Steve Perry

[froy]

Do me a favor shut up and go follow someone else.

You should take your own advice if you don't like Styx or Journey anymore.

Done deal you do the same

[NealIsGod]

Do me a favor shut up and go follow someone else.

You should take your own advice if you don't like Styx or Journey anymore.

Done deal you do the same

Great!

[Clasicrockldy]

Want a little to go with that whine? Jeeze.......... quit complaining ! I am glad that Jeff took over to let Journey continue. Hell, I haven't been this excited about Journey since the 80's!

[lights1961]

Wake up man your songs are being butchered
Are you going to sit there and just watch?

Im sorry I have seen Jeff sing with JRNY vid only and Augeri is much better
That being said its time for Perry to get some balls and take his job back

This is now a joke
Jeff go back to singing Queen you did fine there

You can't yell JRNY songs you have to sing them
Even Perry yelled them on the Strange Journey tour until he settled down

Lets go Perry get off your ass.

Froy---its time to give it up man... in 2018 will you be saying the same thing??? GEEZ.
JSS is singing just fine thanks... I have seen the shows twice this summer and one more later this week.. and the LIVE performance are TOP in my book.. its the first time in a long time that the whole audience is up for the ENTIRE SET...

Rick

Rick

[The Ghost Rider]

If you don't like it...don't listen to it. Simple as that, really.

[froy]

its the first time in a long time that the whole audience is up for the ENTIRE SET...

You mean the entire set that they have been playing for 7 years
Allot of followers out there I guess
What happens when Jeff realizes this is not where his career should be and he moves on then what?
The next guy HUGO comes in and you say he's great he sings fine Im so excited
This is not about just 1 member this is about the entire picture
Fact is if Jeff and Journey put out a new cd is bombs worse than Generations
Will you still be so excited >


Answer me this

Would you rather have a new JRNY cd with Steve Perry and a 5 show tour
Or a new cd with Jeff and a tour not supporting it with the same 15 songs played?
Thats your choices friends

[yogi]

JSS,

I ordered your Tailsman(7) CD last week. I cant wait to hear it.

My problem with Journey has NOTHING to do with you or the fact Steve Perry no longer wants to sing anymore. Whether he doesnt want to sing or for some medical reason cant is his business.

Anyhow my problem with Journey stems from the voice enhancement era of the band.

Can you comment on it? If so did it happen?? Why?? Finally, how could Neal, Jonathan and the rest allow this to go on???
If you blew out a vocal chord would you do it if the Journey 'leader'(s) ask you to??

P.S. I think its cool as shit that you read and respond here! I heard your version of Ill Be Alright Without You. Its damn good. It does NOT sound like Steve Perry at all, but it has alot of soul!!

[fred_journeyman]

...that clowns like Froy spend their time on a message board regarding something they DON"T like?

With all due respect, Eric, without those "clowns," this place would be another BT, with everyone pumping up the current line-up and towing the "party" line. I don't mind the back and forth, the give and take and the dissenting opinions. I just think the opinions should be said with respect...on BOTH sides of the coin.

JSS has a great voice, no doubt. I could do nowhere as good; not even close on my best day. Some listen to the "boots" and go, "My GOD, that was abso-f**ckin-lutely FANTABULOUS!" I've listened to some of the them and go "Eh, not bad." Now, whether it's the boot (most likely) or the singing, to me it's not perfect.

Froy, if Perry WAS back, Journey wouldn't be what it was in its heyday. Not even close. Perry is wise enough to realize that and he seems not to be motivated enough to WANT to sing in any capacity...or he would be. I don't believe he's scared. I simply believe he doesn't want to.

Regarding the Inner Circle thing, I'm quite certain there is a LOT that can NEVER be made public because of one word: LEGAL. While many of us would LIKE to know, we WON'T know and we're probably better off for NOT knowing. Beyond that, aside from curiousity, we have no right to know.

Jeff, as I said, you've got a great voice. I'm not sure it's the perfect fit for Journey, but that's not my decision to make and that does NOT take away anything from the quality of your voice!

Here's my problem with Journey: it is that they are STUCK in the past, doing roughly the same classic tunes all the time. Even when they insert a NEW classic tune, it's still a classic tune. I'm bored. I'm very hopeful that with you as frontman, they will not only produce new music that is Journey, but that they will actually play some of it in concert. When THAT happens, I'll buy tickets again. That's my "wish" list, Jeff. See what you can do to make that happen, will you? I would greatly appreciate it.

[NealIsGod]

its the first time in a long time that the whole audience is up for the ENTIRE SET...

