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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:10 pm

MATTHEW wrote:Positive Touch - Journey (the only song in the world which is actually better for the presence of a saxophone...)


UH, the sax that trades off back and forthe with Gary Richrath's guitar in "Say You Love Me or Say Goodnight" rocks that song to a close pretty well don't ya think?
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:37 pm

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Love that song, inspired chorus :) And Dokken is one of the best singers in my book.


Back not long after I started learning to play guitar, I rewrote the lyrics to that song. Basically just changed a few of the words around and added another verse. I never did play it, though. It's my favorite Dokken tune.

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Cool that you have that kind of skill :) I actually tried to learn the guitar as a teenager, but my patience to learn wasn't there. So I will remain the master of the recorder which I played for 11 years. I know, probably the least heavy instrument on the planet :P
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:12 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Positive Touch - Journey (the only song in the world which is actually better for the presence of a saxophone...)


UH, the sax that trades off back and forthe with Gary Richrath's guitar in "Say You Love Me or Say Goodnight" rocks that song to a close pretty well don't ya think?


I haven't heard that song, Raider Fan. Who's it by?
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:13 pm

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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:12 pm

Stargazer - Rainbow
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:23 pm

MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.
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Postby rdekker » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:04 pm

I have a bootleg version form Monster's og Rock (1980 ?) with Graham Bonnet on vocals.. amazing..

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:10 pm

rdekker wrote:I have a bootleg version form Monster's og Rock (1980 ?) with Graham Bonnet on vocals.. amazing..

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes no one can doubt Bonnet's skills either. :) However, he has always been my least favourite of the four Rainbow singers. I much prefer Turner or Dio. I saw the video of "Since You've Been Gone" and it struck me how much Bonnet really looked like Jim Carrey, at least from a distance :D
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:10 pm

Lilla_Forever wrote:Cool that you have that kind of skill :) I actually tried to learn the guitar as a teenager, but my patience to learn wasn't there. So I will remain the master of the recorder which I played for 11 years. I know, probably the least heavy instrument on the planet :P


I was never actually that good at playing guitar and haven't played now in years, so I wouldn't say I had any real skill there.

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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:36 pm

NP: Boston - Peace of Mind

Brilliant AOR, one of their best songs!
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:49 pm

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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:20 pm

Lilla_Forever wrote:
MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes - it's possibly Dio's finest performance, don't you think? I especially love the way he improvises in the last couple of minutes of the song. :)
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:26 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes - it's possibly Dio's finest performance, don't you think? I especially love the way he improvises in the last couple of minutes of the song. :)


Have you heard RJD's vocals on two of the tracks from Kerry Livgren's first solo album "Seeds of Change"? Those are just as good as his performance on "Stargazer", in my opinion.
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:27 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes - it's possibly Dio's finest performance, don't you think? I especially love the way he improvises in the last couple of minutes of the song. :)


I totally agree! His singing is simply off the charts :) I especially enjoy the way he holds that powerful "faaaar!" in the choruses. Incredible.
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:29 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes - it's possibly Dio's finest performance, don't you think? I especially love the way he improvises in the last couple of minutes of the song. :)


Have you heard RJD's vocals on two of the tracks from Kerry Livgren's first solo album "Seeds of Change"? Those are just as good as his performance on "Stargazer", in my opinion.


OK, I have never heard that album. Gotta find it 8)
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:32 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Stargazer - Rainbow


One of the best tunes EVER! It's epic :D 8) Dio's singing on there is incredible as is Blackmore's guitar work. It was the song that got me into Rainbow.


Yes - it's possibly Dio's finest performance, don't you think? I especially love the way he improvises in the last couple of minutes of the song. :)


Have you heard RJD's vocals on two of the tracks from Kerry Livgren's first solo album "Seeds of Change"? Those are just as good as his performance on "Stargazer", in my opinion.


OK, I have never heard that album. Gotta find it 8)


Nor have I! Is it easy to track down nowadays?
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:37 pm

MATTHEW wrote:Nor have I! Is it easy to track down nowadays?


The copy I have came packaged as part of Livgren's "Decade" compilation, so I don't actually have the original album.
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:39 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Nor have I! Is it easy to track down nowadays?


The copy I have came packaged as part of Livgren's "Decade" compilation, so I don't actually have the original album.



Okay - I'll try to find that compilation. How many songs does Dio sing on "Decade"?
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:41 pm

NP: Thunderstone - Tool of the Devil

On Pandora, ever capable of surprises :) Does anybody know them? Excellent melodic power metal!
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:46 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Nor have I! Is it easy to track down nowadays?


The copy I have came packaged as part of Livgren's "Decade" compilation, so I don't actually have the original album.



