Replacing Augeri Mid-Tour IS NOT COOL

[Saint John]

Perhaps a question you should ask him. I will only say it was a colorful weekend that many here heard/read the details of.

U & Deano had a wild torrid affair? OMG only on MR.

Someone better supply details!!!!!

[sadie65]

Perhaps a question you should ask him. I will only say it was a colorful weekend that many here heard/read the details of.

U & Deano had a wild torrid affair? OMG only on MR.

Someone better supply details!!!!!

No...I can assure all of you...no torrid affair. But there was the trip to the emergency room....

[ArnelRox]

Perhaps a question you should ask him. I will only say it was a colorful weekend that many here heard/read the details of.

U & Deano had a wild torrid affair? OMG only on MR.

Someone better supply details!!!!!

Are u sure u want them? Consider the source who might supply them? ewww

[McNeil]

When Perry was replaced, they waited nearly two years just to discuss things with him. With Augeri, they seemed to already have it planned. That's acting like a bunch of pricks.

It's NOT a cool way for a band to act. It's NOT a cool way for someone new to be introducted. It's not a cool thing for supposed fans like you to support.

Ok let me play devil's advocate for a second. Let's suppose Dean really knows the scoop (don't argue about Dean or how u feel about him-just take what he has told us as the gospel for 2 minutes then go back to regularly scheduled programming). Just look at this scenario & think about it.

We all know Augeri was having issues at the beginning of the Generations tour. He admitted that himself. So the band says "Steve please step down. Let us hire someone else so we can go on." Augeri doesn't want to step down & threatens to make contractual problems if they try to go on w/out him. Maybe this conversation happened before the Generations tour. Maybe it has been discussed for almost 2 years. Augeri held his ground & went to tape. His voice got worse but he still wouldnt step down. The band is livid w/him. But they want to go on touring. They wont be able to tour forever. Theyre getting old. They need to make hay while the sun shines. They cant just fire him bcoz they made him a partner (whether full or partial). What do they do now?

Bingo. Someone notices the tapes. The story builds & builds. Aha. Augeri has to step down. But the band has to pick up the pieces. In comes JSS-a guy who can sing live & quickly builds rapport w/fans.

Could this be what happened? We'll never know. But it's one way to look at it.

Ok u can return to regularly scheduled programming now.

Absolutely no way in the world this scenario is right...it is the exact opposite.

No singer will voluntarily carry on, or demand to carry on when his voice is fucked..that is just bizarre!! He wants to protect his asset..not destroy it.

The band insisted he carry on, they were about to break Europe..a whole new "trip" for them... it wld have been madness to replace Augeri. who was getting great press in the UK, in rock circles, anyway...Journey will never be mainstream again..unfortunately.
They gambled on "tapegate" to carry them thru.... it failed..they were caught red handed..... Steve is out..... after never having had a full chance to recover from the voice prob, which became chronic during the extended tape run of about 14 months or so. off n on...some nights he felt better...so more of it was live, othernights, more tape ...less live.

Had they seen off the end of the tour undiscovered, Augeri would finally have got his rest.... that he had been promised...but instead, he was hung out to dry, by his phoney, cheating band members.

and it is as simple and straightforward as that, because I know!!

[Liam]

After reading this...I'm kinda curious....how the hell was it "Not cool"? The guy had no voice, under contract, Didn't deliver, find replacement. Seems pretty simple to me.

[johnroxx]

So you moved on to loitering playgrounds and fiddling with little boys instead.

So let me guess; that was the "articulate" part...

Is that why there's such a frothy mix of cum and lube bubbling out of your ass?

...and that was the "cogent" bit.

Right?

[McNeil]

So you moved on to loitering playgrounds and fiddling with little boys instead.

So let me guess; that was the "articulate" part...

Is that why there's such a frothy mix of cum and lube bubbling out of your ass?

...and that was the "cogent" bit.

Right?

Ouch!! that's gotta hurt !!

[Rockindeano]

So you moved on to loitering playgrounds and fiddling with little boys instead.

So let me guess; that was the "articulate" part...

Is that why there's such a frothy mix of cum and lube bubbling out of your ass?

...and that was the "cogent" bit.

Right?

Pebbles, go get your mop and bucket and clean out Ms Hucklebees bathroom in room 234. She just laid a wet shit all over the place. When you get done, change her linen and then sponge bath her. Do it now, Mop Boy!

And stay off the MR music board. You are defeated ala Napolean.

[johnroxx]

So you moved on to loitering playgrounds and fiddling with little boys instead.

So let me guess; that was the "articulate" part...

Is that why there's such a frothy mix of cum and lube bubbling out of your ass?

...and that was the "cogent" bit.

Right?

Pebbles, go get your mop and bucket and clean out Ms Hucklebees bathroom in room 234. She just laid a wet shit all over the place. When you get done, change her linen and then sponge bath her. Do it now, Mop Boy!

And stay off the MR music board. You are defeated ala Napolean.

If that was supposed to be indicative of what you think you can do to "defeat" me, Beano, you're even more delusional than I thought. Weak, man..as weak as it gets.

