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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:17 am

JourneyRox wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No I'm not.
Since when's he ever popped in there to say "thanks for the prayers"? His not doing so now is not an indication of him quaking and cowering in shame on the run from torch-wielding tapegaters.


That's the point. He hasn't popped in to say TY for the prayers. But his fans are daily bumping a message where he popped in to say TY for the birthday wishes: http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/023786.html

It's unbelievably rude he can't pop in to say TY for the prayers, gifts, etc. Yes, he must be wild on the run.


1 time he popped in out of 400 threads dedicated to him. Yep there's a trend. He didn't pop in from his vacation to say TY. he's hiding something..... FIRE THE BLOG UP!!! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY CANNOT BE ALLLOWED TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:24 am

It just seems weird because his wife has even stopped posting altogether and I'm pretty sure that. over the last 8 years of touring and visiting the site, she has become pretty good friends w/ a few of the Bt'ers. She was always pretty classy herself, just like Deen's family that post, and I kinda thought maybe at least she would post a TY or something on Steve's behalf. I have no say on who sings for Journey, I'll buy anything new they put out, but I just hope the man's health is good.
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Postby Liz22562 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:55 am

No slam against anyone posting here, I understand your meaning, but I guess I look at it like SA's got a life - why should he sit at home wondering who posted what about him on a message board, here, there or any where else for that matter.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:14 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:It just seems weird because his wife has even stopped posting altogether and I'm pretty sure that. over the last 8 years of touring and visiting the site, she has become pretty good friends w/ a few of the Bt'ers. She was always pretty classy herself, just like Deen's family that post, and I kinda thought maybe at least she would post a TY or something on Steve's behalf. I have no say on who sings for Journey, I'll buy anything new they put out, but I just hope the man's health is good.


She also woudn't acknowledge fans well-wishes when Augeri was purportedly stricken with a bout of pneumonia.
Her and Steve used to be alot more vocal.
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Postby knox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:31 am

Liz22562 wrote:No slam against anyone posting here, I understand your meaning, but I guess I look at it like SA's got a life - why should he sit at home wondering who posted what about him on a message board, here, there or any where else for that matter.


Anyone is fooling themselves if they think Steve is not checking up on things both here and at BT. It takes a few seconds to click on the website. Wouldn't YOU want to know what's being said about you?
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Postby A Fire Inside » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:41 am

knox wrote:Wouldn't YOU want to know what's being said about you?

Not if it were the likes of Journey fans. :lol:
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Postby Chakra » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:49 am

No Problem!

Well, since I've "outed" myself.....


Sorry if I missed something?! "Outed" yourself about what?
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Postby Liz22562 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:58 am

I could care less what anyone says about me. I stopped worrying about that kind of 'stuff' years ago.

Most celebrities have persona's - and a lot of times those persona's are dictated by what the media chooses to write. Let a celeb snub a reporter and watch the frenzy. I don't know any personal information about the members of Journey other than what I read or hear (and I believe very little of what I read). I'd be willing to bet they all get a good chuckle if and when they read anything about themselves.

There is always going to be some type of controversy with people in the biz. Just depends on what a person chooses to believe or not to believe. Probably too simple in my eyes, but I prefer to keep it that way. Perhaps I am 'too old' to get all worked up about what someone that doesn't know me says.

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Postby L~L~L » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:59 am

Liz22562 wrote:No slam against anyone posting here, I understand your meaning, but I guess I look at it like SA's got a life - why should he sit at home wondering who posted what about him on a message board, here, there or any where else for that matter.



Well it didn't take JSS long to come in to the forum to see what was being said about him joining the band,speak his mind and he has a life as we all do too.

So why wouldn't Agueri do the same?
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Postby A Fire Inside » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:09 am

Italia1986 wrote:Sorry if I missed something?! "Outed" yourself about what?

About being a lurker...
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Postby A Fire Inside » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:11 am

lovelylourdes wrote:Well it didn't take JSS long to come in to the forum to see what was being said about him joining the band,speak his mind and he has a life as we all do too.

So why wouldn't Agueri do the same?

AUGERI is not JSS.

JSS is not Augeri.

They don't have to do the same things. It's pretty obvious Augeri is not as tech-inclined as JSS anyway.
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Postby Liz22562 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:17 am

Be more than happy to play this game. :D

Why should Steve Augeri pop in and answer? It doesn't matter to me that he hasn't posted anything on here. This is a message board, not a last will and testament. It is wonderful that JSS posts on here....it is what he chooses to do. It doesn't make him any better than anyone else in the band.

