Why not just replace Augeri?

by **Eric** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:44 pm

This is the main reason I don't believe the rumour. If you can replace Perry you can replace Augeri....

by **EightyRock** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:17 pm

Ever hear of a contract? It costs money to break them and probably pay him as if he was still on the rest of the tour. Just a guess why they haven't done this yet.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:18 pm

EightyRock wrote:Just a guess

That's all anyone seems to be posting on this topic. No one KNOWS anything.

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:53 am

EightyRock wrote:Ever hear of a contract? It costs money to break them and probably pay him as if he was still on the rest of the tour. Just a guess why they haven't done this yet.

But according to Deano, Journey already had an awesome new singer under Contract incase Augeri couldn't pull it together. Guy was signed last year, just for this. But another one of Deano's stories-ERIC

by **WalrusOct9** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:58 am

It's possible they had another singer in waiting, but chose to stick with Augeri for monetary reasons. Maybe because of a contract, but also possibly because Journey w/Augeri is a known entity, and suddenly replacing the singer (again) could make concert promoters uneasy.

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:06 am

I think RD was talking out both ends on this

by **SF-Dano** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:36 am

This is the part I don't get either. I like Augerie, but if it is true, and he can't bring it anymore, then replace him. I really don't think that more than a small portion of the concert audience is there for Augerie. Most people are there because they love Journey music. I do believe there are a few singers out there that could handle the job. Hugo and Jeremey come directly to mind. Last years tour, I can understand that they needed to go with what they had. It was Journey only shows celebrating their 30th. This tour however, if Augerie is really that bad, would be the perfect tour to have replaced him. You are touring with, and basically opening for, another popular band. IMO this would have been the time to make the switch. So if all allegations are true, then the fact that Journey hasn't just made a change is what is most confusing to me.

By the way, what was the whole story behind that rumor of another singer ready to go and Neal and Dean getting in a fight over it. Anyone, want to spit that whole story out for us. :wink:

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:49 am

According to deano that the end of 2005 Augeri was in such bad shape, Schon fired him. But deen stood up to him and said he would go too, which ended in a fist fight between the two (dee and Schon). Schon then tried to Deen to take over lead vocal, which he did not wan to do. Schon asked Perry to come back, which he refused. Then either Schon on management hire a new unknow kid was was awesome, signed him to a contract to take over if Augeri could not do the South America gig (which he did not do, sick), Augeri was also to have had throat surgery in Jan. Deano has now since said, he hasn't said this. Wis I still has the PMs on this. But my wife was sitting beside me the night we were talking on the IM to him, so she backs me up. Don't know if NIG, RED, 28 or any the others can add to it, or if I'm the only Deano talked to about this. Who knows what is true of what he has said-ERIC

by **lshphrd** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:00 am

that is the most interesting story I have ever heard.
The man missed the south america gig due to pneumonia.
I can't fathom or see Neal firing anyone and I don;t
see why he would ask Perry to come back.
sounds like a good fiction story to me.

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:36 am

lshphrd wrote:that is the most interesting story I have ever heard.
The man missed the south america gig due to pneumonia.
I can't fathom or see Neal firing anyone and I don;t
see why he would ask Perry to come back.
sounds like a good fiction story to me.

coming from Dean 80% chance it is. the other 20% only have is right and the other half stretched a great deal-ERIC

by **Eric** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:46 am

I remember Deano saying something like he had a tape or something of the audition of a replacement singer (which of course he did not provide evidence of) and about a fight between the band.

Its all nonsense

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:50 am

Eric wrote:I remember Deano saying something like he had a tape or something of the audition of a replacement singer (which of course he did not provide evidence of) and about a fight between the band.

Its all nonsense

YES dEANO DID SAY THAT, TOLD ME HE GOT TO HEAR THIS GUY, MADE YOU THINK PERRY WHO?-ERIC

by **Jeremey** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:50 am

What I can't understand about the whole situation is this - Why on earth would Journey schedule an entire summer tour with Def Freakin' Leppard, knowing the media and hype that would surround the tour - If their lead singer was suffering from vocal distress?? Sure, do what you got to do to get through the 30th Anniversary tour. It was clear Augeri wasn't on the ground floor from the get go (reference Neal's interview with Kaj maybe at the beginning of the tour where he addressed Augeri's shaky performance during the first several shows, I think Neal's response was "He'd better get better, or it's going to be a long tour..."). But for God's sake, if Augeri needed a year off, who was going to go bankrupt by not touring in 2006? And it would be so important that Neal would have fired Augeri, risking everything the band built over the past 8 years, just in an effort to go out on another summer tour? We know how Herbie feels, but does anyone think Neal is really that dumb? And the other singer scenario - What credibility would Journey have knowing Perry's argument against the band moving on without him was that they wouldn't wait for him to mend - And then just go throw gasoline on that fire by firing Augeri? And who is this other singer? As a singer myself, I know us guys are pretty proud of ourselves and we're going to want to get heard....This guy is better than Perry in his prime, and yet (1) no one knows who this guy is and (2) Journey found the guy under a rock?? It all just seems SO ridiculous....Not a whole lot of any of this makes sense, which is why I understand so many people have so many heated opinions about this....But if even a bit of the above is true, what in the hell does that say about the band??

