This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

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Postby fred_journeyman » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:34 am

Crazie Scarab wrote:
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Monker wrote:And, that is exactly what is going to happen.


I would tend to agree, though I wouldn't mind if they proved me wrong.


Ok.. if you guys are right & Journey takes and bails out within one year, I'll say you were right.

If not, I hope you'll both be big enough to say you were wrong.

Now.. let's leave it to time... Deal?

08/23/06


I won't mind saying I was wrong. Does that mean we can't talk about anymore? :cry: Where's the fun in THAT? :D
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Rock'nCheyanna » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:11 am

Rockn'deano wrote:With a New singer, a singer who can flatout bring it, I will now say this....

Journey CAN make waves now..They have a singer who can sing, has balls, and trust me folks, can make the Journey name proud again. I am sold on this outfit. I am going to war for Journey now.

I have seen the fucking light. I was wrong a month ago. Jeff Fucking Soto can flatout, fucking sing, like I have never heard before with the exception of course of Steve Perry, the best ever, and trust me, they are not far apart........

Jeff is the shit, Neal is the shit, if Friga would stop shaving his balls, could be the shit too.........Of course, Deen is the shit already and Ross, well, who cares about Ross..I can play fucking bass.... :lol:

I am offering my services....I will get shit done for these fuckers. They made a mistake, fucked up, cleaned up, improved ten fold, and I am here saying, let's rock.

Fuck all you Perry only fans. I love SP, but I am here to say you Perry onlies want Journey to fail..I say, "eat the corn out of my shit." I am a Journey fan..A Real Journey fan, a live Journey fan, and I KNOW this incarnation will do so OJ Simpson on people.........

I love this lineup. THIS lineup is the shit.


yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:14 am

Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:16 am

Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Glenn » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:20 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.



Please God...don't let anyone answer "Hugo"
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Aaron » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:31 am

Easy, Hugo.

Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.
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Postby Monker » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Dont' BS. It's the worst kep secret here that you and deano are in bed on tapegate.


Just a mild mannered Journey fan here.
Me and Dean may possibly share some similar views. Just as you and NIG share yours.
But that hardly enables Monker to bring Dean's gf into this.

Red13JoePa wrote:The Lula reference or his wife ref?


The Lula reference was first made in a different thread. So I'm not sure.


The bottom line is that you end every post with a cheapshot. If I want to take the bullshit down another level in my reply and bring up other people, I will. Like you said, everything is fair game...and there are no rules. If you are going to play the game, pretending to be 'innocent' and doing the 'he did it first' game is a bit silly.

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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:33 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Easy. Chalfant. Even though I wouldn't want him to, I'm sure he would drop his projects to join Journey.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Vladan » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:35 am

JSS Rocks! wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.



Please God...don't let anyone answer "Hugo"


They wont - Hugo sux.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:38 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Aaron » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:41 am

Ditto Monker. Chalfant would be my second choice.

Monker wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Monker wrote:
Rock'nCheyanna wrote: yeah i agree.... perry is the best but hes gone...face it....they have the next best thing to further Journey longer. Why doesn't everyone be happy for their band and enjoy the fact that someone is trying to help them and keep them going. Jeff....here to do so....so give him a chance and enjoy the music.


Because of how it was done. It's as simple as that.

I also don't think JSS is the next best thing to Perry. That is complete bullshit.


Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Easy. Chalfant. Even though I wouldn't want him to, I'm sure he would drop his projects to join Journey.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:48 am

Vladan wrote:
They wont - Hugo sux.


Sorry man, you lost all credibility with the following statement made by yourself in a previous thread -

"I don't mind Rick Astley - *takes a deep breath*. Now what was difficult to say, I can only imagine what it would be like for people coming out of the closet"


Oh, and Hugo, Hugo, Hugo! :wink:
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Aaron » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:51 am

I'm with you bro ... Hugo's the man.

finalfight wrote:
Vladan wrote:
They wont - Hugo sux.


