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Postby EightyRock » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:32 am

NIG says; " By a very few manic Perry fans. The majority of fans who see them live are casual fans who don't even know Perry is gone. Perry's following is not as big as you think. It's the music that keeps people coming back."

To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on your very last sentence. NIG, if they reunited with Perry for one tour, do you think they would be playing to that same number of fans? If there would be thousands more, why would that be? Or do you think they would still be playing on half a stage opening for Def Leppard?
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Postby whocares » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:38 am

ticket prices would be higher.

They could pull a Bon Jovi and announce say 10 shows across the U.S. in Baseball or Football stadiums. People would drive for hours and hours, mortgage their house, etc. rake in the dough, and release any kind of music they want, after that, never have to tour again, EVER. But that woudln't be enough for Schon.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:40 am

EightyRock wrote:NIG says; " By a very few manic Perry fans. The majority of fans who see them live are casual fans who don't even know Perry is gone. Perry's following is not as big as you think. It's the music that keeps people coming back."

To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on your very last sentence. NIG, if they reunited with Perry for one tour, do you think they would be playing to that same number of fans? If there would be thousands more, why would that be? Or do you think they would still be playing on half a stage opening for Def Leppard?


If Perry came back, they would probably be playing a tour similar to the 30th Anniversary tour (assuming Perry's voice could handle it, which it probably could not). Perry returning wouldn't mean they would be selling out stadiums. This is 2006.
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Postby EightyRock » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:44 am

NIG says; "Perry returning wouldn't mean they would be selling out stadiums. This is 2006."

Hey, I'll give ya that, but they sure wouldn't be stooping to the stuff they are doing now. They'd sell a hell of alot more tickets than the 30th anniversary tour. And what's up with the half a stage stuff on this tour?
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Postby swepett » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:45 am

EightyRock wrote:And what's up with the half a stage stuff on this tour?


How else could they fit two bands on one stage without haveing the fans wait for hours while they rebuild the stage?
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:46 am

EightyRock wrote:NIG says; "Perry returning wouldn't mean they would be selling out stadiums. This is 2006."

Hey, I'll give ya that, but they sure wouldn't be stooping to the stuff they are doing now. They'd sell a hell of alot more tickets than the 30th anniversary tour. And what's up with the half a stage stuff on this tour?


I don't know, but it's what they signed on for. Doesn't matter to me.

Perry would not generate much more interest than the current lineup. I firmly believe that.
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Postby whocares » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:49 am

well then I guess it's time for Perry and Augeri to pull the DLR and Sammy thing from a few years ago. :roll:
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:50 am

whocares wrote:well then I guess it's time for Perry and Augeri to pull the DLR and Sammy thing from a few years ago. :roll:


Perry's growing his hair... it could happen!
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:51 am

If what the band wanted was another soundalike just to get through this Greatest Hits tour, hell yes Jeremy would have been the best choice they could possibly have made. There's also Hugo and another singer for a band called Escape that could have filled the bill adequately. They know these guys are out there, but instead they called on a very busy singer who has a career of his own, albeit not as well known in this country as Journey, who sings a different style of music.

That leads me to believe there is some plan afoot here. I may be wrong, it could just be because Neal is so familiar with Jeff. It doesn't seem as though Jeff would have dropped everything on a day's notice to fill in for the duration of this tour if that's all there was to it. Again, I could be wrong, it may just be friendship with Neal.

I think this is testing the waters for a new direction for Journey and if so I'm all for it. I'm not going to judge Jeff's abilities to make this a credible band on what people think of a couple boots from his first performances with them. At first I thought he must have been preparing for a while because stepping in on only a day's notice seemed too outrageous, but Andrew has said that that was indeed the case. He's doing a hell of a job and in a circumstance that most people wouldn't touch.

If he can lead Journey in a direction that will make them more than just a nostalgia act destined for obscurity then I'm going to give him every chance to do so. If they stay on the soundalike course playing nothing but Greatest Hits you'll probably be seeing them in a couple years at your local Harvest Jubilee.

Like I've said before, I want more than that for the legacy of Journey.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:54 am

ohsherrie wrote:If he can lead Journey in a direction that will make them more than just a nostalgia act destined for obscurity then I'm going to give him every chance to do so.


If Perry came back, that is exactly what they would be. A one-tour nostalgia act that would then fade away forever.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:59 am

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If Perry came back, that is exactly what they would be. A one-tour nostalgia act that would then fade away forever.


So what? I would take a Final Farewell of major arenas and the classic lineup in a heartbeat. If you think about it, everything is set for Perry to return. There is no singer, really. The time is right, if there ever was one.

