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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:06 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:As for an interview, Andrew, I would quit for life, if that guaranteed you an interview with this guy. Hear that, Lora?


I'd much rather have Andrew interview Herbie.
Someone has to set the record straight and clear the air on all the shit that has gone down lately.

Everyone in an official capacity has been a complete and utter fucking coward!

Neal, Jon, Ross, Irving and everyone else....u are all a bunch of pre-pubescent lily-livered twats.
What happened to your juevos, fellas?
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:08 pm

I don't care if Perry is cool or not....in a musical context....but I do care as aguy context, and I know Neal...Neal Schon is the COOLEST MOTHERFUCKER EVER. And I love that guy. He just epitomizes coolness......so does JSS. I am onboard with the NEW Journey. Hear that, Cain? That's right. let's go forward, full throttle.
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Postby Deb » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:10 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:
strungout wrote:
Rockin'Deano wrote:I HAVE met Steve perry. About 6 or 7 times. I have always said, as has Neal, he is the best ever...no one is saying he isn't the best singer, but as a person, I think the guy has issues.

Hey, what do I know, I am just a loud mouthed MR poster who affected change, but other than that, am hardly shit.

As for an interview, Andrew, I would quit for life, if that guaranteed you an interview with this guy. Hear that, Lora?


When was the last time you met him?


Jan. 21, 2005.


LOL, along with hundreds......I meant talked to, shot the shit with.
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Postby Angiekay » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:12 pm

strungout wrote::lol: This one is for the gals!!! :P :shock: :wink:

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Uh, I'm going to have to say, "no thank you". He just doesn't do it for me.....








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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:14 pm

Sorry, I loved what Perry brought to the table, and it was a lot to be sure, but as a good guy, it was nothing.

I will fight for Neal, Ross, Deeno and even Friga to the end.....
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:19 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:Sorry, I loved what Perry brought to the table, and it was a lot to be sure, but as a good guy, it was nothing.

I will fight for Neal, Ross, Deeno and even Friga to the end.....


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:19 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:I don't care if Perry is cool or not....in a musical context....but I do care as aguy context, and I know Neal...neal Schon is the COOLEST MOTHERFUCJER EVER. And I love that guy.


Then why doesn't he come out and admit the band's wrongdoing?
The guy is notorious for not veering away from even the most provocative of subjects, why should this be any different?

Tapegate has not only driven a stake through Neal's integrity as a musician, but as a fiery outspoken individual, as well.

Throwing caution to the wind, he'll gladly take a piss on Perry, he'll publicly rag on Meet-N'-Greets, but where is he now on this issue of utmost importance?

Admit the use of tapes already, you garden-gnome looking wet bandit!
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Postby Deb » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:20 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:Sorry, I loved what Perry brought to the table, and it was a lot to be sure, but as a good guy, it was nothing.

I will fight for Neal, Ross, Deeno and even Friga to the end.....


LOL, its a draw. :wink: I have nothing against Neal, Ross, Cain and especially JSS and Deen. Just don't happen to agree with ya that Perry is a prick. :twisted:
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:22 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rockin'Deano wrote:I don't care if Perry is cool or not....in a musical context....but I do care as aguy context, and I know Neal...neal Schon is the COOLEST MOTHERFUCJER EVER. And I love that guy.


Then why doesn't he come out and admit the band's wrongdoing?
The guy is notorious for not veering away from even the most provocative of subjects, why should this be any different?

Tapegate has not only driven a stake through Neal's integrity as a musician, but as a fiery outspoken individual, as well.

Throwing caution to the wind, he'll gladly take a piss on Perry, he'll publicly rag on Meet-N'-Greets, but where is he now on this issue of utmost importance?

Admit the use of tapes already, you garden-gnome looking wet bandit!


Because it's NOT smart to. Neal isn't stupid. he knows it's best to move on. Cannot we do the same?
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Postby frfksakes » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:22 pm

Hope you don't mind me sharing this Jeff!! But seems funny I found it tonight... kind of fits

(btw This was over at Back Talk. Interesting place. :wink: )

from JSS:

