I don't buy the "big Journey comeback"

[larryfromnextdoor]

But for the record, I like BJ's Slippery When Wet and New Jersey albums...(no to dump on Jovi.)

KISS can't fill up a Pizza Hut parking lot.

now, was that neccesary ? no!!! freak

[Jeremey]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

[perryfaithful]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

Thanks Jeremy!

[Deb]

Glad you mentioned the 10 year disappearing act. That is when they lost their momentum on the music scene. The other bands that were mentioned earlier all kept churning out the music and doing tours. Whether it was good music or not it was constant. A duet with a woman would definitely all be on the woman's management and then she will probably be the big draw. Not Journey.

You're wrong. Jeff is a good looking guy. Well spoken and very smart.

Journey Mgt will be involved. A good duet song, moderate to rock with this person will be huge. The timing has to be right though. My guess is Journey will play the instruments. This will be fun to watch. This is my last tease.

I'm guessing Sheryl Crow!

[Shadowsong]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

The mighty Azoff
should let all contracts pass through a lawyers hands for approval
Perry earned his tenure
but after the fact
I would have hired a singer as an independent contractor.
A voice for hire
No strings attached
Like it
or
leave it

Turkey farm vs Gap

Hmmmmm
Gobble Gapper...

You can't gobble
will can ya

[Deb]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

Don't quite understand that one myself. Can't see this whole thing falling on Augeri.....if he was lipping they were all in on it. Augeri didn't hold the reins and control in this group, if anybody does it is Neal......and we all know who the tour hog is. If anything IMO Neal would have pushed to tour whether Augeri could sing or not and thats where the lipping came in. I mean it IS a business......if he couldn't sing as long as 2 years ago I don't know why they wouldn't have canned his ass and brought in someone instead of dragging it out.

[Monker]

Naw. Not at all. Just think though Monker, I have it and you don't. Hell, I have everything you want, and you cannot stand it.

Dude, you have nothing that I want. In fact, what you think you have that I want is stuff I DO NOT want. All of this 'stuff' that you hold as so highly important is stuff I couldn't care less about having in my life. Why would I want to bother with it?

[Rockindeano]

Naw. Not at all. Just think though Monker, I have it and you don't. Hell, I have everything you want, and you cannot stand it.

Dude, you have nothing that I want. In fact, what you think you have that I want is stuff I DO NOT want. All of this 'stuff' that you hold as so highly important is stuff I couldn't care less about having in my life. Why would I want to bother with it?

You're here, nightly, getting your ass beat in on a consistent basis.

Look, you used to be the "guy" but that no longer applies to you. I am sorry, I really am.

[Monker]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

Steve Perry. It's always his fault.

[Monker]

You're here, nightly, getting your ass beat in on a consistent basis.

Look, you used to be the "guy" but that no longer applies to you. I am sorry, I really am.

Dude, those things are important to YOU, not me....I couldn't care less.

[Just Mindy]

KISS can't fill up a Pizza Hut parking lot.

now, was that neccesary ? no!!! freak

Tell him, Larry

[Granny]

Naw. Not at all. Just think though Monker, I have it and you don't. Hell, I have everything you want, and you cannot stand it.

Dude, you have nothing that I want. In fact, what you think you have that I want is stuff I DO NOT want. All of this 'stuff' that you hold as so highly important is stuff I couldn't care less about having in my life. Why would I want to bother with it?

You're here, nightly, getting your ass beat in on a consistent basis.

Look, you used to be the "guy" but that no longer applies to you. I am sorry, I really am.

Deano- I'll say it again. He is jealous of you.

[larryfromnextdoor]

KISS can't fill up a Pizza Hut parking lot.

now, was that neccesary ? no!!! freak

Tell him, Larry

love kiss, but right now,, they would probably rent the pizza hut,, hire some look alike kiss guys toplay,, charge the fans 1k bucks each to meet the real band ,, listen to the fake band, sell coffee and perfume out of a kiss casket...while the kiss nuts fight about who had the coolest cod piece in 1975.. paul stanley still rocks though...... end of story...

[Monker]

Deano- I'll say it again. He is jealous of you.

Jealous of what?

[AR]

love kiss, but right now,, they would probably rent the pizza hut,, hire some look alike kiss guys toplay,, charge the fans 1k bucks each to meet the real band ,, listen to the fake band, sell coffee and perfume out of a kiss casket...while the kiss nuts fight about who had the coolest cod piece in 1975.. paul stanley still rocks though...... end of story...

Unfortunately, I know what you mean.

[Granny]

Deano- I'll say it again. He is jealous of you.

Jealous of what?

His knowledge of the band and intellect and writing ability!!!which you have none of!!

[FormerJrnyFan]

love kiss, but right now,, they would probably rent the pizza hut,, hire some look alike kiss guys toplay,, charge the fans 1k bucks each to meet the real band ,, listen to the fake band, sell coffee and perfume out of a kiss casket...while the kiss nuts fight about who had the coolest cod piece in 1975.. paul stanley still rocks though...... end of story...

Unfortunately, I know what you mean.

I think they could do Giants Stadium, no prob...

[AR]

I think they could do Giants Stadium, no prob...

They can play the outdoor venues and do about 10-12,000 on their own at this point most nights. (Which is good) Package tours they do great. They're the band I that I grew up on, but they aren't a band now, they are a "brand".

Check this out:

6/22/75
Charleston, WV

Kiss
Montrose
Journey

Attendence 8,348

The early incarnation of Journey played 5 shows with Kiss in 1975 (useless trivia)

[AR]

Might as well weigh in on the "Big Journey Comeback". In my eyes, it has already started.

