Comparing Augeri and JSS....

[YoungJRNYfan]

- and the last 2 years were something that should never have happened.

Yup. Even 2004 was really stretching it. Taped high notes, alternating taped songs...etc

Hey, if the guys done, he's done. The reasoning behind that is because his voice is shot. Not because he "sucks" The guy is burned out. His voice couldn't handle the abuse. 8 years singing like that non stop, it's kind of expected. His voice will heal eventualy, but if it doesn't and if it is career ending, then yeah he's done. Hence, the JSS era. But no details confirm that, still making Augeri the lead singer, till further announcement.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But, from what I got, my opinion,, Augeri fits Journey better, as he did for for about, oh 8 years or so.

Too bad 5 years into this lineup "taped enhancements" already starting gradually being put into effect.
It only got worse from there on.

Besides, Augeri's voice is not what it was in 1998 so this whole JSS/Augeri comparison is based on a pack of lies.

and what's best for JOURNEY...and that's Augeri

Maybe once upon a time, but those days are over.
Either the band takes time off, clinging to the fanciful hope that Steve's voice returns to its former self, or they move on.
They chose the later.
More power to them.

So you can be queers together. good luck with the relationship

Me and Deano are actually looking to become surrogate fathers and adopting you as our young boy.
We will keep you shackled in a dog cage and apprentice you in our amoral ways of sin.
In addition, we will refine your palate, in order to savor the delicacy of cock.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But no details confirm that, still making Augeri the lead singer, till further announcement.

LOL. ok.

Sending healing prayer vibes his way right this instant!

[AR]

Sending healing prayer vibes his way right this instant!

Fuck you owe me a beer. I just spit this one out laughing at that line.

[Clasicrockldy]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

You're making all young Journey fans look bad. Stop.

[YoungJRNYfan]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

You're right, Rolie was the FIRST lead singer. But as a BAND, Fleischman should really take part in making Journey's hits. When I say original, I mean Journey's TAKE OFF. Wheel in the sky was not one of Perry's hits for the band, Fleischman actualy was apart of that, passing the torch to Perry for that matter. Perry just took and ran with it, and the rest is history. haha.

[Chevypv]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

You're right, Rolie was the FIRST lead singer. But as a BAND, Fleischman should really take part in making Journey's hits. When I say original, I mean Journey's TAKE OFF. Wheel in the sky was not one of Perry's hits for the band, Fleischman actualy was apart of that, passing the torch to Perry for that matter. Perry just took and ran with it, and the rest is history. haha.

Except the only people that heard Fleischman sing it were a rare few who saw them in concert during that one tour....The first recording and release of the song was Steve Perry, and quite honestly, no one cares who wrote what songs, you'd never know unless you read the liner notes....If Fleischman was so great at "taking part in making Journey's hits" then why didn't he even make an album....

[YoungJRNYfan]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

You're right, Rolie was the FIRST lead singer. But as a BAND, Fleischman should really take part in making Journey's hits. When I say original, I mean Journey's TAKE OFF. Wheel in the sky was not one of Perry's hits for the band, Fleischman actualy was apart of that, passing the torch to Perry for that matter. Perry just took and ran with it, and the rest is history. haha.

Except the only people that heard Fleischman sing it were a rare few who saw them in concert during that one tour....The first recording and release of the song was Steve Perry, and quite honestly, no one cares who wrote what songs, you'd never know unless you read the liner notes....If Fleischman was so great at "taking part in making Journey's hits" then why didn't he even make an album....

That's why I said Perry took and ran with it, Fleischman deserves some credit, though.

[YoungJRNYfan]

You're making all young Journey fans look bad. Stop.

Funny you say that, I was actualy talking to one of my friends one time about Journey, and he still thought Perry was the frontman for the band, and I just went along with it and thought it was actualy pretty funny. You're right, I don't know much as you guys would. Hell, you've followed then before I was even born. What you said was exactly right, young fans do look bad for Journey, they know nothing as a matter of fact. The majority of them don't even know who Neal Schon is. I'm just here to take what I know and expand by learning from you guys, and know from the bands past to the present. So I can' really make Young fans look bad, because they are. I'm happy where I am though where I stand and know a little bit of a lot of what Journey is all about, and I'll take it.

[Clasicrockldy]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

You're right, Rolie was the FIRST lead singer. But as a BAND, Fleischman should really take part in making Journey's hits. When I say original, I mean Journey's TAKE OFF. Wheel in the sky was not one of Perry's hits for the band, Fleischman actualy was apart of that, passing the torch to Perry for that matter. Perry just took and ran with it, and the rest is history. haha.

Have you heard any boots with Fleischman singing? If you had heard those, you might come to the conclusion that Fleischman might of not been the right singer for the band.

[Chevypv]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original,

Ahem,YoungJRNYfan, you better re-read your Journey history. Gregg Rolie was their first lead singer.

