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Postby TRAGChick » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:44 am

Oh yeah...forgot to mention:

The Tenor Vocal Range is THE MOST DIFFICULT RANGE TO MASTER....

...and he makes it look as easy as breathing.
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Postby RPM » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:09 am

I think steve is a VERY deep person. He is not just a singer, he is an ARTIST, his emotion
and passion are wore on his sleeve for all to see when he performs, to read when he writes,
to hear when he sings. Listen to some of these early boots, he didnt just hit notes from
a recording , he would take them higher, and you could tell it was effortless, he was one of
a kind , just an amazing talent with extreme control and range, its no wonder women loved
him and men admired him.........
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Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:25 am

It's just a helpless feeling that you get when you hear his voice and it's more intense if you're watching his face at the same time. Never has the word "Soul" had more meaning, especially if you can relate to the lyrics of the song.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:29 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri would be Phil Niekro or Don Sutton....not the greatest talent, but honed his craft into hall of fame "stuff" with guts and work.


You just walked into a hurricane my friend.

Phil Niekro was a knuckleballer who lived off loading the ball up with FOREIGN MATTER; ie, vaseline, nail files, KY Jelly, you name it. He was a cheater, plain and simple.

Nice comparison. I am amazed you even went there.
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Postby chickpea » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:27 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Can't describe it, either. Praps Yak and NoMoreTails can quantify that appeal more eloquently?

:?:


13, hate to let you down but I can't come up with a thing, not even a smart remark. I can't account for the tastes of some women...I just don't get it at all, guess I'd have to be a woman to understand it. But my wife doesn't think Perry's sexy and I'm wondering if she's the only hardcore Journey female fan that doesn't think so. I always thought his stage presence was, well goofy. I can't believe I even read this thread to find your question.
But since I did, I'm wondering whether the ladies here generally like more manly men, or if Perry is indicative of their usual taste in men.


Well speaking solely for myself, my husband and Steve Perry have absolutely zilch in common physically. My dh is tall (probably close to a foot taller than SP) and has super short hair. But yet I find both of them sexy, just in different ways.

I am oddly attracted to men who aren't the standard "pretty boy" types like SP, Kevin Spacey, Joaquin Phoenix, Tommy Lee (blech did I just say that?). :roll:

I find SP attractive physically but I also love his voice. When I first heard him sing, I had no clue what he looked like or even who it was that was singing. I just knew I had to find out who it was and buy whatever music I could find.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:34 am

tragchk wrote:PS ~ If you want me to, um, SUBJECT you to what I'm talkin' about - let me know....


I'm game to be "subjected".

Man, I love talking and reading about all this vocal crap.
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Postby TRAGChick » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:30 pm

conversationpc wrote:
tragchk wrote:PS ~ If you want me to, um, SUBJECT you to what I'm talkin' about - let me know....


I'm game to be "subjected".

Man, I love talking and reading about all this vocal crap.


Well alright then, bruthah.... 8)

OK...I'm in the process of uploading this thing right now...from the "Elijah" Performance that I was a part of....you will be hearing one of the featured Soprano Soloists.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to shut her up....I thought I had it "spliced" to 30 seconds, but the thing is uploading all 5 minutes....

Believe you me...you won't be offending me if you shut it down after TEN seconds....

Still waiting....
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Postby knox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:45 pm

You know, I have never been able to to even understand why I am so "attracted" to Perry. I have been accused of being "gay" for him (LOL) - heck, maybe there is something that I don't know about myself - just kidding!!!!

However.... There is something about that 81 concert dvd. That long black hair, the black tailed jacket, the leopard shirt, the jeans, the sneakers. I know I keep saying it, but that might as well have been a SuperHero costume. That was the EPITOMY (or is it epitamy?) of Steve Perry.

Oh yeah, he could sing too :wink: .

Perry had IT. I don't know what it was, but it was centered around that voice of his. Think about when he was in high school and he realized what he could do with those vocal cords. The man knew he had it. Heck, Alien Project would have probably done as well as Journey - judging by "If You Need Me, Call Me" - had Herbie taken the reigns.

