Andrew's Time To Comment

[jrnyman28]

my opinion, the band and Steve Augeri should distance themselves from Mr.Mcniece at all costs. The word "betrayal" comes to mind. All one has to do is read this forum over the last few weeks, to know whose side Andrew is on, even though he continues to claim he doesn't take sides. I wonder if Journey will view it that way.

Mandi

I will say this again: Why should Andrew be punished for what is said on his forums? He offers us a space to discuss things. We are doing just that. I suppose you like the way it is on BT where actually discussion get locked? Where criticism is barely allowed? BS! Besides, at least one court has ruled that web owners are NOT responsible for the content of their message boards unless THEY write it! Andrew is our host. Let's be nice to him...


And if you REALLY knew anything about Andrew, you would understand how much support he has given to the "new" era of Journey! There is no doubt where Andrew stands...he stands with "Journey"!

[Big J]

The band needs to stop this charade and get someone like Jeff Scott Soto or James LaBrie in there to save the tour and their reputation, even if it's only a temporary fix. It's eithe that or pull out of the tour altogether.

I take it you havent heard much of LaBrie live. Atrocious compared to in the studio.

If they change singers, they oughta do it seamlessly without much change in the band's makeup. Talk Steve Smith into coming back and put Deen Castronovo out front, if he's willing/able.

Personally, I think Augeri's fine. I think this is bullshit. But...if he needs a rest, for Christ's sake take a year off. At this point, if the allegations are true and he's been seal barking underneath a taped vocal for two years, his voice is shot and he'll need surgery to ever sing "right" again.

[jrnyman28]

Oh I can see it now. Accusations of planted audience members, etc. This'll never end for some.

It's all bullshit.

But would it matter if Steve pulled it off?

[NealIsGod]

If they change singers, they oughta do it seamlessly without much change in the band's makeup. Talk Steve Smith into coming back and put Deen Castronovo out front, if he's willing/able.

I'd go for that. I love Augie, but if all of this touring has ruined his pipes, let's start wrecking Deen's voice.

[*Laura]

milostheman wrote:

The band needs to stop this charade and get someone like Jeff Scott Soto or James LaBrie in there to save the tour and their reputation, even if it's only a temporary fix. It's eithe that or pull out of the tour altogether.

The way I see things,Journey would have to stick with Augeri or just call it quits for good. At this point,replacing the singer who’s been with them for so many years already ,would not only bring chaos among the fans,but it would also mean tremendous work to start all over again with a new singer…Then they will have to face all the insecurity of a new beginning: would the new singer be able to be convincing enough in front of the fans?how will he be received?will he easily fit in a group that’s been together for decades?Not to mention the hardest question of all:how must this new singer’s voice sound like – Perry-esque or not?All these behind-the-scenes issues would consume Journey to the point where they will just decide it’s not worth it.
So that’s why I believe that Journey will continue with Augeri or disband without him.

[NealIsGod]

If Augie ever leaves (which I DO NOT want), I like the idea of Deen taking over, but think that he may not have the stamina or training to handle the job full time. What do the professional singers here think?

If they get a new singer, it would HAVE to be someone who could sing the Perry-era stuff. I was never a big Soul SirkUS fan, but JSS has great pipes, and he can sing the Perry-era stuff pretty well. If he is still talking to Neal, he may be worth a shot.

[Andrew]

I would be very disappointed in Journey and their management if they choose to acknowledge this farce in any way, shape or form, and more so if they choose to go to Andrew with such an acknowledgement. In my opinion, the band and Steve Augeri should distance themselves from Mr.Mcniece at all costs. The word "betrayal" comes to mind. All one has to do is read this forum over the last few weeks, to know whose side Andrew is on, even though he continues to claim he doesn't take sides. I wonder if Journey will view it that way.

Mandi

Horse poo....me and the band are fine. I have only supported these guys and that continues to this day.

[Journey/Survivor]

Well all I can say is I was at the Manchester gig right up at the front and I say that if SA was miming in part, or whole he is th ebest miming singer on the planet because from where I stood he sung every word, everysong one hundred percent.

