Augeri in Holmdel - bad form?

[styxman]

Why dont we just ask JSS what the deal is hes lurking here day and night he should be able to put this question to rest.

What ask him if Augi's going be in the Disney Parade

[YoungJRNYfan]

Why are you getting so defensive?

I'm not.
So why are you beginning to drop a deuce in your spandex biking shorts?
- Does my EXTREME posting style intimidate you, sailor boy?

Lets fuckin face it..Jeff Scott Soto is a great vocalist. He has done a superb job in filling in on a big tour like this. BUT HE ISN'T THE MAN FOR JOURNEY.

Only if u promise to face up to the fact that Augeri had been recieving "enhancements" in concert since The Main Event tour(if not earlier).

He simply can't sing Journey songs the right way. Why do you think Castranova have been singing 2-3 songs during the tour? Because Soto doesn't have the sound to sing certain songs, or the range. He is a backup.

And at the moment, Augeri hasn't the range to sing ANY Journey songs.
Also, utilizing Deen is to foresightedly take the strain off the lead vocalist, something that might've extended Augeri's Journey career had it been employed earlier.

Augeri is Journey...and the reason why we can even have these conversations.

No one man is Journey.
If one man is Journey it is most likely Neal or Herbie.

Besides, Soto has his own thing, and own bands to tend to..

Hmmm.
Let's see...
Journey
or
Talisman (who?).
Pretty tough choice for an aspiring rock star to make there.

No, I'm not intimidate by your posts on the internet, if I was I would of never responded to you. Im stating my opinion, You're stating yours. I'm not knocking Soto in anyway, because I like him. But this is his first tour with Journey and singing the Journey songs each night. His voice sounds raspy at times...or maybe even shakey at the notes. It's just what I hear, and we ALL know Journey songs are possibly the hardest songs to sing. Augeri has been doing tours for so long, yes it's gonna take a toll on his voice, that's the whole reason why he had to use a system.

You think Augeri is the only one using a system? Give me a break. Def Leppard is reportedly using tapes as well. As for Deen....Why are they using him more on the vocals now for Soto, other than Augeri...hmmm...maybe because Soto is struggling hitting the Vocals. His voice is too low and out of shape for certain songs.

I wasn't saying Augeri is Journey as a WHOLE, but, what he has had to over come in replacing a legend, and remain with the band for years and years, he is the voice of Journey in THIS DAY IN AGE.

Whatever happens, happens. We don't know what the hell is going on, besides Journey is still rockin' and that's all that counts.

[The_Noble_Cause]

His voice sounds raspy at times...or maybe even shakey at the notes. It's just what I hear, and we ALL know Journey songs are possibly the hardest songs to sing. Augeri has been doing tours for so long, yes it's gonna take a toll on his voice, that's the whole reason why he had to use a system.

Great, so now you're on record stating that both Augeri and Soto suck equally.
What exactly was your argument again?

You think Augeri is the only one using a system? Give me a break. Def Leppard is reportedly using tapes as well.

I am not a Def fan so I couldn't give two shits.
Their fans should be as equally passionate as Journeys' and go do something about it.
Start a blog, perhaps.

As for Deen....Why are they using him more on the vocals now for Soto, other than Augeri...hmmm...maybe because Soto is struggling hitting the Vocals. His voice is too low and out of shape for certain songs.

How young are you, YoungJRNYfan?
Are you so young that you haven't been taught to read yet?
See, I could've sworn I answered this identical question in my last post.

I wasn't saying Augeri is Journey as a WHOLE, but, what he has had to over come in replacing a legend, and remain with the band for years and years, he is the voice of Journey in THIS DAY IN AGE.

He hasn't replaced a legend.
The bonanza success of this Augeri-less tour only proves that.
As Chalfant has said, "you can't replace legends."
People come to hear the catalog no matter who is singing and always will.

We don't know what the hell is going on, besides Journey is still rockin' and that's all that counts.

Not according to your posts.
Your pissy attitude seems to be "Augeri or bust."

[StyxCollector]

Maybe he just wanted to go to the concert to have a good time, check in with his bandmates, and wish JSS well.

Wanting to see folks like Deen who I'm sure he genuinely gets along with, I can believe that. I don't believe for one minute Mr. Schon was loving having him there. And as the supposed lead singer (sic) of Journey, how would you feel if you saw someone else belting out your tunes for 90 minutes when you were not able to? That would be like Dennis DeYoung or Steve Perry going to see the current lineups of their respective bands. Granted, SA never sang most of the songs originally, but you get the idea.

