This Band can Now Make a "Comeback."

[fred_journeyman]

...I would strongly argue that Hugo, Kevin Chalfont, Timothy Lewis and possibly even Jimi Jamison are better suited vocally for Journey than JSS. Don't get me wrong, I love Jeff's energy but am not sold on his so far indifferent vocal perfmance with Journey.

After giving this considerable thought, I think I'm ready to give Journey a huge chance with the "new guy." I think there is plenty of potential there and personally, I'm now thinking that I would like to hear what Jeff brings to the table as far as song-writing goes...Journey style. We'll see what happens...

I think overall the gig is Steve Perry's if and when he wants it. I personally would be stoked to see that happen as I would for any of the above singers and indeed many others to have their chance at the helm. Perhaps with Journey's relentless touring schedule and voice destroying catalogue, they should take out a different singer for each tour? Like an all star performance, Journey with...

AN OPINION: Steve Perry would not do the songs justice either at this stage of the game. Sure, like Elvis in his later years, some would say that he (Perry) sounds "better than ever" when in fact, Jeff probably hits the highs much better than Perry would these days.

Journey needs to be fronted by a young guy, with a ton of energy and talent. Oh wait a minute! Jeff's already there...

[Matthew]

...I would strongly argue that Hugo, Kevin Chalfont, Timothy Lewis and possibly even Jimi Jamison are better suited vocally for Journey than JSS. Don't get me wrong, I love Jeff's energy but am not sold on his so far indifferent vocal perfmance with Journey.

After giving this considerable thought, I think I'm ready to give Journey a huge chance with the "new guy." I think there is plenty of potential there and personally, I'm now thinking that I would like to hear what Jeff brings to the table as far as song-writing goes...Journey style. We'll see what happens...

I think overall the gig is Steve Perry's if and when he wants it. I personally would be stoked to see that happen as I would for any of the above singers and indeed many others to have their chance at the helm. Perhaps with Journey's relentless touring schedule and voice destroying catalogue, they should take out a different singer for each tour? Like an all star performance, Journey with...

AN OPINION: Steve Perry would not do the songs justice either at this stage of the game. Sure, like Elvis in his later years, some would say that he (Perry) sounds "better than ever"

Here we go again...always with the Elvis chat..

[fred_journeyman]

Here we go again...always with the Elvis chat..

It's a comparison, Matty and I haven't mentioned Elvis in a while. Are you a guy or a gal (I know your nic is MATTHEW, but that means little on this board when you can't see the person behind the nic)? Just curious. You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis. Are you gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Not sure why you don't get my comparison, but I'll try to explain it...

You see, Elvis got really fat toward the end of his life. He was hooked on pills and often fell asleep while attempting to take a dump on the commode. He would routinely forget words in concert and even lie down on the stage to continue singing. In SPITE of all of this, some people said that he was "better than ever."

Now, my comparison is simple (try to follow)...Perry has aged and likely lost his high end. He's put on a few pounds as well. That's where the comparison stops. As far as I know, he is not doing drugs and doesn't fall asleep while relieving himself. I've also never heard of him lying down on stage while singing or forgetting words to songs.

What I'm saying is really simple - in spite of the fact that Perry has put on a few pounds, likely lost his high end and might not even have the energy he did when he was younger, people would say "My GOD, he sounds BETTER now than he did years ago!" This is because people see what they want to see. You did it when you saw this post. You saw it only as a knock against Elvis. Even after I explain this, you will probably still not see what I'm talking about because of your Elvis Blinders.

Elvis had tremendous talent, but he let himself go and because of that, became a parody of himself. Steve Perry had tremendous talent as well and through the years, a few things have happened that have taken more than the edge off. That's all. End of story. It's a comparison.

Over to you...

[Matthew]

Here we go again...always with the Elvis chat..

It's a comparison, Matty and I haven't mentioned Elvis in a while. Are you a guy or a gal (I know your nic is MATTHEW, but that means little on this board when you can't see the person behind the nic)? Just curious. You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis. Are you gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Not sure why you don't get my comparison, but I'll try to explain it...

You see, Elvis got really fat toward the end of his life. He was hooked on pills and often fell asleep while attempting to take a dump on the commode. He would routinely forget words in concert and even lie down on the stage to continue singing. In SPITE of all of this, some people said that he was "better than ever."

Now, my comparison is simple (try to follow)...Perry has aged and likely lost his high end. He's put on a few pounds as well. That's where the comparison stops. As far as I know, he is not doing drugs and doesn't fall asleep while relieving himself. I've also never heard of him lying down on stage while singing or forgetting words to songs.