Exactly!!!

That is a point that I intended to make as well. I have been litterally within 3 feet of Steve Augeri during an entire concert in the last year and a half, and if he's lipping then he's phenomenal at it, absolutely flawless!!!

[cudaclan]

[Do you honestly think Neal took Prince's idea and ran with it? No. He took what became a very positive idea on BT and ran with it. It was the fans who started discussing what Prince did. Any band can greatly benefit from listening to the fans...[/quote]

I can take this as a positive statement for BT then?

[cudaclan]

If they get a new singer, it would HAVE to be someone who could sing the Perry-era stuff. I was never a big Soul SirkUS fan, but JSS has great pipes, and he can sing the Perry-era stuff pretty well. If he is still talking to Neal, he may be worth a shot.[/quote]

JSS forte’ is not Journey material. No one chimed in on JSS rendition of “Stand-Up”. Ever notice he pushes a lot of foot-pedals when he sings? They are visible. JSS is a “shoot from the hip” type of guy. He divulged info regarding Schon’s guitar tech playing “fills” backstage during Soul SirkUs performances. Did you know Pam Anderson’s breasts are “augmented”? For shame.

[Andrew]

JSS could sing Journey in a heartbeat and has already - checkout his covers of Send Her My Love, Edge Of The Blade and also the Soul Sirkus track Coming Home...

As for the pedals - vocal effects as in the same way any and all guitarists use for certain licks and tricks during solos.

[cudaclan]

JSS could sing Journey in a heartbeat and has already - checkout his covers of Send Her My Love, Edge Of The Blade and also the Soul Sirkus track Coming Home...

As for the pedals - vocal effects as in the same way any and all guitarists use for certain licks and tricks during solos.

Journey’s vocals are powerful and soulful. I have heard those covers, both live. I have my personal boots of SS in concert. I will not turn to the “Dark Side” with comments.

Same sentiments towards the pedal effects. Just making everyone aware of the industry, you know, entertainment.

[Red13JoePa]

I would be very disappointed in Journey and their management if they choose to acknowledge this farce in any way, shape or form, and more so if they choose to go to Andrew with such an acknowledgement. In my opinion, the band and Steve Augeri should distance themselves from Mr.Mcniece at all costs. The word "betrayal" comes to mind. All one has to do is read this forum over the last few weeks, to know whose side Andrew is on, even though he continues to claim he doesn't take sides. I wonder if Journey will view it that way.

Mandi

Horse poo....me and the band are fine. I have only supported these guys and that continues to this day.

Good news, indeed. Not that I'm surprised but still.

[augeri1]

Why should Andrew be punished for what is said on his forums? He offers us a space to discuss things. We are doing just that. I suppose you like the way it is on BT where actually discussion get locked? Where criticism is barely allowed? BS! Besides, at least one court has ruled that web owners are NOT responsible for the content of their message boards unless THEY write it! Andrew is our host. Let's be nice to him...

?? Your the one who frequents BT, Dave..I post maybe 3 times a year over there..if you have an issue with how they run the place why do you go there? As for Andrew, I could care less what ONE court has ruled...Journey is the judge and jury in this case, not anyone else. I just find it odd that someone who "supports" the band would allow some loose cannon jackass and his buddies to make unproven accusations on a daily basis. DAILY & UNPROVEN..plain and simple. If Journey see's nothing wrong in what's been allowed here..more power to Andrew..but that's my opinion...and I am entitled to one, same as everyone else here.

[NealIsGod]

JSS could sing Journey in a heartbeat and has already - checkout his covers of Send Her My Love, Edge Of The Blade and also the Soul Sirkus track Coming Home...

As for the pedals - vocal effects as in the same way any and all guitarists use for certain licks and tricks during solos.

Thanks for the backup, Andrew. JSS would bring a different sound to Journey, but Sammy did the same thing in VH and that turned out pretty well.

[Andrew]

JSS would make Journey a rock band again.

