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Postby Barb » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:06 am

Didn't that come from the Herbie Herbet interview? He gets a sixth. If that's true, what a sweet deal for him.

whocares wrote:When the whole Perry issue happened, I remember hearing whether true or not, that Perry was getting a cut of the profits from the guys touring, which at first struck me as a brilliant thing. Sit at a baseball game, while money's rolling in, and other people do the work. I never fully believed it, but it's a brilliant approach, even if not true.
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Postby whocares » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:10 am

I believe it might have been. Herbie's a character to say the least, so who knows if he was being fesicious (sp?) or not. I'd like to do that sometime.
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:31 am

whocares wrote:When the whole Perry issue happened, I remember hearing whether true or not, that Perry was getting a cut of the profits from the guys touring


In return for what, though? Why would the guys give him some of the profits? What do they get out of it? Any ideas?

Also, regardless of any deal, Perry still gets his performance royalties every time any song he has writer credits for is performed.
That's got to add up.
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Postby whocares » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:36 am

That's a question for Perry & Herbie. If it was true, I assumed it was one tour maybe, but could be why they tour so much as well. if you were being cut out of 1/6th the profits, you'd have to work more. It's speculation at best as to whether or not it's true.

Keep in mind Perry was the shrewdest businessman of all of the guys, even according to Herbie, who hates Perry.
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:37 am

That was one of the conditions of turning over the name. P gets a cut.
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Postby knox » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:37 am

jrnyjunky wrote:
whocares wrote:When the whole Perry issue happened, I remember hearing whether true or not, that Perry was getting a cut of the profits from the guys touring


In return for what, though? Why would the guys give him some of the profits? What do they get out of it? Any ideas?

Also, regardless of any deal, Perry still gets his performance royalties every time any song he has writer credits for is performed.
That's got to add up.


The 2001 video.

In addition, Perry doesn't get paid every time a song is performed. You can perform his songs all night at a karaoke bar and he doesn't get squat. He negotiated the concert deals, I am sure. What he also gets money from is every time a song of his is recorded on audio and video.
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:42 am

JDouglee wrote:That was one of the conditions of turning over the name. P gets a cut.


So that "Don't crack the stone" comment was really "Don't crack the stone if it's not green."
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Postby EightyRock » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:44 am

There ya go. Herbie said Irving finally made the deal with Perry (he couldn't believe he did it) and that they could re-record the classics live on the 2001 DVD. So is it really live or is it studio? Deano claimed it was studio and was adamant about it. Now THAT would be interesting to know. Perry got pretty creative when it came to putting the screws to them. He must have FELT like they really screwed him first. (This isn't to start some age-old debate) :D I wouldn't want to be on that end of his wrath. Cain did say he was classy for letting them go on with the name, though. I wonder if Perry is still glad he let it go after the tape-gate stuff.
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Postby whocares » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:44 am

money money money money, monaaaayyyy.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:44 am

JDouglee wrote:That was one of the conditions of turning over the name. P gets a cut.


Sounds fair to me :)
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:45 am

knox wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:
whocares wrote:When the whole Perry issue happened, I remember hearing whether true or not, that Perry was getting a cut of the profits from the guys touring


In return for what, though? Why would the guys give him some of the profits? What do they get out of it? Any ideas?

Also, regardless of any deal, Perry still gets his performance royalties every time any song he has writer credits for is performed.
That's got to add up.


The 2001 video.

In addition, Perry doesn't get paid every time a song is performed. You can perform his songs all night at a karaoke bar and he doesn't get squat.


Yes he does, the venue pays a fee to ASCAP or BMI who then pays the artist.
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Postby knox » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:50 am

JrnyJunky, thanks for the correction. I really had no idea :? .
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:54 am

knox wrote:JrnyJunky, thanks for the correction. I really had no idea :? .


You were thinking mechanical royalties, in addition, there are performance royalties. It's pretty confusing.
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Postby whocares » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:57 am

I guess in either case he's getting ROYALLY paid, to attend baseball games. My dream job.
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:07 am

Between Perry's cut, and all the ex wives thats some OVERHEAD. :P
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:10 am

Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:47 am

knox wrote: You can perform his songs all night at a karaoke bar and he doesn't get squat.


The ASCAP fees are paid by the company who manufactures the karaoke disk, based on an estimated number of plays. That money is then sent to the various artists. In addition since most bars play music (either CD's via dj, radio or jukebox) as Jrnyjunky said they also pay a fee on top of that to ASCAP.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:48 am

jrnyjunky wrote:Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?


hehehe... he wore it at the Jones Beach show!
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Postby Barb » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:52 am

Looks pretty good on him though! :lol:


journeygal wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?


hehehe... he wore it at the Jones Beach show!
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:54 am

Barb wrote:Looks pretty good on him though! :lol:


journeygal wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?


hehehe... he wore it at the Jones Beach show!


I (personally) don't dig guys in purple...
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Postby junky » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:03 am

journeygal wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?


hehehe... he wore it at the Jones Beach show!


Yes, I was there and took the pic in my avatar at Jones Beach.
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Postby StyxCollector » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:05 am

jrnysc wrote:Another interesting thing I have noticed. Someone usually always posts regarding a band members health when they are sick. Augeri's wife in fact has done this in the past. No word from ANYONE that I have seen.


As someone said, and as I have said before, gag order. Legalities are a wonderful thing in cases like this. Silence can be bought, eh?
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Postby Lula » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:06 am

I don't get the whole "turning over the name" thing. Was there some sort of 'ownership' of the name that they all shared? What about Gregg?
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Postby Manarocks » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:54 am

journeygal wrote:
Barb wrote:Looks pretty good on him though! :lol:


journeygal wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:Is that why Neal wears the same purple shirt night after night?


hehehe... he wore it at the Jones Beach show!


I (personally) don't dig guys in purple...


You don't :( :( I like purple
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Postby Marabelle » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:15 pm

it's a job; you get sick at work and you are put on sick leave for the duration of your illness; you still get a percentage of your salary. what is the big deal if this is what happened to steve perry. i think he has a right to this money as much as you do when you go on a medical and get paid. i don't think he is going to challenge your right to be paid.
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Postby knox » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:59 pm

Oh, I think Perry SHOULD get paid for his part in those songs...

So, how does Jeremey's band play out in all of this money for performing the songs? Do they send off a specified amount, or a percentage or earnings, or what?
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:13 pm

I've played with cover groups on & off for many years, I've never had to pay a dime.

I think it's up to the club owner, and even then it's not a huge sum. A liquor license costs alot
more than whatever they send to BMI/ASCAP.

Royalties such as these come into play when it's radio or TV broadcasting (or CD release).
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Postby rcavictor64 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:37 pm

Another change or two in the band and it will be a "Tribute" band.
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Augeri's Health

Postby rcavictor64 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:41 pm

If anyone reads something concrete on the absence of S Augeri please post to share it and the website you might have read it on. I know there are questions whether it is his voice or not......I do know that he was having some issues with it at the end of last years tour.....Thanks
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Re: Augeri's Health

Postby Barb » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:07 pm

Why else would he leave if he weren't having vocal problems? What is the speculation?

rcavictor64 wrote:If anyone reads something concrete on the absence of S Augeri please post to share it and the website you might have read it on. I know there are questions whether it is his voice or not......I do know that he was having some issues with it at the end of last years tour.....Thanks
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