You mean the entire set that they have been playing for 7 years
Allot of followers out there I guess
What happens when Jeff realizes this is not where his career should be and he moves on then what?
The next guy HUGO comes in and you say he's great he sings fine Im so excited
This is not about just 1 member this is about the entire picture
Fact is if Jeff and Journey put out a new cd is bombs worse than Generations
Will you still be so excited >


Answer me this

Would you rather have a new JRNY cd with Steve Perry and a 5 show tour
Or a new cd with Jeff and a tour not supporting it with the same 15 songs played?
Thats your choices friends

After the last two Journey CDs with Perry, not to mention FTLOSM, I can confidently answer that I would choose a new JSS CD. Concerts are only an hour or two of one night.

[Red13JoePa]

Opinions are like assholes....

The moral to my post is there are things you don't know nor will ever know, the kind of things that are not supposed to be public knowledge...nothing to do with greed or hatred, but everything to do with reasons why 'it is what it is'. This isn't worth arguing about, unless you're part of the 'inner circle', you really have no clue as to why things are what they are....as you said, Freddie is gone & that would be the easiest reason for Journey to continue as they are, but it just aint that simple. Nothing else I can say about it

I am pretty sure that if JRNY did not do something for this current tour they would have been sued up the ass

Perhaps, and the judge would've taken one look at the medical reports Azoff Mgmt/the band would have produced on Steve Augeri and thrown the damn suit out on the spot.
They couldn't've been legally mandated to continue with their contracted singer physically/medically unable to perform, would've been w/in their rights to not go on.
To give JDouble a shot was a choice and in hindsight 20k seats sold in LA do not lie.

[fred_journeyman]

...What happens when Jeff realizes this is not where his career should be and he moves on then what?
The next guy HUGO comes in and you say he's great he sings fine Im so excited...

That's a point that needs to be made. Too many on here seem to reflect the "enthusiasm" that occurs at BT. In certainly may be warranted in Jeff's case, however look what happens...Augeri is out and those who liked him are essentially told to "bite it," "quit hanging on," "Jeff's the man now," and all the rest of it.

If people here WANT to hang with Augeri, they should be allowed to instead of some feeling like it's THEIR job to shut the opposing voices DOWN.

I think A Fire Inside said it best...this place is a lot like BT...except swearing is allowed here. In fact, it seems like the grosser and more foul-mouthed you are, the more you're appreciated. Where is the intelligent discussion?

Now that Jeff hangs here (which is fine), I think fewer people are willing to state their opinion, if it's in opposition to Jeff because they'll be trounced on...and fast! Tell me THAT isn't what it's like at BT?

[Matthew]

Answer me this

Would you rather have a new JRNY cd with Steve Perry and a 5 show tour
Or a new cd with Jeff and a tour not supporting it with the same 15 songs played?
Thats your choices friends

I wish there was that choice, Froy. I'd go for the Perry option - but unfortunately that option isn't available.

I guess I'm excited about Journey at the moment because they are showing early signs of a revival...they're digging themselves out of the pit of failure and disgrace which the Augeri era left them in.

Sure, this revival might not lead to a hit album or even necessarily a surprising set-list - but nonetheless there's a glimmer of hope now that Journey will cease to be a travesty of the band they were in the 1980s.

[peacemom]

And you know what Froy?, maybe just maybe.....
your the load your momma should have swallowed.

If Steve Perry sings again it's as good as bought for me
but if he don't I still enjoy tons of other artists.

MoonBeam
I always enjoy your posts. so clear, so concise, so rational.

I have been a Journey fan since 1975 and have seen a lot of changes, a number of vocalists. Guess what...I still love Journey. I will admit that after the first 3 albums, it took me a bit to adjust to Steve Perry and the bands "change of direction", but I am a huge Steve Perry fan (I realize that by using the world "Huge" I am setting myself up for hippo jokes but so be it.) JSS, it seems is pleasing most of the fans all of the time and I think that is great. Living in Maine, we don't get many shows up here except country music.



not for me, but we did see Journey in NH and Boston with Augeri and I totally enjoyed both of them. I never got the chance to see Perry with the band but did see him in Lewiston ME on the FTLOSM tour which I thought was as good as it gets. I have not seen a bad JSS bootleg or even heard a bad JSS moment, but I am sure he has them. and the fact that he is just plain soooo wholesomely sexy, is icing on the cake!

Froy, you seem to have been around a long time. Weren't you on Monker's mailing list? Or were you a pain in everyone's ass afterwards. It IS a pity that your momma didn't swallow.

peace out
Purple Mary

[froy]

Froy, if Perry WAS back, Journey wouldn't be what it was in its heyday. Not even close.

Really
Does it matter ?
They only play the same 15 songs anyway so why not let Perry who made them happen sing them?
You really cannot say what would happen if Perry came back
I will say that if Jeff sticks around it will get embarrasing
Not because he's a bad singer its only becuase the music buisness won't let it be big no matter how hard they try
Sure they will alway sell concerts thats the power of the name JRNY
The big buzz in the music world would come if Perry Steve Smith and Greg Rollie came back and did a reunion tour
Heck Dean could stick around and harmonize with Perry that would be increadable.

