For the gals............

[Lula]

Steve rules

Besides he remains an idol of mine and still one of the few people I'd sell my grandmother in order to interview

Andrew, how could you?? Here I thought you were one of the good guys

[tammy]

Great pic, Deb....picked up the FTLOSM this morning & looking at that pic in the booklet while listening to "One More Time" -- great song!

And, to echo some of the comments...obviously, for the few bad experiences some people or fans had with SP, there are a ton more great experiences of him being nice & considerate...it's the heart that counts & he has proven that his heart is considerate & not vindicative or whatever or else he wouldn't have as many people in the music world praising him (and these are the people who spend time with him, not a 2 min. meeting)
Anybody can be nasty & snap at others (more so on a lot of these forums!)...heck, the way he poured himself out in this music, heart & soul and gave it his all in every concert & the relentless touring I'm surprised he's even still alive - give him a break! He has NEVER spoken ill of any Journey band member & for that matter, I haven't come across any interview where he spoke ill of ANYONE.

[whocares]

I remember Perry himself saying on some radio show (Rockline or Off the Record?) back in the 80's. I'm steve Perry, I know that people are going to want to tell me a story about how much my music meant to them, or wnat an autograph, but sometimes like when I'm eating dinner in a restaurant, I'm NOT Steve Perry, and should be able to expect privacy, insead of having a piece of paper shoved in my face, between my mouth and pasta... (Paraphrasing of course.) I'm sure he was plenty kind when he didn't have to be. Then again, I never had a chance to meet him in person. Now Gregg Rolie, he was prickish...

[Clasicrockldy]

"Prickish"? Do tell.............

[whocares]

just the whole I'm a rockstar, don't bother me type of thing... ok, forget how you became a rock star then, forget that me buying your records helped make you that star, is my attitude to people who don't have a few moments for their fans. It's the very reason that I believe (now) that NO human being should ever be placed on a pedestal, not a celebrity or even your spouse. Those kind of people let you down way too easily, when you do that.

[Clasicrockldy]

Ok............. I understand "Prickish" now........

[ArnelRox]

I said this before on here. I have worked in restaurants/bars all my life. We have had many the celeb come in for dinner, sometimes after a game (sports stars) or a show (musicians/actors) or some other event. They are tired. They just want to sit & eat. It's a constant struggle to keep fans away from them. Michael Jordan couldn't even take a piss in peace without me standing guard (they thought a girl would keep men out of the men's room). Even the more obscure actors got mobbed. The guy who played the Candyman came in a restaurant I worked at. I don't even remember his name. But 15 people were all up in his face & he had to get up & leave w/his family. I can't remember what they were celebrating but it was something big too & they had reserved a whole area. We didn't realize who he was at 1st or we would have secluded him more. Trust me from what I've seen it sux. I would never wanna be famous. I can't imagine how much Perry was mobbed.

I remember Perry himself saying on some radio show (Rockline or Off the Record?) back in the 80's. I'm steve Perry, I know that people are going to want to tell me a story about how much my music meant to them, or wnat an autograph, but sometimes like when I'm eating dinner in a restaurant, I'm NOT Steve Perry, and should be able to expect privacy, insead of having a piece of paper shoved in my face, between my mouth and pasta... (Paraphrasing of course.) I'm sure he was plenty kind when he didn't have to be. Then again, I never had a chance to meet him in person. Now Gregg Rolie, he was prickish...

[NealIsGod]

Michael Jordan couldn't even take a piss in peace without me standing guard

Wow, you've had some interesting jobs in your life.

[ArnelRox]

Michael Jordan couldn't even take a piss in peace without me standing guard

Wow, you've had some interesting jobs in your life.

Be nice Niggy or I'll spank u. (Oh no, ud like that)

[NealIsGod]

Michael Jordan couldn't even take a piss in peace without me standing guard

Wow, you've had some interesting jobs in your life.

Be nice Niggy or I'll spank u. (Oh no, ud like that)

Take a number.

[ArnelRox]

Take a number.

So the silverfox is in demand?

[boodles]

I've never met Steve Perry, but I have read the positive and negative about him thru the years.
I don't doubt that he was and could still be a prick, but it seems like it mostly all has to do with his professional life. Lets face it, Journey was Steves job and he took it very seriously.
Just like anybody else, you try to do the best you can at your job. And sometimes people are not going to like what you do or say. But if the end results are great....and they were!!! it's worth it! The only difference with Steve is that his professional life also carries over into his personal life alot because of being famous. If you are being bothered constantly, even when you are "off the clock", it must to be very hard to ALWAYS be nice. And from things I've read he always wasn't! So what!

