Journey Predictions III

[NealIsGod]

It doesnt matter but you post under the title NEALIsGod???????

Yeah, just a screen name I came up with in about 2 seconds. Don't read too much into it. Does yours mean you are Yogi Berra or do you like to steal pic-i-nic baskets?

[Red13JoePa]

Yea, Yogi stop trying to demand the outrage out of people who still support SA. Even deano and tnc seemed to have stopped this.

[NealIsGod]

Yea, Yogi stop trying to demand the outrage out of people who still support SA. Even deano and tnc seemed to have stopped this.

Yeah. At this point, it's just fake outrage to give "people" a chance to keep kicking a man when he's down.

[yogi]

I am not pissed one bit at Steve A.

I am pissed at Neal, Jonathan & Ross. These guys were rock gods in my book before...................

They were the ones who allowed this to happen.

Neal is the leader correct????????????? Its like blaming a Private when a General orders him to do something!!!!!!

[squirt1]

And people still wonder why Perry was such a perfectionist and fought for what he believed in musically. What you have witnessed these last months is decision making at its lowest level. I remember when Neal made a comment about Augeri when he 1st joined. Someone compared his voice to Perry. Could SA do the job? Neal answered-hes good enough. The part left off was he was good enough to get us more paychecks. JSS ,I believe, has seen it all & will put up with little nonsense. I was shocked the show was so good this July. I will go again.

[whocares]

I am not pissed one bit at Steve A.

I am pissed at Neal, Jonathan & Ross. These guys were rock gods in my book before...................

They were the ones who allowed this to happen.

Neal is the leader correct????????????? Its like blaming a Private when a General orders him to do something!!!!!!

Ah yes, but the private is still guilty for carrying out the order. No matter how guilty the General is for giving the order in the first place. Lots of privates are guilty for carrying out the General's orders on this one, SA included.

[Monker]

I am not pissed one bit at Steve A.

I am pissed at Neal, Jonathan & Ross. These guys were rock gods in my book before...................

They were the ones who allowed this to happen.

Neal is the leader correct????????????? Its like blaming a Private when a General orders him to do something!!!!!!

Ah yes, but the private is still guilty for carrying out the order. No matter how guilty the General is for giving the order in the first place. Lots of privates are guilty for carrying out the General's orders on this one, SA included.

They're all to blame...it's a group. It's a group decision. They all went along with it. ANY of them could have said 'no'.

[Monker]

I remember Tommy Shaw posting on the Styx website prior to one of their Superbowl performances that 'all the acts' have to have portions of their music on tape for some reason. He went on to say that it was the first time that Styx had EVER done this.

Yep...and they made the audio of the performance available for download.

I doubt Journey would ever do that...unless you paid a $100 yearly subscription, or some bullshit like that.

The FANS no longer matter...Only the money matters. THAT much is obvious.

[Crazie Scarab]

The FANS no longer matter...Only the money matters. THAT much is obvious.

Without the fans, there's no money. What the hell are you talking about?

[Monker]

Once (or if) this Def Leppard tour finally ends, I believe the next major tour will again feature a supporting act or acts.

Def Leppard isn't a 'supporting act'. If anything, Journey is.

Much in how the Arrival tour featured Frampton/Wait and Foreigner, the next tour with feature co-headliners to help ensure maximum seated capacity is reached and to further cement JSS's status as new vocalist to the great unwashed masses.
Only then, will Journey embark on a major national solo tour with Jeff at the helm.
So it is written, so it shall be done.

Gee, I thought they were going to record an album? They are going to go on tour again? Maybe you think they'll do both? I'm like, all shocked and stuff.

They are probably well on their way to planning the next tour. An album? Album? They don't need no fucking album...never stopped them before. Hmmm, 12 GH songs, and one or two new songs to tour behind, and pretend they'll be on the 'next album' or a DVD! Yeah, sounds like a good plan for mediocrity to me.

[Monker]

The FANS no longer matter...Only the money matters. THAT much is obvious.

Without the fans, there's no money. What the hell are you talking about?

Let's pretend the tape scandal and everything Dean and TNC accuse Journey of is absolute 100% FACT.

They are playing with the fans on BT by dragging out the news.

In fact, they are playing with ALL of the fans by not talking about ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. They are on one of the most successful tours around and how many interviews have they done?

The BAND screwed the fans over on the LAST tour by lip-synching vocals.

The BAND screwed the fans over by how they handled replacing Augeri by replacing him while many of the dates were already on sale.

Then there are the things I said in other posts:

The BAND placed money over best interest by not taking time out from touring to complete a full album (Red 13) or pefect the writing and production of an album (Generations).