He is a part of Journey still, like it or not. He has every right to be there if he wants to.

I think if certain people in the Journey camp (and we all know who I'm referring to) would have had their way, they would have somehow banned him from showing up or made it so no fans saw him. Him showing up causes more problems than it's worth.

His appearance speaks volumes as far as his association with the band and his relationship to ALL of them. He is a genuinely nice person, and it would seem that he gets along well with everyone. By going to the concert and making a public appearance like that, he may be saying......"I didn't do anything I shouldn't have done, my bandmates are in full support of me."

The only people who seem to actually HATE this man are the very few who post here on this board.
Yeah, that will teach him.

I don't hate SA. I like some of his work with Journey. But, by going he basically was damned if he went and damned if he didn't. At least people know he's alive, so that speculation can end that he's holed up somewhere in a fetal position. I just think it was a bad move that will only further drive the nail into his coffin. He should have had more discretion or done something to meet the guys, say, at a hotel.

EDIT: I agree it was a power play move which will backfire on him. Horribly.

[Clasicrockldy]

Hasn't Deen been singing at least one to three songs while Augeri was still in the band? What about Mother, Father, Still They Ride, and maybe some others Steve A couldn't do? So it isn't new thing to have Deen sing two or three songs during a concert while JSS is in the band.

[Cantbleeveit]

And as the supposed lead singer (sic) of Journey, how would you feel if you saw someone else belting out your tunes for 90 minutes when you were not able to?

Oh, come on!! These are grown men we are talking about here!! Professionals. I truly believe Steve Augeri can handle JSS singing Journey in his absence. The man is not five years old!!

I think if certain people in the Journey camp (and we all know who I'm referring to) would have had their way, they would have somehow banned him from showing up or made it so no fans saw him. Him showing up causes more problems than it's worth.

BANNED HIM FROM SHOWING UP??? Who would ban him??? Journey management?? LOL. Last time I had a chance to look around, this was still a free country. You cannot BAN anyone from going to a concert, unless they did jail time, maybe. Steve Augeri has EVERY right to show up at a concert. He may even show up at the next one!! Oh, the injustice of it all!!

[StyxCollector]

Oh, come on!! These are grown men we are talking about here!! Professionals. I truly believe Steve Augeri can handle JSS singing Journey in his absence. The man is not five years old!!

OK. Let's say you go out on short term disability. Someone steps in and fills in for you at your job. You're feeling better so you go in, but Joe Replacement is still doing your job and they like him - all of a sudden you start to feel like the outsider. You're telling me you wouldn't feel anything? It wouldn't be a big deal? Come on. JOurney lined up a major summer tour that could have gone down in flames if JSS didn't step in. Talk about bad press! The whole Augeri thing has thrown a cloud over them that seemed to have lifted.

Now we're going to have speculation out the wazoo of when SA is coming back. He's not.

BANNED HIM FROM SHOWING UP??? Who would ban him??? Journey management?? LOL. Last time I had a chance to look around, this was still a free country. You cannot BAN anyone from going to a concert, unless they did jail time, maybe. Steve Augeri has EVERY right to show up at a concert. He may even show up at the next one!! Oh, the injustice of it all!!

You apparently never heard the infamous story of Jack Blades and Tommy Shaw (when they were in DY) showing up at one of the 1991 Styx shows that had GB. They showed up unannounced. Long story short, lots of misunderstandings happened that ultimately got ironed out, but if SA showed up on his own without telling anyone (which I believe he most likely did), that's just stupid. It really is. As an American does he have a right to show up? Sure. Was it a smart move? I would say no. Axl had Slash banned from a G'n'R concert.

Neal wants this to go away. Him showing up fuels the fires that have died down and pretty much gone away. Journey can do what they want - if they had such a tight leash on him, they could have prevented him from showing up. Apparently their leash isn't very tight.

My point tho was that he could have had much more discretion in how he chose to "come out". He didn't.