What I'm saying is really simple - in spite of the fact that Perry has put on a few pounds, likely lost his high end and might not even have the energy he did when he was younger, people would say "My GOD, he sounds BETTER now than he did years ago!" This is because people see what they want to see. You did it when you saw this post. You saw it only as a knock against Elvis. Even after I explain this, you will probably still not see what I'm talking about because of your Elvis Blinders.

Elvis had tremendous talent, but he let himself go and because of that, became a parody of himself. Steve Perry had tremendous talent as well and through the years, a few things have happened that have taken more than the edge off. That's all. End of story. It's a comparison.

Over to you...

Fred...I'm a bloke and Matthew is my real name...(wish I could change it to lower case...I hate those stupid capitals...don't what I was thinking)...and no I'm not gay...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Thank you for explaining your point in such a patient and clear way. We had this same conversation three weeks ago - so I'll try to respond patiently too.

Firstly, I couldn't care less about Elvis. All I'm picking up on is your disingenious attempt to associate Perry with images that are totally irrelevant to his - Perry's - situation.

All you are saying is that Perry has probably lost a few notes from the high end of his range - and that he has put on a few pounds in his late 50s.

Big deal! Would this prevent him from making a dignified comeback? Of course not. Yet you conjure up images of Vegas-era Elvis...when he was grotesquely fat...drugged out of his brain...and all in all a pitiful shadow of his former self.

Sure, some fans would excuse Perry no matter what shape he was in. But Perry isn't in bad shape. Why not compare him to, say, Billy Joel who at the same age has just finished a hugely successful comeback tour (where he broke the record at Madison Square Garden for consecutive nights played)?

Fred - you have clearly had some bad experiences at the hands of the Perryloons - and believe me - I feel your pain - but try not to let resentment cloud your judgement of the Great Man himself.

[Chakra]

Say whaaaat? You are really off the chain idiot. How dare you ask someone if they are gay, straight, female, male or otherwise? The comments you make are slanderous and ignorant. We protect our identities for a reason. Crazies like you.

You are out of line. Someday we are going to read about you on the evening news, and it's not going to be for any positive contribution you've made to society. The authorities will have all your twisted posts here as evidence. You really creep me out. Get some help before you take your rage to the next level.
You are waving some serious Red Flags here, dude. Scary.

[finalfight]

Journey needs to be fronted by a young guy, with a ton of energy and talent. Oh wait a minute! Jeff's already there...

Isn't JSS 41? Thats hardly young, although in comparison I can see your point.

[fred_journeyman]

Fred...I'm a bloke and Matthew is my real name...(wish I could change it to lower case...I hate those stupid capitals...don't what I was thinking)...and no I'm not gay...not that there's anything wrong with that.

I would think Andrew would be able to help you with that...you should ask him. Wombat to the rescue!

Firstly, I couldn't care less about Elvis. All I'm picking up on is your disingenious attempt to associate Perry with images that are totally irrelevant to his - Perry's - situation.

Look, my MAIN point (and I simply used Elvis to illustrate it) was that to SOME people, if Perry got up on stage and croaked, they would go, "Wow, he sounds better than ever!!"

Big deal! Would this prevent him from making a dignified comeback? Of course not. Yet you conjure up images of Vegas-era Elvis...when he was grotesquely fat...drugged out of his brain...and all in all a pitiful shadow of his former self.

No Matt. I simply chose to use the Elvis factor as a comparison. If you're read my post, I clearly stated where the comparison STOPPED. Regarding Perry's dignified comeback, I think it would be welcome by many (whether he was solor or with Journey), however IN MY OPINION after the initial comeback, I'm not sure that the welcome would last ONLY BECAUSE I do NOT think he has what it takes (energy/creativity/high-ranging vocals) to honestly make a comeback worth ANYONE'S while, including HIS. Frankly, I believe that this is exactly why he has NOT had a comeback. AGAIN, THE PRECEDING STATEMENTS ARE SOLELY MY OPININON AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF STEVE PERRY, OR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR AGENTS, OR ANDREW THE WOMBAT, OR THIS FORUM, OR THE INTERNET ITSELF OR JOURNEY AND ANY OF ITS RELATED AFFILIATES...OR ELVIS AND HIS ESTATE.

Sure, some fans would excuse Perry no matter what shape he was in. But Perry isn't in bad shape. Why not compare him to, say, Billy Joel who at the same age has just finished a hugely successful comeback tour (where he broke the record at Madison Square Garden for consecutive nights played)?