You're right, Rolie was the FIRST lead singer. But as a BAND, Fleischman should really take part in making Journey's hits. When I say original, I mean Journey's TAKE OFF. Wheel in the sky was not one of Perry's hits for the band, Fleischman actualy was apart of that, passing the torch to Perry for that matter. Perry just took and ran with it, and the rest is history. haha.

Except the only people that heard Fleischman sing it were a rare few who saw them in concert during that one tour....The first recording and release of the song was Steve Perry, and quite honestly, no one cares who wrote what songs, you'd never know unless you read the liner notes....If Fleischman was so great at "taking part in making Journey's hits" then why didn't he even make an album....

That's why I said Perry took and ran with it, Fleischman deserves some credit, though.

He does, he gets a writing credit in the liner notes....

[Classic Rock]

You're making all young Journey fans look bad. Stop.

Funny you say that, I was actualy talking to one of my friends one time about Journey, and he still thought Perry was the frontman for the band, and I just went along with it and thought it was actualy pretty funny. You're right, I don't know much as you guys would. Hell, you've followed then before I was even born. What you said was exactly right, young fans do look bad for Journey, they know nothing as a matter of fact. The majority of them don't even know who Neal Schon is. I'm just here to take what I know and expand by learning from you guys, and know from the bands past to the present. So I can' really make Young fans look bad, because they are. I'm happy where I am though where I stand and know a little bit of a lot of what Journey is all about, and I'll take it.

You are making the young Journey fans on this board look bad I think is what fightingilliniJRNY is trying to say, and you are. It really doesn’t matter how old you are to know the history of this band or any other band. I knew a hell of a lot about Journey before I came here of course being here does make me that much more knowledgeable. The only thing us young classic rock fans missed out on was the concert experience from back in the glory days particularly the Captured & Escape Tours. I get the experience of listing to Journey records, hell sometimes I prefer that then the crystal clear remasters because that was all they had back in then. I would give anything to go back to the first day in 1973 when they were not even called Journey and follow them thorough the years. You are right the casual young classic rock fan (which is just now starting to grow) does not know anything about Journey but I’m worried about what you are telling the uneducated ones because what you are posting is just crazy.

[YoungJRNYfan]

You're making all young Journey fans look bad. Stop.

Funny you say that, I was actualy talking to one of my friends one time about Journey, and he still thought Perry was the frontman for the band, and I just went along with it and thought it was actualy pretty funny. You're right, I don't know much as you guys would. Hell, you've followed then before I was even born. What you said was exactly right, young fans do look bad for Journey, they know nothing as a matter of fact. The majority of them don't even know who Neal Schon is. I'm just here to take what I know and expand by learning from you guys, and know from the bands past to the present. So I can' really make Young fans look bad, because they are. I'm happy where I am though where I stand and know a little bit of a lot of what Journey is all about, and I'll take it.

You are making the young Journey fans on this board look bad I think is what fightingilliniJRNY is trying to say, and you are. It really doesn’t matter how old you are to know the history of this band or any other band. I knew a hell of a lot about Journey before I came here of course being here does make me that much more knowledgeable. The only thing us young classic rock fans missed out on was the concert experience from back in the glory days particularly the Captured & Escape Tours. I get the experience of listing to Journey records, hell sometimes I prefer that then the crystal clear remasters because that was all they had back in then. I would give anything to go back to the first day in 1973 when they were not even called Journey and follow them thorough the years. You are right the casual young classic rock fan (which is just now starting to grow) does not know anything about Journey but I’m worried about what you are telling the uneducated ones because what you are posting is just crazy.

what's so crazy about my posts that's so wrong? I'm just stating my opinion. That's all. It's just music. Not WWIII. Lighten up would yah?

[Classic Rock]

what's so crazy about my posts that's so wrong?

Fuck, I'd rather listen to a tape, rather than listen to just another guy sing Journey songs.

What the fuck?

There are many more examples that TNC and Deano have already called you out on and I’m glad they did. Also you are provoking Deano, why? So people think you are tough? I just think it makes you look stupid! You are the one that needs to lighten up.

[Rockindeano]

But no details confirm that, still making Augeri the lead singer, till further announcement.

Definitely a BT er.

The details are out there. He's done.

Want to look smart? Go tell your friends this, and I guarantee you, it's correct. If it isn't, I will kill myself. Deal?

[JSS]

He's lower, and just a rocker. Journey is not known as a HEAVY kind of band.