[Abitaman]

I think it is good Augeri showed up. They should have asked him to come out and take a bow.
If Augeri is out of the band, so be it. Personally I liked him and his work, and would like to see him give it another try. Nothing against JSS, he has proved to me (at least live) that he can handle Joureny if things were to fall thru again with Augeri.
If Augeri doesn't come back, I would go for JSS (KC, I always wanted in the band, ever since Perry left), like I said, live he can do. Hopefully on cd he can keep the Journey sound, but the more I listen to him, I think he would do good, even great. He is agreat frontman.
But, I would still like Augeri to be given a try again. Like I have said, I do not belive tape gate, sure he may have had some help here and there, a lot of singer now a days do. Augeri should be given the chance to prove him self, and if he can't he do it, he can't. Don't beat the man up over it.

The big difference I have seen in Augeri as compared to Perry or JSS, he didn't take the reins on his vocals, he was laid back to much, trying to be Perry and not himself. What I love about his Tyketto and Tall Stories cds were, that he was hisself. He came in trying to sound like Perry, be like Perry (NO ONE CAN DO THAT), JSS is bing hisself, and making the music that they have his. Augeri tried to make the old songs his by being like Perry. If he didn't the uprising that would have caused. But now is voice is on the outs because he didn't say I can't do it this way, lets do it another way. JSS I hope you don't shot your voice by trying to be a Perry, so far I like what I have seen and heard.

that is my say on the matter. Either way putting Augeri down isn't going to change anything, or make anything better-ERIC

[RossValoryRocks]

but if SA showed up on his own without telling anyone (which I believe he most likely did),

Actually they knew he was coming to the show. So you are wrong here.

[SteveForever]

Oh, come on!! These are grown men we are talking about here!! Professionals. I truly believe Steve Augeri can handle JSS singing Journey in his absence. The man is not five years old!!

OK. Let's say you go out on short term disability. Someone steps in and fills in for you at your job. You're feeling better so you go in, but Joe Replacement is still doing your job and they like him - all of a sudden you start to feel like the outsider. You're telling me you wouldn't feel anything? It wouldn't be a big deal? Come on. JOurney lined up a major summer tour that could have gone down in flames if JSS didn't step in. Talk about bad press! The whole Augeri thing has thrown a cloud over them that seemed to have lifted.

Now we're going to have speculation out the wazoo of when SA is coming back. He's not.

BANNED HIM FROM SHOWING UP??? Who would ban him??? Journey management?? LOL. Last time I had a chance to look around, this was still a free country. You cannot BAN anyone from going to a concert, unless they did jail time, maybe. Steve Augeri has EVERY right to show up at a concert. He may even show up at the next one!! Oh, the injustice of it all!!

You apparently never heard the infamous story of Jack Blades and Tommy Shaw (when they were in DY) showing up at one of the 1991 Styx shows that had GB. They showed up unannounced. Long story short, lots of misunderstandings happened that ultimately got ironed out, but if SA showed up on his own without telling anyone (which I believe he most likely did), that's just stupid. It really is. As an American does he have a right to show up? Sure. Was it a smart move? I would say no. Axl had Slash banned from a G'n'R concert.

Neal wants this to go away. Him showing up fuels the fires that have died down and pretty much gone away. Journey can do what they want - if they had such a tight leash on him, they could have prevented him from showing up. Apparently their leash isn't very tight.

My point tho was that he could have had much more discretion in how he chose to "come out". He didn't.

Hey Styx, no argument, but if they are not in 'transition' then why would it matter? I mean if they indeed have hired JSS-which they most likely have or why else would they have put out professional photos like the ones taken at Red Rock....and everything is ironed out now, what's wrong with a bud coming out to support his peeps? maybe he's cool with everything, cool with JSS at the new singer and no hard feelings?

[StyxCollector]

I think it is good Augeri showed up. They should have asked him to come out and take a bow.

I'd love to see that ... focus in on Neal, please.

[StyxCollector]

but if SA showed up on his own without telling anyone (which I believe he most likely did),

Actually they knew he was coming to the show. So you are wrong here.

So I'm wrong here. Big deal. I just think with all of the speculation flying around here and over at BT he could have handled it better and, say, stayed backstage. Whatever happens from here on out, it's going to make things a tad worse than better IMHO

[StyxCollector]

Hey Styx, no argument, but if they are not in 'transition' then why would it matter? I mean if they indeed have hired JSS-which they most likely have or why else would they have put out professional photos like the ones taken at Red Rock....and everything is ironed out now, what's wrong with a bud coming out to support his peeps? maybe he's cool with everything, cool with JSS at the new singer and no hard feelings?