Perry is wise enough to realize that and he seems not to be motivated enough to WANT to sing in any capacity...or he would be. I don't believe he's scared. I simply believe he doesn't want to.

Im sorry but I have to disagree with you on this
He is not confident enough to do a JRNY full tour
Thats why he should take it slow sing for 6 months and get that voice and the cords warmed up
The steam room everyday and that voice will get clear.

Jeff, as I said, you've got a great voice. I'm not sure it's the perfect fit for Journey, but that's not my decision to make and that does NOT take away anything from the quality of your voice!

I think he sings Queen great
Im sure he sings JRNY great also
Thats not the issue with me the issue is we are now going on Perry clone 2 and thats the sign of a band that does not know when to call it a day
The money is taking over the decisions ,

Here's my problem with Journey: it is that they are STUCK in the past, doing roughly the same classic tunes all the time. Even when they insert a NEW classic tune, it's still a classic tune.

Agree

I'm bored. I'm very hopeful that with you as frontman, they will not only produce new music that is Journey,

Not going to happen
JRNY is Perry Cain and Neal
Thats JRNY music and thats what they are singing in concert.
If Jeff does anything with them its JRNY Circus

[froy]

Answer me this

Would you rather have a new JRNY cd with Steve Perry and a 5 show tour
Or a new cd with Jeff and a tour not supporting it with the same 15 songs played?
Thats your choices friends

I wish there was that choice, Froy. I'd go for the Perry option - but unfortunately that option isn't available.

Its not available because JRNY fans settle for second best thats why
Its time to walk away from this band just like they are doing with STYX
It will shake em up and force them to make it happen
For years STYX said never ever to Dennis DEYoung we are now at the hmm maybe stage and next it will be ok lets do it thing.

I guess I'm excited about Journey at the moment because they are showing early signs of a revival...they're digging themselves out of the pit of failure and disgrace which the Augeri era left them in.

How can they be showing revival when the concert is the same show year after year
They are stale playing the same songs

Sure, this revival might not lead to a hit album or even necessarily a surprising set-list - but nonetheless there's a glimmer of hope now that Journey will cease to be a travesty of the band they were in the 1980s.

Do you see what you just posted?
If they were a travesty in the 80s whay the hell are you even here ?
How can you be a fan ?
Makes no sense to me.

[froy]

Froy, you seem to have been around a long time. Weren't you on Monker's mailing list? Or were you a pain in everyone's ass afterwards. It IS a pity that your momma didn't swallow.

peace out
Purple Mary

[/quote]

First of all if you think this is funny than you have a serious mental issue
And second of all my mom died 3 years ago
So I would really appreciate you trying not to be funny .

[Moon Beam]

That's your opinion Froy stated, noted and filed.
Spank ya kindly for it

Now can we move along, PUH-LEESE?
We should all consider what Andrew will have to
deal with when he gets home from that long flight.

[The_Noble_Cause]

they know what they're doing & I know what I'm doing...trust that we know what we're doing

My speakers have gone kaput and I don't know if Jeff is any good or not (though I've heard amazing things).
However, the above line is somewhat troubling.
If anything, didn't the recent Augeri/Tapegate scandal prove that the band DOESN'T know what they're doing?

Seriously, if they did, would they have really chosen a singer whose voice was blown out by the Main Event tour?

[The_Noble_Cause]

The moral to my post is there are things you don't know nor will ever know, the kind of things that are not supposed to be public knowledge...nothing to do with greed or hatred, but everything to do with reasons why 'it is what it is'. This isn't worth arguing about, unless you're part of the 'inner circle', you really have no clue as to why things are what they are....as you said, Freddie is gone & that would be the easiest reason for Journey to continue as they are, but it just aint that simple. Nothing else I can say about it

TRANSLATION: Perry fried his pipes doing too much crack. This is no secret.

[Matthew]

Do you see what you just posted?
If they were a travesty in the 80s whay the hell are you even here ?
How can you be a fan ?
Makes no sense to me.

You misread my post . I said they had become a travesty OF the band they used to be.

[ohsherrie]

Hi froy, I like you and respect your point of view so please don't take this as an argument. It's just a response to points you've made that I think deserve a response.

You mean the entire set that they have been playing for 7 years
Allot of followers out there I guess

I get what you're saying here and to be frank, if I go to a show next year I'd much rather hear something new.
I like what I've heard of JSS doing the classics better than what I've heard of Augeri, but to me they're still Perry's. I'm not sure it's the band's choice to play all the old stuff, I just don't think they've had anything new that is recognizable to the majority of their audiences and they want to hear stuff that they identify with. If they could get some new stuff out there being heard, whether on the radio or in TV ads like Rod Stewart and Michael MacDonald did, I think the audiences would be more receptive to the new stuff.