In his private life I bet he is alot different. I've heard that he is very sweet and will give you the shirt off his back.( I think Lincoln Brewster said that.)

[Rockindeano]

In his private life I bet he is alot different. I've heard that he is very sweet and will give you the shirt off his back.( I think Lincoln Brewster said that.)

Herbie Herbert had a completely different point of view. I will always believe Herbie Herbert over anyone. THAT guy can put away Double Cheesbeurgers by the minute, but in my world, his word is gospel.

[yak]

Herbie Herbert had a completely different point of view. I will always believe Herbie Herbert over anyone. THAT guy can put away Double Cheesbeurgers by the minute, but in my world, his word is gospel.

I would love to hear what Herbie has to say...no holes barred. He's the only one to be believed. Come on and tell it, Herbie, brotha!


As for the Lincoln Brewster comment by boodles, I think that's incorrect. I believe he and Perry had some kind of falling out....that was Perry's fault.

[Rockindeano]

Next year, Yak, I promise you can read the man's word in a book.

[Liam]

Next year, Yak, I promise you can read the man's word in a book.

SERIOUSLY????????

SWEET.

[treetopovskaya]

Hope you don't mind me sharing this Jeff!! But seems funny I found it tonight... kind of fits

(btw This was over at Back Talk. Interesting place. )

from JSS:

"Hey folks, here's my 1st official post that has nothing 2 do with Soul SirkUS...oops, it slipped! It's gonna be lengthy so fetch yourself a pot of 'Joe' & read....
I wanted 2 follow suit in what's normally discussed here, JOURNEY, in which I have limited stories/history up till recently since meeting & now working with Neal & Deen. This 1 is about the 1st time I ever met Steve, as in Perry. Recently, especially since the VH-1 Behind The Music, I've heard & read many blasts against Steve which are a bit disheartening...u never want your musical heroes 2 have any flaws &/or 4 anyone 2 talk smack....well, I'm sure this has all been discussed & debated here 4 years. I thought I would share with u all a positive side 2 the man, as I just mentioned above, very often in this business I have been let down by these so-called heroes...in this case, I wasn't!
For years, my influences & inspirations, as a singer have been very apparent 2 those who have followed my career, were/are Steve, Freddie Mercury, Terence Trent D'Arby & Sam Cooke. Listening 2 most of my recent works wouldn't necessarily give u this impression, especially since these guys are not in the same genre/category of music I have been recording through the years, but every once in a while, u hear the little 'isms' from all these cats, the same u most definitely hear in Steve's influence from Sam Cooke. I proudly pronounced Steve's influence on me in many an interview, but moreso on a particular album I recorded in 1990 with a band called Eyes, in which I recorded an a cappella vocal track called 'Somebody 2 Love' (if u have or find the album, u won't find the track listed, it was a 'ghost' track the label decided NOT 2 credit on the album...the song appears at the very end of the CD) which was very much in the vein of Steve & Sam Cooke. In the album's credits, I dedicated the song to my 'influence & inspiration....S Perry & Sam Cooke'.
Also around that time (1991), I was producing a young band from Boston called Flesh which featured 2 brothers from the band Extreme (Gary Cherone's little bro was the guitarist & Nuno Bettencourt's older brother was the singer...talk about the old switcheroo!!). During that time, Nuno was secretly meeting & writing with Steve, who was then compiling songs which would become FTLOSM, even though this collaborative effort did not make the cut. I was out of town when Nuno & Steve were, & 1 evening, they & the guys from Flesh all went out 4 dinner in which the conversation was turned 2 how Flesh were coming along in the studio. They mentioned they were in the working on songs 4 a recent major publishing deal they'd just signed & dropped my name as the person behind the console assisting them with the production. Of course at that time, Steve would have no clue who I was, especially being that I was only 5 years new into the scene & the most popular thing I had 2 date were 2 albums with Yngwie Malmsteen in '84 & '85...again, completely different genre from what Steve would ever put on his turntable (yes, we still had them then!). Now remember, Steve was part of We Are The World, the pop version of USA For Africa...Neal was on the heavy metal version, We're Stars, with Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Dio & yes, Yngwie Malmsteen!
In their conversation, the guys mentioned what a huge influence Steve & Sam Cooke were 2 me as a vocalist, so much that I credited them both on THIS particular album. He was so honored by this, someone mentioning him this way without ever meeting the person, he sent a message back with the guys 2 thank me 4 this, Of course, it was a proud moment 4 me that my name was even brought up from the guys, but just 2 know he appreciated it instead of shrugging it off was a compliment right back.
Fast forward 3 months later, Extreme were on tour opening 4 ZZ Top in the US, coming through LA, I went 2 the show with the Flesh guys, also having known the Extreme guys, so we could all hang. Backstage, the bassist from Flesh mentioned Steve was there & he would introduce us. During those moments, 1 realizes introductions like this can go 2 ways & the 2nd way...well, u'd rather not meet the person & leave the mystique alone. In my 20 years of singing professionally (4 the record just 2 keep my age in check, I am currently 38, once again the 'baby' in the new band, ha!!), I've never been 1 2 care about meeting celebrities, rock stars, etc., no one person really impresses me so much in life & I pretty much see everyone equally in this world, we all put our shoes on the same way & we all wipe our....u get the picture!!!! But there are exceptions, & the above singers I mentioned as influences, I knew I would love 2 someday meet & thank them 4 the gift they shared but also help mold me so I could 1 day share with others, Steve being 1 of them.
So we head towards Steve & right after the 'Jeff this is Steve, Steve this is Jeff...' formalities, Steve jokingly reaches 4 his wallet & said 'So you're Jeff...I think I owe u some money!' as in a payoff 4 the crediting on the album. I found that so cool of him, that he would be so humble, especially after a few times thanking me 4 the credit.
After some social gibberish, I asked Steve if there was an address I could send a copy of the CD 2 him so he could hear the a cappella I did as I thought he would like it....he gave me a manager's address scribbled on a napkin & we said so long. Some days later, I'm looking 4 this napkin only 2 find it a shribbled mess in my washing machine! I'd obviously 4gotten 2 remove it from my pants.
Fast forward 2 months, I was singing a few songs at an All Star Tribute show 4 the late Randy Rhoads (Ozzy) in LA, walking through the backstage area, low & behold, there's Steve!! I 1st decided 2 see if he remembered me without embarrassing myself, then proceeding 2 apologize 4 not sending the CD & then pry the address of his manager again. Of course he remembered me right off the bat which I then described the washer dilemma & I would like 2 still send the CD 2 him.....he shocked me by saying when he had not received it from me, he went out & BOUGHT it! Once again, very complimentary on the credit there, but then went on 2 say great vocals on the album & he loved the a cappella thing I had done. At 1st, I thought maybe he could just be saying it without having heard a note, but he brought up aspects & lyrics in the song that u can't pretend u know...he definitely heard it....a few times.The only thing(s) that has topped that moment in my life were singing with Queen a few years ago in LA & the birth of my son 16 years ago!
OK, now wake up, I'm done!!!! Sorry the story was so long, but the details are still in my head like it happened days ago so I wanted 2 recount it as well as share it all with u....anyone else outside THIS group, I would have been forced 2 offer the abridged version. 4 those of u who made it 2 the end, thanks 4 reading & hope u enjoyed this very human side of Steve that left an everlasting impression on his most ambitious apprentice. I have a feeling the Neal & Deen stories will have more humor involved, u know those guys! Jeff "

reading this makes me even more happy jss was called to "step in"... this feels good! }=C))

thanks for posting this. }=C)

[Deb]

reading this makes me even more happy jss was called to "step in"... this feels good! }=C))

thanks for posting this. }=C)

I hear ya tree, with each thing I read, see or hear about this guy.......just rocks my socks off!

[A Fire Inside]

I would buy a HH book! Would be interesting and probably pretty funny.

[Rockindeano]

I would buy a HH book! Would be interesting and probably pretty funny.

Won't be a HH book, but he will be a prominent figure in another.

[Deb]

I would buy a HH book! Would be interesting and probably pretty funny.

Won't be a HH book, but he will be a prominent figure in another.

You talking about the book you say you're gonna write?

[Rockindeano]

I would buy a HH book! Would be interesting and probably pretty funny.

Won't be a HH book, but he will be a prominent figure in another.

You talking about the book you say you're gonna write?

No.

[Shadowsong]

Rule 1: Don;t come between Steve & his pasta with paper
unless it''s a napkin & he has a spot of sauce on his chin...



Rule 2: Herbie loves to eat!
Journey was his meal ticket.
Don;t try to touch Herbie's plate
He Growls....



Rule 3:
Everyone has there own perpective...