Let me try yet again to clear this up for you. Cleaning up "wet shits" and linens, and giving sponge baths, is the work of a CNA (look it up if you haven't a clue...I suspect as much). I'm not a CNA.

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

[yogi]

It is still hard for me to believe that JOURNEY frickin JOURNEY would resort to using tapes at LIVE venues.

How could Neil, Ross, Jonathan etc allow this to happen????? Are they THAT desperate for money????

Ive heard for years here that Steve Perrys voice is shot. Well when you think about it, it really didnt matter. Just fire up some tapes from their heyday, trot Steve P. out there have him lip it. Who the hell would know.

They have RUINED the name.

Someone should sue their asses for leading us to believe we were seeing a live show. I wonder if anybody somewhere got killed or crippled on there way to seeing one of Journey's current 'live'???? shows????? How damn sad would that be????

It really doesnt matter how it happened or what their contracts stated, they mislead their fans. They should all be ashamed, and they are a farce.

In my mind now the band died when Steve Perry walked( or limped) away!!!!!!!!

There is ABSOLUTELY NO way to justify what they did!!!!!

This isnt a one hit wonder or some novelty band. We are talking about Journey. What a damn joke!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lula]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

[Red13JoePa]

Someone should sue their asses for leading us to believe we were seeing a live show.

If any judge were idiotic enough to not throw the suit out the second he cracked the seal on it, Journey's defense attorney's first manuever would be to petition for dismissal and they'd get it. In record time.

Unless the plaintiffs would have something LEGITIMATE as evidence not soundclips of boots and wild allegations.

[*Laura]

Someone should sue their asses for leading us to believe we were seeing a live show.

If any judge were idiotic enough to not throw the suit out the second he cracked the seal on it, Journey's defense attorney's first manuever would be to petition for dismissal and they'd get it. In record time.

Unless the plaintiffs would have something LEGITIMATE as evidence not soundclips of boots and wild allegations.

Yep.That's how the law works.

[NealIsGod]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

Storm's a brewin'...

[yogi]

I know exactly how the law works.

I also know right from wrong.

What they did was WRONG!!!!

They are a farce, and they prostituted themselves.

[Red13JoePa]

If it were wrong then there'd either be REAL, VERIFIABLE proof of it, or tough shit.
If it didn't get thrown out right away, dismissed on first motion by defense, it would be shot full of more holes than Santino Corleone at the causeway hit the second it got to "evidence" discovery.

Oh, also more than likely there would simultaneously be an airtight defamation countersuit sailing through the legal process that would end in summary judgement for Jrny.

[Moon Beam]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

Storm's a brewin'...

Niggy your a shit stirrer.....
one of my fave qualities in you as a matter of fact
but shit give the lady a chance to start her day first.

[johnroxx]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

Hi, Lula...hope you are well.

Three things:

-For the record, I have no quarrel with you. From the couple of times we've met, you seem like a nice enough gal, and I respect your chosen profession greatly. I truly mean that.

-I appreciate that you recognize me as someone who won't take any shit.

-Based on what I've seen from Deano here, and what I know about the people I spoke with yesterday, I'm totally inclined to believe the veracity of what they told me. Unless of course every single one of them is a liar, and I just don't see that.

Deano should have at least an idea of what I'm talking about. And that's all that matters. No need to hash it out the gory details here, or via PM either.

^)

[Lula]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

Storm's a brewin'...

Niggy your a shit stirrer.....
one of my fave qualities in you as a matter of fact
but shit give the lady a chance to start her day first.

No shit here folks, move along.
You know me, I can only take so much and the people who feel free to talk behind someone's back is so high school. Most of us are beyond that... I think.

[jemhadar]

It is still hard for me to believe that JOURNEY frickin JOURNEY would resort to using tapes at LIVE venues.

How could Neil, Ross, Jonathan etc allow this to happen????? Are they THAT desperate for money????

Yeah that is the same question that haunts me...

How could those excellent musicians do this? I really respected Deen as a musician since i play drums myselves, but not anymore!

[McNeil]

And after hearing more than a few choice stories about you in Chula Vista last night, from not one, not two, not three, but numerous people who have met you and have direct knowledge of your past reputation, my new nick-name for you is "Beano the Bridge-Burner." Wear it with pride, son.

And you know exactly what I mean. Man...talk about having dirt on someone...BWAHAHA!!! What a loser...truth is, there's no need for anyone to pick on you...you're clearly your own worst enemy.

;^)

Just curious John, you spoke with numerous people who know Dean and his past? Care to share.... in a PM? I've had my reputation slammed because of my association with Dean and quite frankly the people that have participated in the slamming are hypocrites and full of shit. Aren't we as humans fallible and able to change? Most of us, if not all, have things in our pasts we are not exactly proud of. I'm so tired of people talking shit. At least you have the balls to speak your mind and don't back down when challenged.

Storm's a brewin'...

Niggy your a shit stirrer.....
one of my fave qualities in you as a matter of fact
but shit give the lady a chance to start her day first.

