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Postby Monker » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:47 am

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Monker wrote:True, and if JSS is the new singer for the next album, they'll probably have an album out next year. But, I doubt it will be on a label. SS couldn't get a label, why would Journey?


Very good point here Monker. Journey won't get a label again. They won't have a Top 100 hit again either. Not even on the A/C charts. Anyone who thinks they will is dreaming.


Gotta disagree. If Journey could do a ballad ala "If This Is The End" I could see it charting on the A/C charts. If they really put 100% into an album I could see an A/C charting ballad or two.


You're full of shit. If Perry couldn't chart with "I Stand Alone", why would Jouorney chart with a relative unknown 'new' singer, ten years LATER. It ain't gonna happen. I don't care what the song is, who sings it, or even if they ARE on Sony.
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Postby Monker » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:48 am

A Fire Inside wrote:Hard to say, I've never been in a band. :)


Well, at least you know how Perry feels...You know, not feeling like part of a band.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:49 am

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heardonthestreet wrote:Andrew owes Monker an apology for referring to him as a troll. He is the last person that any Journey fan will call a troll.


No he doesn't. He has a frustrating job and I'm not making it any easier.


First post I'll agree with Monker on. But in light of his admission, I wills say that I am sorry for calling you a troll. Now, back to the arguing...
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:51 am

Monker wrote:You're full of shit. If Perry couldn't chart with "I Stand Alone", why would Jouorney chart with a relative unknown 'new' singer, ten years LATER. It ain't gonna happen. I don't care what the song is, who sings it, or even if they ARE on Sony.


I have to agree with Monker on this one. The only way they are going to get a song on more than just a handful of radio stations is IF they are on a big label and the label pushes the song. They aren't going to get behind ANY Journey song unless their style of music becomes popular again. I don't see that happening regardless of who is in the band.
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:51 am

Monker wrote:You're full of shit. If Perry couldn't chart with "I Stand Alone", why would Jouorney chart with a relative unknown 'new' singer, ten years LATER. It ain't gonna happen. I don't care what the song is, who sings it, or even if they ARE on Sony.


I'm not even 100% sure Perry could chart right now w/or w/out Journey & w/a totally kickass song. What do u think Monker?
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Postby Saint John » Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:56 am

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Monker wrote:True, and if JSS is the new singer for the next album, they'll probably have an album out next year. But, I doubt it will be on a label. SS couldn't get a label, why would Journey?


Very good point here Monker. Journey won't get a label again. They won't have a Top 100 hit again either. Not even on the A/C charts. Anyone who thinks they will is dreaming.


Gotta disagree. If Journey could do a ballad ala "If This Is The End" I could see it charting on the A/C charts. If they really put 100% into an album I could see an A/C charting ballad or two.


You're full of shit. If Perry couldn't chart with "I Stand Alone", why would Jouorney chart with a relative unknown 'new' singer, ten years LATER. It ain't gonna happen. I don't care what the song is, who sings it, or even if they ARE on Sony.


I was merely saying that I think it is a POSSIBILITY not a PROBABILITY. And was I Stand Alone even released?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:00 pm

a lot of the new music just stinks imo. }:C) the radio just plays a bunch of poop. i hardly listen anyway & if i do it's either klos, jack or kroq... or slow jams! most of the time it's cds... a lot of journey but most recently (thanks to jss) queen! }:C)
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:52 pm



Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...
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Postby Chakra » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:19 pm

Ditto :!:
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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:44 pm

Italia1986 wrote:Ditto :!:


I think everything that has is not perfect in Steve Perry's life could be put right so easily.

He just needs to meet me.

Together we could do wonderful things & I would make sure that he occasionally shares his unbelievable voice w/y'all too.
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Postby Chakra » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:38 pm

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Postby treetopovskaya » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:48 pm

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Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...


it's a sickness! i don't even watch tv anymore... why when you have youtube! hey! i think they owe me money! };C))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZ9Fuxzq-Q
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Postby treetopovskaya » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:52 pm

spinning `round... in a spell...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jubogiBaUhQ
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:16 am



Cool, thanks! I hadn't seen that one before.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:11 am

Monker wrote: He contributed to EVERY song from Escape thru ROR...Now he hardly contrubes at all.