"Hey folks, here's my 1st official post that has nothing 2 do with Soul SirkUS...oops, it slipped! It's gonna be lengthy so fetch yourself a pot of 'Joe' & read....
I wanted 2 follow suit in what's normally discussed here, JOURNEY, in which I have limited stories/history up till recently since meeting & now working with Neal & Deen. This 1 is about the 1st time I ever met Steve, as in Perry. Recently, especially since the VH-1 Behind The Music, I've heard & read many blasts against Steve which are a bit disheartening...u never want your musical heroes 2 have any flaws &/or 4 anyone 2 talk smack....well, I'm sure this has all been discussed & debated here 4 years. I thought I would share with u all a positive side 2 the man, as I just mentioned above, very often in this business I have been let down by these so-called heroes...in this case, I wasn't!
For years, my influences & inspirations, as a singer have been very apparent 2 those who have followed my career, were/are Steve, Freddie Mercury, Terence Trent D'Arby & Sam Cooke. Listening 2 most of my recent works wouldn't necessarily give u this impression, especially since these guys are not in the same genre/category of music I have been recording through the years, but every once in a while, u hear the little 'isms' from all these cats, the same u most definitely hear in Steve's influence from Sam Cooke. I proudly pronounced Steve's influence on me in many an interview, but moreso on a particular album I recorded in 1990 with a band called Eyes, in which I recorded an a cappella vocal track called 'Somebody 2 Love' (if u have or find the album, u won't find the track listed, it was a 'ghost' track the label decided NOT 2 credit on the album...the song appears at the very end of the CD) which was very much in the vein of Steve & Sam Cooke. In the album's credits, I dedicated the song to my 'influence & inspiration....S Perry & Sam Cooke'.
Also around that time (1991), I was producing a young band from Boston called Flesh which featured 2 brothers from the band Extreme (Gary Cherone's little bro was the guitarist & Nuno Bettencourt's older brother was the singer...talk about the old switcheroo!!). During that time, Nuno was secretly meeting & writing with Steve, who was then compiling songs which would become FTLOSM, even though this collaborative effort did not make the cut. I was out of town when Nuno & Steve were, & 1 evening, they & the guys from Flesh all went out 4 dinner in which the conversation was turned 2 how Flesh were coming along in the studio. They mentioned they were in the working on songs 4 a recent major publishing deal they'd just signed & dropped my name as the person behind the console assisting them with the production. Of course at that time, Steve would have no clue who I was, especially being that I was only 5 years new into the scene & the most popular thing I had 2 date were 2 albums with Yngwie Malmsteen in '84 & '85...again, completely different genre from what Steve would ever put on his turntable (yes, we still had them then!). Now remember, Steve was part of We Are The World, the pop version of USA For Africa...Neal was on the heavy metal version, We're Stars, with Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Dio & yes, Yngwie Malmsteen!
In their conversation, the guys mentioned what a huge influence Steve & Sam Cooke were 2 me as a vocalist, so much that I credited them both on THIS particular album. He was so honored by this, someone mentioning him this way without ever meeting the person, he sent a message back with the guys 2 thank me 4 this, Of course, it was a proud moment 4 me that my name was even brought up from the guys, but just 2 know he appreciated it instead of shrugging it off was a compliment right back.
Fast forward 3 months later, Extreme were on tour opening 4 ZZ Top in the US, coming through LA, I went 2 the show with the Flesh guys, also having known the Extreme guys, so we could all hang. Backstage, the bassist from Flesh mentioned Steve was there & he would introduce us. During those moments, 1 realizes introductions like this can go 2 ways & the 2nd way...well, u'd rather not meet the person & leave the mystique alone. In my 20 years of singing professionally (4 the record just 2 keep my age in check, I am currently 38, once again the 'baby' in the new band, ha!!), I've never been 1 2 care about meeting celebrities, rock stars, etc., no one person really impresses me so much in life & I pretty much see everyone equally in this world, we all put our shoes on the same way & we all wipe our....u get the picture!!!! But there are exceptions, & the above singers I mentioned as influences, I knew I would love 2 someday meet & thank them 4 the gift they shared but also help mold me so I could 1 day share with others, Steve being 1 of them.
So we head towards Steve & right after the 'Jeff this is Steve, Steve this is Jeff...' formalities, Steve jokingly reaches 4 his wallet & said 'So you're Jeff...I think I owe u some money!' as in a payoff 4 the crediting on the album. I found that so cool of him, that he would be so humble, especially after a few times thanking me 4 the credit.
After some social gibberish, I asked Steve if there was an address I could send a copy of the CD 2 him so he could hear the a cappella I did as I thought he would like it....he gave me a manager's address scribbled on a napkin & we said so long. Some days later, I'm looking 4 this napkin only 2 find it a shribbled mess in my washing machine! I'd obviously 4gotten 2 remove it from my pants.
Fast forward 2 months, I was singing a few songs at an All Star Tribute show 4 the late Randy Rhoads (Ozzy) in LA, walking through the backstage area, low & behold, there's Steve!! I 1st decided 2 see if he remembered me without embarrassing myself, then proceeding 2 apologize 4 not sending the CD & then pry the address of his manager again. Of course he remembered me right off the bat which I then described the washer dilemma & I would like 2 still send the CD 2 him.....he shocked me by saying when he had not received it from me, he went out & BOUGHT it! Once again, very complimentary on the credit there, but then went on 2 say great vocals on the album & he loved the a cappella thing I had done. At 1st, I thought maybe he could just be saying it without having heard a note, but he brought up aspects & lyrics in the song that u can't pretend u know...he definitely heard it....a few times.The only thing(s) that has topped that moment in my life were singing with Queen a few years ago in LA & the birth of my son 16 years ago!
OK, now wake up, I'm done!!!! Sorry the story was so long, but the details are still in my head like it happened days ago so I wanted 2 recount it as well as share it all with u....anyone else outside THIS group, I would have been forced 2 offer the abridged version. 4 those of u who made it 2 the end, thanks 4 reading & hope u enjoyed this very human side of Steve that left an everlasting impression on his most ambitious apprentice. I have a feeling the Neal & Deen stories will have more humor involved, u know those guys! Jeff "
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Postby Andrew » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:26 pm