Since I've been a long time lurker and off and on poster to this particular board, I have not yet once seen Neal Schon, Jon Cain, Ross Valory, Steve Perry, or Deen Castronova post on here. Shall we give them a hard time because they haven't answered any of the fans concerns, feelings, bashings, etc.? Perhaps it is a personal thing to individual fans?
Perhaps it is just a message board for fans to debate, discuss, and bring a little laughter once in awhile.

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Postby knox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:11 am

We will agree to disagree on this point.

I STILL think Augeri is watching the boards to see what the "buzz is about".


If he is not working, what else does he have to do :lol: ?
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Postby yulog » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:25 am

A full medical update c'mon people they said he had a throat infection do you know what that equates to if he went to an emergency room ---he would be seen last after the person who has Diarrhea. They say hes at home not Austria I wrote this initial statement because all they do when someone asks about Steve A is block and deflect --stop asking about him but then Deen gets sick and someone asks about him and JSS came on immeadiatly and let everyone know what happen and that he was okay(this is how a group of friends should be i commend JSS for doing that)(also its okay to tell you about Deen when hes sick but leave Steve be) My point was if they say that Steve is a part of the band why is he so distant from the site why is everything so hush hush-stop asking about him alot of the fans are frustrated with that over there and it sure doesnt help what everyone is thinking i personally dont like to make my judgement quickly but this kind of stuff has me starting to lean in the more obvious direction.I dont expect to get a good answer from BT because CJ argued with so many of us about the vid on the front page where Augeri is singing and Soto is shown she said almost the same thing at that time its SOTO singing so stop asking about it
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Postby FormerJrnyFan4Life » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:45 am

yulog wrote:A full medical update c'mon people they said he had a throat infection do you know what that equates to if he went to an emergency room ---he would be seen last after the person who has Diarrhea. They say hes at home not Austria I wrote this initial statement because all they do when someone asks about Steve A is block and deflect --stop asking about him but then Deen gets sick and someone asks about him and JSS came on immeadiatly and let everyone know what happen and that he was okay(this is how a group of friends should be i commend JSS for doing that)(also its okay to tell you about Deen when hes sick but leave Steve be) My point was if they say that Steve is a part of the band why is he so distant from the site why is everything so hush hush-stop asking about him alot of the fans are frustrated with that over there and it sure doesnt help what everyone is thinking i personally dont like to make my judgement quickly but this kind of stuff has me starting to lean in the more obvious direction.I dont expect to get a good answer from BT because CJ argued with so many of us about the vid on the front page where Augeri is singing and Soto is shown she said almost the same thing at that time its SOTO singing so stop asking about it



Yeah but CJ finally admitted she was wrong on the video - took some time though. I swear she's power mad, if you aren't pro-Journey on that site WHAM the post gets deleted. I was reading a post before where Enigma had stated he'd posted his thoughts on Generations, the post was locked and deleted and he received an e-mail from the mods asking him to stop bad-mouthing anything the band puts out. I mean WTF is with that?
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:48 am

No negativity is allowed about what the band puts out ! Talk about seeing the band with rose colored glasses ! :roll: Damn, if I was a bandmember, I would want to know how my fans feel about an album I put out. :D
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Postby FormerJrnyFan4Life » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:52 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:No negativity is allowed about what the band puts out ! Talk about seeing the band with rose colored glasses ! :roll: Damn, if I was a bandmember, I would want to know how my fans feel about an album I put out. :D


Exactly, I only like 2 songs off Generations and a handful from Arrival and I didn't bother with Red13. But then again prior to Arrvial's release didn't the fans voice their concerns after it was leaked and they said it didn't rock enough? And didn't the band listen? 5/6 years later and you can't say anything bad about an album? :roll:
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Postby yulog » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:58 am

good point
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Postby jrnysc » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:19 am

yulog wrote:A full medical update c'mon people they said he had a throat infection do you know what that equates to if he went to an emergency room ---he would be seen last after the person who has Diarrhea. They say hes at home not Austria I wrote this initial statement because all they do when someone asks about Steve A is block and deflect --stop asking about him but then Deen gets sick and someone asks about him and JSS came on immeadiatly and let everyone know what happen and that he was okay(this is how a group of friends should be i commend JSS for doing that)(also its okay to tell you about Deen when hes sick but leave Steve be) My point was if they say that Steve is a part of the band why is he so distant from the site why is everything so hush hush-stop asking about him alot of the fans are frustrated with that over there and it sure doesnt help what everyone is thinking i personally dont like to make my judgement quickly but this kind of stuff has me starting to lean in the more obvious direction.I dont expect to get a good answer from BT because CJ argued with so many of us about the vid on the front page where Augeri is singing and Soto is shown she said almost the same thing at that time its SOTO singing so stop asking about it