Then make the announcement that SA is gone and be done with it. They're keeping hope alive for some folks which I think is cruel. Maybe SA has no problem with it and he knows, but why prolong the agony? It just makes no sense other than they don't want a revolt on their own message boards.

[Mandi]

You all make very valid points. I am just wondering, if the reason they haven't made an official announcement yet is because this current tour is so successful. We know whats going on here, but I would guess that most of the crowds in attendance at the shows, and many who already have tickets purchased, are unaware of the lead singer change up. If they made a formal announcement, it could affect the tour. Keeping quiet is just good business sense, IMO

RossValloryRocks: Do you think Steve (and probably Lydia) will go to Mohegan? I know they love that place. I do.

Mandi

[jrnyjetster]

Don't be so literal.
Steve could ONLY be friends with Neal's illegal mexican gardener and still get backstage.
The point is, being backstage isn't demonstrative proof that Augeri is on good terms with all of his bandmates (as "Cantbleeveit" would misguidedly have u believe).

Noble, who's to say YOU aren't MISGUIDING? Cripes...you and Deano are something else!

[StyxCollector]

You all make very valid points. I am just wondering, if the reason they haven't made an official announcement yet is because this current tour is so successful. We know whats going on here, but I would guess that most of the crowds in attendance at the shows, and many who already have tickets purchased, are unaware of the lead singer change up. If they made a formal announcement, it could affect the tour. Keeping quiet is just good business sense, IMO

Exactly, but the reality is most of the people showing up don't even know Steve Perry is gone. They could care less - if they hear the dirty dozen, they're happy. It's the 5% of the fans on the internet at sites like this or over at BT which scream the loudest but make up a small % of overall ticket sales. These guys are not clueless at some level that they need to ensure repeat revenue (i.e. do something for the die hard), but cater to that casual "I like some Journey songs and some Def Lep songs, let's go to a concert" crowd.

We will always be the minority.

[Clasicrockldy]

And as the supposed lead singer (sic) of Journey, how would you feel if you saw someone else belting out your tunes for 90 minutes when you were not able to?

His songs? Wait a minute here, there isn't any Augeri songs being sung on this tour, so how could the songs be Augeri's? Explain that one.

[YoungJRNYfan]

His voice sounds raspy at times...or maybe even shakey at the notes. It's just what I hear, and we ALL know Journey songs are possibly the hardest songs to sing. Augeri has been doing tours for so long, yes it's gonna take a toll on his voice, that's the whole reason why he had to use a system.

Great, so now you're on record stating that both Augeri and Soto suck equally.
What exactly was your argument again?

You think Augeri is the only one using a system? Give me a break. Def Leppard is reportedly using tapes as well.

I am not a Def fan so I couldn't give two shits.
Their fans should be as equally passionate as Journeys' and go do something about it.
Start a blog, perhaps.

As for Deen....Why are they using him more on the vocals now for Soto, other than Augeri...hmmm...maybe because Soto is struggling hitting the Vocals. His voice is too low and out of shape for certain songs.

How young are you, YoungJRNYfan?
Are you so young that you haven't been taught to read yet?
See, I could've sworn I answered this identical question in my last post.

I wasn't saying Augeri is Journey as a WHOLE, but, what he has had to over come in replacing a legend, and remain with the band for years and years, he is the voice of Journey in THIS DAY IN AGE.

He hasn't replaced a legend.
The bonanza success of this Augeri-less tour only proves that.
As Chalfant has said, "you can't replace legends."
People come to hear the catalog no matter who is singing and always will.

We don't know what the hell is going on, besides Journey is still rockin' and that's all that counts.

Not according to your posts.
Your pissy attitude seems to be "Augeri or bust."

Not one sentence in any of my posts where I said Augeri or Soto sucked. Show me where I said that. There are numerous posts from me on this board praising Soto for his performances. Argument or not.. Im stating my point is that Soto isn't a Journey sound, and Augeri did nothing to lose his job. I can see if his voice is that badly damaged and career ending. Soto is worthy stepping in as proved.

I'm just making a reference in defense of not only AUGERI, but for Journey themselves. Def Leppard was a reference as if saying, "hey, Journey isn't the only band that needed a system for their lead singer, they all use it, period."