Steve rules :)

As far as intevriewing Herbie - sure, but he has had his say recently and as far as I'm concerned, Steve needs to have his say....if he so choses. Besides he remains an idol of mine and still one of the few people I'd sell my grandmother in order to interview :)
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:27 pm

frfksakes wrote:Hope you don't mind me sharing this Jeff!! But seems funny I found it tonight... kind of fits

(btw This was over at Back Talk. Interesting place. :wink: )

from JSS:

"Hey folks, here's my 1st official post that has nothing 2 do with Soul SirkUS...oops, it slipped! It's gonna be lengthy so fetch yourself a pot of 'Joe' & read....
I wanted 2 follow suit in what's normally discussed here, JOURNEY, in which I have limited stories/history up till recently since meeting & now working with Neal & Deen. This 1 is about the 1st time I ever met Steve, as in Perry. Recently, especially since the VH-1 Behind The Music, I've heard & read many blasts against Steve which are a bit disheartening...u never want your musical heroes 2 have any flaws &/or 4 anyone 2 talk smack....well, I'm sure this has all been discussed & debated here 4 years. I thought I would share with u all a positive side 2 the man, as I just mentioned above, very often in this business I have been let down by these so-called heroes...in this case, I wasn't!
For years, my influences & inspirations, as a singer have been very apparent 2 those who have followed my career, were/are Steve, Freddie Mercury, Terence Trent D'Arby & Sam Cooke. Listening 2 most of my recent works wouldn't necessarily give u this impression, especially since these guys are not in the same genre/category of music I have been recording through the years, but every once in a while, u hear the little 'isms' from all these cats, the same u most definitely hear in Steve's influence from Sam Cooke. I proudly pronounced Steve's influence on me in many an interview, but moreso on a particular album I recorded in 1990 with a band called Eyes, in which I recorded an a cappella vocal track called 'Somebody 2 Love' (if u have or find the album, u won't find the track listed, it was a 'ghost' track the label decided NOT 2 credit on the album...the song appears at the very end of the CD) which was very much in the vein of Steve & Sam Cooke. In the album's credits, I dedicated the song to my 'influence & inspiration....S Perry & Sam Cooke'.
Also around that time (1991), I was producing a young band from Boston called Flesh which featured 2 brothers from the band Extreme (Gary Cherone's little bro was the guitarist & Nuno Bettencourt's older brother was the singer...talk about the old switcheroo!!). During that time, Nuno was secretly meeting & writing with Steve, who was then compiling songs which would become FTLOSM, even though this collaborative effort did not make the cut. I was out of town when Nuno & Steve were, & 1 evening, they & the guys from Flesh all went out 4 dinner in which the conversation was turned 2 how Flesh were coming along in the studio. They mentioned they were in the working on songs 4 a recent major publishing deal they'd just signed & dropped my name as the person behind the console assisting them with the production. Of course at that time, Steve would have no clue who I was, especially being that I was only 5 years new into the scene & the most popular thing I had 2 date were 2 albums with Yngwie Malmsteen in '84 & '85...again, completely different genre from what Steve would ever put on his turntable (yes, we still had them then!). Now remember, Steve was part of We Are The World, the pop version of USA For Africa...Neal was on the heavy metal version, We're Stars, with Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Dio & yes, Yngwie Malmsteen!
In their conversation, the guys mentioned what a huge influence Steve & Sam Cooke were 2 me as a vocalist, so much that I credited them both on THIS particular album. He was so honored by this, someone mentioning him this way without ever meeting the person, he sent a message back with the guys 2 thank me 4 this, Of course, it was a proud moment 4 me that my name was even brought up from the guys, but just 2 know he appreciated it instead of shrugging it off was a compliment right back.
Fast forward 3 months later, Extreme were on tour opening 4 ZZ Top in the US, coming through LA, I went 2 the show with the Flesh guys, also having known the Extreme guys, so we could all hang. Backstage, the bassist from Flesh mentioned Steve was there & he would introduce us. During those moments, 1 realizes introductions like this can go 2 ways & the 2nd way...well, u'd rather not meet the person & leave the mystique alone. In my 20 years of singing professionally (4 the record just 2 keep my age in check, I am currently 38, once again the 'baby' in the new band, ha!!), I've never been 1 2 care about meeting celebrities, rock stars, etc., no one person really impresses me so much in life & I pretty much see everyone equally in this world, we all put our shoes on the same way & we all wipe our....u get the picture!!!! But there are exceptions, & the above singers I mentioned as influences, I knew I would love 2 someday meet & thank them 4 the gift they shared but also help mold me so I could 1 day share with others, Steve being 1 of them.
So we head towards Steve & right after the 'Jeff this is Steve, Steve this is Jeff...' formalities, Steve jokingly reaches 4 his wallet & said 'So you're Jeff...I think I owe u some money!' as in a payoff 4 the crediting on the album. I found that so cool of him, that he would be so humble, especially after a few times thanking me 4 the credit.
After some social gibberish, I asked Steve if there was an address I could send a copy of the CD 2 him so he could hear the a cappella I did as I thought he would like it....he gave me a manager's address scribbled on a napkin & we said so long. Some days later, I'm looking 4 this napkin only 2 find it a shribbled mess in my washing machine! I'd obviously 4gotten 2 remove it from my pants.
Fast forward 2 months, I was singing a few songs at an All Star Tribute show 4 the late Randy Rhoads (Ozzy) in LA, walking through the backstage area, low & behold, there's Steve!! I 1st decided 2 see if he remembered me without embarrassing myself, then proceeding 2 apologize 4 not sending the CD & then pry the address of his manager again. Of course he remembered me right off the bat which I then described the washer dilemma & I would like 2 still send the CD 2 him.....he shocked me by saying when he had not received it from me, he went out & BOUGHT it! Once again, very complimentary on the credit there, but then went on 2 say great vocals on the album & he loved the a cappella thing I had done. At 1st, I thought maybe he could just be saying it without having heard a note, but he brought up aspects & lyrics in the song that u can't pretend u know...he definitely heard it....a few times.The only thing(s) that has topped that moment in my life were singing with Queen a few years ago in LA & the birth of my son 16 years ago!
OK, now wake up, I'm done!!!! Sorry the story was so long, but the details are still in my head like it happened days ago so I wanted 2 recount it as well as share it all with u....anyone else outside THIS group, I would have been forced 2 offer the abridged version. 4 those of u who made it 2 the end, thanks 4 reading & hope u enjoyed this very human side of Steve that left an everlasting impression on his most ambitious apprentice. I have a feeling the Neal & Deen stories will have more humor involved, u know those guys! Jeff "