Loved reading the JSS/Steve Perry encouner

[fredinator]

Deano-o: Can you say who is writing a book? I saw something you said about Herbie spewing stuff and was wondering if he will be spewing about SPerry? I am troubled why he hates him so much; hate is a pretty strong word...

Nancy

[yak]

Next year, Yak, I promise you can read the man's word in a book.

I'll hold you to it, dude. I'd love to hear what Herbie has to say, since he says what's on his mind, and doesn't care who likes it and who doesn't.

[Rockindeano]

Deano-o: Can you say who is writing a book? I saw something you said about Herbie spewing stuff and was wondering if he will be spewing about SPerry? I am troubled why he hates him so much; hate is a pretty strong word...

Nancy

There's a reason. I can't tell you of details....yet. Let me get permission first.

[Chakra]

Great pic, Deb....picked up the FTLOSM this morning & looking at that pic in the booklet while listening to "One More Time" -- great song!

And, to echo some of the comments...obviously, for the few bad experiences some people or fans had with SP, there are a ton more great experiences of him being nice & considerate...it's the heart that counts & he has proven that his heart is considerate & not vindicative or whatever or else he wouldn't have as many people in the music world praising him (and these are the people who spend time with him, not a 2 min. meeting)
Anybody can be nasty & snap at others (more so on a lot of these forums!)...heck, the way he poured himself out in this music, heart & soul and gave it his all in every concert & the relentless touring I'm surprised he's even still alive - give him a break! He has NEVER spoken ill of any Journey band member & for that matter, I haven't come across any interview where he spoke ill of ANYONE.

Thank you! It so interesting how some who have never met SP, or had a brief encounter can make a judgment call on this man's personal life and character. These same folks would be highly offended and on the offensive if they were judged so harshly.

Herbie has become downright pathetic. He has ranted and raved for years about Steve. Perhaps he had come credibility in the beginning, now he just sounds like a bitter broken record. Okay, Neil is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, Steve Perry is the biggest asshole on the planet (next to him). Ross is always broke, oh yeah, Jon Cain is a egostical bastard ALSO and Gregg Rollie is a saint. Got the 25 year old story down pat. The violins are locked in the closet. Now Herbie, please go enjoy the rest of your time on the planet. And while you are at it, have a little gratitude for the dim wit, the asshole, the egostical bastard and the saint who played a big part in your financial freedom. Get over yourself!

Who cares about another opportunist writing a book about a story that has been told over and over ad nauseum. Dilettante "writers", smug "insiders" and petty wannabes feeding on gossip like maggots are a dime a dozen, unfortunately.

[yulog]

Have you ever met Herbie? and you make the same type remarks about him after things you didnt hear from him directly?

[Shadowsong]

Great pic, Deb....picked up the FTLOSM this morning & looking at that pic in the booklet while listening to "One More Time" -- great song!

And, to echo some of the comments...obviously, for the few bad experiences some people or fans had with SP, there are a ton more great experiences of him being nice & considerate...it's the heart that counts & he has proven that his heart is considerate & not vindicative or whatever or else he wouldn't have as many people in the music world praising him (and these are the people who spend time with him, not a 2 min. meeting)
Anybody can be nasty & snap at others (more so on a lot of these forums!)...heck, the way he poured himself out in this music, heart & soul and gave it his all in every concert & the relentless touring I'm surprised he's even still alive - give him a break! He has NEVER spoken ill of any Journey band member & for that matter, I haven't come across any interview where he spoke ill of ANYONE.

Thank you! It so interesting how some who have never met SP, or had a brief encounter can make a judgment call on this man's personal life and character. These same folks would be highly offended and on the offensive if they were judged so harshly.



Herbie has become downright pathetic. He has ranted and raved for years about Steve. Perhaps he had come credibility in the beginning, now he just sounds like a bitter broken record. Okay, Neil is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, Steve Perry is the biggest asshole on the planet (next to him). Ross is always broke, oh yeah, Jon Cain is a egostical bastard ALSO and Gregg Rollie is a saint. Got the 25 year old story down pat. The violins are locked in the closet. Now Herbie, please go enjoy the rest of your time on the planet. And while you are at it, have a little gratitude for the dim wit, the asshole, the egostical bastard and the saint who played a big part in your financial freedom. Get over yourself!

Who cares about another opportunist writing a book about a story that has been told over and over ad nauseum. Dilettante "writers", smug "insiders" and petty wannabes feeding on gossip like maggots are a dime a dozen, unfortunately.