Sorry man, you lost all credibility with the following statement made by yourself in a previous thread -

"I don't mind Rick Astley - *takes a deep breath*. Now what was difficult to say, I can only imagine what it would be like for people coming out of the closet"


Oh, and Hugo, Hugo, Hugo! :wink:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:54 am

Monker wrote: If I want to take the bullshit down another level in my reply and bring up other people, I will. Like you said, everything is fair game...and there are no rules.


By all means, I encourage you to bring up people!
But try to bring up people that actually have real signifigance in my life.
Not Lula who I have spoken with maybe 5 times at most.
That's as arbitrary as attacking NIG's mom or Andrew's sister.
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Postby Monker » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:55 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote: If I want to take the bullshit down another level in my reply and bring up other people, I will. Like you said, everything is fair game...and there are no rules.


By all means, I encourage you to bring up people!
But try to bring up people that actually have real signifigance in my life.
Not Lula who I have spoken with maybe 5 times at most.
That's as arbitrary as attacking NIG's mom or Andrew's sister.


I'll do whatever I want. I don't follow your rules.

Now, quit whining about my posts and start talking about Journey.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:01 pm

Monker wrote:I'll do whatever I want. I don't follow your rules.


They're not my rules. They're rules of civilized society.
Why don't u go pounce on someone on the street and dry hump their leg while you're at it.

Monker wrote:Now, quit whining about my posts and start talking about Journey.


Like you should talk.
Why don't you reprimand Andrew on the fine art of forum moderating again, u pedantic meathammer.
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Postby Monker » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:10 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:They're not my rules. They're rules of civilized society.


LOL! I could care less. It's an internet forum...not a Pizza Hut.

Like you should talk.


Oh, I do. I talk lots. I know you've noticed that.

Why don't you reprimand Andrew on the fine art of forum moderating again


Cuz I like the way he runs this forum now.

u pedantic meathammer.


Get over your MSB and download some porn and have a release.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:17 pm

Monker wrote:LOL! I could care less. It's an internet forum...not a Pizza Hut.


Lame.

Oh, I do. I talk lots. I know you've noticed that.


Total insipid humorless crap.

Get over your MSB and download some porn and have a release.


Is that all you got? Fuck this. I'd rather go watch an old episode of Major Dad.
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Postby Chakra » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:16 pm

IF I WERE U...
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PLAN A: Def Leppard w/ Journey @ Coors Amphitheatre. We would’ve liked to have been in the Camaro when some 40-something rock promoter—gut, cigarette wrinkles, beer teeth—thought this one up. The two cheese-embracing arena rock bands have sold more than 100 million records combined. Judging by the parade of hits, it seems they were the only two bands recording in the ’80s (Journey especially, so expect an aging crowd to croon along to “Open Arms” and “Faithfully”). Journey’s replacement singer is sick, so they replaced him with another replacement, Jeff Scott Soto—a former vocalist with Yngwie Malmsteen and Soul Sirkus, the side project of Journey guitarist Neal Schon. He’s no Steve Perry, but he’s reportedly not bad. Leppard will bring the torn-jeans hits as well, plus some covers from their latest release. PLAN B: Onethousand Pictures w/ Persephone’s Bees @ The Casbah. To be honest, headliner Every Move’s a Picture is forgettable. But the support is fine. Onethousand Pictures is San Diego’s newest breakout band, signed to Velvet Hammer/Columbia Records before anyone besides their parents knew their name. A bit of an ’80s mix of keyboard alt-rock and Boingo-era Danny Elfman yelps, they’re worth seeing now before their major-label debut drops in October. Persephone’s Bees is a punky new-wave thing from Oakland, with a female vocalist who’s half sex, half attack dog. PLAN C: Deep Rooted @ the Belly Up. San Diego’s mellow hybrid of hip-hop and soul, trading harmonic flows with female-sung gospel swoons.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:38 pm

finalfight wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:


Uh dude, not quite.

