you want Deano,a day like today - nothing gets to me!
Wayne who? :-)

by **Liz22562** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:00 am

Andrew: can't wait to read your take on all this!

Shout out to Neal, Jon, Steve A, Deen, & Ross: If any of you are reading this - care to share your 2 cents? (lol).

Journey On people!

by **Pit** » Fri May 26, 2006 4:22 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:We DO know that Steve has some "health" issues at the beginning of the tour. We DO know that the reason for all the other vocalists, and the jams, was to aid Steve in getting through a 3 1/2 hour show. We DO know that there is some help based on 3 clips from Steve singing Ask The Lonely. We DO know that Deen was a big help until he ALSO had voice problems.

But none of this adds up to "entire" shows being lip-synched.

Has Steve's voice suffered? Yes. Is it possible that he can recover? I think so, but will reserve opinion until I actually hear him on this tour (if I get to the show). Did the band handle Steve's health issues properly? No. Is it possible that they are pushing Steve too hard? Yes.

Will Perry be back? I HIGHLY doubt it!

Oh my goodness. I can't believe I'm here. Dave, you are treading in waters you know nothing about. No need for pretension. Pneumonia was not the problem, It was much more serious, and you have no business speaking of which you do not know especially considering what the Augeri & Cirillo fanilies have been through of late. I'll be at red rocks if you have a problem with what I'm saying.

I can assure all of you that Steve Augeri would retire before he stooped to the level of todays nymphette chicklets.

I'm shocked that the PHead mantra is allowed to carry on here. The memory of the '78 Volkswagon seems just to strong to forget. I've photographed Journey from every angle including under the drum riser, and there is just no way what you are alledging has happened, I don't care who says what.

Steve Augeri is of the highest of character, and those of you who don't know him are really just grasping at straws. Andrew, I can't believe you didn't stop this nonsense 4 pages back. Thanks to my friend who brought this to my attention. What a friggin joke. Let it go, and put your wild imaginations to good use like helping others instead of trying to destroy others. Geez!!!!!!

CfnP

by **Andrew** » Fri May 26, 2006 4:26 pm

Thank you.

Perhaps time to close this thread now?

by **Andrew** » Fri May 26, 2006 4:29 pm

Liz22562 wrote:Andrew: can't wait to read your take on all this!

My take?

There's a lot of talking going on and none of it will effect Journey or Steve A and I trust you will all enjoy their 2006 shows.

Move on folks. I have been patient enough.

by **HigherPlace2001** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:14 pm

Finally one of those actually in the know, steps forward. And I know you are in the know Pit.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:23 pm

CfnP wrote:The memory of the '78 Volkswagon seems just to strong to forget.

OK, so CfnP is a photographer, and HigherPlace2001 knows who he is. Are we starting to attract people associated with the band? I hope so, I would love an official explanation so it can be put to rest.

Can someone explain what the Volkswagon quote means? Is he comparing Perry to an older model car, or is it something deeper?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:30 pm

I think the VW quote is referring to one of their early touring chariots. Maybe this dude does know something....

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:33 pm

Pit wrote:

Oh my goodness. I can't believe I'm here. Dave, you are treading in waters you know nothing about. No need for pretension. Pneumonia was not the problem, It was much more serious, and you have no business speaking of which you do not know especially considering what the Augeri & Cirillo fanilies have been through of late. I'll be at red rocks if you have a problem with what I'm saying.

Hello intruder. I am so glad you decided to poke your beak into this. You think you are "someone in the know?" Haha. So you took pictures. Big deal. What has been alleged here, by ME personally is irrefutable fact. Tell you what. Take off the alleged moniker. I am saying it now. They flatout lipped songs throughout the tour. Sue me. Or try to. I have hard copy truth. I am sorry about the loss the Augeri's suffered, but that does not exonerrate Augeri or Journey. Hey, can I come to Red Rocks and hangout with you? I am no Dave28.

I can assure all of you that Steve Augeri would retire before he stooped to the level of todays nymphette chicklets.

Then why didn't he? You can hear the proof. Why are you denying what your ears can hear? Let me guess, you won't even listen to the bootlegs.

I'm shocked that the PHead mantra is allowed to carry on here.

Genius, I just told you I was the one who brought up these actions. Sir/Mam, whatever the Hell you are, I am NO Perryhead/Loon, ask anyone.

Why must you BT agents always conceal your identity. Come on out and state your name. I did. Not ONE BT covert agent has yet. Spineless sheep.

And also, why is Perry being brought up again. This isn't a Perryhead agenda. it's one fan who isn't taking their shit. And for what it's worth, the attention to this matter, as evidenced by the wave of new posters here is highly complimentary. LOL, you folks are sure loud on a computer. State your name tough guy. Let's see how tough you really are.

I've photographed Journey from every angle including under the drum riser, and there is just no way what you are alledging has happened, I don't care who says what.

Big deal. What the fuck does that prove? Nothing.

Steve Augeri is of the highest of character, and those of you who don't know him are really just grasping at straws.

O really? Could have fooled me. Making a good living at being a singer and not singing doesn't sound like "good character" to me. Knowingly walking out on that stage with the intent of faking a show is flatout bullshit.
He has nothing close to good character.

Andrew, I can't believe you didn't stop this nonsense 4 pages back.

LOL, this isn't your average BT Board. I hope to Hell Andrew keeps this up. The ONLY way this comes down is if Management requests it, and if they do that, that in itself is an admittance of guilt. Why should Andrew close this thread? Something here you don't want the masses to know?