I could do that, but then someone would jump on me because of Joel's alleged alcohol/drug problems...

Fred - you have clearly had some bad experiences at the hands of the Perryloons - and believe me - I feel your pain - but try not to let resentment cloud your judgement of the Great Man himself.

Matt, I honestly wish you could KNOW that I hold NO resentment toward the man at all. The people I detest are his rabid followers and I do NOT blame Perry for them. They're misguided, afflicted and generally emotional messes. That's NOT Perry's fault. I would love for him to come back to the stage. I simply do not believe it will happen.

I hope we're clear on this. I'll go after the Perry Troopers any day of the week, because I do NOT believe they represent the attitude that Steve Perry represents. He's a genius. They? Assholes. Him? Exceedingly creative. Them? Boring as all hell. Him? Gave the world a tremendous gift with his song and his voice. Them? Gives the world gas. Huge difference between Steve Perry and his rabid band of incoherent, go-for-the-jugular philistines.

[fred_journeyman]

Journey needs to be fronted by a young guy, with a ton of energy and talent. Oh wait a minute! Jeff's already there...

Isn't JSS 41? Thats hardly young, although in comparison I can see your point.

Thanks. Yes, comparatively speaking. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt on that one.

[fred_journeyman]

Say whaaaat? You are really off the chain idiot. How dare you ask someone if they are gay, straight, female, male or otherwise? The comments you make are slanderous and ignorant. We protect our identities for a reason. Crazies like you.

You are out of line. Someday we are going to read about you on the evening news, and it's not going to be for any positive contribution you've made to society. The authorities will have all your twisted posts here as evidence. You really creep me out. Get some help before you take your rage to the next level.
You are waving some serious Red Flags here, dude. Scary.

Oh DO shut up, you pandering pile of horse excrement! My comments are neither slanderous OR ignorant. Look up the words, sleeze bucket. My god, do you ACTUALLY think that you can SCARE me, or that I will read your words and GO AWAY?! Ain't gonna happen sweety, so deal with it.

Cheese and crackers...I think Matt knew I was kidding with him. Why are you even HERE?! You have nothing to say. You have no sense of humor and you're constantly on your PERIOD! Go change your tampon, take some Midol and get a new personality, will you? My god, what a major ASSWIPE. Dumbass.

[jrnyman28]

(wish I could change it to lower case...I hate those stupid capitals...don't what I was thinking

You can change your username in your profile.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Say whaaaat? You are really off the chain idiot. How dare you ask someone if they are gay, straight, female, male or otherwise? The comments you make are slanderous and ignorant. We protect our identities for a reason. Crazies like you.

You are out of line. Someday we are going to read about you on the evening news, and it's not going to be for any positive contribution you've made to society. The authorities will have all your twisted posts here as evidence. You really creep me out. Get some help before you take your rage to the next level.
You are waving some serious Red Flags here, dude. Scary.

Oh DO shut up, you pandering pile of horse excrement! My comments are neither slanderous OR ignorant. Look up the words, sleeze bucket. My god, do you ACTUALLY think that you can SCARE me, or that I will read your words and GO AWAY?! Ain't gonna happen sweety, so deal with it.

Cheese and crackers...I think Matt knew I was kidding with him. Why are you even HERE?! You have nothing to say. You have no sense of humor and you're constantly on your PERIOD! Go change your tampon, take some Midol and get a new personality, will you? My god, what a major ASSWIPE. Dumbass.

I'm telling ya Fred, putting those computers with the High-Speed connections in the Monasteries was a bad idea!

Shame on you, Sister Agnes Italia!

[Lula]

Journey needs to be fronted by a young guy, with a ton of energy and talent. Oh wait a minute! Jeff's already there...

Isn't JSS 41? Thats hardly young, although in comparison I can see your point.

Don't rush it, Jeff is 40 our bdays are a mere two days apart, he is older

[Matthew]

Fred...I'm a bloke and Matthew is my real name...(wish I could change it to lower case...I hate those stupid capitals...don't what I was thinking)...and no I'm not gay...not that there's anything wrong with that.

I would think Andrew would be able to help you with that...you should ask him. Wombat to the rescue!

Firstly, I couldn't care less about Elvis. All I'm picking up on is your disingenious attempt to associate Perry with images that are totally irrelevant to his - Perry's - situation.