Yeh, I remember when Jeff posted this.
Since him and SP have met and are on cordial terms, perhaps Jeff can reach out to Perry in a way Augeri couldn't even begin to. Maybe it'll go a long way towards getting Perry back on stage with the band someday.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:28 pm

frfksakes wrote:Hope you don't mind me sharing this Jeff!! But seems funny I found it tonight... kind of fits

(btw This was over at Back Talk. Interesting place. :wink: )

from JSS:

"Hey folks, here's my 1st official post that has nothing 2 do with Soul SirkUS...oops, it slipped! It's gonna be lengthy so fetch yourself a pot of 'Joe' & read....
I wanted 2 follow suit in what's normally discussed here, JOURNEY, in which I have limited stories/history up till recently since meeting & now working with Neal & Deen. This 1 is about the 1st time I ever met Steve, as in Perry. Recently, especially since the VH-1 Behind The Music, I've heard & read many blasts against Steve which are a bit disheartening...u never want your musical heroes 2 have any flaws &/or 4 anyone 2 talk smack....well, I'm sure this has all been discussed & debated here 4 years. I thought I would share with u all a positive side 2 the man, as I just mentioned above, very often in this business I have been let down by these so-called heroes...in this case, I wasn't!
For years, my influences & inspirations, as a singer have been very apparent 2 those who have followed my career, were/are Steve, Freddie Mercury, Terence Trent D'Arby & Sam Cooke. Listening 2 most of my recent works wouldn't necessarily give u this impression, especially since these guys are not in the same genre/category of music I have been recording through the years, but every once in a while, u hear the little 'isms' from all these cats, the same u most definitely hear in Steve's influence from Sam Cooke. I proudly pronounced Steve's influence on me in many an interview, but moreso on a particular album I recorded in 1990 with a band called Eyes, in which I recorded an a cappella vocal track called 'Somebody 2 Love' (if u have or find the album, u won't find the track listed, it was a 'ghost' track the label decided NOT 2 credit on the album...the song appears at the very end of the CD) which was very much in the vein of Steve & Sam Cooke. In the album's credits, I dedicated the song to my 'influence & inspiration....S Perry & Sam Cooke'.
Also around that time (1991), I was producing a young band from Boston called Flesh which featured 2 brothers from the band Extreme (Gary Cherone's little bro was the guitarist & Nuno Bettencourt's older brother was the singer...talk about the old switcheroo!!). During that time, Nuno was secretly meeting & writing with Steve, who was then compiling songs which would become FTLOSM, even though this collaborative effort did not make the cut. I was out of town when Nuno & Steve were, & 1 evening, they & the guys from Flesh all went out 4 dinner in which the conversation was turned 2 how Flesh were coming along in the studio. They mentioned they were in the working on songs 4 a recent major publishing deal they'd just signed & dropped my name as the person behind the console assisting them with the production. Of course at that time, Steve would have no clue who I was, especially being that I was only 5 years new into the scene & the most popular thing I had 2 date were 2 albums with Yngwie Malmsteen in '84 & '85...again, completely different genre from what Steve would ever put on his turntable (yes, we still had them then!). Now remember, Steve was part of We Are The World, the pop version of USA For Africa...Neal was on the heavy metal version, We're Stars, with Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Dio & yes, Yngwie Malmsteen!
In their conversation, the guys mentioned what a huge influence Steve & Sam Cooke were 2 me as a vocalist, so much that I credited them both on THIS particular album. He was so honored by this, someone mentioning him this way without ever meeting the person, he sent a message back with the guys 2 thank me 4 this, Of course, it was a proud moment 4 me that my name was even brought up from the guys, but just 2 know he appreciated it instead of shrugging it off was a compliment right back.
Fast forward 3 months later, Extreme were on tour opening 4 ZZ Top in the US, coming through LA, I went 2 the show with the Flesh guys, also having known the Extreme guys, so we could all hang. Backstage, the bassist from Flesh mentioned Steve was there & he would introduce us. During those moments, 1 realizes introductions like this can go 2 ways & the 2nd way...well, u'd rather not meet the person & leave the mystique alone. In my 20 years of singing professionally (4 the record just 2 keep my age in check, I am currently 38, once again the 'baby' in the new band, ha!!), I've never been 1 2 care about meeting celebrities, rock stars, etc., no one person really impresses me so much in life & I pretty much see everyone equally in this world, we all put our shoes on the same way & we all wipe our....u get the picture!!!! But there are exceptions, & the above singers I mentioned as influences, I knew I would love 2 someday meet & thank them 4 the gift they shared but also help mold me so I could 1 day share with others, Steve being 1 of them.
So we head towards Steve & right after the 'Jeff this is Steve, Steve this is Jeff...' formalities, Steve jokingly reaches 4 his wallet & said 'So you're Jeff...I think I owe u some money!' as in a payoff 4 the crediting on the album. I found that so cool of him, that he would be so humble, especially after a few times thanking me 4 the credit.
After some social gibberish, I asked Steve if there was an address I could send a copy of the CD 2 him so he could hear the a cappella I did as I thought he would like it....he gave me a manager's address scribbled on a napkin & we said so long. Some days later, I'm looking 4 this napkin only 2 find it a shribbled mess in my washing machine! I'd obviously 4gotten 2 remove it from my pants.
Fast forward 2 months, I was singing a few songs at an All Star Tribute show 4 the late Randy Rhoads (Ozzy) in LA, walking through the backstage area, low & behold, there's Steve!! I 1st decided 2 see if he remembered me without embarrassing myself, then proceeding 2 apologize 4 not sending the CD & then pry the address of his manager again. Of course he remembered me right off the bat which I then described the washer dilemma & I would like 2 still send the CD 2 him.....he shocked me by saying when he had not received it from me, he went out & BOUGHT it! Once again, very complimentary on the credit there, but then went on 2 say great vocals on the album & he loved the a cappella thing I had done. At 1st, I thought maybe he could just be saying it without having heard a note, but he brought up aspects & lyrics in the song that u can't pretend u know...he definitely heard it....a few times.The only thing(s) that has topped that moment in my life were singing with Queen a few years ago in LA & the birth of my son 16 years ago!
OK, now wake up, I'm done!!!! Sorry the story was so long, but the details are still in my head like it happened days ago so I wanted 2 recount it as well as share it all with u....anyone else outside THIS group, I would have been forced 2 offer the abridged version. 4 those of u who made it 2 the end, thanks 4 reading & hope u enjoyed this very human side of Steve that left an everlasting impression on his most ambitious apprentice. I have a feeling the Neal & Deen stories will have more humor involved, u know those guys! Jeff "