Perry is retired.
Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.
Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.
Timothy Lewis is NOT as Good as JSS.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:42 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:


Uh dude, not quite.

Perry is retired.
Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.
Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.
Timothy Lewis is NOT as Good as JSS.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.




Perry is inactive, NOT retired.
What about Sammy Hagar or Chris Cornell?
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Rockindeano » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:46 pm

Saint John wrote:


Perry is inactive, NOT retired.
What about Sammy Hagar or Chris Cornell?


Hagar is a bigger name, but he is NOT as good as Jeff.. NO WAY near as good.

Cornell to me sounds a bit like Jeff.
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:56 pm

MATTHEW wrote: Well, we'll never know if The Babys would have gone on to world domination in the mid-80s - but what we do know is that Jonathan Cain has enjoyed limited success in his career when he hasn't worked with Perry. As for Schon...again, his work without Perry has enjoyed minor success at best.

Sure, Journey rescued Perry from the turkey farm but all the evidence from 1977 onwards suggests that it was the Voice who had the midas touch.


Matthew are u the sole voice of reason on this entire long (x paged) thread? Seems like it.
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:04 pm

Monker wrote: And, in thread of posts, I did not see ANY that said that JSS had an awesome voice. In fact, it was said that he didn't have the Journey sound. You were ONLY concentrating on how you hate Augeri fans.


Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Read what I wrote again. I was talking to SJ about how I hated the Augeri fans I met at ONE MNG. Get ur facts straight ok?

Well, as you said about Augeri, I'l say about Perry...Not only can he not sing like you remember, but he doesn't perform and sing anyway, and hasn't for years...So, it's all a bit irrelevant.


Prove it. It was said b4 that he lost his voice. Then he did FTLOSM. If u weren't at those shows u have no idea. Boy could he sing. He hasn't been singing publicly in a while & that's true. That don't prove he can't sing like I remember. Just wait. U may hear from him again. He's not dead yet.

I don't care if you love Perry...Taking that love and using it as a catalyst to attack Augeri and his fans is wrong, IMO...ESPECIALY when MANY Perry fans ACT IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.


That's not what I did Monker. U take everything out of context. I talked only about the girl I work w/& her undying completely devoted love of Augeri & how he can do no wrong. & I talked about my experience going to 1 (read that again: 1 spelled ONE) MNG w/her where she kept telling me to be cool, don't drink too much, don't swear, etc. Read what I write. Not what u think I wrote. Ok?

Well, Freddy is dead and Perry doesn't sing...So, when you judge other singers, judge by how they SING AND PERFORM, not by how their fans act.


I didn't. See above. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Yep, I post with the most, babe.


No u just seem to like to cause trouble here.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby Liam » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:15 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
Saint John wrote:


Perry is inactive, NOT retired.
What about Sammy Hagar or Chris Cornell?


Hagar is a bigger name, but he is NOT as good as Jeff.. NO WAY near as good.

Cornell to me sounds a bit like Jeff.


Gotta jump in here....for Journey songs...Hagar isn't right..Although it'd be interesting to hear.
Cornell....sounds a little like JSS...but NO. Again...not right for Journey. It Wouldn't work. You'd have a better chance with Hagar.
Imagine THAT tour.."Journey Featuring Sammy Hagar". I'd pay top dollar for that. lol.
Again....rather interesting. :-)
For now, though, JSS is Kickin' ass for Journey. And I, for one, am happy that he could take over and do what he's done.
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:28 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
finalfight wrote:Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:


Uh dude, not quite.

Perry is retired.
Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.
Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.
Timothy Lewis is NOT as Good as JSS.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.