I think you are seeing the writing on the wall my friend. If this is a throat infection, it is the most hellish one of all time!! That is total bullshit. I can almost assure you of that. You are correct. Throat infections equal antibiotics. Simple as that. Unless you have an autoimmune disorder that is so bad your body simply cannot recover. And please, I am not trying to start any more rumors here, but for them to simply say he has a chronic throat infection is laughable at best to me. Due to HIPPA laws and other things, I understand they can only say so much. But a better explanation could have been given.
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Postby knox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:20 am

My mother died last month, my father in '93, and it didn't take NEARLY as long to get over either one of those as it seems to be taking Augeri to recover from being booted out of Journey :?
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Postby jrnysc » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:42 am

knox wrote:My mother died last month, my father in '93, and it didn't take NEARLY as long to get over either one of those as it seems to be taking Augeri to recover from being booted out of Journey :?


Yep. I think your on to something there.
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Postby EightyRock » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:43 am

Well, here's the thing...they don't HAVE to say anything else. The band already "addressed" the problem and JSS is their answer. Some people might want more, but I doubt they will get anything else. Maybe a generic statement by one of them when the tour ends, but I wouldn't count on it. Why would they dredge this up again when Augeri is gone and they are trying to move on? They probably figure all fans are entitled to know is that Augeri has vocal problems (who can deny that?) and in order for them to continue, they need another front man. Uh...what didn't work for them? Right, a try at a Perry sound-a-like? Hell no. They are going a different route this time.n They finally got it that you don't replace a talent like Perry with a try for a duplicate. If they did that again, they'd all be certifiable. We know Neal ain't always the sharpest tool in the shed (thanks, Herbie), but even Neal figured this one out, finally. Get somebody with a big voice, talent, respect your past legacy, quit talking shit about Perry and pissing off fans, disregard all the crap on that official website about Augeri and just PLAY. It is the only way to survive. If you're waiting for some definitive statement from the band or Augeri....get over it and move on. They don't owe you that. It's a rock band and you take it too personally. At least they took care of the problem and went LIVE now. Be greatful for that before they destroyed their reputation and any sense of pride you felt as a fan.
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Postby Citygirl » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:49 am

The reason there's been no more said about the throat infection is cos it's bollocks. They've just come out with a load of shite and expected everyone to believe it...

I don't think we'll ever know the real story. Might as well just give up on it now :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:11 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Some don't get it, but as far as the band/Augeri is concerened they HAVE addressed it. They don't have to address it within the context of a blog or tapegate.


Ya, they addressed it alright...They fired his slimy ass. Yet you still say nothing devious happened. Dude, the train is leaving the station, and you are stuck in the john...Pull your head out of your ass and see the light for fucks sake.
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Postby EightyRock » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:20 am

Deano says; "they fired his slimy ass"

As much as I blame Augeri for holding that mic and standing onstage gig after gig, without his voice going out to the crowd....it took ALL their "slimey asses" to agree to stand on stage with him while he did it. Are you saying THEY didn't know it was being done? I'm betting it was Cain's idea!
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:03 am

EightyRock wrote: I'm betting it was Cain's idea!


No.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:13 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
EightyRock wrote: I'm betting it was Cain's idea!


No.


Seems to me that it would have to be a management idea. Pure speculation, but that's what they're paid for. To make decisions. In Journey's case, very shitty ones.
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Postby Glenn » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:07 am

Liz22562 wrote:No slam against anyone posting here, I understand your meaning, but I guess I look at it like SA's got a life - why should he sit at home wondering who posted what about him on a message board, here, there or any where else for that matter.


The guy has people that worship him over there....Sent him cards, gifts, well wishes, ect.....

ONE post from him saying thank you would do.


Not slamming you, but dontcha think it's a little weird?
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Postby Monker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:16 am

EightyRock wrote:Deano says; "they fired his slimy ass"

As much as I blame Augeri for holding that mic and standing onstage gig after gig, without his voice going out to the crowd....it took ALL their "slimey asses" to agree to stand on stage with him while he did it. Are you saying THEY didn't know it was being done? I'm betting it was Cain's idea!


Please....IF it actually happened, it was either Augeri's idea or Kevin Elson's. But, you're right, the BAND had to know about it...and they agreed to go on anyway. ANY, or ALL of them could have refused to perform and forced the issue. *IF* it happened - it's ALL of their faults, equaly.
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Postby Monker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:19 am

knox wrote:My mother died last month, my father in '93, and it didn't take NEARLY as long to get over either one of those as it seems to be taking Augeri to recover from being booted out of Journey :?


That's probably because he hasn't officaly been 'booted'. Did you 'get over' your mother after a few months of her being on life-support, or did you wait until she was actually dead?
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