Now that is one awesome post, Jeff. I read it to the end.

forfksake, thanks for posting it over here.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:31 pm

Andrew wrote:As far as intevriewing Herbie - sure, but he has had his say recently.


But soo soo soo much has transpired since the man was last interviewed: TapeGate, Augeri's departure, Jeff coming in etc.

Listen, he recently underwent heart surgery. Just call under the insincere guise of wishing him a speedy recovery!
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Postby Deb » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:34 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Andrew wrote:As far as intevriewing Herbie - sure, but he has had his say recently.


Listen, he recently underwent heart surgery. Just call under the insincere guise of wishing him a speedy recovery!


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Postby Andrew » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:35 pm

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Listen, he recently underwent heart surgery. Just call under the insincere guise of wishing him a speedy recovery!


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Postby SteveForever » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:48 pm

Andrew wrote:I don't agree Deano...I do agree about Neal, but Steve P cannot simply be described as you have above.

Steve was a true artist and that often involves a complicated set of circumstances that can't be summed up easily.

But I do agree that he is the GREATEST rock vocalist ever.


:) :)
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Postby Matthew » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:31 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Admit the use of tapes already, you garden-gnome looking wet bandit!


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Postby Just Mindy » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:45 pm

GREAT pic :D
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:08 pm

Thanks a heap Strungout!
I had never seen this pic before.
Very nice indeed :P
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:50 pm

frfksakes wrote:Hope you don't mind me sharing this Jeff!! But seems funny I found it tonight... kind of fits

(btw This was over at Back Talk. Interesting place. :wink: )

from JSS:

"Hey folks, here's my 1st official post that has nothing 2 do with Soul SirkUS...oops, it slipped! It's gonna be lengthy so fetch yourself a pot of 'Joe' & read....
I wanted 2 follow suit in what's normally discussed here, JOURNEY, in which I have limited stories/history up till recently since meeting & now working with Neal & Deen. This 1 is about the 1st time I ever met Steve, as in Perry. Recently, especially since the VH-1 Behind The Music, I've heard & read many blasts against Steve which are a bit disheartening...u never want your musical heroes 2 have any flaws &/or 4 anyone 2 talk smack....well, I'm sure this has all been discussed & debated here 4 years. I thought I would share with u all a positive side 2 the man, as I just mentioned above, very often in this business I have been let down by these so-called heroes...in this case, I wasn't!
For years, my influences & inspirations, as a singer have been very apparent 2 those who have followed my career, were/are Steve, Freddie Mercury, Terence Trent D'Arby & Sam Cooke. Listening 2 most of my recent works wouldn't necessarily give u this impression, especially since these guys are not in the same genre/category of music I have been recording through the years, but every once in a while, u hear the little 'isms' from all these cats, the same u most definitely hear in Steve's influence from Sam Cooke. I proudly pronounced Steve's influence on me in many an interview, but moreso on a particular album I recorded in 1990 with a band called Eyes, in which I recorded an a cappella vocal track called 'Somebody 2 Love' (if u have or find the album, u won't find the track listed, it was a 'ghost' track the label decided NOT 2 credit on the album...the song appears at the very end of the CD) which was very much in the vein of Steve & Sam Cooke. In the album's credits, I dedicated the song to my 'influence & inspiration....S Perry & Sam Cooke'.
Also around that time (1991), I was producing a young band from Boston called Flesh which featured 2 brothers from the band Extreme (Gary Cherone's little bro was the guitarist & Nuno Bettencourt's older brother was the singer...talk about the old switcheroo!!). During that time, Nuno was secretly meeting & writing with Steve, who was then compiling songs which would become FTLOSM, even though this collaborative effort did not make the cut. I was out of town when Nuno & Steve were, & 1 evening, they & the guys from Flesh all went out 4 dinner in which the conversation was turned 2 how Flesh were coming along in the studio. They mentioned they were in the working on songs 4 a recent major publishing deal they'd just signed & dropped my name as the person behind the console assisting them with the production. Of course at that time, Steve would have no clue who I was, especially being that I was only 5 years new into the scene & the most popular thing I had 2 date were 2 albums with Yngwie Malmsteen in '84 & '85...again, completely different genre from what Steve would ever put on his turntable (yes, we still had them then!). Now remember, Steve was part of We Are The World, the pop version of USA For Africa...Neal was on the heavy metal version, We're Stars, with Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Dio & yes, Yngwie Malmsteen!
In their conversation, the guys mentioned what a huge influence Steve & Sam Cooke were 2 me as a vocalist, so much that I credited them both on THIS particular album. He was so honored by this, someone mentioning him this way without ever meeting the person, he sent a message back with the guys 2 thank me 4 this, Of course, it was a proud moment 4 me that my name was even brought up from the guys, but just 2 know he appreciated it instead of shrugging it off was a compliment right back.