Ugghhhfhphsfff....

by **Abitaman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:28 am

Jeremey wrote:What I can't understand about the whole situation is this - Why on earth would Journey schedule an entire summer tour with Def Freakin' Leppard, knowing the media and hype that would surround the tour - If their lead singer was suffering from vocal distress?? Sure, do what you got to do to get through the 30th Anniversary tour. It was clear Augeri wasn't on the ground floor from the get go (reference Neal's interview with Kaj maybe at the beginning of the tour where he addressed Augeri's shaky performance during the first several shows, I think Neal's response was "He'd better get better, or it's going to be a long tour..."). But for God's sake, if Augeri needed a year off, who was going to go bankrupt by not touring in 2006? And it would be so important that Neal would have fired Augeri, risking everything the band built over the past 8 years, just in an effort to go out on another summer tour? We know how Herbie feels, but does anyone think Neal is really that dumb? And the other singer scenario - What credibility would Journey have knowing Perry's argument against the band moving on without him was that they wouldn't wait for him to mend - And then just go throw gasoline on that fire by firing Augeri? And who is this other singer? As a singer myself, I know us guys are pretty proud of ourselves and we're going to want to get heard....This guy is better than Perry in his prime, and yet (1) no one knows who this guy is and (2) Journey found the guy under a rock?? It all just seems SO ridiculous....Not a whole lot of any of this makes sense, which is why I understand so many people have so many heated opinions about this....But if even a bit of the above is true, what in the hell does that say about the band??

Ugghhhfhphsfff....

I agree, just remember were it came from at the start Deano. I didn't believe it either. Then when I questioned him a few weeks ago, I was lying, or he doesn't remember the conversation, I'm making it earth, he never said no such thing, i was dreaming, That happened on Earth 2 not Earth 1, I'm telling it wrong, it was the Swedish girl, It other personality said it so it doesn't count now, It was opposite day, it was a computer glitch, so things were being typed wrong, it was my Tennessee reading ability that read it wrong, it WAS DEANO....................-ERIC

by **lshphrd** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:42 pm

Jeremey wrote:What I can't understand about the whole situation is this - Why on earth would Journey schedule an entire summer tour with Def Freakin' Leppard, knowing the media and hype that would surround the tour - If their lead singer was suffering from vocal distress?? Sure, do what you got to do to get through the 30th Anniversary tour. It was clear Augeri wasn't on the ground floor from the get go (reference Neal's interview with Kaj maybe at the beginning of the tour where he addressed Augeri's shaky performance during the first several shows, I think Neal's response was "He'd better get better, or it's going to be a long tour..."). But for God's sake, if Augeri needed a year off, who was going to go bankrupt by not touring in 2006? And it would be so important that Neal would have fired Augeri, risking everything the band built over the past 8 years, just in an effort to go out on another summer tour? We know how Herbie feels, but does anyone think Neal is really that dumb? And the other singer scenario - What credibility would Journey have knowing Perry's argument against the band moving on without him was that they wouldn't wait for him to mend - And then just go throw gasoline on that fire by firing Augeri? And who is this other singer? As a singer myself, I know us guys are pretty proud of ourselves and we're going to want to get heard....This guy is better than Perry in his prime, and yet (1) no one knows who this guy is and (2) Journey found the guy under a rock?? It all just seems SO ridiculous....Not a whole lot of any of this makes sense, which is why I understand so many people have so many heated opinions about this....But if even a bit of the above is true, what in the hell does that say about the band??

Ugghhhfhphsfff....

I don;t see Neal pushing Augeri just to go out on tour. I also think that
with the repsonse over the past 8 years to Augeri that Neal would risk
that by firing him. Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:51 pm

lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

by **LAWoman** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:01 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

SA apparently is a good person because he is not suing you (at least not yet). If it were me, even if I was using tapes I'd be filing suit. Your money would be gone long before mine and we'd still be papering. Civil suits take years. So yes he is a good person. He's treating you well (so far).

by **lshphrd** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:05 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

I am sorry for you that you feel that way. I have met the man
more than 1 or two times and I can say that i disagree.
"if" perry were to ever come back, you would not see me
any where near a show or tour or cd.
I saw perry at the hwof and I saw the vh1 behimd the music
if anyone is scandalous it is him. poeple asked me what I thought
of him coming to the wof. personally i could care less.
nor do I care if my saying that Augeri is a good singer or person
is not agreed with. i am basing my opinion on what I see and hear.
rumors and conspiracys don't make any differcne to me or my opionion.