I wasn't asking the same question again, I got what you were saying but blew it off as your rambling and bitching about this topic grows. After all, you did start this discussion. Seems your too stubborn to realize anything other than you hate SA and that's it period. That's just the vibe I'm getting.

Augeri or bust? What the hell are you talking about. That's not my statement at all. My statement period is that Augeri is still the lead singer of Journey AS WE SPEAK, and deserves to be until further announcement on Augeri and his condition. If the condition is that serious. Welcome JSS. Either way, the Journey will continue. Theres no use going back and forth

[StyxCollector]

And as the supposed lead singer (sic) of Journey, how would you feel if you saw someone else belting out your tunes for 90 minutes when you were not able to?

His songs? Wait a minute here, there isn't any Augeri songs being sung on this tour, so how could the songs be Augeri's? Explain that one.

That was my quote - the songs he was paid to sing. Should have qualified. They I think did do FITH or something from Generations once or twice with JSS, but that's it.

Trust me, there's no confusing SA for SP. SA prolonged the life of the band, but like Perry, he had his time. At least Perry bowed out and stayed out of the public eye pretty much. If SA makes more guest appearances, I think people's heads will explode.

[Clasicrockldy]

And as the supposed lead singer (sic) of Journey, how would you feel if you saw someone else belting out your tunes for 90 minutes when you were not able to?

His songs? Wait a minute here, there isn't any Augeri songs being sung on this tour, so how could the songs be Augeri's? Explain that one.

That was my quote - the songs he was paid to sing. Should have qualified. They I think did do FITH or something from Generations once or twice with JSS, but that's it.

Trust me, there's no confusing SA for SP. SA prolonged the life of the band, but like Perry, he had his time. At least Perry bowed out and stayed out of the public eye pretty much. If SA makes more guest appearances, I think people's heads will explode.

Thanks for clearing that up StyxCollector. I thought it was the other persons post. :D

[Matthew]

Oh, come on!! These are grown men we are talking about here!! Professionals. I truly believe Steve Augeri can handle JSS singing Journey in his absence. The man is not five years old!!

I don't share your disbelief that professional musicians can be competetive with each other...but I can't see Augeri pulling off a "power-play".

Throughout his time in Journey he seems to have been this affable guy who does what he's told and who has never moved beyond the gratitude stage re: being hired by Journey.

It seems entirely possible to me that he'd show up at a Journey show just to hang out...even after getting fired. And would the band mind? Probably not.

Perry would terrify them if he showed up because he had backbone and charisma and was the master of the power-play. Whereas Augeri is a likeable hired hand who lives down the road....

[Mandi]

If I remember correctly, didn't Neal invite Steve Perry and the other past members of Journey to join the band on stage, during the Generations tour?

Why would he do this if the concept of Steve Perry showing up, terrified him? Is Mr. Perry known to be such a monster? I was a casual fan of that era, so I don't know much about Steve Perry, other than the fact that his voice is unlike any other on the face of the earth. In a good way, of course.

Sorry, I don't mean to be so stupid but I find the inner workings of this band to be very complex and interesting.
I also can't understand the idea of Steve Augeri being a threat to the band. He couldn't mean any harm, even if he is fired (I tend to believe he is NOT), he can still maintain friendships with the band and remain on good terms with them, and even remain a fan of theirs. I do remember hearing that he is very much in awe of Mr. Schon and his immense talent.

Mandi

[Matthew]

If I remember correctly, didn't Neal invite Steve Perry and the other past members of Journey to join the band on stage, during the Generations tour?

Why would he do this if the concept of Steve Perry showing up, terrified him?

Mandi - do you really think Schon expected Perry to actually show up on the Generations tour?

[Mandi]

Well, Matthew, I guess I would have to say, no to that. He probably issued the invitation knowing it would never be accepted. However, can any of us imagine what it would have started if Mr. Perry took Neal up on his offer??

We would be talking about a lot more than just Steve Augeri here.

Mandi

[Matthew]

Well, Matthew, I guess I would have to say, no to that. He probably issued the invitation knowing it would never be accepted. However, can any of us imagine what it would have started if Mr. Perry took Neal up on his offer??

We would be talking about a lot more than just Steve Augeri here.

Mandi

Yes, I agree. A Perry appearance at a Journey show would be huge news...on the internet sites, anyway.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Not one sentence in any of my posts where I said Augeri or Soto sucked. Show me where I said that.