Hmm Jamison might have added to ticket sales. U could get a combined Journey/Survivor fanbase. But Neal would have to agree to do Eye of the Tiger & High on You & what was that other ballad..live on the road . I dunno. That's really selling out. & this happened mid-tour anyway so...& Jamison was not yet officially available at the time. Mid-tour adding Survivor songs? Nah.
Chalfant is difficult supposedly. They already considered him.
Timothy Lewis who the hell is he?
Hugo? I agree w/Deano. No way Jose.
JSS gets along w/Neal & has writing chemistry w/him, gets along w/Deen, gets along w/Cain, possibly also gets along w/Ross, he is nice to fans, can sing live. Hmm. Tough decisions here...Who shall we pick from this list? Anyone a rhodes scholar?
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby McNeil » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:31 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
finalfight wrote:Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:


Uh dude, not quite.

Perry is retired.
Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.
Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.
Timothy Lewis is NOT as Good as JSS.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.


Hmm Jamison might have added to ticket sales. U could get a combined Journey/Survivor fanbase. But Neal would have to agree to do Eye of the Tiger & High on You & what was that other ballad..live on the road . I dunno. That's really selling out. & this happened mid-tour anyway so...& Jamison was not yet officially available at the time. Mid-tour adding Survivor songs? Nah.
Chalfant is difficult supposedly. They already considered him.
Timothy Lewis who the hell is he?
Hugo? I agree w/Deano. No way Jose.
JSS gets along w/Neal & has writing chemistry w/him, gets along w/Deen, gets along w/Cain, possibly also gets along w/Ross, he is nice to fans, can sing live. Hmm. Tough decisions here...Who shall we pick from this list? Anyone a rhodes scholar?


Jamison's voice is blown now...so really he should have been the natural choice!! :wink:
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby ArnelRox » Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:33 pm

McNeil wrote: Jamison's voice is blown now...so really he should have been the natural choice!! :wink:


Since when? I heard the guy last yr & he rocked.
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Postby yulog » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:03 pm

Im sure everyone said we should be happy van halen was continuing when they got Cherone and look what happened--------Cherone great for extreme----didnt fit van halen at all----------if Journey is going to go with the dirty dozen and they will always do that because thats where the money is they need someone who sounds like or comes close to Perry Im still reading reviews(phoenix reviews from yesterday of many people saying Soto doesnt fit or cant hit the notes the way they are used to hearing them--they say he has energy but they are not won over. I still have yet to hear a boot that has won me over. If you going to pick from available singers -2 choices chalfant and hugo both these guys have done journeyesque cds 2 fires, the storm sound like journey and hugo"s solo albums in some cases sounds more like journey than journey does. I think whoever neal gets paired with the other person tends to get better if your opposed to hugo who knows he may change your mind once he starts working with him, id say chalfant but that whole screwed over thing with perry probably would keep him from coming back
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Re: This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:40 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Name one guy better than JSS is available. Just one.


Steve Perry, Kevin Chalfont, Jimi Jamison, Timothy Lewis...and not forgetting Hugo! <ducks> :lol:


Uh dude, not quite.

Perry is retired.
Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.
Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.
Timothy Lewis is NOT as Good as JSS.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.


Horses for courses really. I would strongly argue that Hugo, Kevin Chalfont, Timothy Lewis and possibly even Jimi Jamison are better suited vocally for Journey than JSS. Don't get me wrong, I love Jeff's energy but am not sold on his so far indifferent vocal perfmance with Journey.

Deano - I know Hugo may be regarded by many as the second coming, but Jesus Christ? That may be going a little too far! <does Augeri wiggle to avoid incoming fist> :lol:

JourneyRox - Timothy Lewis was the lead singer on the Departure album The Corporate Wheel. You should definately check it out if you are a fan of classic Journey.

I think overall the gig is Steve Perry's if and when he wants it. I personally would be stoked to see that happen as I would for any of the above singers and indeed many others to have their chance at the helm. Perhaps with Journey's relentless touring schedule and voice destroying catalogue, they should take out a different singer for each tour? Like an all star performance, Journey with...
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