Thanks to my friend who brought this to my attention.

Must say you BT'ers sure have one anothers' backs.

What a friggin joke. Let it go, and put your wild imaginations to good use like helping others instead of trying to destroy others. Geez!!!!!!

No, the joke is on Journey and the people who got caught. Why should I let it go? I have proven the accusations. Wild imaginations? Naw, that's what Journey had when they thought they could pull this shit off.

Your turn cream puff. This time, bring something of substance, not BT emaotion.

Andrew, i promised you no more "Fuck you's" and you promised me something. We still have that deal in place?

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:35 pm

HigherPlace2001 wrote:Finally one of those actually in the know, steps forward. And I know you are in the know Pit.

In the know? LOL.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:36 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
HigherPlace2001 wrote:Finally one of those actually in the know, steps forward. And I know you are in the know Pit.

In the know? LOL.

You know who it is, Deano?

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:48 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
HigherPlace2001 wrote:Finally one of those actually in the know, steps forward. And I know you are in the know Pit.

In the know? LOL.

You know who it is, Deano?

Definetely not someone in the know, I can tell you that much.

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:50 pm

Andrew wrote:Thank you.

Perhaps time to close this thread now?

Yeah, that's what I'd do :roll:

, cave into pressure. Hey, if nothing is going on, why close it?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:52 pm

Why close it?
Because you're besmirching a band and Augeri.

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:54 pm

No, you got it all wrong. They besmirched us. You're just too stupid to admit it.

You already confessed to me privately, so why the phony facade?

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:02 am

So you're dumping your friends on here unless we agree with you 100%? If you do that, you will never have any friends. I think it's good to have friends with different outlooks and opinions than me. I guess you don't.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:07 am

NealIsGod wrote:So you're dumping your friends on here unless we agree with you 100%? If you do that, you will never have any friends. I think it's good to have friends with different outlooks and opinions than me. I guess you don't.

It goes much deeper than that NIG.

Your buddy 13, dared me to put out my evidence, my feelings...I finally did. Half the people have heard it, and changed their minds, and believe me. Then he asks Jeremy to weigh in, and Jeremy says no doubt, it is fake. Still not good enough for your buddy.

This isn't about a sports fued or some silly political argument. This is serious. I proved my case beyond a shadow of a doubt, you BOTH admitted as much, yet you are good soldiers defending a lying, robbing machine.

No, I don't want friends like that, no thank you. It's nopt so much that you don't believe, or more appropriately, don't want to believe, it's just that you asked me, told me, and dared me to put out the mp3's. I did, and then you guys spin spin spin.

Hurts me, but I am tough. Tells me a lot about you guys though.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:09 am

I have learned a lot about you as well.

by **Infinity** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:28 am

Pit wrote:Oh my goodness. I can't believe I'm here.

Let’s see how long you last.

Dave, you are treading in waters you know nothing about. No need for pretension. Pneumonia was not the problem, It was much more serious, and you have no business speaking of which you do not know especially considering what the Augeri & Cirillo fanilies have been through of late. I'll be at red rocks if you have a problem with what I'm saying.

That’s funny.Who are you,Steve Augeri’s Doctor?If so,would you be so kind and tell us what was SA’s health problem?I’m not sure if you noticed,but this is a board where people talk freely.Enlighten us.No one was talking about Augeri’s personal family problems,so don’t try to play the violin and make us weepy.

I can assure all of you that Steve Augeri would retire before he stooped to the level of todays nymphette chicklets.

Are you sure,Doc?Wouldn’t that put Journey in a delicate situation?Looks like no other singers want to take the responsibility of fronting Journey and it seems that Perry is not that eager to play with Schon again.Besides,have you ever thought about what are the financial benefits of having a front job in Journey?I bet there're good ones.

I've photographed Journey from every angle including under the drum riser, and there is just no way what you are alledging has happened, I don't care who says what.

How the fuck can you take a picture of lip synching?Man,you must be the inventor of the most intelligent digital camera on Earth.Btw,how do the pictures look like when the band sings live? Dork.

Steve Augeri is of the highest of character, and those of you who don't know him are really just grasping at straws. Andrew, I can't believe you didn't stop this nonsense 4 pages back. Thanks to my friend who brought this to my attention. What a friggin joke. Let it go, and put your wild imaginations to good use like helping others instead of trying to destroy others. Geez!!!!!!

Nonsense?I would say there are 4 pages of good debate and some other threads filled with proofs.
Nonsense is your babble.Oh,and and your digital camera too.

Our *wild imaginations* will be at ease when you will become more consistent with your statements.

by **Infinity** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:49 am

I want a magic camera...
I was reading in another thread that Madonna is lip synching.OMG.
We have to ask Pit, the pofessional photographer!

So tell us,Doc,is she or is she not?You must know better.
I say she's a fake. :lol:

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:55 am

Show some respect for Andrew and keep it civil. No one is impressed with your silliness.

by **gr8dane** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:56 am

This could get bigger than Enron.
What's the world coming to?

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:57 am

NealIsGod wrote:Show some respect for Andrew and keep it civil. No one is impressed with your silliness.

Who's silliness? The fact Infinity made a great point? Where is your buddy 13? How about Pit. I notice you guys don't comment on the songs anylonger. Must not comment on stuff you cannot defend. I understand.

MR

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