Is it JSS or SA singing?

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Postby yulog » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:45 am

why would i believe a cover up of a mistake unless their using a tape for soto's voice to sound like augeri. no one over at the journey site believes CJ anyway shes had to close one thread read the others replys even after cj said it was soto there may be some of deans voice in there but i dont hear soto at all his voice is very distinct . unless its been filtered plus someone said that the site was down for a while if thats the case who knows what happened
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Postby heardonthestreet » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:47 am

It seems that most over there recognize their Steve and didn't mind saying so, before they were shut down.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan4Life » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:47 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
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JrnyFan4Life wrote:I am not going to break into beating a dead horse mode, but the Promo is new, live and the vocals are of JSS/Deen/Ross/Jon/Neal and they were just done. If you think you hear Steve, you are hearing Deen singing those parts.


You are out of your fucking mind.

If you can't tell immediately that that is Augeri from 2001 DVD, you lose all cred right there. I am 100% right on this, end of story. Deen is NOT singing anywhere on this tape, and if you watch, Jeff is visually singing, but not heard actually singing.



Sorry Deano, should of made that more clearer, that's CJ's response to my post on BT, dunno wether I should of posted what she said here or not but it's done now. Sorry for the confusion.


Yeah, I am sorry for jumpin ya. She is a Pre School teacher over there. I feel for her, because she has to lie to the minions, and they actually believe her. I wonder if CJ ever gets disgusted? I bet she does.




Maybe that's why she has such an itchy trigger finger when it comes to closing topcis :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:47 am

I just cannot believe we are having this discussion.

It is all Augeri, plain and simple.

NO Neal
NO Ross
NO Friga
NO Deen
and NO Jeff

No wonder tapegate was such a hard sell...some of you are retards.
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Postby Liam » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:50 am

THAT IS STEVE AUGERI'S VOICE IN THE PROMO. Simple as that.
Don't know why they didn't use JSS's vocals?!?!
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Postby StyxCollector » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:57 am

Yeesh ... it's a COMMERCIAL. Hell, Styx still uses DDY in theirs. While misleading, it's standard practice. Nothing to see here. Move on.
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:02 am

I finally played it...

AUGERI.

Was it too hard to get 5 seconds of JSS singing, management? The long note near the end could be him, but earlier is DEFINITELY Steve A. so I don't see why they would do that.

If JSS posted to say it was him, he either doesn't know his own voice or he's covering up.
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Postby The Fly » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:04 am

Escape79 wrote:THAT IS STEVE AUGERI'S VOICE IN THE PROMO. Simple as that.
Don't know why they didn't use JSS's vocals?!?!


Because it wouldn't sound like "Journey" that's why. :wink:
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:05 am

The vocals on the promo are Augeri's as far as I can tell.
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Postby Argus » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:10 am

JSS wrote:My take it's JSS...duh!


JSS=JSS from your fingers to our ears dude :!:
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Postby Liam » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:12 am

StyxCollector wrote:Yeesh ... it's a COMMERCIAL. Hell, Styx still uses DDY in theirs. While misleading, it's standard practice. Nothing to see here. Move on.


And I thank God for that 'cause I don't wanna hear Gowan more than I have to. LOL. j/k
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Postby The Fly » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:17 am

Escape79 wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:Yeesh ... it's a COMMERCIAL. Hell, Styx still uses DDY in theirs. While misleading, it's standard practice. Nothing to see here. Move on.


And I thank God for that 'cause I don't wanna hear Gowan more than I have to. LOL. j/k


I actually think he was a good choice for a replacement. I like Gowan and think he sounds similar to DeYoung.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:28 am

I think this one's just a misunderstanding. The video is obviously new from a recent show or something like that. The audio is older, perhaps from the 2001 DVD. Bands do this kind of thing all the time for concert promos, i.e. taking video filmed at one of their recent shows and synching it up with older audio. Nothing wrong with that.
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Postby yulog » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:30 am

how could so many journey fans be wrong especially when some of those fans have trained ears for music----CJ wrote the video is them she did not clarify completly that the audio was that leaves a way out but at this point who cares
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Postby Barb » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:42 am

So why is CJ lying and saying it's JSS?

conversationpc wrote:I think this one's just a misunderstanding. The video is obviously new from a recent show or something like that. The audio is older, perhaps from the 2001 DVD. Bands do this kind of thing all the time for concert promos, i.e. taking video filmed at one of their recent shows and synching it up with older audio. Nothing wrong with that.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:46 am

Barb wrote:So why is CJ lying and saying it's JSS?


She was probably told this was a live clip filmed for the promo and they didn't specify that the audio was taken from an older show, the 2001 DVD, or some other source. However, bands that are promoting a tour do this kind of thing all the time, i.e., using a live clip from a recent show but throwing in older audio that probably sounds better than any audio they would get from live footage. I don't think CJ is lying at all, but perhaps just under the impression that the whole thing is live. The Def Leppard portion is obviously new footage with old audio as well, for that matter.
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Postby StyxCollector » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:52 am

Evilweevil wrote:I actually think he was a good choice for a replacement. I like Gowan and think he sounds similar to DeYoung.


He may be a decent choice, but he sounds nothing like DDY.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:52 am

So CJ can't tell the difference between JSS and Steve? You'd think she'd post her own doubts instead of insisting it is JSS and blowing off the HUGE majority who KNOW it is Steve Augeri!

BT scares the hell out of me these days.

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Barb wrote:So why is CJ lying and saying it's JSS?