What a collosal overstatement.
Re-adjust your bi-foggles and re-read those Generations liner notes.
He may not be as motivated anymore, but his name has been plastered over everything post-Perry Journey has done.
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Postby brywool » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:17 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:


Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...


it's a sickness! i don't even watch tv anymore... why when you have youtube! hey! i think they owe me money! };C))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZ9Fuxzq-Q


That's Awesome! I have a boot of this but haven't seen it. Very cool!
Weirdest period for Perry's hair though!
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:40 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:


Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...


it's a sickness! i don't even watch tv anymore... why when you have youtube! hey! i think they owe me money! };C))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZ9Fuxzq-Q


OMG I love this. The coat bit. When I saw him do this schtick I loved it so much. Especially when he said "there was a rumor u had lost ur voice".. ha ha. His hair for this tour, do u have any idea how much I want to run my fingers thru that? AAAAAAH. I was several rows back but it was sooooo shiny & glossy looking. OMG I totally love this man. I fell so in love w/him ALL over again during this tour. OMG. And anyone who blasts his voice during this time is insane. It was everything I wanted it to be and then some. I floated on air for weeks, maybe months after this tour. If I had known I'd never see him live again I would have died. aaaaaaah again. Well maybe not never. Maybe, just maybe, he'll be back (please Stevie...we really need u now). Ok someone will blast me for all my OMG & AHs in this post but I dont care. It was worth it. A few of the ladies will relate & feel the same way as me. TY for these memories.
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Postby TRAGChick » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:52 am

treetopovskaya wrote:spinning `round... in a spell...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jubogiBaUhQ


Oh my God. Thank you so much for finding this.

Time stopped for me...for 4:14.

I am sitting here, crying....never saw that before....Good Lord.... :shock:

I almost fell off my chair when he looked into the camera....didn't see THAT one coming...LOL :wink:

On the sustained "Chasing thunder"....he just leaves you HANGING....and then brings it back down....

...and once again, I couldn't breathe.
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:08 am

I have given up hope on Journey having a "hit" again, but then again I never thought they would draw a half million alone for a tour (last year) or that this tour would be selling out large amphitheatres everywhere....
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:02 am

Eric wrote:I have given up hope on Journey having a "hit" again, but then again I never thought they would draw a half million alone for a tour (last year) or that this tour would be selling out large amphitheatres everywhere....



I'm telling yah, it's all about the catalog.
These songs are timeless.
Neal could be replaced tommorow (heaven help us) and the touring revenue would still continue to ascend.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:23 am

JourneyRox wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:


Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...


it's a sickness! i don't even watch tv anymore... why when you have youtube! hey! i think they owe me money! };C))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZ9Fuxzq-Q



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Why is it so hard to understand that some people will always be PERRYONLY where Journey is concerned? I just can't help myself and I'm damn proud of it.

I heard that song in a Dept store last year and everyone around me stopped to listen and we all laughed.

OMG I love this. The coat bit. When I saw him do this schtick I loved it so much. Especially when he said "there was a rumor u had lost ur voice".. ha ha. His hair for this tour, do u have any idea how much I want to run my fingers thru that? AAAAAAH. I was several rows back but it was sooooo shiny & glossy looking. OMG I totally love this man. I fell so in love w/him ALL over again during this tour. OMG. And anyone who blasts his voice during this time is insane. It was everything I wanted it to be and then some. I floated on air for weeks, maybe months after this tour. If I had known I'd never see him live again I would have died. aaaaaaah again. Well maybe not never. Maybe, just maybe, he'll be back (please Stevie...we really need u now). Ok someone will blast me for all my OMG & AHs in this post but I dont care. It was worth it. A few of the ladies will relate & feel the same way as me. TY for these memories.
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Postby PROPERRY » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:03 am

heardonthestreet wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:


Damn girl u are the YouTube Queen.

I could watch this video all nite. Man, I love Steve Perry. There has never ever ever been a voice like that before & I doubt there ever will be again. It's just incredible, spine-tingling, goose bump forming & well I could go on...


it's a sickness! i don't even watch tv anymore... why when you have youtube! hey! i think they owe me money! };C))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZ9Fuxzq-Q



..........................................

Why is it so hard to understand that some people will always be PERRYONLY where Journey is concerned? I just can't help myself and I'm damn proud of it.

I heard that song in a Dept store last year and everyone around me stopped to listen and we all laughed.

OMG I love this. The coat bit. When I saw him do this schtick I loved it so much. Especially when he said "there was a rumor u had lost ur voice".. ha ha. His hair for this tour, do u have any idea how much I want to run my fingers thru that? AAAAAAH. I was several rows back but it was sooooo shiny & glossy looking. OMG I totally love this man. I fell so in love w/him ALL over again during this tour. OMG. And anyone who blasts his voice during this time is insane. It was everything I wanted it to be and then some. I floated on air for weeks, maybe months after this tour. If I had known I'd never see him live again I would have died. aaaaaaah again. Well maybe not never. Maybe, just maybe, he'll be back (please Stevie...we really need u now). Ok someone will blast me for all my OMG & AHs in this post but I dont care. It was worth it. A few of the ladies will relate & feel the same way as me. TY for these memories.