This is what kills me...ignorance! If you did your homework, you would know I'm BEYOND a 'rocker', that part in me is about a thumb's worth of what I'm all about, I grew up from the time I started speaking until high school ONLY listening to R&B, soul, funk & Motown...even in Jr. High, Journey was too 'heavy' for me. As far as range, Jesus Christ, wake up, listen to Perry in his 40's & live, it comes down naturally as you get older, but fuck me, listen to some of the recent boots, if I'm not singing EVERY note on the studio versions on most songs then you must be Santa Claus! I'm not perfect but I do go for it & if you listen MY back catalog, you'd hear I was MUCH higher back in the day, when we were young, as most of us here are not anymore, & ONLY sang in a higher range. Do your homework, then crucify, till then, don't judge on a few boots or RECENT recordings where I opt not sing in the high heavens as I will sadfully admit, it aint fashionable anymore in contemporary music....this aint the 70/80's anymore

[FormerJrnyFan]

It will have the same effect, a tribute.

Why wasn't Augeri a "tribute", YoungJRNYfan?

For me, it really depends on what you believe by your definition of a "TRIBUTE BAND" You could also say that about Perry as a tribute, as he replaced Robert Fleischman. Although Fleischman was the original, Perry made what Journey is today, and made Journey as hits of the world. It's the sound...the sound is what makes it a tribute with Soto. He's lower, and just a rocker. Journey is not known as a HEAVY kind of band. Augeri braught swag of the Perry era, and has that Journey sound, as what Schon and Cain was looking for. If anything, If JSS does replace Augeri via injury, then they must want to go in a different direction than in the past as far as sound goes. As someone mentioned already, if that happens, It would be exciting to hear new material from Journey with J.S.S at helm, but for awhile, it will be as if something would be missing...maybe Journey's charactor of sound if you will.

You've had an agenda here from day one.

Great post, you're right. To talk Journey.

Yep, an Augeri-fronted Journey only

[AR]

This is what kills me...ignorance! If you did your homework, you would know I'm BEYOND a 'rocker', that part in me is about a thumb's worth of what I'm all about, I grew up from the time I started speaking until high school ONLY listening to R&B, soul, funk & Motown...even in Jr. High, Journey was too 'heavy' for me. As far as range, Jesus Christ, wake up, listen to Perry in his 40's & live, it comes down naturally as you get older, but fuck me, listen to some of the recent boots, if I'm not singing EVERY note on the studio versions on most songs then you must be Santa Claus! I'm not perfect but I do go for it & if you listen MY back catalog, you'd hear I was MUCH higher back in the day, when we were young, as most of us here are not anymore, & ONLY sang in a higher range. Do your homework, then crucify, till then, don't judge on a few boots or RECENT recordings where I opt not sing in the high heavens as I will sadfully admit, it aint fashionable anymore in contemporary music....this aint the 70/80's anymore

[Nunnayerbiz Ness]

Finding some clips from Virginia Beach back in '98 where his first night as the new frontman, and it seems like JSS doesn't even compare to Steve Augeri. His voice carries so much better and more clear.

Although Soto is a great stage presence frontman, Augeri is better as Journey vocals. As weeks and weeks in people breaking ice as saying JSS is the new lead singer, if anything, it will be a Journey Tribute band with him in there and to promote JSS into the lead singer would be to only sing Newer fresh things with the band other than Classic songs because Journey would turn into their own Tribute.

As bad as most people here want to see J.S.S become the Journey sound, I think deep deep deep down, people know Augeri needs to come back.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8WP4GGj0_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mouMt05g0

Jesus, that's the best you could find to state your point? Augeri is flat out boring to watch, & pretty flat vocally all over the place too...& this being at the beginning before he had to lip his way through the show!! I guess after having seeing the 'new' Journey where this is once again a show to watch, this is almost like watching grass grow in comparison...the kind of show grandma & grandpa would love before calling it a night watching Leno's monologue!

[itsjustme]

He's lower, and just a rocker. Journey is not known as a HEAVY kind of band.

This is what kills me...ignorance! If you did your homework, you would know I'm BEYOND a 'rocker', that part in me is about a thumb's worth of what I'm all about, I grew up from the time I started speaking until high school ONLY listening to R&B, soul, funk & Motown...even in Jr. High, Journey was too 'heavy' for me. As far as range, Jesus Christ, wake up, listen to Perry in his 40's & live, it comes down naturally as you get older, but fuck me, listen to some of the recent boots, if I'm not singing EVERY note on the studio versions on most songs then you must be Santa Claus! I'm not perfect but I do go for it & if you listen MY back catalog, you'd hear I was MUCH higher back in the day, when we were young, as most of us here are not anymore, & ONLY sang in a higher range. Do your homework, then crucify, till then, don't judge on a few boots or RECENT recordings where I opt not sing in the high heavens as I will sadfully admit, it aint fashionable anymore in contemporary music....this aint the 70/80's anymore

Most brilliant statement I've ever read in any of these forums, lol.

[Rockindeano]

Most brilliant statement I've ever read in any of these forums, lol.

Better than me telling HOTS to back her fat ass into a desert cactus? No way.

[Natalie]

Most brilliant statement I've ever read in any of these forums, lol.