Okay - I'll try to find that compilation. How many songs does Dio sing on "Decade"?


He does two: "Mask of the Great Deceiver" and "To Live for the King".

"Seeds of Change" was recorded not long after Livgren became a Christian, hence the title of the album. When he wrote the songs, he thought of whose voice would be perfect for each song and picked RJD to sing those two. He was right on because Dio's voice is perfect for those tunes. Steve Walsh also sings one song on the album, along with David Pack of Ambrosia, and a few others. Livgren even sings vocals on one tune himself, which I believe is the only song in his career that he has sung lead vocals on.

Anyway, it's a pretty good album, much better than most of Livgren's non-Kansas material.
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:54 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Nor have I! Is it easy to track down nowadays?


The copy I have came packaged as part of Livgren's "Decade" compilation, so I don't actually have the original album.



Okay - I'll try to find that compilation. How many songs does Dio sing on "Decade"?


He does two: "Mask of the Great Deceiver" and "To Live for the King".

"Seeds of Change" was recorded not long after Livgren became a Christian, hence the title of the album. When he wrote the songs, he thought of whose voice would be perfect for each song and picked RJD to sing those two. He was right on because Dio's voice is perfect for those tunes. Steve Walsh also sings one song on the album, along with David Pack of Ambrosia, and a few others. Livgren even sings vocals on one tune himself, which I believe is the only song in his career that he has sung lead vocals on.

Anyway, it's a pretty good album, much better than most of Livgren's non-Kansas material.



Wow...he became a Christian and hired RJD...the King of the Devil Horn Salute! Cheers Dave - I'll definitely track that album down.

By the way, I was a huge Savatage fan in the 1980s...but I haven't heard any material recorded after Chris Olivia died. Is it any good? And is it true that Jon is just doing keyboards and backing vocals now?
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:01 pm

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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:05 pm

MATTHEW wrote:Wow...he became a Christian and hired RJD...the King of the Devil Horn Salute! Cheers Dave - I'll definitely track that album down.


He mentions in the liner notes that Dio had just begun singing for Black Sabbath at the time he was getting ready to record the album. He also says that Dio "was no Satanist". In fact, he says that he believed God blessed those recording sessions and even mentioned that Barriemore Barlow (Jethro Tull), who was not a Christian, said he felt God was using him on this album.

By the way, here is a link to the album on answers.com. There is a "buy now" link underneath the album cover art.

http://www.answers.com/topic/seeds-of-change-album

By the way, I was a huge Savatage fan in the 1980s...but I haven't heard any material recorded after Chris Olivia died. Is it any good? And is it true that Jon is just doing keyboards and backing vocals now?


Yeah, I love the post-Criss stuff. "Handful of Rain" is the first album recorded after that tragic event and Alex Skolnick (Testement) was the guitarist for that album and tour. "Dead Winter Dead" is my favorite Savatage album and was released a year later. Criss was a great and very underrated guitarist but, for the most part, the Savatage material after he died is my favorite Savatage era.
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:12 pm

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MATTHEW wrote:Wow...he became a Christian and hired RJD...the King of the Devil Horn Salute! Cheers Dave - I'll definitely track that album down.


He mentions in the liner notes that Dio had just begun singing for Black Sabbath at the time he was getting ready to record the album. He also says that Dio "was no Satanist". In fact, he says that he believed God blessed those recording sessions and even mentioned that Barriemore Barlow (Jethro Tull), who was not a Christian, said he felt God was using him on this album.

By the way, here is a link to the album on answers.com. There is a "buy now" link underneath the album cover art.

http://www.answers.com/topic/seeds-of-change-album

By the way, I was a huge Savatage fan in the 1980s...but I haven't heard any material recorded after Chris Olivia died. Is it any good? And is it true that Jon is just doing keyboards and backing vocals now?


Yeah, I love the post-Criss stuff. "Handful of Rain" is the first album recorded after that tragic event and Alex Skolnick (Testement) was the guitarist for that album and tour. "Dead Winter Dead" is my favorite Savatage album and was released a year later. Criss was a great and very underrated guitarist but, for the most part, the Savatage material after he died is my favorite Savatage era.


I should find more material from them. One song I really like though is Strange Wings from the album Hall of the Mountain King.
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Postby cetera » Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:13 pm

Savatage were really nice guys as well.... :)

I was touring Japan with my KISS Tribute Band 'Dressed To Kill' in 1996 and one night we hit a small bar. There was a stage there and when we got up to jam the guys from Savatage walked into the bar (having played locally that night) and joined us onstage for some rock classics (Queen/Zep/KISS etc)... 8)

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