by **wildone** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:06 pm

LAWoman wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

SA apparently is a good person because he is not suing you (at least not yet). If it were me, even if I was using tapes I'd be filing suit. Your money would be gone long before mine and we'd still be papering. Civil suits take years. So yes he is a good person. He's treating you well (so far).

hmmm unless he doesn't have a leg to stand on...

by **lshphrd** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:11 pm

LAWoman wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

SA apparently is a good person because he is not suing you (at least not yet). If it were me, even if I was using tapes I'd be filing suit. Your money would be gone long before mine and we'd still be papering. Civil suits take years. So yes he is a good person. He's treating you well (so far).

good point

by **Mrs H** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:38 pm

Actually that is pretty damn good. If someone is a repetitive drug and alcohol abuser, to the extent that they drive under the influence resulting in the death of other humans AND repetitively trades prescription narcotics for bootlegs........they're credibility is in very SERIOUS question. Sorry, but it doesn't get any better than this. Or more scandalous.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:54 pm

Mrs H wrote:Actually that is pretty damn good. If someone is a repetitive drug and alcohol abuser, to the extent that they drive under the influence resulting in the death of other humans AND repetitively trades prescription narcotics for bootlegs........they're credibility is in very SERIOUS question. Sorry, but it doesn't get any better than this. Or more scandalous.

Wow, lots of serious shit being frivolously thrown around lately. People better have their facts straight.

by **Jeremey** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:27 pm

Mrs H wrote:Actually that is pretty damn good. If someone is a repetitive drug and alcohol abuser, to the extent that they drive under the influence resulting in the death of other humans AND repetitively trades prescription narcotics for bootlegs........they're credibility is in very SERIOUS question. Sorry, but it doesn't get any better than this. Or more scandalous.

Okay, we've seen lots of evidence for the lip synch scandal. So now what in God's name are you talking about and where is your evidence?

by **Infinity** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:42 pm

Mrs H wrote:........they're credibility is in very SERIOUS question.

That's exactly what I'm thinking about you after reading a few of your posts.You have no class,lady.
Oops!Sorry for the "lady" thing.No way you could be one.

by **wildone** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:02 pm

lshphrd wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
lshphrd wrote: Steve Augeri is a better singer and a better person
I am still a fan and enjoy the music becasue of him,

You just lost all credibility with that smokescreen. Steve Augeri is NOT a good person. He is scandulous.

I am sorry for you that you feel that way. I have met the man
more than 1 or two times and I can say that i disagree.
"if" perry were to ever come back, you would not see me
any where near a show or tour or cd.
I saw perry at the hwof and I saw the vh1 behimd the music
if anyone is scandalous it is him. poeple asked me what I thought
of him coming to the wof. personally i could care less.
nor do I care if my saying that Augeri is a good singer or person
is not agreed with. i am basing my opinion on what I see and hear.
rumors and conspiracys don't make any differcne to me or my opionion.

hmmmmm but if it's gonna be a lipsync show why not have steve perry do it!!!He has probably a bigger following (still) then steve a and it was mostly his songs anyway ...and if you don't go anymore...I'm sure a big tear will be shed.....NOT!!!!lmao

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:13 pm

Abitaman wrote:
DarwinNebraska wrote:It's not like anybody really is all that attached to him.

I like him and would take him over Perry any day-ERIC

Seconded.
I roll w/ Augie.

by **NoMoreTails** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:32 am

Abitaman wrote: Don't know if NIG, RED, 28 or any the others can add to it, or if I'm the only Deano talked to about this. Who knows what is true of what he has said-ERIC

You're not the only one Dean told this scenario to, or parts anyway, so when did he decide it never really happened?

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:37 am

I know sketchy details of those behind-the-scenes tribulations as well. Not more than Abs mentioned though.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:48 am

This place is great for hearing news regarding one's own life.

Yesterday, I found out through a poster, that I am now single (news to me), and just now, I found that I trade narcotics for boots (Thanks Leslie), and I also drive under the influence and run people over. Hmm, and I am not in jail. Something needs to be done regarding law enforcement.

by **Angiekay** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:00 am

Rockn'deano wrote:This place is great for hearing news regarding one's own life.

Yesterday, I found out through a poster, that I am now single (news to me), and just now, I found that I trade narcotics for boots (Thanks Leslie), and I also drive under the influence and run people over. Hmm, and I am not in jail. Something needs to be done regarding law enforcement.

I heard you're really Santa Claus. If this is true can I have a wet and whine dolly for Christmas this year?! Pleeeeeease?

MR

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