[NealIsGod]

I just find it odd that someone who "supports" the band would allow some loose cannon jackass and his buddies to make unproven accusations on a daily basis. DAILY & UNPROVEN..plain and simple.

It's the friggin' internet. How is Dave allowing anything? He has as much power over this board as I do, which is none. If someone wants to post that there is a space alien living in his house, he can do that. That freedom is one of the things that make the internet great, but it's also one of the things that make it dangerous. If there is truth to Dean's claims, then it will come out. If not, then it will fizzle out. No need to attack someone who hasn't even done anything!

[Andrew]

Hey NiG,
A1 is attacking me....no big deal...I had no opinion on the post.

[NealIsGod]

Hey NiG,
A1 is attacking me....no big deal...I had no opinion on the post.

Oh, I missed your name in there. Sorry, haven't had my coffee yet.

But I still feel the same way about the internet!

[mack]

Somebody mentioned that Journey could only replace Augeri with someone that could handle the Steve Perry "era" music. Is everybody forgetting that the Perry "era" was when all of their best music, not to mention all their HITS were written? IN fact, the biggest complaint from any Journey show is that they do not play enough of the music that got them there. (I don't remeber the last time I heard a song with Augeri on the radio.) The point is..if Augeri really can't cut it anymore (maybe the guy has a legitimate medical issue)..WOuldn't the best solution be to bring back a vintage Journey show? And if Steve Perry is definitely unavailable...Wouldn't the best solution be to find somobody who makes you feel like you are seeing and hearing Steve Perry. Someone who literally looks, sounds and moves exactly like Perry. You guys that are familiar with Melodic Rock know the perfect guy that is out there. He has been paying "tribute" to his true musical inspiratin (Perry) for a few years now....and audiences who see him can't believe what they are seeing. They can't believe that he wasn't picked to replace Perry in Journey from the beginning. Well, as they say "better late than never".
YOu know who I am talking about, but I want all of you to respond with the name...the perfect guy...
Oh and p.s. he is a great songwriter as you know from much of his solo material. Now put him in a room with Neil and Jonathan and just imagine a new Journey album with radio hits once again.

[*Laura]

Somebody mentioned that Journey could only replace Augeri with someone that could handle the Steve Perry "era" music. Is everybody forgetting that the Perry "era" was when all of their best music, not to mention all their HITS were written? IN fact, the biggest complaint from any Journey show is that they do not play enough of the music that got them there. (I don't remeber the last time I heard a song with Augeri on the radio.) The point is..if Augeri really can't cut it anymore (maybe the guy has a legitimate medical issue)..WOuldn't the best solution be to bring back a vintage Journey show? And if Steve Perry is definitely unavailable...Wouldn't the best solution be to find somobody who makes you feel like you are seeing and hearing Steve Perry. Someone who literally looks, sounds and moves exactly like Perry. You guys that are familiar with Melodic Rock know the perfect guy that is out there. He has been paying "tribute" to his true musical inspiratin (Perry) for a few years now....and audiences who see him can't believe what they are seeing. They can't believe that he wasn't picked to replace Perry in Journey from the beginning. Well, as they say "better late than never".
YOu know who I am talking about, but I want all of you to respond with the name...the perfect guy...
Oh and p.s. he is a great songwriter as you know from much of his solo material. Now put him in a room with Neil and Jonathan and just imagine a new Journey album with radio hits once again.

Hi,mack.
I have to disagree.If Journey would hire "someone who literally looks, sounds and moves exactly like Perry" it would only look like a parody of the Perry era.
It's either they bring back the original singer,go on with the present singer or hire someone who can cover the vocally demanding Journey hits.Maybe a sound-alike,but not a move-alike,look-alike...lol.

[mack]

It can't be a parody when you are paying to see the original band.
Putting a singer like that in front of the audience just completes the package for what people are paying $100 + for tix.

[Liz22562]

I, personally, do not care to see a Perry-look-a-like in front of Journey. Augeri is just fine, thank you very much. Seems to me the band needs a nice holiday anyway (as suggested by others on here also). Let the guys rest up (sans Neal 'cuz I don't think that guy knows how to sit still!).