Fast forward 3 months later, Extreme were on tour opening 4 ZZ Top in the US, coming through LA, I went 2 the show with the Flesh guys, also having known the Extreme guys, so we could all hang. Backstage, the bassist from Flesh mentioned Steve was there & he would introduce us. During those moments, 1 realizes introductions like this can go 2 ways & the 2nd way...well, u'd rather not meet the person & leave the mystique alone. In my 20 years of singing professionally (4 the record just 2 keep my age in check, I am currently 38, once again the 'baby' in the new band, ha!!), I've never been 1 2 care about meeting celebrities, rock stars, etc., no one person really impresses me so much in life & I pretty much see everyone equally in this world, we all put our shoes on the same way & we all wipe our....u get the picture!!!! But there are exceptions, & the above singers I mentioned as influences, I knew I would love 2 someday meet & thank them 4 the gift they shared but also help mold me so I could 1 day share with others, Steve being 1 of them.
So we head towards Steve & right after the 'Jeff this is Steve, Steve this is Jeff...' formalities, Steve jokingly reaches 4 his wallet & said 'So you're Jeff...I think I owe u some money!' as in a payoff 4 the crediting on the album. I found that so cool of him, that he would be so humble, especially after a few times thanking me 4 the credit.
After some social gibberish, I asked Steve if there was an address I could send a copy of the CD 2 him so he could hear the a cappella I did as I thought he would like it....he gave me a manager's address scribbled on a napkin & we said so long. Some days later, I'm looking 4 this napkin only 2 find it a shribbled mess in my washing machine! I'd obviously 4gotten 2 remove it from my pants.
Fast forward 2 months, I was singing a few songs at an All Star Tribute show 4 the late Randy Rhoads (Ozzy) in LA, walking through the backstage area, low & behold, there's Steve!! I 1st decided 2 see if he remembered me without embarrassing myself, then proceeding 2 apologize 4 not sending the CD & then pry the address of his manager again. Of course he remembered me right off the bat which I then described the washer dilemma & I would like 2 still send the CD 2 him.....he shocked me by saying when he had not received it from me, he went out & BOUGHT it! Once again, very complimentary on the credit there, but then went on 2 say great vocals on the album & he loved the a cappella thing I had done. At 1st, I thought maybe he could just be saying it without having heard a note, but he brought up aspects & lyrics in the song that u can't pretend u know...he definitely heard it....a few times.The only thing(s) that has topped that moment in my life were singing with Queen a few years ago in LA & the birth of my son 16 years ago!
OK, now wake up, I'm done!!!! Sorry the story was so long, but the details are still in my head like it happened days ago so I wanted 2 recount it as well as share it all with u....anyone else outside THIS group, I would have been forced 2 offer the abridged version. 4 those of u who made it 2 the end, thanks 4 reading & hope u enjoyed this very human side of Steve that left an everlasting impression on his most ambitious apprentice. I have a feeling the Neal & Deen stories will have more humor involved, u know those guys! Jeff "



Thanks for posting that! I've always been someone who has been disappointed by all the shit I hear slung at Perry, and I think Jeff just summed up in one very long paragraph that Perry isn't the bastard some would have you believe. At the end of the day for me, it's always just about the music, anyway. Realistically, none of us are going to hang out with most of these guys, anyway, so the music is all that's ever really mattered to me. When it comes to Perry...He is ALWAYS imitated but I've yet to hear someone replicate his sound. It was just nice to hear a guy like Jeff defend Perry's honor as a decent human being! It was also nice to hear that Jeff was influenced by Perry to a much larger degree than I ever thought he was. Very cool posting!

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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:51 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:*swoon*

beautiful picture... thanks! }:C))

here you go deano...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8WP4GGj0_4




Hey...Augeri sounds like he's singing live there!