Look, my MAIN point (and I simply used Elvis to illustrate it) was that to SOME people, if Perry got up on stage and croaked, they would go, "Wow, he sounds better than ever!!"

Big deal! Would this prevent him from making a dignified comeback? Of course not. Yet you conjure up images of Vegas-era Elvis...when he was grotesquely fat...drugged out of his brain...and all in all a pitiful shadow of his former self.

No Matt. I simply chose to use the Elvis factor as a comparison. If you're read my post, I clearly stated where the comparison STOPPED. Regarding Perry's dignified comeback, I think it would be welcome by many (whether he was solor or with Journey), however IN MY OPINION after the initial comeback, I'm not sure that the welcome would last ONLY BECAUSE I do NOT think he has what it takes (energy/creativity/high-ranging vocals) to honestly make a comeback worth ANYONE'S while, including HIS. Frankly, I believe that this is exactly why he has NOT had a comeback. AGAIN, THE PRECEDING STATEMENTS ARE SOLELY MY OPININON AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE OPINION OF STEVE PERRY, OR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR AGENTS, OR ANDREW THE WOMBAT, OR THIS FORUM, OR THE INTERNET ITSELF OR JOURNEY AND ANY OF ITS RELATED AFFILIATES...OR ELVIS AND HIS ESTATE.

Sure, some fans would excuse Perry no matter what shape he was in. But Perry isn't in bad shape. Why not compare him to, say, Billy Joel who at the same age has just finished a hugely successful comeback tour (where he broke the record at Madison Square Garden for consecutive nights played)?

I could do that, but then someone would jump on me because of Joel's alleged alcohol/drug problems...

Fred - you have clearly had some bad experiences at the hands of the Perryloons - and believe me - I feel your pain - but try not to let resentment cloud your judgement of the Great Man himself.

Matt, I honestly wish you could KNOW that I hold NO resentment toward the man at all. The people I detest are his rabid followers and I do NOT blame Perry for them. They're misguided, afflicted and generally emotional messes. That's NOT Perry's fault. I would love for him to come back to the stage. I simply do not believe it will happen.

I hope we're clear on this. I'll go after the Perry Troopers any day of the week, because I do NOT believe they represent the attitude that Steve Perry represents. He's a genius. They? Assholes. Him? Exceedingly creative. Them? Boring as all hell. Him? Gave the world a tremendous gift with his song and his voice. Them? Gives the world gas. Huge difference between Steve Perry and his rabid band of incoherent, go-for-the-jugular philistines.

Fred - do you just go after Perry Troopers? Or rabid Journey fans in general? And what about the barking mad Augeri fans whose idol isn't even a genius?

I can't quite tell whether it's extremism itself that riles you up - or just one group of extremists.

And don't worry - I didn't mind at all that you asked me if I was hot for Elvis.

[ArnelRox]

Don't rush it, Jeff is 40 our bdays are a mere two days apart, he is older

Every time I see a video of Jeff & when I saw him on stage both w/Journey & w/SS, I was struck by how young he looks. He moves like a guy in his 20s onstage. He has a young body shape too. Of course, his energy is much younger than his biological age too. If I didn't know better & was just looking at him, I wouldn't put him a day over 28 & maybe even younger than that. I need his secrets. I wish he'd share his facial creams & daily routines w/us. Of course much of it is probably genetic.

[Rockindeano]

You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis.

I love Elvis. There was NONE better, EVER.

[Andrew]

You are out of line.

Let me be the judge of that please. The recipient of that question is not offended, so neither should you be.

[Rockindeano]

Say whaaaat? You are really off the chain idiot. How dare you ask someone if they are gay, straight, female, male or otherwise? The comments you make are slanderous and ignorant. We protect our identities for a reason. Crazies like you.

You are out of line. Someday we are going to read about you on the evening news, and it's not going to be for any positive contribution you've made to society. The authorities will have all your twisted posts here as evidence. You really creep me out. Get some help before you take your rage to the next level.
You are waving some serious Red Flags here, dude. Scary.

So, are you gay?

I'll ask if I want to ask. I don't need you or anyone else telling me I can't ask people if they are pole smokers or rug munchers. I have nothing against gays...but I love the jokes.

[ArnelRox]

You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis.

I love Elvis. There was NONE better, EVER.

Well Steve Perry is up there Dean. U gotta admit.

[Rockindeano]

You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis.

I love Elvis. There was NONE better, EVER.

Well Steve Perry is up there Dean. U gotta admit.

Yes he is. But honestly, NO ONE sang like Elvis. Not even Espee.

