just listened to a boot from one of the shows with JSS

[FormerJrnyFan]

Hard to tell who's saying what here.

I'm with ya.. my eyes are burning

Weird...When I responded to that message, the original one didn't have the bold parts, just the "" and "" without actually turning the text bold.

Just way too long of a rant for me

[Monker]

AC/DC : Johnson replacing Scott happened at the BEGINNING of their career. Let's see what happens when somebody replaces Johnson after 30yrs of the band performing the same style of songs live and in the studio.

Hmmm...when Johnson joined AC/DC, the band had already released:

High Voltage (1975) — every song is a classic, the most memorable being "It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Want To Rock 'N' Roll)."

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (1976) — ditto, with the title track, the hilarious "Big Balls," etc.

Let There Be Rock (1977) — bitchin' title track plus a whole bunch of songs now regarded as AC/DC standards

Powerage (1978) — solid album but you never hear any of the songs from this one on the radio, which is gay!

If You Want Blood You've Got It (1978) — live album issued at the right time.

Highway To Hell (1979) — most successful album to date with a hit title track, plus "The Girl's Got Rhythm" and "Shot Down In Flames."

That's a whopping five studio albums and a live record. Johnson was damn fortunate to have a voice that conformed to the band's sound without any shake-ups, and to get in there right as the band's career was exploding like a volcano. Talk about eerily convenient. So no, Johnson did not join AC/DC at the "beginning."

And nobody will replace Johnson. AC/DC's one band wise enough to call it a day if they get tired of making all that money.

FOUJR years out of the *THIRTY* years of the existence of the band. Even Augeri has been with Journey TWICE that amount of time. My point of saying at the 'beginning' was in comparison to Journey - where JSS, or whoever, would be replacing Augeri at the END of their carreer.

[Monker]

Cherone didn't suck as much as the songs did...he even admitted he was TOLD to sound/sing a certain way on the crap they put in front of him. Red 13 comes to mind in this comment!

You can make any excuse you want, but Cherone simply did not sound right in that band.

As for Red 13, I like it...and it wasn't like it was out there on a major label for everyone to buy.

The beginning for you maybe, are you kidding me? They did 6 or 7 albums with him before he died, the last being Highway To Hell which was a pinnacle one to their success before Brian came in.

In the beginning as compared to now, which is at the END...as I explained in the other post.

Not the point, talking voices not billing....you could call it Queen + Carol Channing, iit wasn't so much about the frontman fans just accepted it & came in droves to 'hear the music'!

Oh, please show me how you know WHY the fans showed up? You have Queen, you have Paul Rogers...That doubles their fanbase right there.

Um, huge difference in their voices, same differences as Perry & Augeri...although some call Augeri a Perry soundalike, I find it further from reality.

There was even a radio interview on AT40 where Peterik SAYS that is one of the good things about Jamison - that he sounds similar enough to the old guy to keep those fans happy, but has his own talents to take the band in a different direction - EXACTLY as what was said about Augeri. Many, many, MANY people still think he sings "Eye of the Tiger"...if their voices are so different, why would people think such things?

Sure, that is if they play their cards the wrong way & don't take advantage of a 'new beginning'. If they concentrate on an album that 1 guy sings primarily the whole album (of course I say let Deen sing a couple, gotta take advantage of that throat!) & management can get them a real deal instead of giving the thing away, they could have a chance at a new hit single. The writing capability there is monstrous, if not taken advantage of, yes, i see them with REO at another County Fair.

There is no way in hell you are going to convince me that Journey is ever going to have a hit album or single again. How many 'bands' from the 40's had huge hits in the 70's? How many bands from the 50's had a huge hit in the 80's? How many bands from the 60's had huge hits in the 90's? It's a VERY rare thing...a nearly IMPOSSIBLE thing...and it's compounded with your idea of changing their sound, and changing their frontman not once, but TWICE. It just isn't going to happen...especialy when Journey hasn't shown ANY interest in having a label in years.

Right, but at a 3 hour extravaganza, they have delivered the goods, on this recent one, people shrug the goods.

On their last tour, they had to CUT some of the new songs, and some of the pre-Perry songs BECAUSE the crowd just didn't get it. So, they 'delivered' the goods...the crowd was miffed, so they started deliverying more of what they wanted - the more familiar songs.

Augeri didn't sound like Journey either, his voice was a soft tenor who 'hit the notes' but did he sing with Perry's inflections, soul & power...um, no.

Singing like Perry isn't what I mean by 'sound like Journey'. He had a certain melodic touch that fit those songs. I have NEVER felt he sounded like a Perry clone. I have NEVER felt Chalfant sounds like a Perry clone either.

you're never gonna please everyone but the majority don't give a shit as much as the ones who spent countless hours a day here posting.

I disagree - they DO 'give a shit'...If they didn't, they wouldn't shell out $50 - 100 a ticket to see the band. When all you have left ARE the "I don't give a shit"ers, THEN you will see them exclusively at the free festivals.