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Postby ArnelRox » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:59 pm

Oh I love this thread. Between the incredibly handsome pic of Perry which is my favorite time for his looks (altho I love all his other looks too) & Jeff's post about his experience. I can't help but wonder if some of what was taken for Steve being not so nice back in the day was the fact that he was playing gig after gig nite after nite sometimes 31 days in a row. Just food for thought.
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Postby frfksakes » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:19 pm

Clasicrockldy wrote: Now that is one awesome post, Jeff. I read it to the end.

forfksake, thanks for posting it over here.
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You're welcome! It is an awesome post. (btw it was originally posted in 2004) I hope it was ok to share it. (if not Jeff, I'm sure Andrew will delete it) It was just such funny timing for me to find it, what with the theme the thread was turning into. And it really was great to read.
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Postby chickpea » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:19 pm

Nice pic!

Who cares if Perry was a prick in 1980? He still helped put out some of the best music ever.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:29 pm

Strungout, thank you, thank you and thank you!! I love that picture!!!

You and Tree have a lot of GREAT pictures!!!! Thank you so much for posting all these great pictures, both of you!!!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:38 pm

i don't think you can or should judge someone from talking to them for like 5 minutes. people have bad days... i'm sure even steve perry had bad days where he just wanted to be left alone. i'm always really nice to people... but i can get moody... especially when someone is working my last nerve. where is it written that steve or anyone has to be super cool 24/7? i'm sure everyone here has been a real asshole at least once in their life. you know people grow & change all the time. if (IF) sp was a prick 20+ years ago does that mean he should be forever labeled as such?

hehehee... i couple of months ago my hubby said i was being a little asshole. LOL! }:C)) i can be... but that doesn't mean i'm not a nice & sweet person. };C))
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Postby Deb » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:02 am

JourneyRox wrote:Oh I love this thread. Between the incredibly handsome pic of Perry which is my favorite time for his looks (altho I love all his other looks too) & Jeff's post about his experience. I can't help but wonder if some of what was taken for Steve being not so nice back in the day was the fact that he was playing gig after gig nite after nite sometimes 31 days in a row. Just food for thought.


I agree, I'm sure the pressure's of performing like that night after night would affect anybody's personality. Sorry, but nobody is going to convince me he isn't a nice guy. I mean really.....what did Perry have to gain by surprising us fans back in May. We weren't the media or anything, in the grand scheme of things we weren't really important, just a dozen little fans. Getting dressed to the nines and surprising us was an extremely COOL thing to do in my books. (LMAO, along with providing an extreme adrenaline rush when he came walking up and said "Hey, is this the Journey Star?". :shock: If somebody would have told me back in April that I'd be shooting the shit with Perry and that he would be hugging me not only once but twice the next month.....I would have said Ya right, kiss my ass! :lol: I think not knowing what Perry will do next, is what keeps so many intrigued. :)
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Postby frfksakes » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:51 am

Andrew wrote:Steve rules :)

As far as intevriewing Herbie - sure, but he has had his say recently and as far as I'm concerned, Steve needs to have his say....if he so choses. Besides he remains an idol of mine and still one of the few people I'd sell my grandmother in order to interview :)


Perry did some interviews when the DVDs came out, so maybe your visit coinciding with the release of the reissues is just damn great luck!! I hope you go all out (again) in trying to land this one. I think you’ll get it, this time. :wink: :!: If so, I’ll be on the edge of my seat, that’s for sure! :D

Good luck, Andrew!
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:16 am

strungout wrote:I agree, I'm sure the pressure's of performing like that night after night would affect anybody's personality. Sorry, but nobody is going to convince me he isn't a nice guy. I mean really.....what did Perry have to gain by surprising us fans back in May. We weren't the media or anything, in the grand scheme of things we weren't really important, just a dozen little fans. Getting dressed to the nines and surprising us was an extremely COOL thing to do in my books. (LMAO, along with providing an extreme adrenaline rush when he came walking up and said "Hey, is this the Journey Star?". :shock: If somebody would have told me back in April that I'd be shooting the shit with Perry and that he would be hugging me not only once but twice the next month.....I would have said Ya right, kiss my ass! :lol: I think not knowing what Perry will do next, is what keeps so many intrigued. :)


For every bad experience I've ever heard of anyone having w/Perry, I've heard 2 good experiences where he was awesome. I guess back in the day when he sang live nite after freaking nite, he wasn't all that fan friendly after shows & that has always been a big complaint of some fans & the band on BTM. What I think people fail to realize is if he caught a cold from some fan hugging him on day 3 of a 30 day stint he was screwed. If Neal, Jon, Ross or Smitty caught the same cold, they could still play their instrument. Perry's instrument was his totally amazing incredible voice. Hard to play when u have a cold. It's not like replacing a string or a drumstick.
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