I suppose I'm in my comfort zone with Journey, I don't care to see another lead singer - but that's just MHO.

Journey On...

(and I've never paid $100 to see ANY band - but that's just me)!

[Red13JoePa]

Hold on, no gun jumping on replacements at this hour.
JSS would not make them back into a rock band, he would continue what the advent of Augeri already did...make them back into a rock band. The last 2 efforts, Red13 and Generations are some of the best rock the band's put out in its 31 years. Can't forget the rock on Arrival either with HP, NCC, WGW, and maybe the heaviest, All The Things. I'll still roll with Augeri.

[jrnyman28]

?? Your the one who frequents BT, Dave..I post maybe 3 times a year over there..if you have an issue with how they run the place why do you go there?

I still enjoy some things there. And I also try to push for change.

As for Andrew, I could care less what ONE court has ruled...Journey is the judge and jury in this case, not anyone else.

Actually, I think the FANS are going to be judge and jury on this one.

I just find it odd that someone who "supports" the band would allow some loose cannon jackass and his buddies to make unproven accusations on a daily basis. DAILY & UNPROVEN..plain and simple.

Maybe so, but being a journalist I would be willing to believe Andrew is interested in TRUTH. And I do know he is interested in not censoring ideas. After all, it would be hypocritical of Andrew to censor anyone when he is in the field of Journalism/Press...

If Journey see's nothing wrong in what's been allowed here..more power to Andrew..but that's my opinion...and I am entitled to one, same as everyone else here.

Quit pulling the victim 'I am entitled just like anyone' crap. You offered your opinion and I offered mine. No one is supressing your right to say it. And obviously Andrew would never do that....even though you wish he would. (Not YOURS of course, only the people YOU do not agree with)

[conversationpc]

The mods at Back Talk have allowed a thread dealing with this subject, which is a, pardon the pun, departure from the recent past. I'm thinking they're going to make some kind of official statement about this whole situation.

[Liam]

Conversationpc....I LOVE your pic for the ACLU. PRICELESS. LOL.

[jrnyman28]

The mods at Back Talk have allowed a thread dealing with this subject, which is a, pardon the pun, departure from the recent past. I'm thinking they're going to make some kind of official statement about this whole situation.

Hey pc! Nice to see ya bud!

It is amazing that BT has allowed the thread, but what else could they really do at this point? I am impressed and I hope (if/when this is over) they will continue to allow discussion of more controversial topics.

The one "hypocritical" thing is that they provide a direct link over here but if you put up a link about Perryville they will shut it down because BT does not "promote" other sites...

[Abitaman]

JSS would make Journey a rock band again.

I don't like his voice.....

[Abitaman]

Somebody mentioned that Journey could only replace Augeri with someone that could handle the Steve Perry "era" music. Is everybody forgetting that the Perry "era" was when all of their best music, not to mention all their HITS were written? IN fact, the biggest complaint from any Journey show is that they do not play enough of the music that got them there. (I don't remeber the last time I heard a song with Augeri on the radio.) The point is..if Augeri really can't cut it anymore (maybe the guy has a legitimate medical issue)..WOuldn't the best solution be to bring back a vintage Journey show? And if Steve Perry is definitely unavailable...Wouldn't the best solution be to find somobody who makes you feel like you are seeing and hearing Steve Perry. Someone who literally looks, sounds and moves exactly like Perry. You guys that are familiar with Melodic Rock know the perfect guy that is out there. He has been paying "tribute" to his true musical inspiratin (Perry) for a few years now....and audiences who see him can't believe what they are seeing. They can't believe that he wasn't picked to replace Perry in Journey from the beginning. Well, as they say "better late than never".
YOu know who I am talking about, but I want all of you to respond with the name...the perfect guy...
Oh and p.s. he is a great songwriter as you know from much of his solo material. Now put him in a room with Neil and Jonathan and just imagine a new Journey album with radio hits once again.

and it all come down to Perry AGAIN-ERIC