Perry was born to be a star, and he confidently (over-confidently at times) loved every minute of that fame.



Until he burned out, that is.
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Postby TRAGChick » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:50 pm

...and here it is....Good God brace yourselves...feel free to shut her up WHENEVER.... :x

http://www.mailbigfile.com/47f82010e056 ... tFiles.php
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:51 pm

tragchk wrote:...and here it is....Good God brace yourselves...feel free to shut her up WHENEVER.... :x

http://www.mailbigfile.com/47f82010e056 ... tFiles.php


It's on the way down...
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:01 pm

tragchk wrote:...and here it is....Good God brace yourselves...feel free to shut her up WHENEVER.... :x

http://www.mailbigfile.com/47f82010e056 ... tFiles.php


OK...I listened to the whole thing.

I've heard worse but if I were to play an example to someone of what I hate about opera, THAT would be it.

Actually, when the singing started, my cat came out from under the desk with his eyes wide open and his ears perked up. It was like "What the heck is THAT and where is it coming from???"

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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:35 pm

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
tragchk wrote:....Steve's appeal reaches across time....swear to God....


You are probably right. Even though I am 36, I love alot of the new music out there (I get bored w/ music quick, always looking for something new). Its just for some reason at the age of 10, Journey's music trapped me while all my freinds were raving about Zepp, the Doors, joining the KISS Army... Those little fuckers even made fun of me!!!

Who's the pansy now, you little terds??? At least my band is still Rocking!

... I'm sure the KISS Army will be piping up shortly :)


uhh say what?? :D 8) uhh very well said,, even paul stanley goes to journey concerts!!
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:51 pm

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
tragchk wrote:....Steve's appeal reaches across time....swear to God....


You are probably right. Even though I am 36, I love alot of the new music out there (I get bored w/ music quick, always looking for something new). Its just for some reason at the age of 10, Journey's music trapped me while all my freinds were raving about Zepp, the Doors, joining the KISS Army... Those little fuckers even made fun of me!!!

Who's the pansy now, you little terds??? At least my band is still Rocking!

... I'm sure the KISS Army will be piping up shortly :)


uhh say what?? :D 8) uhh very well said,, even paul stanley goes to journey concerts!!
C'mon, does he really?
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:53 pm

journeygal wrote:
LarryFromNextDoor wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
tragchk wrote:....Steve's appeal reaches across time....swear to God....


You are probably right. Even though I am 36, I love alot of the new music out there (I get bored w/ music quick, always looking for something new). Its just for some reason at the age of 10, Journey's music trapped me while all my freinds were raving about Zepp, the Doors, joining the KISS Army... Those little fuckers even made fun of me!!!

Who's the pansy now, you little terds??? At least my band is still Rocking!

... I'm sure the KISS Army will be piping up shortly :)


uhh say what?? :D 8) uhh very well said,, even paul stanley goes to journey concerts!!
C'mon, does he really?


not sure where i heard, it was after the "star" award ceremony,, paul went to the show journey performed,, that rocks
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Postby yak » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:20 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Can't describe it, either. Praps Yak and NoMoreTails can quantify that appeal more eloquently?

:?:




Arrogance (I Am a Rock Star)

Ignorance (Self explanatory)

Hip stance (had to be something BIG to become a runaway again. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that)

I Love Me-ance (everything revolves around Moi)

Control freakish (aka a take charge kind of guy, if you're spinning)

Says Image to young children, and in their eyes his image is tarnished forever

I'm wondering whether the ladies here generally like more manly men, or if Perry is indicative of their usual taste in men.


Perry seems to be indicative of their usual taste in men, but I'd love to know what their husbands think. Maybe they're wondering about the lack of attention. Just consider the following two comments:




His movement's...at time's just that subtle sway of his hip's, back and forth...I was lucky enough to be there, in front of the stage...Steve singing...hip's gently swaying....he turned....our eye's meet...he held them to me....I felt our spirit's connect....a brief moment in time...never to be forgotten...........whew it's getting hot in here!!!!