[Rockindeano]

You are out of line.

Let me be the judge of that please. The recipient of that question is not offended, so neither should you be.

Beat her ass, Mac. Do it. Slay the Euro.

[Saint John]

You seem to have this hidden affection for Elvis.

I love Elvis. There was NONE better, EVER.

Well Steve Perry is up there Dean. U gotta admit.

Yes he is. But honestly, NO ONE sang like Elvis. Not even Espee.

Bullshit. I can easily see Perry singing any Elvis song. However, I can't say the contrary. Not to mention that Steve Perry is/was a much better songwriter. It's all subjective and this is MY opinion.

[ArnelRox]

Bullshit. I can easily see Perry singing any Elvis song. However, I can't say the contrary. Not to mention that Steve Perry is/was a much better songwriter. It's all subjective and this is MY opinion.

I've offended a lot of people when I've said the 2 greatest voices of all time were Elvis & Steve Perry. People dont think of them in the same vein. I cant put it in words like a music expert could but they both had incredible ranges. They both had that quality that takes ur breath away. Honestly not that either would want to but I think either one of them could do each other's songs. I dont think Elvis wrote any songs tho did he?

Now wheres Nora when I need her. She could probably put the music expert bit on this.

[Rockindeano]

Now wheres Nora when I need her. She could probably put the music expert bit on this.

Probably givin oral to her old man as he watches the Mets game and drinks a Molson..

[RPM]

"I love Elvis. There was NONE better, EVER."

Aint that the truth!!

even though he was a baritone, the man could hit tenor notes with POWER
I also believe Him and Steve Perry are the best Rock/Pop VOCALIST ever

[Monker]

Perry is retired.

And, he has sucked since 1986.

Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.

I totaly disagree with that. He should have been there. JSS's voice doesn't sound anything like Journey - Chalfant's does.

Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.

He WAS...Don't know about today...And, if he's no longer good enough for Survivor, he's obviously not going to be good enough for Journey.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.

Hugo sounds TOO MUCH like Perry...But, I STILL think he would have been better then JSS to finish the tour. So would Jeremy, or anybody else who SOUNDS LIKE Journey.

[Distant Voice]

Perry is retired.

And, he has sucked since 1986.

Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.

I totaly disagree with that. He should have been there. JSS's voice doesn't sound anything like Journey - Chalfant's does.

Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.

He WAS...Don't know about today...And, if he's no longer good enough for Survivor, he's obviously not going to be good enough for Journey.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.

Hugo sounds TOO MUCH like Perry...But, I STILL think he would have been better then JSS to finish the tour. So would Jeremy, or anybody else who SOUNDS LIKE Journey.

And, he has sucked since 1986.

It must be rough to be in your hateful world monker, It's sad really... I hope someday there is some sort of therapy in those cornfields you live in.

[Blueskies]

Perry is retired.

And, he has sucked since 1986.

Chalfant is NOT as Good as Jeff.

I totaly disagree with that. He should have been there. JSS's voice doesn't sound anything like Journey - Chalfant's does.

Jamison is NOT as good as JSS.

He WAS...Don't know about today...And, if he's no longer good enough for Survivor, he's obviously not going to be good enough for Journey.

Hugo? Jesus Christ.

Hugo sounds TOO MUCH like Perry...But, I STILL think he would have been better then JSS to finish the tour. So would Jeremy, or anybody else who SOUNDS LIKE Journey.

You have just earned my top pick for biggest nut case here!!! Congratulation's!!! Your prize is in the mail!!

[Clasicrockldy]

[Hugo sounds TOO MUCH like Perry...But, I STILL think he would have been better then JSS to finish the tour. So would Jeremy, or anybody else who SOUNDS LIKE Journey.

You know what, Monker, bite me ! The reason I like JSS fronting the band is because he doesn't sound anything like Steve Perry ! Now you know Perry was one if his favorite singers, influened him, and I, for one, like JSS style in singing Journey songs. He isn't trying to sound like Perry, he is his own man. Life is a journey, change happens, and if you don't like it, that is on you. It must be sad in your world.

[Monker]

It must be rough to be in your hateful world monker, It's sad really... I hope someday there is some sort of therapy in those cornfields you live in.

LOL...Don't hate anybody.

As for therapy, you're the one who keeps predicting Perry's big comeback. That's a fantasy if I ever heard one.

[Monker]

You have just earned my top pick for biggest nut case here!!! Congratulation's!!! Your prize is in the mail!!

Cool! Send it away! I like getting mail!