So u didn't say "sucked" in so many words.
But u didn't really have to.
U say JSS doesn't cut the mustard for Journey.
Then u say the catalog has taken a toll on Augeri's pipes.
Is there any Journey singer that does meet your haughty standards, u dainty pampered mademoiselle?

I can see if his voice is that badly damaged and career ending.

No, they simply went to tape and cheated scores of fans nightly because they felt like it.
Somedays you wake up and just plain want to fuck with people.

Def Leppard was a reference as if saying, "hey, Journey isn't the only band that needed a system for their lead singer, they all use it, period."

Journey is better than most bands.
I expect better from them.
If your musical standards are circling the shit bowel, that's your peroragative.

I wasn't asking the same question again, I got what you were saying but blew it off as your rambling and bitching about this topic grows.

You wanted to know why Deen is singing more than previously.
I answered you TWICE.
Return your copy of "hooked on phonics" to the store and demand a full refund.
It ain't working.

Seems your too stubborn to realize anything other than you hate SA and that's it period.

Typical ideologue tactic.
Perrynutbags used to do the same thing.
Dare to say so much as a non-cheerleader comment about their idol (in this case, SA) and I'm painted as a hater.
I bet I know more about SA and his music than you could ever hope to aspire to.

My statement period is that Augeri is still the lead singer of Journey AS WE SPEAK, and deserves to be until further announcement on Augeri and his condition. If the condition is that serious. Welcome JSS. Either way, the Journey will continue. Theres no use going back and forth

So you're happy that JSS is here, but unhappy because he doesn't have the Journey sound, and yet at the same time you hope Augeri returns while simultaneously acknowledging that his voice has been damaged.
Way to be everything to everybody.
Go into politics.

[The_Noble_Cause]

If I remember correctly, didn't Neal invite Steve Perry and the other past members of Journey to join the band on stage, during the Generations tour?

Why would he do this if the concept of Steve Perry showing up, terrified him?

I said Neal and Co. would be pissed and/or terrified if Perry showed up during one of their first non-Perry fronted tours.
By the time of the 30th anniversary Generations tour, the new lineup had already proven it was a commericially viable touring enterprise without Perry.
JSS is trying to find his niche within this band and to endear himself with the fans.
The re-mergence of the frontman he recently supplanted only befuddles matters needlessly.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Not one sentence in any of my posts where I said Augeri or Soto sucked. Show me where I said that.

So u didn't say "sucked" in so many words.
But u didn't really have to.
U say JSS doesn't cut the mustard for Journey.
Then u say the catalog has taken a toll on Augeri's pipes.
Is there any Journey singer that does meet your haughty standards, u dainty pampered mademoiselle?

I can see if his voice is that badly damaged and career ending.

No, they simply went to tape and cheated scores of fans nightly because they felt like it.
Somedays you wake up and just plain want to fuck with people.

Def Leppard was a reference as if saying, "hey, Journey isn't the only band that needed a system for their lead singer, they all use it, period."

Journey is better than most bands.
I expect better from them.
If your musical standards are circling the shit bowel, that's your peroragative.

I wasn't asking the same question again, I got what you were saying but blew it off as your rambling and bitching about this topic grows.

You wanted to know why Deen is singing more than previously.
I answered you TWICE.
Return your copy of "hooked on phonics" to the store and demand a full refund.
It ain't working.

Seems your too stubborn to realize anything other than you hate SA and that's it period.

Typical ideologue tactic.
Perrynutbags used to do the same thing.
Dare to say so much as a non-cheerleader comment about their idol (in this case, SA) and I'm painted as a hater.
I bet I know more about SA and his music than you could ever hope to aspire to.

My statement period is that Augeri is still the lead singer of Journey AS WE SPEAK, and deserves to be until further announcement on Augeri and his condition. If the condition is that serious. Welcome JSS. Either way, the Journey will continue. Theres no use going back and forth

So you're happy that JSS is here, but unhappy because he doesn't have the Journey sound, and yet at the same time you hope Augeri returns while simultaneously acknowledging that his voice has been damaged.
Way too be everything to everybody.
Go into politics.

I set no standards..anyone will do AS LONG AS IT KEEPS JOURNEY AROUND. You're not hearing me. What I'm saying is that both singers have their flaws. I didn't say JSS doesn't "cut the mustard for Journey" I said he doesn't have the Journey sound, but is capable for the job, and has PROVEN to with his energy and stage presence. You don't hear it and you're too busy trying to be a funny guy and come up with a funny line to make me look like an idiot. What's the use?