No shit here folks, move along.
You know me, I can only take so much and the people who feel free to talk behind someone's back is so high school. Most of us are beyond that... I think.

come on Lula... its "par for the course" here isnt it??

pm's flow too n fro, about people here, like water flows over Niagara Falls.. lets not pretend otherwise. Yet the true fact is, nobody knows anybody here (actual meetings are rare...but ok..there have been a couple). Most of the anatagonistic Bullshit written here, is just Cyber-talk... we all know that once you are "face to face" normality resumes, and the vast majority will become normal, polite and sane human beings.

People "blow hard" here because they cant in the real world.. it really is that simple.

[Lula]

[quote="johnroxx
Hi, Lula...hope you are well.

Three things:

-For the record, I have no quarrel with you. From the couple of times we've met, you seem like a nice enough gal, and I respect your chosen profession greatly. I truly mean that.

-I appreciate that you recognize me as someone who won't take any shit.

-Based on what I've seen from Deano here, and what I know about the people I spoke with yesterday, I'm totally inclined to believe the veracity of what they told me. Unless of course every single one of them is a liar, and I just don't see that.

Deano should have at least an idea of what I'm talking about. And that's all that matters. No need to hash it out the gory details here, or via PM either.

^)[/quote]

Thanks John. I am doing quite well these days, seeing success with my students which is what it's all about.

Not knowing who you spoke to I will question the validity in what you were told. There are a number of persons I've met that are most definitely not the person I thought they were, but that is in the past and I have moved on..... talk about burning bridges

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, I understand the need to promote "Generations", but Augeri didn't really sing much of that on the tour, did he?? Given JSS's popularity in Europe, it seems the European Tour would have been the perfect time to can Augeri and bring in JSS.

Agreed.
Something I also predicted a year ago.

http://forums.melodicrock.com:/phpBB/vi ... ons#116905

[The_Noble_Cause]

Oh, I don't care...Froy can put it up if he wants.

Funny, last time that happened you went ballistic and threatened to self-exile yourself from MR.com forever.
Hey, it's cool.
If I looked like shit I'd feel the same way.

[Lula]

[quote="McNeil

come on Lula... its "par for the course" here isnt it??

pm's flow too n fro, about people here, like water flows over Niagara Falls.. lets not pretend otherwise. Yet the true fact is, nobody knows anybody here (actual meetings are rare...but ok..there have been a couple). Most of the anatagonistic Bullshit written here, is just Cyber-talk... we all know that once you are "face to face" normality resumes, and the vast majority will become normal, polite and sane human beings.

People "blow hard" here because they cant in the real world.. it really is that simple.[/quote]

Ahhh, but these are people I've met and at one time considered to be friends. This goes back, there is a history.... you speak of which you do not know

I can decipher the chisme, facts, cyber-talk, etc...

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think Neal wanted Augeri gone long ago. He could have fired him for not being able to perform,

I feel this is a common misperception.
People think once Perry was removed Neal got "the reins back" and resumed a great degree of control.
However, Neal and Jon never held the reins to begin with; Herbie Herbert did.
And in a similar fashion, their current management now call the shots.
I really don't think Neal has as much power as its made out to seem.

[The_Noble_Cause]

People "blow hard" here because they cant in the real world.. it really is that simple.

I can honestly say that I conduct myself the same in the real world as I do here in the cyber world.
Just because YOU resort to using an anonymous sn & a web browser to do your dirty work (while actually going about daily life as a cowering, reticent, take-orders, pussy-faggot) does NOT mean we all do the same. Thank you.

[Carlitto H@kk]

I think Neal wanted Augeri gone long ago. He could have fired him for not being able to perform,

I feel this is a common misperception.
People think once Perry was removed Neal got "the reins back" and resumed a great degree of control.
However, Neal and Jon never held the reins to begin with; Herbie Herbert did.
And in a similar fashion, their current management now call the shots.
I really don't think Neal has as much power as its made out to seem.

I guess we'll see just how much power Neal and Jon have once Deano's Azoff-firing prediction comes to pass. Personnally, I hope they do make a change. Whether you think they are all washed up or not, the RIGHT Management can go a long way in making this band very popular again and Azoff never really seemed to try.

[heardonthestreet]

I think Neal wanted Augeri gone long ago. He could have fired him for not being able to perform,

I feel this is a common misperception.
People think once Perry was removed Neal got "the reins back" and resumed a great degree of control.
However, Neal and Jon never held the reins to begin with; Herbie Herbert did.
And in a similar fashion, their current management now call the shots.
I really don't think Neal has as much power as its made out to seem.

I guess we'll see just how much power Neal and Jon have once Deano's Azoff-firing prediction comes to pass. Personnally, I hope they do make a change. Whether you think they are all washed up or not, the RIGHT Management can go a long way in making this band very popular again and Azoff never really seemed to try.

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He's done well with others. I'd say that bottom line is he did the best with what he had to work with.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So let me guess; that was the "articulate" part...

...and that was the "cogent" bit.

Right?

Not every post has to be classy, you uptight choad.
Now return to ur day job of writing crossword puzzles for the bubmblefuck gazette.