And puhleeze...Sammy sounded like VH because of the guitar...think about the hits they had with him, Right Now, When It's Love, Dreams...you mean sounds like VH cuz of the keyboards right?

That's not what I mean. A HUGE portion of the focus of VH is Eddie. Not so much the vocals. So, when they bring in a rocker like Sammy, it's a natural fit. When they bring in a funkster, like Cherone - it doesn't make sense, and it doesn't work. If you bring in a metal guy to sing for Journey, it makes about as much sense as putting him in Air Supply...or putting Perry in Black Sabbath.

You misunderstood my statement of having the right...I referred to this right based on a bootleg or a review...you have NO idea what a Journey/JSS recording sounds like until you pop into a CD player therefore no right to judge what it will sound like before this occurs. That's like saying because it was sunny today it will be sunny tomorrow!

I have EVERY right to say it. First of all, I'm talking about the live shows so far. Anything they record is going to be about as relevant as Red 13 and Generations anyway...So, IMO, that is all a mute point. Mainstream will totaly ignore it, and it won't be aimed at them anyway.

[Voyager]

I think Hugo is the man for the job in Journey.

You're right on dude. Hugo would be awesome in Journey.

[Blueskies]

Could not disagree with you more.

[conversationpc]

Could not disagree with you more.

I could not agree with your disagreement more...

[yulog]

man monker is killing you as far as debate goes give it up already you keep digging a deeper hole with each reply

[NealIsGod]

Cherone sucked b/c the songs sucked on VHIII. I thought his voice worked well in that band.

[johnroxx]

Cherone sucked b/c the songs sucked on VHIII. I thought his voice worked well in that band.

Absolutely. I had the pleasure of interviewing Cherone to preview the show in Del Mar, CA on that tour. He seemed genuinely excited to be involved with the band at that point, but with the crap album they were touring in support of, the Cherone-fronted VH was doomed from the start anyway.

;^)

[Rockindeano]

Give the guy a few weeks and see what happens. I was concerned after listening to the Charlotte boot but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He has the pipes and with proper rest I'd bet he will sounf a lot better.

I think he has sounded progressively better each time out. He definitely needs the rest, so I'm hoping he is able to bring it back stronger in the next round.

Rest? WTF? He has had 2-3 weeks prior to Augeri's firing. yes, he knew he was coming in. This entire thing was orchestrated. Jeff knew he had 3 weeks. But why in the hell would he need a rest? He needs a new octave or two to sing the Perry Dozen.

[JSS]

Give the guy a few weeks and see what happens. I was concerned after listening to the Charlotte boot but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He has the pipes and with proper rest I'd bet he will sounf a lot better.

I think he has sounded progressively better each time out. He definitely needs the rest, so I'm hoping he is able to bring it back stronger in the next round.

Rest? WTF? He has had 2-3 weeks prior to Augeri's firing. yes, he knew he was coming in. This entire thing was orchestrated. Jeff knew he had 3 weeks. But why in the hell would he need a rest? He needs a new octave or two to sing the Perry Dozen.

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

[fred_journeyman]

You're right on dude. Hugo would be awesome in Journey.

Hugo's voice is too "thin," in my opinion and he is not the "truest" singer I've ever heard. In other words, he tends to "float" from the notes, going either sharp or flat way too often. He may have the Perry imitation down pat, but his singing voice is really a pale shadow of the man.

[conversationpc]

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

Deano, proven wrong...

[larryfromnextdoor]

Give the guy a few weeks and see what happens. I was concerned after listening to the Charlotte boot but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

He has the pipes and with proper rest I'd bet he will sounf a lot better.

I think he has sounded progressively better each time out. He definitely needs the rest, so I'm hoping he is able to bring it back stronger in the next round.

Rest? WTF? He has had 2-3 weeks prior to Augeri's firing. yes, he knew he was coming in. This entire thing was orchestrated. Jeff knew he had 3 weeks. But why in the hell would he need a rest? He needs a new octave or two to sing the Perry Dozen.

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

wow... , this cat is off the hook.. jss does rule the stage!

[fred_journeyman]

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

Hmmm, well either JSS is lying...or Deano...you might be mistaken.

Hey JSS, while you're here, any idea what Deano is talking about when he says that he just found out some new information that if made public would absolutely KILL the band?

One other thing, Jeff...I notice when you sing LIGHTS, etc., you DO seem to strain a bit (please understand that this is not a slam, just something I noticed). I was wondering why you don't sing more in your head voice for those notes? Crap, I'm sure this sounds like I'm busting your chops, but I'm really just asking a simple question - no hidden agenda, just curious, that's all.

[jrnysc]

And JSS, please remember MOST of us are behind you 100%, and glad you are with the band. Some of us are even pretty cool folks!!

[Just Mindy]

And JSS, please remember MOST of us are behind you 100%, and glad you are with the band. Some of us are even pretty cool folks!!

I'm in the MOST catagory

[JSS]

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

Hmmm, well either JSS is lying...or Deano...you might be mistaken.