(Does this one write romance novels for a living?) Image




Steve.....he's like the brother you would want, the loveryou would want and the father you would want .....he's such a sweet man who is capable of everything.....building houses, loves animals, smart, talented, overachiever, respected by millions, oh and.....very very very rich $$$$$$ Steve, I love you...............




Respected by millions? :roll:

Good Grief! Get the girl some sandalwood and musk, and be quick about it





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You'd think some here have better things to do, instead of fantasizing about a 57 year old man they're never going to meet.
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Postby Blueskies » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:58 pm

Cut it some slack..YAK...read the title of the thread....the responses are what's called for here!!!.....I don't ramble on about Perry...this was a one take deal!...YOU on the other hand, seem to only want to come in and slam anyone saying anything positive about Perry....did he shit in your cornflake's or what??....seem's you been at this for year's!!!...that is really sad!!!...one more thing...you are a female!!!! get over it!!!! :evil:
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Postby Voyager » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:17 pm

It's the emotion that Perry conveyed through his music that touched people. It was like the magic of Elvis - but with a better voice and band. Perry had charisma galore. His music grips your heart and keeps you glued to the song. My wife and I are both avid Journey/Perry fans. We've seen Augeri a few times, but there is no substitute for Steve Perry. He was one of a kind. They broke the mold afterwards.

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Postby Voyager » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:20 pm

yak wrote:Arrogance (I Am a Rock Star)

Ignorance (Self explanatory)

Hip stance (had to be something BIG to become a runaway again. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that)

I Love Me-ance (everything revolves around Moi)

Control freakish (aka a take charge kind of guy, if you're spinning)

Says Image to young children, and in their eyes his image is tarnished forever

Wow... were you abused by someone who looked like Steve Perry?

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Postby A Fire Inside » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:24 pm

thevoicelover wrote:did he shit in your cornflake's or what??....

Now I'm visualizing Steve Perry taking a dump into Yak's cereal bowl while he sits there astonished.

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Postby SteveForever » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:27 pm

Yak is female?
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Postby Voyager » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:39 pm

steveforever wrote:Yak is female?

Look at their avatar.

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Postby ArnelRox » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:24 pm

Oh I love almost all of this thread & I thank all those who put heartfelt words out there. Nice to see some people post who don't post much. To those who tried to ruin my thread, get a life. The thread is about what Perry made people feel like. TVL was merely expressing that & it was amazing what she said.

Deano, u kept it cool here so far, TY. Please don't go there. This is kinda precious. (Oh man, I sound like a BTer here! Sorry).

I have to respond to a few people who touched me w/this (damn did I have too much wine tonite. I'm getting sappy.)

Nora, I think ur cool as hell but I don't do opera, forgive me, ok? But I love the skater comparison. U got it right there. Ur husband looks like Perry? I need better pix of him :) Can't tell much from that drum pic in ur sig. Lucky girl.
TVL u got me excited. WOW. Amazing. U got it ALL right there. WOW again. U might want to right romance novels actually if u could think of Perry & write the love scenes like this. Damn girl!
Knox how cool for a guy to be so honest. Really appreciate that.
Chickpea apart from Tommy Lee I like the other men too. I just like men who are well-unique. I don't like pretty in men.
NoMoreTails NO. I go for very tall men like 6'1" or over and usually 6'2" 6'3" or 6'4" but I've dated at guy who was 6'5". I'm short so that's weird. I don't feel attracted to guys based on looks. I don't like feminine men. I never saw Perry as feminine. I don't get why people say that. He was all man to me. He was shorter than I like and slight but still manly. Augeri was more girly to me than Perry. JSS is even more manly. I find him very attractive too.
RPM thank u. Short & sweet u said it.
Jabber yep a goofy dance is sexy. Perry did it & well. The Boss did it. Heck isn't that what won AI for Taylor Hicks. Don't get me started. That guy looked spastic. But he danced anyway. People liked it. Who needs a wiggle when u have confidence. Heart & soul.
Kathy yes. U never forget Perry.
Eighty u got it too. And I agree JSS has a good dose of it.
HOTS YES. Soul. They compare him to Sam Cooke. I think he's better.
Voyager yes Elvis. He wasn't like Elvis. But they had something along the same lines. Just a magnetism. I met someone who met fat Elvis & they said they would never forget him. Even fat he had sex appeal. Not just sex appeal but "something" u can't put ur finger on.