The BAND placed money over the fans by not selling Generations on their own website when the tour started.

The BAND placed money over the fans by allowing ILAA to sell the tickets for the first 15 rows at their concerts at OUTRAGOUS prices. They could have found a better way.


When there is a choice between doing what is right for the fans, or taking in a paycheck....Journey ALWAYS takes the paycheck. It's obvious.

[Crazie Scarab]

The FANS no longer matter...Only the money matters. THAT much is obvious.

Without the fans, there's no money. What the hell are you talking about?

Let's pretend the tape scandal and everything Dean and TNC accuse Journey of is absolute 100% FACT.

They are playing with the fans on BT by dragging out the news.

In fact, they are playing with ALL of the fans by not talking about ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. They are on one of the most successful tours around and how many interviews have they done?

The BAND screwed the fans over on the LAST tour by lip-synching vocals.

The BAND screwed the fans over by how they handled replacing Augeri by replacing him while many of the dates were already on sale.

Then there are the things I said in other posts:

The BAND placed money over best interest by not taking time out from touring to complete a full album (Red 13) or pefect the writing and production of an album (Generations).

The BAND placed money over the fans by not selling Generations on their own website when the tour started.

The BAND placed money over the fans by allowing ILAA to sell the tickets for the first 15 rows at their concerts at OUTRAGOUS prices. They could have found a better way.


When there is a choice between doing what is right for the fans, or taking in a paycheck....Journey ALWAYS takes the paycheck. It's obvious.

STILL! Without the fans, there's no money. Sure, they're taking a risk by not doing things the way you think they should be done. But, the bottom line is, "without the fans, there's no money." Simple economics, bro.

[Barb]

Def Leppard isn't a 'supporting act'. If anything, Journey is.

It sure didn't feel like that to me when I saw them. A friend from work went with a bunch of her friends who were going to see Def Leppard and they all thought Journey was better and more fun to watch than DL. I know I was bored when DL came on.

[Crazie Scarab]

Def Leppard isn't a 'supporting act'. If anything, Journey is.

It sure didn't feel like that to me when I saw them. A friend from work went with a bunch of her friends who were going to see Def Leppard and they all thought Journey was better and more fun to watch than DL. I know I was bored when DL came on.

DL rocked! However, Journey kicked ass!

[The Ghost Rider]

It sure didn't feel like that to me when I saw them. A friend from work went with a bunch of her friends who were going to see Def Leppard and they all thought Journey was better and more fun to watch than DL. I know I was bored when DL came on.

Regardless of which band (on ANY tour) a particular person came to see, or likes the most...the "supporting acts" play first and the "headliner" plays last. On this tour, Def Leppard is the headliner and Journey is the opening act. No matter who plays better, or whether you like it or not, that's just a fact.



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[FormerJrnyFan]

It sure didn't feel like that to me when I saw them. A friend from work went with a bunch of her friends who were going to see Def Leppard and they all thought Journey was better and more fun to watch than DL. I know I was bored when DL came on.

Regardless of which band (on ANY tour) a particular person came to see, or likes the most...the "supporting acts" play first and the "headliner" plays last. On this tour, Def Leppard is the headliner and Journey is the opening act. No matter who plays better, or whether you like it or not, that's just a fact.



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Holy crap... it's after midnight... that explains things

[Crazie Scarab]

Regardless of which band (on ANY tour) a particular person came to see, or likes the most...the "supporting acts" play first and the "headliner" plays last. On this tour, Def Leppard is the headliner and Journey is the opening act. No matter who plays better, or whether you like it or not, that's just a fact.



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Cool with me! Journey plays first. DL goes on after & halfway through DL's set I make a bee line to the parking lot & jump on the freeway within minutes! Not a problem!

[The Ghost Rider]

Don't misunderatand me...I've seen the opening band blow the headliner off the stage many times. I was merely stating (or re-stating) a fact. I think it's bullshit that Journey is opening for Def Leppard. I guess they must be making a shitload of money. I hope it is worth it. Journey should not be opening for anyone. And I'm still surprised they agreed to it.......

[Crazie Scarab]

Don't misunderatand me...I've seen the opening band blow the headliner off the stage many times. I was merely stating (or re-stating) a fact. I think it's bullshit that Journey is opening for Def Leppard. I guess they must be making a shitload of money. I hope it is worth it. Journey should not be opening for anyone. And I'm still surprised they agreed to it.......

