Pit wrote:"you hear Steve Augeri ad libbing differently"
Notice that the Vegas, ProTooled, mastered for DVD audio is a tightly compressed wave form. The Manchester wave form has lots of peaks and valleys throughout it.[b]
Sorry bud. Without a metronome you can't sync it, or count 4/4 time as real. You, better than anyone understands 4/4 time, and the delay to the walls to crowd to the monitors to your ears.
It's off by fractions of seconds, but it's off nonetheless.
Just another opinion, and 2 hours won't bring you to the right opinion.
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Pit, I know you don't want to believe they are doing what Deano is accusing them of, but Jeremey has done a good job here. I was thinking of doing something similar, but he beat me to it.
I respect your resolve here and are entitled to your opinion, but just because a lot of people don't agree with you or the Journey zealots does not make them wrong.
And to whoever is arguing the waveform is not conclusive, it's pretty good evidence. Due to the fact they are different sources, the peaks may look a little different in amplitude (i.e. volume), but certain peaks will have a similar shape. That's what you look for.
The "Faith in the Heartland" v2 clip to me is quite damning. So is Escape. No one is that dead on with the same vocal every night. I'm sorry. I am also a musician who gigs frequently. That is the same vocal performance. The ad libs in Escape from 2:06 to 2:19 are clearly live, and you have out of sync vocals a tad until 2:34, but it's dead on otherwise.
I love Journey, and am glad to hear Camden was "more live", but the fact is Steve A's voice needs rest. He can sing, and clearly the stuff in studio is him. This is no Martha Wash/C+C Music Factory thing, but it's clear to me he is miming his own stuff.
Had the Mod decided to grant her wish for censorship, he should do so by making her the first model of such actions.... by banning her ass from ever harassing him again with her nonsense! Again, she can’t expect censorship and dictatorship to rule supreme, when she benefits most from the (very) lack of censorship- to the point of abusing those who provide it...it’s hypocritical. I understand she is passionate about her issue, but there are other constructive methods to achieve this. Ignorance is not bliss in this case. It is damaging!
He’s beginning to come across as disturbingly psychotic! He does the Journey Organization no favors by hurling abuse, issuing threats and using “strong arm tactics” to achieve his means. He will rightful find himself locked up- if he is not careful! This poster is coming across as more of a liability to the band than an asset! I would hope that the band is not encouraging this type of behavior and is unaware of what he is doing. I should remind the participant (indulging in this outrageous fashion) of one important factor. You may not like Dean, but there are many witnesses to what you have said (regarding threats). If anything does happen to him, all of this is documented. It will reflect badly on the band. Should that happen, the band will not sully their hands with you. You will be on you own, facing charges, or behind bars!