Great thread. U guys are the best! TYVM for all of this. Keep it going.
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Postby Matthew » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:15 pm

yak wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Can't describe it, either. Praps Yak and NoMoreTails can quantify that appeal more eloquently?

:?:




Arrogance (I Am a Rock Star)

Ignorance (Self explanatory)

Hip stance (had to be something BIG to become a runaway again. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that)

I Love Me-ance (everything revolves around Moi)

Control freakish (aka a take charge kind of guy, if you're spinning)

Says Image to young children, and in their eyes his image is tarnished forever

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A rock star who is arrogant, self-centred and controlling? :shock: I've never heard of such a thing.....
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Postby Lilla_Forever » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:33 pm

I think many of the descriptions here are right on. He is the one of the most soulful intense singers ever, a hard rock crooner. And as far as the physique goes, its the no-so-tall, dark handsome stranger thing :wink: I remember when I first saw and heard him, when I was very young. It was in the video to We are the World. I remember thinking "Wow, what a good looking Native American and jeehez can he sing!". Many years passed before I heard him again in Journey (Wheel in the Sky was the first Journey song I heard), but I never forgot him. He just has it.
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Postby Blueskies » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:09 am

steveforever wrote:Yak is female?
yes...it take's one to know one...ya know? When I 1st started here, she attacked me so I read through some of her past post's to see where she was coming from. She's been at this a long time it seem's! Female come's out in the writing! Just a freak pretending to be a man for whatever reason. 95% of the time she only post's after something positive is said about Perry, usually right after the so- called "loon"s"! She's a loon stalker! :roll:
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Postby chickpea » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:14 am

Perry seems to be indicative of their usual taste in men, but I'd love to know what their husbands think. Maybe they're wondering about the lack of attention.


He is not indicative of my usual taste. Usually I prefer very tall men. And my husband doesn't really think anything of it, I'm sure. It's not like I forgo having sex with my husband in order to listen to SP sing. :roll:
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Postby Blueskies » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:15 am

Thank you for the nice review Journeyrox! Don't know if I could write a whole book, though! Can't even type for shit! :lol:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:23 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri would be Phil Niekro or Don Sutton....not the greatest talent, but honed his craft into hall of fame "stuff" with guts and work.


You just walked into a hurricane my friend.

Phil Niekro was a knuckleballer who lived off loading the ball up with FOREIGN MATTER; ie, vaseline, nail files, KY Jelly, you name it. He was a cheater, plain and simple.

Nice comparison. I am amazed you even went there.


Again, never proved you flippin fool. Joe Niekro had the emory board not Phil. Phil had the dancer and didn't need to cheat.
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Postby Marabelle » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:58 am

I understand most of what Yak is saying with regard to others' admiration of Steve Perry. Espee himself has stated he has felt uneasy with the idolization of him; with the undying infatuation and "drooling" over him. I think he is very uncomfortable with it. I believe he wonders how so many women have found so much to love about him when he realizes he has been a jerk, arogant prick, selfish lover, cruel, etc. People love the voice; not necessarily loving or being "in love" with this man they do not know. I think he feels that when people look at him and admire what they see and hear; they forget that there is also a person there behind the voice and that this stage persona is not necessarily him. When you scratch below the surface; you'd find just a man with most attributes he can share with most of the male population. He's who he is and I think he'd like not to be on a pedestal but just be a guy who can sing with the angels and has the vices and characteristics of the guy next door.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:33 am

tragchk wrote:Oh yeah...forgot to mention:

The Tenor Vocal Range is THE MOST DIFFICULT RANGE TO MASTER....

...and he makes it look as easy as breathing.


Why is the tenor the hardest to master?
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