Hey JSS, while you're here, any idea what Deano is talking about when he says that he just found out some new information that if made public would absolutely KILL the band?

One other thing, Jeff...I notice when you sing LIGHTS, etc., you DO seem to strain a bit (please understand that this is not a slam, just something I noticed). I was wondering why you don't sing more in your head voice for those notes? Crap, I'm sure this sounds like I'm busting your chops, but I'm really just asking a simple question - no hidden agenda, just curious, that's all.

Depends on where you heard the 'strain'...normally that high B, the same in DSB & the end of SW, is easy for me so I don't need the head voice, it's the C on up that I switch...

Band biz, I don't discuss anything publicly to anyone, as well, even I don't know (or care) what's going on internally...Deano seems to know everything, you can get your updates from him, ha ha.

[NealIsGod]

Band biz, I don't discuss anything publicly to anyone, as well, even I don't know (or care) what's going on internally...Deano seems to know everything, you can get your updates from him, ha ha.

I think I'll stick with Andrew.

[Moon Beam]

Good afternoon Sir Soto.
I just love it when you stop by.
Can I get ya anything?

[Moon Beam]

Damn you Niggy, ladies before gentlemen.
You are to quick for me friend

[FormerJrnyFan]

I had 5 days rest between the last gig I did & meeting the band in DC...before that, my last rest was in Feb between gigs & studio work....'new octave', keep guessing

Deano, proven wrong...

Hee hee

[Rockindeano]

First off, I love the fuck out of Jeff. Always have. Never did I say Jeff sucked. I just said that in my opinion, Jeff doesn't work for the Journey sound.

As for the timing of jeff's intro into the band, I was wrong. Not to get too detailed here, but Jeff basically knew about 2-3 weeks prior to Augeri leaving, that he was coming in. Right Jeff?

As for the rest, I still don't get that. You have an incredibly strong voice. I wouldn't think you need the rest, however, would you say Jeff, the catalogue is fucking tough to sing, and you need to make adjustments? As for the "octave" line, maybe I was out of line with that. I was trying to say that it's basically impossible to emulate Perry. I will see first hand in Irvine, CA.
Care to invite me backstage, so we can all chat it up?

By the way Jeff, as far as your comment about me knowing everything, I did get the tape issue right.

PS- I am not proven wrong.

[Rockindeano]

Damn you Niggy, ladies before gentlemen.
You are to quick for me friend

You're a lady, Moondude?

[NealIsGod]

Care to invite me backstage, so we can all chat it up?

You better bring about 10 bodyguards with you if you go backstage at a Journey show...

[Moon Beam]

Damn you Niggy, ladies before gentlemen.
You are to quick for me friend

You're a lady, Moondude?

I'll kick your backside in a week Sir Pile, you better watch out!

[iLex]

Guys,

I think Hugo is the man for the job in Journey. Here's why:

1. He brings the Journey sound back to Journey
2. He already knows all of the material
3. He has demonstrated the ability to write better Journey music than Journey

If Journey wants to keep JSS great, retire Journey and call it what is it, SS. But if Journey wants to continue with any fan recognition or chance of being commercially successful again, they need Hugo. I don't like the fact that he looks like Perry so I say cut his hair, let him be his own man, but for fucks sakes let him sing so Journey can sound like Journey again!

L8r,

Aaron

Aaron,

Maybe is because I'm Dutch-speaking that I don't get the humor between the lines of your post but seriously...
... Hugo is a joke! After checking out his site I don't even wanna believe you're serious about him!
His Perry-imitations make him look like an idiot and his voice is very thin and often floating between the notes.
For a coverband I'd say OK it's fun, grab a beer and sing along but that's as far as it should go.

Journey = a world class band
JSS = a world class singer
... all is good, relax.

[JSS]

First off, I love the fuck out of Jeff. Always have. Never did I say Jeff sucked. I just said that in my opinion, Jeff doesn't work for the Journey sound.

As for the timing of jeff's intro into the band, I was wrong. Not to get too detailed here, but Jeff basically knew about 2-3 weeks prior to Augeri leaving, that he was coming in. Right Jeff?

As for the rest, I still don't get that. You have an incredibly strong voice. I wouldn't think you need the rest, however, would you say Jeff, the catalogue is fucking tough to sing, and you need to make adjustments? As for the "octave" line, maybe I was out of line with that. I was trying to say that it's basically impossible to emulate Perry. I will see first hand in Irvine, CA.
Care to invite me backstage, so we can all chat it up?

By the way Jeff, as far as your comment about me knowing everything, I did get the tape issue right.

PS- I am not proven wrong.

I'll get you in for sure man, don't know how welcome you'd be but I certainly am interested in meeting ya...we can discuss your questions in person, I'm not down with interviews/interrogations (not saying you're part of that) in a public forum. PM me, let's tawk! Thanks for the validation, next you gotta see it live, maybe you're idea will change, maybe I'll be hung out to dry, either way doesn't matter as much as if the rest out there & the band dig it

[NealIsGod]

Somebody has to film this.

[Just Mindy]

Somebody has to film this.