Once again..it was the bands descision to to tape, and "fuck with people" so you say. HAHA It happens in the business, deal with it.

You're right Journey is better than most bands, and my standards on them are just as high as yours. That's why we're here.

Again on the Deen question....lol.... The second time around I answered my own question, I wasn't asking for your sarcastic responses. And I know my hooked on phonics "AINT" workin'

I'm 18 years old. A Young Journey fan. I haven't been around, or a fan as long as you. I'm in no catagory of "Perry is my Idol, or Augeri is my idol, or Soto" My First concert was 2 months ago and saw J.S.S and loved him. But as soon as I purchased the 2001 DVD and more and more hearing about SA's concerts from people who saw him, I want to see him pretty bad, full voice healed. So no, I'm not bashing you as a hater, but you seem to the way you're comming off.

As for being everything to everybody...whatever you wanna call it, I'm still having fun getting to know the band and its growing stronger and stronger each day, and love exploring where they've been, until now. So yeah, I have a review over everything that the band is up against now. It's interesting. Main point is, hopefully whatever turns out, they will remain together for years to come.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm 18 years old. A Young Journey fan. I haven't been around, or a fan as long as you. I'm in no catagory of "Perry is my Idol, or Augeri is my idol, or Soto" My First concert was 2 months ago and saw J.S.S and loved him.

Okay. Perhaps I am being too intolerant and abrasive. Let's start again.....

But as soon as I purchased the 2001 DVD and more and more hearing about SA's concerts from people who saw him, I want to see him pretty bad, full voice healed. So no, I'm not bashing you as a hater, but you seem to the way you're comming off.

I have just seen alot and heard alot.
The 2001 dvd, as GREAT as it is, is not a fair representation of the Augeri-era.
Firstly, Augeri had yet to refine his stage presence and own the stage, and secondly, the vocals are too good.
The Vegas dvd adds to the lie that Augeri is the second coming of Perry.
He isn't.
Many times his vocals left alot to be desired.
The Vegas dvd leads u to believe that the man can sing like a bluejay.
The man was pitted against insurmountable odds and this pro-tooled dvd did nothing to dispell that.
I should know because I was one of the ones that was duped!
But no, I am not an Augeri-hater.

As for being everything to everybody...whatever you wanna call it, I'm still having fun getting to know the band and its growing stronger and stronger each day, and love exploring where they've been, until now. So yeah, I have a review over everything that the band is up against now. It's interesting. Main point is, hopefully whatever turns out, they will remain together for years to come.

Sorry for acting like the schooyard bully that pulverizes your face to take ur lunch money.
I guess I acted too fast.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I'm 18 years old. A Young Journey fan. I haven't been around, or a fan as long as you. I'm in no catagory of "Perry is my Idol, or Augeri is my idol, or Soto" My First concert was 2 months ago and saw J.S.S and loved him.

Okay. Perhaps I am being too intolerant and abrasive. Let's start again.....

But as soon as I purchased the 2001 DVD and more and more hearing about SA's concerts from people who saw him, I want to see him pretty bad, full voice healed. So no, I'm not bashing you as a hater, but you seem to the way you're comming off.

I have just seen alot and heard alot.
The 2001 dvd, as GREAT as it is, is not a fair representation of the Augeri-era.
Firstly, Augeri had yet to refine his stage presence and own the stage, and secondly, the vocals are too good.
The Vegas dvd adds to the lie that Augeri is the second coming of Perry.
He isn't.
Many times his vocals left alot to be desired.
The Vegas dvd leads u to believe that the man can sing like a bluejay.
The man was pitted against insurmountable odds and this pro-tooled dvd did nothing to dispell that.
I should know because I was one of the ones that was duped!
But no, I am not an Augeri-hater.

As for being everything to everybody...whatever you wanna call it, I'm still having fun getting to know the band and its growing stronger and stronger each day, and love exploring where they've been, until now. So yeah, I have a review over everything that the band is up against now. It's interesting. Main point is, hopefully whatever turns out, they will remain together for years to come.

Sorry for acting like the schooyard bully that pulverizes your face to take ur lunch money.
I guess I acted too fast.

LOL, Oh well, good discussion, man.