[Monker]

Deano- I'll say it again. He is jealous of you.

Jealous of what?

His knowledge of the band and intellect and writing ability!!!which you have none of!!

Specificaly, what do you mean by "knowledge of the band"?

As for 'intellect', I have enough to more then get by in life. I don't need the brain the size of a planet. A small moon is nice enough.

He hasn't displayed much 'writing ability', IMO...No where NEAR enough for me to be jealous about. I'll put it this way - I doubt he'll ever be published. I can write when I want to, and I know I can be OK when I put the effort in it. Haven't been published...looked into it though, but haven't followed thorugh.

[Granny]

Might as well weigh in on the "Big Journey Comeback". In my eyes, it has already started.

Hooraaaayyyyy. I'm with you on that one. Unless this is their last hoorraaaah and will not tour again! which I don't believe.

[A Fire Inside]

Remember we also got served up a Grammy nomination with TBF.

Big fucking deal. Grammys mean nothing to fans.

Eh, just proving that TBF wasn't complete crap.

[A Fire Inside]

I just don't see Journey ever being accepted with anyone but Perry at the helm. For the record, I don't necessarily think Journey would become huge again if Perry were to re-join the band, either!

Agreed... with Soto they are Journey, but they will get the "What happened to Perry" questions all over again. The majority of listeners want DSB or nothing and I would bet money on that statement. And once they hear Perry now they will still be unhappy because he doesn't sound like DSB-Perry. It's a catch-22, people.

[A Fire Inside]

Glad you mentioned the 10 year disappearing act. That is when they lost their momentum on the music scene. The other bands that were mentioned earlier all kept churning out the music and doing tours. Whether it was good music or not it was constant. A duet with a woman would definitely all be on the woman's management and then she will probably be the big draw. Not Journey.

You're wrong. Jeff is a good looking guy. Well spoken and very smart.

Journey Mgt will be involved. A good duet song, moderate to rock with this person will be huge. The timing has to be right though. My guess is Journey will play the instruments. This will be fun to watch. This is my last tease.

A Journey duet with a woman? Thumbs down from me. As if Soto wasn't far enough removed from the classic sound...

[Matthew]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

Don't quite understand that one myself. Can't see this whole thing falling on Augeri.....if he was lipping they were all in on it. Augeri didn't hold the reins and control in this group, if anybody does it is Neal......and we all know who the tour hog is. If anything IMO Neal would have pushed to tour whether Augeri could sing or not and thats where the lipping came in. I mean it IS a business......if he couldn't sing as long as 2 years ago I don't know why they wouldn't have canned his ass and brought in someone instead of dragging it out.

I don't understand this either.

Deano - you've been totally against Azoff for ages - and rightly so in my opinion - but suddenly he's a good guy and it was Steve Augeri who prevented him from successfully managing the band?

Can you elaborate on this?

[FormerJrnyFan]

Glad you mentioned the 10 year disappearing act. That is when they lost their momentum on the music scene. The other bands that were mentioned earlier all kept churning out the music and doing tours. Whether it was good music or not it was constant. A duet with a woman would definitely all be on the woman's management and then she will probably be the big draw. Not Journey.

You're wrong. Jeff is a good looking guy. Well spoken and very smart.

Journey Mgt will be involved. A good duet song, moderate to rock with this person will be huge. The timing has to be right though. My guess is Journey will play the instruments. This will be fun to watch. This is my last tease.

A Journey duet with a woman? Thumbs down from me. As if Soto wasn't far enough removed from the classic sound...

Face the music AFI

[Matthew]

One more note of wisdom--if Perry can't sing, he should write songs with Neal and Jon-what a team they were! incredible tunes. Maybe Neal should consult with him before doing the next album!!!!!!!

The last time they wrote material with Perry, we got served up TBF...

How could you possibly want more?

How could you possibly not want more? It's still the best record they've recorded in the last decade by some distance...

[A Fire Inside]

I just can't comprehend that Augeri controlled the band for 8 years. The Mighty Azoff's hands were tied because Mr Humble & Gracious (who couldn't deliver the goods) kept the band from moving on. What kind of contracts would have prevented them from dumping his ass overboard and moving forward? And I know it's been said that Soul Sirkus wasn't allowed to succeed....Again, I just can't understand what powerful force would have stood in the way of making someone money?

Don't quite understand that one myself. Can't see this whole thing falling on Augeri.....if he was lipping they were all in on it. Augeri didn't hold the reins and control in this group, if anybody does it is Neal......and we all know who the tour hog is. If anything IMO Neal would have pushed to tour whether Augeri could sing or not and thats where the lipping came in. I mean it IS a business......if he couldn't sing as long as 2 years ago I don't know why they wouldn't have canned his ass and brought in someone instead of dragging it out.

THANK YOU for saying this!! I cannot see how Augeri was allegedly able to have management in the palm of his hand, and keeping the band from becoming better... without anyone having the power to fire him. I also cannot fathom Augeri proposing this year's tour - maybe he insisted that he stay on board by lipping, but I do agree the "old" guys were probably the driving force into this tour.

I just don't understand why they didn't fire him before this tour if everyone is supposedly so glad to be rid of him now.

[A Fire Inside]

His knowledge of the band and intellect and writing ability!!!which you have none of!!

Actually Monker is one of the most well-versed people in regards to Journey's history. He knows his stuff through the Augeri years.

[A Fire Inside]

A Journey duet with a woman? Thumbs down from me. As if Soto wasn't far enough removed from the classic sound...

Face the music AFI

Not sure what that's exactly supposed to mean, but I can guess based on your biases...