JourneyRox,

WOW, this is my first time seeing this one! And OH YEA, I CAN relate & feel the same way , and I wasn't even there, :lol:. It sure would have been A LOT of FUN to see that show! WOOOOOO Perry is an outstanding singer & amazing performer, NOBODY does it like HE CAN! :D

And Yea HOTS , I agree, I'm proud to be a PERRYONLY FAN! :D

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HUGO IS THE ANSWER

Postby mack » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:58 pm

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:58 pm

brywool wrote:That's Awesome! I have a boot of this but haven't seen it. Very cool!
Weirdest period for Perry's hair though!


Oh no Bry the hair was to die for during FLOTSM tour. Down to his glorious butt.
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Postby Chakra » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:38 am

Sound like JSS is really making his mark?!?! Almost 10 years later and all roads still lead to Perry. Neal and Jon should have left Journey ALONE and moved forward with something else. JOURNEY will always be indentified with SP, like it or not. Neal can stick his head in the sand 'til hell freezes over and the answer will still be the same. Even the Eagles sucked up their pride and egos and realized they had lightening in a bottle together, not apart.

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Journey and Def Leppard Still Rockin
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By BRANDON GRIGGS
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Posted: 2:34 AM- WEST VALLEY CITY -- It felt like the '80s again Wednesday night at the Usana Amphitheatre, where Journey and Def Leppard evoked that big-hair and spandex era with almost three hours of bombastic ballads and deafening power chords.
But it's a fair guess that when Def Leppard played their monster hit "Photograph" back in 1983, fans weren't holding up cell-phone cameras to snap pictures of the band.
Technically, Journey and Def Leppard are billed as co-headliners of their joint 2006 tour. But there was no question Wednesday about who was the bigger and better live act: If it had been a battle of the bands, the British pop-glam-metal rockers would have blown Journey off the stage.
Nearly two decades after their commercial peak, Def Leppard still pack an impressive energy for a bunch of blokes in their forties. The band sounded focused and well rehearsed while managing to make their choreographed ed 80-minute set feel loose and playful.
Although Def Leppard just released "Yeah!," a new album of covers of '70s power pop, they played only two songs from it: Badfinger's "No Matter What" and a theatrical version of David Essex's "Rock On." Instead, the band devoted the majority of its show to 1983's "Pyromania" and 1987's "Hysteria," two massively popular albums from its MTV heyday.
Singer Joe Elliott and bassist Rick Savage dashed about the stage with abandon while guitarists Phil Collen and Vivian Campbell traded fiery solos and one-armed drummer Rick Allen maintained a furious groove. Elliott chatted little between songs, leaving more time for the band to crank out one radio hit after another: "Foolin'," "Rocket" and a rousing "Rock of Ages" that had the sold-out crowd pumping its fists.
By the encores, everyone knew what was coming: power ballad "Love Bites" and the inescapable stomp-along, "Pour Some Sugar On Me." Journey also filled its set with faithful renditions of its biggest hits, but something was missing. Because famous ex-frontman Steve Perry is long gone, the lead-vocal duties were split between newcomer Jeff Scott Soto on rockers like "Don't Stop Believin'" and drummer Deen Castronovo, who handled ballads like "Open Arms" and "Faithfully." While both singers did credible impressions of Perry's distinctive tenor, Soto's incessant mugging soon grew tiresome. Longtime guitarist Neal Schon redeemed some songs with soaring solos (and opened the evening with a Hendrix-like solo rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner").
But other tunes were overwhelmed by excessive arrangements and a sense that the band - what's left of it - is clinging to fading glories that are a quarter-century old. In another five years, we may see Journey at the state fair.
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Postby jrNY » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 am

That is really sad. I'm almost afraid to read any of the real reviews (unlike the manufactured ones at BT).

I know most of the critics have never really given Journey good reviews but I haven't seen anything really positive this tour. Am I just missing the good ones?
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Postby ArnelRox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 am

Italia1986 wrote:While both singers did credible impressions of Perry's distinctive tenor, Soto's incessant mugging soon grew tiresome. Longtime guitarist Neal Schon redeemed some songs with soaring solos (and opened the evening with a Hendrix-like solo rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner").
But other tunes were overwhelmed by excessive arrangements and a sense that the band - what's left of it - is clinging to fading glories that are a quarter-century old. In another five years, we may see Journey at the state fair.


Damn. Will the critics ever be fair to Journey?

"Longtime guitarist" Um try only original member who has always been w/the band. This shows the reviewer is not Journey-savvy IMHO.

JSS's incessant mugging? WTF is that supposed to mean? Seriously I need a translation? "Mugging"?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:00 am

'Nother writer w/ an Axe to grind. Some redneck hick frustrated reporter in Scranton accused Augeri of "mugging" at Montage. Augeri does a lot of things on stage, and mugging's not one of them. Humble as can be.
And if JSS HADN'T mugged? This writer would've said JSS was "wooden" on stage.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:03 am

JourneyRox wrote:... JSS's incessant mugging? WTF is that supposed to mean? Seriously I need a translation? "Mugging"?


I'm with you, JR - mugging? WTF?
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