Better than me telling HOTS to back her fat ass into a desert cactus? No way.

Oh come on, that wasn't all that brilliant! Try harder!

[knox]

These video clips actually show how WEAK Augeri has ALWAYS been.

His voice has no power, no projection. On Ask The Lonely he strains (and lacks any power at all) to get out "With every heart beat" and "Ask The Lonely" in the verse.

Soto is MUCH better suited to sing these songs. Perry had Power behind his voice - Soto has power - Augeri has always sounded weak and hoarse to me.

These clips prove the opposite of the intended purpose of this thread.

[Clasicrockldy]

He's lower, and just a rocker. Journey is not known as a HEAVY kind of band.

This is what kills me...ignorance! If you did your homework, you would know I'm BEYOND a 'rocker', that part in me is about a thumb's worth of what I'm all about, I grew up from the time I started speaking until high school ONLY listening to R&B, soul, funk & Motown...even in Jr. High, Journey was too 'heavy' for me. As far as range, Jesus Christ, wake up, listen to Perry in his 40's & live, it comes down naturally as you get older, but fuck me, listen to some of the recent boots, if I'm not singing EVERY note on the studio versions on most songs then you must be Santa Claus! I'm not perfect but I do go for it & if you listen MY back catalog, you'd hear I was MUCH higher back in the day, when we were young, as most of us here are not anymore, & ONLY sang in a higher range. Do your homework, then crucify, till then, don't judge on a few boots or RECENT recordings where I opt not sing in the high heavens as I will sadfully admit, it aint fashionable anymore in contemporary music....this aint the 70/80's anymore

Awesome post, Jeff! I agree !

[conversationpc]

This is what kills me...ignorance! If you did your homework, you would know I'm BEYOND a 'rocker', that part in me is about a thumb's worth of what I'm all about, I grew up from the time I started speaking until high school ONLY listening to R&B, soul, funk & Motown...even in Jr. High, Journey was too 'heavy' for me. As far as range, Jesus Christ, wake up, listen to Perry in his 40's & live, it comes down naturally as you get older, but fuck me, listen to some of the recent boots, if I'm not singing EVERY note on the studio versions on most songs then you must be Santa Claus! I'm not perfect but I do go for it & if you listen MY back catalog, you'd hear I was MUCH higher back in the day, when we were young, as most of us here are not anymore, & ONLY sang in a higher range. Do your homework, then crucify, till then, don't judge on a few boots or RECENT recordings where I opt not sing in the high heavens as I will sadfully admit, it aint fashionable anymore in contemporary music....this aint the 70/80's anymore

Aw, come on there Jeff. I want to hear you really cut loose now. I think you should disciple under Geddy Lee and become a member of the Chipmunks.

[itsjustme]

Most brilliant statement I've ever read in any of these forums, lol.

Better than me telling HOTS to back her fat ass into a desert cactus? No way.

Yes, lmao, even more brilliant than that.

though, if there were ever an award for the most brilliantly cruel wit, you'd win hands down. I’ve never been so offended while laughing my ass off in my life. You have a true gift.

[Rockindeano]

though, if there were ever an award for the most brilliantly cruel wit, you'd win hands down. I’ve never been so offended while laughing my ass off in my life. You have a true gift.

Ya think so? I am fabricating an all out, top notch, hard core abuse post directed at the Loons. I know Andrew is leaving to come here in a few days, and he can't moderate from 37,000 feet, so I outsmarted that backwoods country fuck I plan on posting this masterpiece as soon as the Quantas 747 takes off.

It is the MOAP. Mother of all Posts.

[itsjustme]

though, if there were ever an award for the most brilliantly cruel wit, you'd win hands down. I’ve never been so offended while laughing my ass off in my life. You have a true gift.

Ya think so? I am fabricating an all out, top notch, hard core abuse post directed at the Loons. I know Andrew is leaving to come here in a few days, and he can't moderate from 37,000 feet, so I outsmarted that backwoods country fuck I plan on posting this masterpiece as soon as the Quantas 747 takes off.

It is the MOAP. Mother of all Posts.

Lol, don't tip your hand TOO much, or Andrew will shut the whole thing down until he lands. Then all Hell will not break loose,
and where's the fun in that!

[Clasicrockldy]

though, if there were ever an award for the most brilliantly cruel wit, you'd win hands down. I’ve never been so offended while laughing my ass off in my life. You have a true gift.

Ya think so? I am fabricating an all out, top notch, hard core abuse post directed at the Loons. I know Andrew is leaving to come here in a few days, and he can't moderate from 37,000 feet, so I outsmarted that backwoods country fuck I plan on posting this masterpiece as soon as the Quantas 747 takes off.

It is the MOAP. Mother of all Posts.

Oh god, Deano........... (slaps hand to head..) I am dreading what it might be............