A review:

I'm a die hard DL fan. Have been for over 25 years. This concert was probably my 10+ of seeing them. I have to admit Journey gave them a running for the money. On some of the songs it was hard to hear Joe. Like with me age is showing and some of those high notes aren't coming so easy anymore. Journey gave any excellent concert. Last time I seen them was 82. Impressed with JS. but Dean kicked ass. I must say that Journey should not be considered the open act but equal billing. Thanks for rocking my world.
- Heather
Auburn, WA
(8:07:31 pm PDT - September 1, 2006)

[The Ghost Rider]

Well, I agree...they should have "equal billing" at the least. But they don't. Journey has a smaller stage, fewer lights, etc. Opening band. Period.

[Crazie Scarab]

Well, I agree...they should have "equal billing" at the least. But they don't. Journey has a smaller stage, fewer lights, etc. Opening band. Period.

Yeah.. it appeared that way.. However, that was a perspective from a self-proclamed DL fan I just shared with you.

[Clasicrockldy]

Regardless of which band (on ANY tour) a particular person came to see, or likes the most...the "supporting acts" play first and the "headliner" plays last. On this tour, Def Leppard is the headliner and Journey is the opening act. No matter who plays better, or whether you like it or not, that's just a fact.



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Cool with me! Journey plays first. DL goes on after & halfway through DL's set I make a bee line to the parking lot & jump on the freeway within minutes! Not a problem!

I hear ya Crazie............ My daughter and I left before the end of the DL set. One reason was she was really tired, and two.... beat the damn crowd out of the parking lot !

[Andrew]

TNC - I'm a fruity fucker eh? That's funny as hell.

Now, in regards to this talk of blank postings etc etc...

WTF are you talking about???

Haha...I have no idea what you guys are talking about - if ya got a question - ask it - I'll do my best to answer, but I have no idea about these blank posts...someone will have to referesh my memory.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Def Leppard isn't a 'supporting act'. If anything, Journey is.

Your splitting anal hairs.
Co-headliner, supporting act - what have you.
The point is that the next tour Journey will not be on the road alone AGAIN.

Gee, I thought they were going to record an album?

Where did I rule that out?

They are going to go on tour again?

You gotta strike while the iron's hot- that sounds Herbie-esque, no?
Journey will be coming off one of their must succesfull post-Perry tours yet.
You think they're not gonna capitalize on that in someway?

They are probably well on their way to planning the next tour.

So?
That is how these people make their livelihood.
As usual, you sound like a selfish bastard.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Let's pretend the tape scandal and everything Dean and TNC accuse Journey of is absolute 100% FACT.

What about famed melodic artist, Michael St. Allen, who was talking of the tape scandal long before Dean.
What about our very own would-be journalist, Bionic, who says multiple sources have confirmed everything.
What about impartial music tech, Svante, who also corrorborated what Dean had been saying.
Try as you will, you cannot marginalize the truth, naysayer.

[Rockindeano]

Don't misunderatand me...I've seen the opening band blow the headliner off the stage many times. I was merely stating (or re-stating) a fact. I think it's bullshit that Journey is opening for Def Leppard. I guess they must be making a shitload of money. I hope it is worth it. Journey should not be opening for anyone. And I'm still surprised they agreed to it.......

Dude, they had to sign on as opening act, because of Augeri....You think Neal would say yes to opening this tour if he had Jeff in place? Not a chance.

[The Ghost Rider]

Dude, they had to sign on as opening act, because of Augeri....You think Neal would say yes to opening this tour if he had Jeff in place? Not a chance.

Then why did they agree to extend the tour after Jeff took over...under the same conditions (smaller stage, lights, etc.)?

[Red13JoePa]

Don't misunderatand me...I've seen the opening band blow the headliner off the stage many times. I was merely stating (or re-stating) a fact. I think it's bullshit that Journey is opening for Def Leppard. I guess they must be making a shitload of money. I hope it is worth it. Journey should not be opening for anyone. And I'm still surprised they agreed to it.......

Dude, they had to sign on as opening act, because of Augeri....You think Neal would say yes to opening this tour if he had Jeff in place? Not a chance.

Woa, woa, woa..... Neal's not calling the shots, right? He wanted Augie out long ago and couldn't get his way right?

[Citygirl]

I seem to remember going to a JSS gig in Newcastle a year ago and 50% of the setlist was Journey songs.

Things that make ya go hmmmmm........

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dude, they had to sign on as opening act, because of Augeri....You think Neal would say yes to opening this tour if he had Jeff in place? Not a chance.

It was due to the Augeri-era's continued financial viability that Journey could broker this deal with Def in the first place.
If Augeri was gone from the start of the tour, I'd imagine that would put Journey in an even more subordinate position to DefLeppard, not less.
Why would Def risk sharing the stage with an unproven entity?