These guys are addicted to scratch. They would get more bank from ONE tour with Perry than the previous 8 years combined.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:02 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
If Perry came back, that is exactly what they would be. A one-tour nostalgia act that would then fade away forever.


So what? I would take a Final Farewell of major arenas and the classic lineup in a heartbeat. If you think about it, everything is set for Perry to return. There is no singer, really. The time is right, if there ever was one.

These guys are addicted to scratch. They would get more bank from ONE tour with Perry than the previous 8 years combined.


I disagree. Journey is no bigger than DL, and DL has their singer. And they can't sell out arenas by themselves anymore. All you would get is more of the die-hard Perry fans (read: hausfraus) coming to the shows.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:35 am

NealIsGod wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:If he can lead Journey in a direction that will make them more than just a nostalgia act destined for obscurity then I'm going to give him every chance to do so.


If Perry came back, that is exactly what they would be. A one-tour nostalgia act that would then fade away forever.



But NIG, I'm not asking for Perry to come back. I'm asking people to give Jeff a chance to give them a new sound. If that doesn't happen and they stay on the Greatest Hits with a soundalike road, then hell yeah, let Perry come back for a reunion tour and then retire the name.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:37 am

ohsherrie wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:If he can lead Journey in a direction that will make them more than just a nostalgia act destined for obscurity then I'm going to give him every chance to do so.


If Perry came back, that is exactly what they would be. A one-tour nostalgia act that would then fade away forever.



But NIG, I'm not asking for Perry to come back. I'm asking people to give Jeff a chance to give them a new sound. If that doesn't happen and they stay on the Greatest Hits with a soundalike road, then hell yeah, let Perry come back for a reunion tour and then retire the name.


Sorry, I quoted you, but was directing that at the people who are clamoring for a Perry comeback.
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Postby swepett » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:39 am

NealIsGod wrote:I disagree. Journey is no bigger than DL, and DL has their singer. And they can't sell out arenas by themselves anymore. All you would get is more of the die-hard Perry fans (read: hausfraus) coming to the shows.


I agree with you. This is 2006, not 1981. So much have changed during those 25 years. Not only Journey. It wasn't like all American media started hoping for Perry when Augeri left. They just published the press release and went on with it. Most media probably even threw away that press release.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:42 am

NealIsGod wrote:Sorry, I quoted you, but was directing that at the people who are clamoring for a Perry comeback.


No problem. :)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:53 am

Rockn'deano wrote: If you think about it, everything is set for Perry to return. There is no singer, really. The time is right, if there ever was one.



That's true. Now that Journey has no "official" lead singer it would be the best time to do it.
But I don't see it happening.
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:24 am

I hope it doesnt happen. Not saying I wouldn't go see them, but there would be no Journey afterwards-ERIC
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Postby Big J » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:56 am

FACT: Those pipes are GONE. They were gone in '86, they were gone in '94, they were gone in '96 and they're gone now.

FACT: Steve Perry doesn't want to tour. If he did, he'd have done it.

I love wishing and hoping as much as the next guy, but hell...let's be real.

And the last time Perry started growing his hair he let it get to his ass before he did anything. We could be waiting a few more years
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:56 am

whocares wrote:Most concertgoers don't want a Perry soundalike, hell they just want to hear the songs. Most fans here that love Perry certainly don't want a look alike or sound alike, as there was previously. If anyone thinks Singing songs "just like" Perry doesn't ruin voices, then they know nothing about singing correctly. This is something that through time will never change, Journey is a love hate thing with the band and the fans, the two sides of love. Love Perry or love anyone else who is the lead singer.

It's funny the more Jeremy says he woudln't/doesn't want the job, the more his name is brought up. Certainly after the fiasco earlier, he wouldn't take it, as his feelings towards the band members changed, everyone could see that.
I'm a day late and a $ short. What fiasco?
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Postby whocares » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:59 am

thevoicelover wrote:
whocares wrote:Most concertgoers don't want a Perry soundalike, hell they just want to hear the songs. Most fans here that love Perry certainly don't want a look alike or sound alike, as there was previously. If anyone thinks Singing songs "just like" Perry doesn't ruin voices, then they know nothing about singing correctly. This is something that through time will never change, Journey is a love hate thing with the band and the fans, the two sides of love. Love Perry or love anyone else who is the lead singer.

It's funny the more Jeremy says he woudln't/doesn't want the job, the more his name is brought up. Certainly after the fiasco earlier, he wouldn't take it, as his feelings towards the band members changed, everyone could see that.
I'm a day late and a $ short. What fiasco?




fiasco? did I say there was a fiasco? nope, never happened. :wink:
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