She was probably told this was a live clip filmed for the promo and they didn't specify that the audio was taken from an older show, the 2001 DVD, or some other source. However, bands that are promoting a tour do this kind of thing all the time, i.e., using a live clip from a recent show but throwing in older audio that probably sounds better than any audio they would get from live footage. I don't think CJ is lying at all, but perhaps just under the impression that the whole thing is live. The Def Leppard portion is obviously new footage with old audio as well, for that matter.
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:55 am

Barb wrote:So CJ can't tell the difference between JSS and Steve? You'd think she'd post her own doubts instead of insisting it is JSS and blowing off the HUGE majority who KNOW it is Steve Augeri!

BT scares the hell out of me these days.


I don't know. Journey did the same thing when they first started touring with Steve Augeri. They used some live footage of the band with Augeri fronting them and used older audio of Perry, if I remember correctly. I know for sure they used audio with Perry for radio commercials at the time.
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Postby Barb » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:56 am

Oh I remember that! :lol:

conversationpc wrote:I don't know. Journey did the same thing when they first started touring with Steve Augeri. They used some live footage of the band with Augeri fronting them and used older audio of Perry, if I remember correctly. I know for sure they used audio with Perry for radio commercials at the time.
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Postby Argus » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:11 am

Barb wrote:Oh I remember that! :lol:

conversationpc wrote:I don't know. Journey did the same thing when they first started touring with Steve Augeri. They used some live footage of the band with Augeri fronting them and used older audio of Perry, if I remember correctly. I know for sure they used audio with Perry for radio commercials at the time.


Here's the deal, most folks can't tell the difference between Deen and SA either or Deen and Perry. Secret Weapon for you conspiracy buffs :wink: when JSS comes on this Forum and says it's JSS singing, then I'm not following the logic here. Oh wait! This isn't logic at all, silly me, this is all opinion and perception. A clear case of Pareidolia. Image very interesting :wink:
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Postby *Laura » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:32 am

ace wrote:... when JSS comes on this Forum and says it's JSS singing, then I'm not following the logic here. Oh wait! This isn't logic at all, silly me, this is all opinion and perception. A clear case of Pareidolia. :wink:


Very good,Ace! :lol: Only this is not a case of Pareidolia,because it is not an illusion.The voice in the promo IS Augeri's.
The logic? JSS,if him,should have said:"Hey,this is Jeff,and yes,that's my voice on the promo." Sounds better than "It's JSS...duh!",isn't it? :wink:

Oh,these mind games.Tsk tsk. :lol:
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:06 am

MartyMoffatt wrote:
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MartyMoffatt wrote:What does this band have to do to convince people? JSS has confirmed its him singing. The band's management have come forward and categorically confirmed they did the live shoot for the video and it is this band singing - and that's still not enough for you?

We're not talking Tapegate here, where the band's decision not to make a statement apparently gave you all free rein to come out with all sorts of conspiracy theories. This time they have confirmed something and still you don't believe them. It seems to me that if you have such a complete lack of respect for the band you're probably following the wrong band.

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Marty, look at the first part of the clip. The voice doesn't match jss on dsb. It's off


That's probably because you're hearing Deen sing the high parts here.

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Like Deen put in the high parts for Augeri that everyone had a cow about-ERIC
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Postby JSS » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:16 am

After listening better, it is SA, we did audio for it but it probably wasn't up to par for use...I am sure that will change down the road if it even matters, remember, everywhere we go people still think Perry is in the band, bottom line most don't really care?

We'll see later if we care enough to put my voice in it just the same....by the way, I've hit higher notes than the high B on Seperate Ways to the moron who said I couldn't if my life depended on it...from the song Colour My XTC hitting the high Eb above this 'B' back '94 to the new Talisman album hitting the same note on a song called Falling....again, does it really matter...idiot! :)
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Postby Marabelle » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:21 am

guess you've made it abundantly clear
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:30 am

It is a commerical, what does it matter :twisted:
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Postby Barb » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:30 am

only that the masses will be duped into thinking it still sounds like Journey, I guess.


Abitaman wrote:It is a commerical, what does it matter :twisted:
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Postby Marabelle » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:39 am

and even if JSS comes in here again...i dare anyone to say...he needs to get a life!! :)
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Postby momto2 » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:43 am

JSS wrote:After listening better, it is SA, we did audio for it but it probably wasn't up to par for use...I am sure that will change down the road if it even matters, remember, everywhere we go people still think Perry is in the band, bottom line most don't really care?

We'll see later if we care enough to put my voice in it just the same....by the way, I've hit higher notes than the high B on Seperate Ways to the moron who said I couldn't if my life depended on it...from the song Colour My XTC hitting the high Eb above this 'B' back '94 to the new Talisman album hitting the same note on a song called Falling....again, does it really matter...idiot! :)


First, no offense was meant. I saw you live last week and your vocal range doesn't seem nearly as high as SA's. Second, I will definitely make sure to skip the Journey set at the next couple of shows. Resorting to name calling is very classy. Third, it's SEPARATE WAYS, not SEPERATE WAYS. Sheesh.
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Postby The Fly » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:48 am

JSS wrote:After listening better, it is SA, we did audio for it but it probably wasn't up to par for use...I am sure that will change down the road if it even matters, remember, everywhere we go people still think Perry is in the band, bottom line most don't really care?

We'll see later if we care enough to put my voice in it just the same....by the way, I've hit higher notes than the high B on Seperate Ways to the moron who said I couldn't if my life depended on it...from the song Colour My XTC hitting the high Eb above this 'B' back '94 to the new Talisman album hitting the same note on a song called Falling....again, does it really matter...idiot! :)


You are an amazing talent and a great singer no doubt. I don't question whether or not you can hit the notes. But to me it still doesn't sound like "Journey". That is NOT a knock on you or your abilities. Maybe the casual fan doesn't care if the voice sounds anything like "Perry". But I assure you that many diehards care very much.
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