What happens when Jeff realizes this is not where his career should be and he moves on then what?
The next guy HUGO comes in and you say he's great he sings fine Im so excited

That's when it'll become a sad joke to me. Not because of Hugo or whoever they choose, but because it'll prove that they actually are just out there to milk the legacy instead of actually trying to be a creative musical entity again. I don't think that was a real possibility with Augeri(JMO) but I think if they're ever going to have a chance of making it without Perry this is it. I like to see them do that for the sake of Journey's reputation.

This is not about just 1 member this is about the entire picture
Fact is if Jeff and Journey put out a new cd is bombs worse than Generations
Will you still be so excited >

You're right, it is about the band as a whole and it's future. I hope they can generate enough excitement though this tour to regain some credibility with the industry so that they can get a decent label and promotion behind them if they do make a new CD. It would have go over better than Generations simply because it would be more professionally done and handled, not to mention having a better songwriter/vocalist(IMO). But if they don't do a new CD that gives back some of the excitement that we used to feel for a new Journey record, no, I won't still be so excited.

You and Monker may be right that they're heading in the same sorry direction as Styx, but I think they were heading that way anyway. I see this change as being their last chance to change that downward spiral into oblivion.

Answer me this

Would you rather have a new JRNY cd with Steve Perry and a 5 show tour
Or a new cd with Jeff and a tour not supporting it with the same 15 songs played?
Thats your choices friends

Even though I don't really want Perry back with Journey, if I felt there were even the slightest chance of a new CD with Perry, even if there was no tour and just a Pay per View, I'd rather have that than anyone else singing with Journey. If Journey is going to continue to tour without Perry though, I want them to be fronted by someone who can give them a chance of avoiding degeneration into nostalgic obscurity.

[Matthew]

Its not available because JRNY fans settle for second best thats why

I won't deny that many Journey fans have settled for second best - but it's absurd to claim that the FANS are to blame for Perry's absence...that Perry is just dying to make a comeback and the fans are denying him.

[Matthew]

The moral to my post is there are things you don't know nor will ever know, the kind of things that are not supposed to be public knowledge...nothing to do with greed or hatred, but everything to do with reasons why 'it is what it is'. This isn't worth arguing about, unless you're part of the 'inner circle', you really have no clue as to why things are what they are....as you said, Freddie is gone & that would be the easiest reason for Journey to continue as they are, but it just aint that simple. Nothing else I can say about it

TRANSLATION: Perry fried his pipes doing too much crack. This is no secret.

As a former crackhead myself this - if true - would only strengthen my affinity to the great man.

[ohsherrie]

Sorry Mathew, you hadn't posted before I started mine. I guess we said pretty much the same thing.

[froy]

Do you see what you just posted?
If they were a travesty in the 80s whay the hell are you even here ?
How can you be a fan ?
Makes no sense to me.

You misread my post . I said they had become a travesty OF the band they used to be.

Now this makes sense
A misread for sure.

[froy]

Sorry Mathew, you hadn't posted before I started mine. I guess we said pretty much the same thing.

Great response above oh Sherrie
No worries you can debate me its what we are here for.
BTW I like you too

[Matthew]

How can they be showing revival when the concert is the same show year after year
They are stale playing the same songs

I said EARLY signs of a revival. Admittedly...this is in comparison to the wretched last days of Augeri...but nonetheless they now have a charismatic frontman who actually sings live and the nostalgia shows they are doing have more energy and life than they've had in years by all accounts.

This doesn't - of course - represent a completed revival in any way. We'll have to wait until the new album and the headlining tours next year to see if the promise shown at the moment has any real substance to it.

[lights1961]

dead horse thingy is needed...

[The Ghost Rider]

dead horse thingy is needed...

[yogi]

One BIG Question.

A few short months ago almost all of you die hards who post here and saw Journey's 3 hour plus show which was led by Steve A. said that it was the 'GREATEST rock show on earth'. As good as ANYTHING that Journey had ever done with Steve P. They went to the past , played some of the hits,some of the real rockers went to the future with the 'GREAT' Generations CD, which was also said to be the GREATEST Journey album since Escape bla bla bblaaaaaaaa..........................................

Is it me or am I the only one who remembers reading post after post of this. I damn near drove to Houston to see 'the most awesome Journey show ever'.

Shit did Steve Perry ever exist??? This show is it man.... Just toooooooo tooooo awesome to miss.

Now I am reading the same exact thing about a Journey with a different front man that is playing only a 90 minute set while supporting closing act Def Leppard.

What gives???????????????????????????????